Ics on the play who needs it? - Xperia Play General

Personally I couldnt give a rats ass about this update lol all ure gonna get is a few minor graphical changes and performance tweaks. All I want is for the playstation suite stores to open finally in my area.
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psxpetey said:
Personally I couldnt give a rats ass about this update lol all ure gonna get is a few minor graphical changes and performance tweaks. All I want is for the playstation suite stores to open finally in my area.
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I like the part where you clearly have no idea what you're on about.

Call me crazy, but I can't get that worked up about an OS.
The Xperia Play remains the device I've always dreamed of carrying with me, ever since I first saw the PSP and wished it could fit in a pocket and make calls and texts. If you'd have told me that device would one day stop getting official OS updates, I would hardly have been shocked or put off it. If you'd have told me the manufacturer released its latest beta freely and remained supportive of unofficial development (I know part of the thanks to that is Android), I'd have been impressed.
I have friends with Galaxy Notes and S2s and they see my gamepad, and freaking ZELDA on N64oid, and their eyes light up. It's a really, really cool device. Not that I hate their phones or anything, but I wouldn't swap. Hell I wouldn't swap for a Galaxy S3 or HTC One X or whatever the latest is currently. Now they may be the dream devices for some people here, but for me it would be as exciting as swapping a PS3 for an ironing board. If I didn't think that buttons are an essential for making games fun, I'd buy an iPhone, seriously. Much as I prefer the open nature of Android, iOS has many more apps.
90% of Play owners out there do not have root or an unlocked bootloader. They are not as technical as posters on XDA, and would not have been expecting game buttons to go wrong. It would have been a support nightmare for Sony to have let those people upgrade if there were going to be issues. For the rest of us, we can flash the beta / whatever dev roms we want. What I mainly liked about the ICS beta was the hardware accelerated browsing. But if Gingerbread ends up being the way to go, then I'll just use Opera for that. Nothing else on a generic gamepad-less ICS phone would really hold a candle to playing console games with buttons whereever I want.
I'm much more pissed off at EA for not making our optimised exclusives, FIFA and Dead Space, available in the UK for people who were too late for that deal, even to buy.

Its a phone im getting sick of tinkering with it....i just wanna play my games, text my *****es and occasionly call my parents and tell them im alive...ics pfft.

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I like the part where you clearly have no idea what you're on about.
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I find the part where you say that OP has no idea what hes on about to be worthy of a good ol fashioned facepalm.
ICS is pretty much all OP says it is. Graphical and Performance tweaks. Swipe off notifications (pointless as I have a handy little cross on Gingerbread that removes notifications anyway), Swipe task killer (not as amazing as it sounds as I have a better way...close the app properly) and some browser related stuff like hardware accelerated browsing and swipe off tabs (again, just open up tabs and click the little cross in the corner)
Almost everything on ICS is there to save you a whole, get this, few seconds. More often than not you dont end up swiping a particular notification/app/tab off and end up opening it instead.

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Call me crazy, but I can't get that worked up about an OS.
I have friends with Galaxy Notes and S2s and they see my gamepad, and freaking ZELDA on N64oid, and their eyes light up.
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On ICS, with N64oid you can use the gamepad touchpads.
(but atm, N64oid with ICS is still laggy ...)

Its true that we dont need it. But like my self i bought the phone since i have in mind buying an ICS but didnt wanted to spend $600 or more in it.
I own an ICS tablet and its the first android that doesnt need tweeks or that i find no use of a custom rom to make it work the way i like.
Do i need ICS on my xperia play?
Yes, please.

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I love the part where you think you do. Do me a favor, how about you buy a different brand of phone so you can realize that Sony is actually just as good, if not better at supporting their devices than HTC, Motorola, Samsung, [insert name here].
Better yet, skip a step and just buy a ****ing iPhone. It will compliment your douchiness nicely.

I dont need it, and I'm getting a Hayabusa when it launches locally.
I have a Xoom with 4.0.4 ICS and I don't see why everyone is making such a big fuss.
However, I would have liked to see Sony push out one more GB update for the play with updated Qualcomm drivers, updated Sony apps and maybe improved Web browser.

Im just saying its really not worth the fuss lol who cares what I want is what I was promised ps suite isnt this supposed to be a sweet ass gaming phone with a tit load of games ? I LOOOVE my emulators and the small library of optimised games and psxperia emu sony sure did **** the bed with this phone it could have been so much more!!! Still it is a TON of fun
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Goodbye xperia play!

Its been quite a ride with the Xperia play, but unfortunately it hasn't been that good.
When i first got it i packed it to the brim with games. All gameloft ones like backstab, NOVA... stuff like that. Of course i was the first one to have one in my college, *****es love xperias
After a while i noticed that the buttons and the slider werent as strong as they used to be, i disregarded it but it became worse and worse. I take amazing care of all my phones, i can't really remember a time when i've dropped one! And hell, i wouldnt even put my phone on a flat surface because i worry about grit underneath it xD
Eventually we got root, this bought life back into the phone but as i am simlocked, no unlocked bootloader for me... Also we didn't get that many "good" games. Apart from gameloft ones and some EA ones... However i mostly played LSD and some other ps1 titles on fpse
At about this point me (and im sure a few of you) realised that this phone is going... nowhere. Its not quite the "Playstation phone" i thought it would be.
So now... its going. Im going to go back to my motorola defy and stay there for a while.
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Its been quite a ride with the Xperia play, but unfortunately it hasn't been that good.
When i first got it i packed it to the brim with games. All gameloft ones like backstab, NOVA... stuff like that. Of course i was the first one to have one in my college, *****es love xperias
After a while i noticed that the buttons and the slider werent as strong as they used to be, i disregarded it but it became worse and worse. I take amazing care of all my phones, i can't really remember a time when i've dropped one! And hell, i wouldnt even put my phone on a flat surface because i worry about grit underneath it xD
Eventually we got root, this bought life back into the phone but as i am simlocked, no unlocked bootloader for me... Also we didn't get that many "good" games. Apart from gameloft ones and some EA ones... However i mostly played LSD and some other ps1 titles on fpse
At about this point me (and im sure a few of you) realised that this phone is going... nowhere. Its not quite the "Playstation phone" i thought it would be.
So now... its going. Im going to go back to my motorola defy and stay there for a while.
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wow dude, have some patience. Good games don't comes right away. Plus, take a look at the n64oid. I've spent some good ass quality time playing Zelda OOT. I've much faith in this phone and i think we'll see some real good games this year. But sorry if you don't like it.. it's your loss
I was very excited about minecraft coming out for it but i don't know...
As for old skool games, I completed pokemon gold and yellow on it (and super mario 6 gold coins 2)
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I was very excited about minecraft coming out for it but i don't know...
As for old skool games, I completed pokemon gold and yellow on it (and super mario 6 gold coins 2)
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well, i'm not trying to make you keep the phone. If you wanna buy another one, do it
Yeah man, go ahead and change your phone, the Xperia PLAY is my first smartphone...
and I got it almost for free on a cheap 18 month plan.
So far it has not let me down on anything... and I currently more games than I can actually play, and with the emulators currently available is almost a non-limited game source.
However if I decide to change my phone, the only one available in Mexico better than the PLAY is the Galaxy S2... but no way, I will fit a humoungous phone like that on my pocket, also the price is a big step up, and I will surely miss my dedicated game pad... So there's no way out for me just yet (not that Im looking for one)
Currently I feel like the slider part is a bit more loose and the X button is more difficult to press on time (is like it is a little bit more "pressed" than the other ones), but no BIG issue just yet... I still have 10 months under warranty, so I can change it later for a new one and sell it $$$.
Im concerned too about where is this phone going, but I will gladly wait, because there is no better option for me right now.
We will miss a you as a PLAY user, because there more of us in here the more support we can get from DEVs and SE.
What does the defy offer that you don't get from play? You gotta be kidding.. Going with Motorola's lmao
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You gave up before the main application - "Playstation Suite" was even released yet.
Rogue Leader said:
You gave up before the main application - "Playstation Suite" was even released yet.
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+1 haha
replicant101 said:
Its been quite a ride with the Xperia play, but unfortunately it hasn't been that good.
When i first got it i packed it to the brim with games. All gameloft ones like backstab, NOVA... stuff like that. Of course i was the first one to have one in my college, *****es love xperias
After a while i noticed that the buttons and the slider werent as strong as they used to be, i disregarded it but it became worse and worse. I take amazing care of all my phones, i can't really remember a time when i've dropped one! And hell, i wouldnt even put my phone on a flat surface because i worry about grit underneath it xD
Eventually we got root, this bought life back into the phone but as i am simlocked, no unlocked bootloader for me... Also we didn't get that many "good" games. Apart from gameloft ones and some EA ones... However i mostly played LSD and some other ps1 titles on fpse
At about this point me (and im sure a few of you) realised that this phone is going... nowhere. Its not quite the "Playstation phone" i thought it would be.
So now... its going. Im going to go back to my motorola defy and stay there for a while.
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you can get out
Kriskawl, i just met you on rainbow 6,is your version glitchy? You can shoot me but I don't see you. I see an invisible guy shooting at me.
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I think someone expects too much. Honestly, I've found this phone to have lots of life in it, and it's not exactly going nowhere, what with all the development going on by people on this very website. Yeah locked bootloader sucks and yeah it would be nice to have a fix released today but to just give up after a couple months because you aren't getting exactly what you want...well, maybe you need to get out more, see how life really works.
Suck it up muffin, or leave in silence.
slider and button problems already? jeez what have you been doing to your phone? I bought mine shortly after it was released and it's still good as new.
and yes, games don't come overnight. patience is indeed a virtue. also, your phone choices are a mismatch.. Xperia Play against Defy? OMFG it's ridiculous
my missus has the defy and the only reason she has it is because she is a dozy bint who treats a phone like makeup, pop it in the bag and sling it on the floor when it's needed.
that's why it's the perfect phone for her but other than that it's ****e.
it's your choice what you do, not sure why you feel the need to let us all know though, not sure anybody cares?
It'd be nice of you to fulfill your bounty pledge
I am glad the people who have no patience are leaving and getting **** phones in comparison.
Like people who go from Android to iphone are so fail.
Less whinging here if all the the complainers change phones because they couldn't wait. Some phones don't ever get updates
I think some people are expecting to much. This is a phone after all not a dedicated gaming device.
The Xplay plays all the same games any other phone you get will do but other phones dont have gaming controls this is what it comes down to (for me anyways ). I cannot see how you would want to trade playing emulators + fpse with real controls for crappier gaming...
Even without root and an unlocked bootloader this phone still has alot going for it, no other phone can offer the gaming experience this phone offers and it does the job as a phone well in my opinion.
You may just be unluckly but i hammer my gaming pad and slider and i have even droped it once and its still seems fine.
You have warranty/insurance right? Well whats the problem if it breaks get it replaced...
yh this phones annoys the f out of me but its still under devolpment u wont find a better game phone becouse proper games aint been made yet
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speedyink said:
I think someone expects too much. Honestly, I've found this phone to have lots of life in it, and it's not exactly going nowhere, what with all the development going on by people on this very website. Yeah locked bootloader sucks and yeah it would be nice to have a fix released today but to just give up after a couple months because you aren't getting exactly what you want...well, maybe you need to get out more, see how life really works.
Suck it up muffin, or leave in silence.
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narflynn619 said:
slider and button problems already? jeez what have you been doing to your phone? I bought mine shortly after it was released and it's still good as new.
and yes, games don't come overnight. patience is indeed a virtue. also, your phone choices are a mismatch.. Xperia Play against Defy? OMFG it's ridiculous
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waz000000 said:
my missus has the defy and the only reason she has it is because she is a dozy bint who treats a phone like makeup, pop it in the bag and sling it on the floor when it's needed.
that's why it's the perfect phone for her but other than that it's ****e.
it's your choice what you do, not sure why you feel the need to let us all know though, not sure anybody cares?
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subcu1ture said:
I am glad the people who have no patience are leaving and getting **** phones in comparison.
Like people who go from Android to iphone are so fail.
Less whinging here if all the the complainers change phones because they couldn't wait. Some phones don't ever get updates
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Why is everyone trying to flame replicant for trying to open a discussion on the pro's and con's of the device, and the reason why he has decided to sell it??
This is the whole point of xda, people share there experiences and ideas, Have you ever though that a thread like this where people express there feelings about a device is usefull for people who are undecided about weather to buy the play or not.
How are people ment to make an informed decision when the first time someone says something bad about your precious device, all you fanboys jump on them like a group of thugs ... pathetic
your a **** shutup
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Classic
Anyways i hear you androhero, hate the flaming when people is all but praise and good saying about a device wether it's here or another forum
The problem with posting this kind of opinion in this forum is that, if it's wrong, you're not giving any valuable information, and if you're right, you're just telling people they're a bunch.of losers for.buying this phone.
This thread belongs in a general Android thread where it can actually be read by.people considering the Play. In here, you can assume that everyone has the phone and you risk this kind of response.

After a few months of usage .. i think its boring!

Hi Guys,
Well im using my play since september 2011...
At the first i was suprised about the good gaming qualitiy..
Then i wanted to flash roms on it and it was the pure hell i think..
At the beginning of 2011 i started to android with a Galaxy S i9000 and it has soo many roms at the moment like ICS, MIUI and CM7/9 and all are working perfect..
So for me the xperia play is become boring cause there arent many custom roms which are good working.
Okay we have MIUI = BT and TP not working
CM7 = TP are not working in Some games
CM9 = Data is Buggy
That's why I feel compelled to use the stock firmware SE
What are you thinkin about the Play and Custom Roms?
greetz from germany
evo
I haven't rooted my phone or unlocked bootloaders and stuff but I have to say the Xperia Play is a amazing device. I haven't been bored of it since I got it and it's been 5 months.
I'm loving it !
The only thing that started to annoy me after 6 months of having it is the slider. The gap is getting more and more annoying and the slider started to loosen it's stability.
Geeve said:
The only thing that started to annoy me after 6 months of having it is the slider. The gap is getting more and more annoying and the slider started to loosen it's stability.
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Yea I noticed that one the one on display at the ATT store. I'm gonna ride this device as long as I can.
I am upset about the support for the device but I'll probably just get another android in the next year and keep this one for my emulators.
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I find it more fun that there are fewer "perfect" roms for the PLAY, because then we get to help with testing and bughunting
evo_racer said:
Hi Guys,
Well im using my play since september 2011...
At the first i was suprised about the good gaming qualitiy..
Then i wanted to flash roms on it and it was the pure hell i think..
At the beginning of 2011 i started to android with a Galaxy S i9000 and it has soo many roms at the moment like ICS, MIUI and CM7/9 and all are working perfect..
So for me the xperia play is become boring cause there arent many custom roms which are good working.
Okay we have MIUI = BT and TP not working
CM7 = TP are not working in Some games
CM9 = Data is Buggy
That's why I feel compelled to use the stock firmware SE
What are you thinkin about the Play and Custom Roms?
greetz from germany
evo
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I can see that you are neither gamer nor worker. This device is mainly for 2 kind of people:
1- People who are obsessed with games .
2- People who want to waste thier time at work.
Not for who love editing(tampering with) systems.
i think this phone is good enough for me.i like to waste my time at work..
I actually switched from a Samsung Fascinate to this phone because I am both a gamer and a worker. I love this phone!
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I can see that you are neither gamer nor worker. This device is mainly for 2 kind of people:
1- People who are obsessed with games .
2- People who want to waste thier time at work.
Not for who love editing(tampering with) systems.
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Lol your on the wrong website if you don't enjoy editing and tampering with your phone.
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At op, even though I came from a hd2 (probably one of the most versatile mobile phones ever in terms of software) I'm still not bored of this phone. There is enough here to keep me busy and ICS (official) shouldn't be two far off which will mean more goodies from the chefs.
ya we dont have many roms to play with
Before my Xperia Play I owned an Xperia Arc, got my Play in September too, And I can say I have not got bored yet..., The Xperia Arc has a lot more roms and tweaks but I've never been a fan of custom roms anyway. Both good devices and I do not regret any of my Androids.
I never really used ROMs or tweaks on my Xperia Arc, and I never visited the Xperia Arc section more than once, Never got into modding Android until my Xperia Play.
I love my Xperia Play even though i'm not into modding and stuff like that.
Even though i'm a gamer I do use for other stuff as well like watching videos,whatsapp and surfing the net.
I think of it as a high end smartphone with physical buttons.
It's awesome !
Had my phone for over a year, love the thing.
Stayed on stock ROM the entire time , thought about rooting it , but eh.
Used ADW launcher and Go launcher , find Go Launcher is a bit better but more laggy.
However i find Sony is doing a great job supporting the phone , ICS update is in another month and a bit. Playstation Suite is in a few weeks. ( i bet at the same time as ICS).
Other then a few minor annoying issues.
I know for a fact we will see an Xperia Play 2 next year. However do to Sony taking over the Ericcson part. Bet its going to be called the Xperia Vita. Or something along that line
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I love my Xperia Play even though i'm not into modding and stuff like that.
Even though i'm a gamer I do use for other stuff as well like watching videos,whatsapp and surfing the net.
I think of it as a high end smartphone with physical buttons.
It's awesome !
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I'm with you dude, not rooted, just using as a phone where I can play emulators more comfortably.
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P's, I'm definitely not bored of my XPlay
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Had mine since May 2011 and I myself am starting to feel bored.
I'm rooted on 2.3.4 with stock SE ROM. Oh well,PSVITA next week and I'll be a happy gamer
Been satisfactory to me. I only bought it to do all those elaborate smartphone functions that my DS/PSP/VITA can't, while also breaking free from the constraint that quality TACTILE gaming required me to have a whole other device on my person.
Far from bored and at the rate we get high-rating game software I don't see that changing soon.
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I use to love my play but I hated texting on a on screen keyboard and we got 4g in our city so I got a samsung stratosphere 4g and a hw keyboard =) plus the only games I played on my xperia was pokemon which is very easy to play on this phone
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I liked it for like 3-4 months. I was so exited when i first got it. I thought like "Oh! I will be able to play PSP games and ****! this is gonna be awesome". Buuuuut after i finished Zelda OOT I got bored. I started to look for good games, and yes, I found some like GTA 3, but the controls isn't just working out for me.
So, yesterday, I ordered a HTC chacha. Why? Because I've always loved the design of the Blackberry, but I hate the OS. So what do you do? Well, you buy a Blackberry look-a-like with Android = HTC chacha! I will receive it in like 2-3 days. I think I'll be satisfied. Plus, it was only like $150 so.
The Xperia Play wasn't what I was expecting at first. Sure, it was cool to show of N64oid, GTA3 and some other games for friends.. but other then that, it's not for me.
But I would like to take this opportunity to thank all the dev's on this forum for all the help through out this 6 months I've had this phone, love you guys. And I'm sure I'll pop in sometimes when I've decided to turn my Xperia Play into a gaming device only. Take care guys!
Yup, same thing with me. I'm bored of playing the games already available on the phone. Want more new original stuff.
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[Discussion] ICS On Xperia Play

This Thread will be here for all the discussion regarding Sony, Xperia Play, & ICS myself & Techno-update will be monitering it. Keep it clean!
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This is sweet, good job!
Does anyone else think that perhaps this is a precursor to a "Xperia Play 2"? Think about it; the physical hardware probably wouldn't change much (same buttons, slider configuration, similar screen size). The main difference would be the hardware "underneath" (quad core, tegra, etc.) and the software. By dropping ICS off for the original Xperia Play, they can turn around and say the new model runs the superior ICS (and will surely get an update to jellybean)
Im not sure if my xda app is bugged out but on my screen the op's post is blank. Cant see what the topic of discussion is or ops thoughts.
LOL does the Kool-Aid taste good?
No, maybe/ hopefully you are right!! I would love an Xperia Play 2 BUT only after my contract is up....I think I have a year or so left.
this was my latest openion , please go on :
i'm sure that XDA's developers can make ICS better that sony , like what they did on our x10 mini-mini pro ...
sony-mobile allways say that they have expert engineers ...
so , xda's developers are more expert than sony's engineers ???!!!
plus , they only need dommlord , jjkkyu , bin4ry ... ?
i'm sure that sony is liar . just wait 4 or five mounths , maybe sony wants to make new play-xperia ! ( something like xperia play 2 ) ! and that is reason to leave our xperia play without hard working on update .
on 2010 , they stopped working on X10 series , just because of 2011 series !
just look at apple updates , they support their specs for 3 years ,!unfortunately , now i can understand , why apple owners , allways laugh at us !
Ics 4.0.4??? N Play didnt get it??? Bummer. Lets hope our talented dev can port that updte for our Play.
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Thumbs up to SONY for its strategy..
first, released ICS BETA version.. i think they already know the feedback : many would report bugs on gaming
second, with bugs gaming report.. this will create an opinion for some users : better not getting the update than couldn't enjoy the gaming experience
third, with that opinion created.. of course some users wouldn't blame them at all
Imagine if SONY do not release ICS BETA n suddenly made a statement no ICS update for Xperia Play in the very last minute, ........ ???
Why dont you start a petition before its to late? Ask for ICS or at least a value pack.
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I think that this shows that not only does Sony not care about their Xperia Play users, but they are LAZY as ever. Let's put out a broken ICS beta to scare everyone away from it, so when we announce that the Xperia Play isn't getting ICS we won't have to take the crap from users. Heck, we weren't going to come out with ICS for the play and we just half-assed a beta to shut the users up. I want Sony to go back on their word and say We messed up and we are going to make ICS for the play, but it isn't going to happen any time soon. I'm just glad I am running aokPlay and it runs smoother then butter coated in animal birthing agent (was featured on Mythbusters when they needed an EXTREMELY slippery surface), sliding on freshly zambonied ice. Yah, It works that well for me. I have NEVER gotten a crash that wasn't my fault because I OC'd too high, or I did something stupid like open too many tabs in my browser by FAR. I hope that Sony sees the light and realizes that all they would have to do would be to release a NON beta ICS version to the devs here and we would all be happy. Then they could at least say "you can't upgrade from us, but you can still do it if you want..."
I think this is just a delay, not cancel.
But anyway, i will start my ics project soon, no longer waiting.
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beez1717 said:
I think that this shows that not only does Sony not care about their Xperia Play users, but they are LAZY as ever. Let's put out a broken ICS beta to scare everyone away from it, so when we announce that the Xperia Play isn't getting ICS we won't have to take the crap from users. Heck, we weren't going to come out with ICS for the play and we just half-assed a beta to shut the users up. I want Sony to go back on their word and say We messed up and we are going to make ICS for the play, but it isn't going to happen any time soon. I'm just glad I am running aokPlay and it runs smoother then butter coated in animal birthing agent (was featured on Mythbusters when they needed an EXTREMELY slippery surface), sliding on freshly zambonied ice. Yah, It works that well for me. I have NEVER gotten a crash that wasn't my fault because I OC'd too high, or I did something stupid like open too many tabs in my browser by FAR. I hope that Sony sees the light and realizes that all they would have to do would be to release a NON beta ICS version to the devs here and we would all be happy. Then they could at least say "you can't upgrade from us, but you can still do it if you want..."
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i'm agree with you
we should finally teach sony that PROMISE IS PROMISE .
a broken apple is better than sony-mobile's xperia
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I suggest that all the developers working on custom ROMs stop working on their ROMs and get together and work on ONE ROM that would aim to be the best ICS experience possible. Maybe if we all work together we can convince Sony that ICS is still worth it. Just because some games aren't written for ICS it doesn't mean they won't be in the future. So yes, let's pool our resources and make a BETTER ICS rom then whatever Sony might have given us!
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I suggest that all the developers working on custom ROMs stop working on their ROMs and get together and work on ONE ROM that would aim to be the best ICS experience possible. Maybe if we all work together we can convince Sony that ICS is still worth it. Just because some games aren't written for ICS it doesn't mean they won't be in the future. So yes, let's pool our resources and make a BETTER ICS rom then whatever Sony might have given us!
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Now thats an IDEA!!!
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Im not quite bothered that ics is cancelled,i might be sad if they also cancel the upcomming PSSuite and other ported PSP games,hopefully once its released our devs will be able to reverse engineer it like Psxperia
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Im not quite bothered that ics is cancelled,i might be sad if they also cancel the upcomming PSSuite and other ported PSP games,hopefully once its released our devs will be able to reverse engineer it like Psxperia
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yeah , sony also promised new PSsuite and psp games !!!
i want to be patient , but i can't
Let's start from the beginning. The Play, from a pure hardware view, can run ICS. Sony, HTC and other companies are releasing hardware with ICS and lower specs than the Play (Tapioca, Desire C). We've seen that the beta runs mighty fine in the performance department, and it's obvious that the job can be finished if Sony cares to do so.
However, this is a matter of the gaming ecosystem. In short: the only companies Sony cares about are the big names like EA, Gameloft, Rockstar, etc. as they make the big majority of the Play game sales.
However, with regard to development, the Play is not important to those big names: they see it as "the redheaded stepchild Android", because they have to make extra effort to make it work with the game pads, instead of easily deploying the code in it like they do in the whole different platforms they code for (not only mobile phones, but smart TV's, console-related app stores, Steam and so on). Sony bribed those big developers with a lot of cash (remember all those free EA games and temporary exclusives?) so that the Play remained visible.
Fast forward to now. Gingerbread is present in a good 60% of Android Play Store-running hardware. ICS has only like.a 4%. Android is the best selling platform, with, let's say 500 million active devices. If my numbers are not wrong, that gives 300M GB devices 20M ICS ones. Developing with ICS in mind implies higher development costs, because you have to study the new features and use them. And of course, big name developers target wide audiences: by default they'll program with Gingerbread in mind, so they couldn't care less about ICS right now.
Someone mentioned Windows 7 incompatibility with old games: there is actually a Compatibility mode which was mainly designed for the purpose of using older games. Now Steam has taken care of that, which suits MS fine.
With the ICS upgrade, Sony probably contacted their "partners" and asked them to update their software (basically switch from the Sony custom gamepad framework to Google's standard one which Sony probably contributed themselves) for it to work properly in ICS, like they do in Sony gaming platforms. But unlike the PlayStations, it's those big name developers who are in control now, particularly in Android. Therefore, they showed Sony the middle finger.
Indie developers, on the other hand, are much more careful with their code, since they don't have the ability to port a game to twenty platforms and offset the possible losses of one platform with the other one. That means they produce code which is much better tailored to the platform they work on, and you can see it because most indie games work properly in both GB and ICS (note that I'm not talking about the quality of the game itself, but of its code).
TL;DR this is a power struggle between Sony and the big name game developers. The latter have won here, at the expense of the users. Support independent developers but make sure they don't make the "big name" status, because they'll get the need to control everything and screw users like this.
P.S if someone is so unhappy about not having ICS that they don't want that piece of crap lying around in their home, I offer to pay $50 plus shipping for it
Sony makes a Fony promise....
RIP Sony
I was looking for an ICS phone with gaming capability and decent specs, the Xperia play looked good and so I bought it as Sony had "promised" an ICS update. I am vvery dissatisfied and disappointed with them and hope they are hit with a lawsuit. If not id at least like some compensation.
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Xperia Mint - HD Display, 1.5Ghz S4... looks nice

Just sharing. As of late I feel that Sony's phones seem way behind the competition. But by the looks of things this phone looks nice and seems to have some power behind it....
http://www.engadget.com/2012/07/26/sony-xperia-mint-lt30p/
And...to me.. I really like the clean look. Would I give up my Xperia PLAY for that...hell no.
Meh. If Sony can release a flagship phone for the US, it might be worth a damn.
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I get the bad feeling that this will be one of those silly US only phones >_<
Sony dropped the ball long ago. The play is my last Sony phone. There's just so much better options now a days.
Support for the play didn't even last 1 year, my money is to important to throw it at a company who isn't in for the long run.
Buying into Sony these days is like buying into rim. A costly error when you can do so much better.
I hate to say it but this is a throw away market, problem is some companies treat there customers the same way.
why sony didn't give us ics:
it is not for touchpad support as they already got that fixed.
it is about the gaming performance.
i have contact with a sony dev and he said: game developers wouldn't update the games with touchpad support for ics, because they don't earn enough money from xperia play users. as i completely undertstand that because this is a game phone.
now people says: why doesn't give sony us something else as compromise? they do! they are helping the freexperia group with fixing things and they see what they can do else (with fxp) for ous
If we ever get Jellybean for our "Play" and gaming comes back... then can we question Sony for their lack of support?? I agree that it is not just about the gamepads and that ICS isnt as smooth as GB was for gaming, but now what do Xperia Play owners do? We must stay with GB basically outdating our phones(by far). I know its not all Sonys fault but we lose more then them seeing how we paid for our phone. Jellybean=working games & touchpads....what do you think?
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Looks cool, if Verizon gets it they'll just ship it with their own old locked version of Android.
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i cant really unterstand what people have against the play. mine runs very smooth with custom rom. Gaming is good(i mostly care for emulators) and the overall expirience is good. My girlfriend got a S2(as i did 1 year ago) and i dont want to trade. I just love the gamepad.
The camera is not that good and the ram could be more but thats the only complain i do have now...
Motawa88 said:
i cant really unterstand what people have against the play. mine runs very smooth with custom rom. Gaming is good(i mostly care for emulators) and the overall expirience is good. My girlfriend got a S2(as i did 1 year ago) and i dont want to trade. I just love the gamepad.
The camera is not that good and the ram could be more but thats the only complain i do have now...
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I don't think people dislike the play. But are grumpy because it kinda flopped in the market. And there's multiple things that caused it too.
But that's what xda is for, to make the best of it. And yes I like it for the game pad, the phone itself may only be middle of performance vs other Android phones but whatever.
Wow, definitely considering this device now, If its announced at IFA the Xperia s will ultimately be dumped as the flag ship.
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Just sharing. As of late I feel that Sony's phones seem way behind the competition. But by the looks of things this phone looks nice and seems to have some power behind it....
http://www.engadget.com/2012/07/26/sony-xperia-mint-lt30p/
And...to me.. I really like the clean look. Would I give up my Xperia PLAY for that...hell no.
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It is kinda nice looking, I like the smooth simple design. But your right, giving up my play for anything else is pretty much not gonna happen.
I will re house my phone once a year before I get another device!
Motawa88 said:
i cant really unterstand what people have against the play. mine runs very smooth with custom rom. Gaming is good(i mostly care for emulators) and the overall expirience is good. My girlfriend got a S2(as i did 1 year ago) and i dont want to trade. I just love the gamepad.
The camera is not that good and the ram could be more but thats the only complain i do have now...
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I would say the camera is pretty decent actually

We are stuck in this limbo called XPERIA PLAY

I refuse to live in a world where the only way to enjoy gaming with an Android device in public is by owning and old ass Xperia Play.
There are 0 alternatives to the Xperia Play.
All these pads that you have to carry in your pocket and attach/deattach look goofy as f*ck and are annoying.
The new Snail W3D is HUGE and I don't want something that looks like a handheld console anyway. When im on a meeting with middle aged men at an office I can't pop out MUH GAMING CONSOLE.
Carrying an actual handheld console in 2015 along with your normal smartphone... LOL.
This is why, for me, the Xperia Play was perfect. You want to play: you slide the gamepad out and enjoy some great ms-dos/old school emulation gaming. When you are done, slide in and it looks like a regular phone. THATS the only option. I need that. I CANT enjoy modern games, I don't care about them, and I can't enjoy old games with touchscreen controls. How in the f*ck im supossed to strafe and shoot at the same time in Doom? Jesus christ, they ruined everything. If only stupid Sony wouldn't held the stupid patent, we could have had something similar to the Bladepad or the Razer Junglecat for the main Android phones, but meanwhile, unless you want to buy an iCrap, you are stuck with the Xperia Play which is a slow POS nowadays.
Im only asuming that's the reason, because I refuse to believe no one has thought about releasing a sliding gamepad EVER for any Android phone.
This is my rant after years of waiting for something.
Brother. I know your pain. You have said what I've been thinking for a REALLY long time. Respect.
Dukedoom - i think just like You. But there are no choise in the world. Really. Only Xperia Play up to today have a gamepad. A real gamepad and it's a real phone. I think that we never get another phone with gamepad simmilar to ours Xperia Play. It's really sad.
I bought a gamepad for my s4. It's easy to connect and to mount. But it's still another device with another battery and another thing to carry. Like Ngage long time ago - xperia play had small group of fans. But thoese fans are loyal as hell.
You guys definitely aren't alone on this one. I'm getting tired of the Play's lack of power. If I run the stock rom all the emulators run smoothly but I get shafted in the apps department. If I upgrade to 4.x then I can run modern apps but the emulators are sluggish. I'm also on a R800X so my rom options are limited as well. There is still a demand for a device like the Play but everybody is too stupid to make it. I can't find anything like it even if I look at Chinese imports and they practically invented handheld game consoles that use emulators!
I feel the pain however the play sold **** all so no one even wants to make no. 2 much w3d it's your best option at the moment. If we could get more interest in the devices to accumulate than maybe Sony would make another but for that to happen the vita must die lol. Sure would be cool if you could just slap a new cpu in and recode some software but that's not how it works. The play could run newer os but you need a really good developer to optimise. Much w3d is gigantic which sucks I'll be buying one right now they are on pre order though and I never pre order anything.
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I agree with the sentiment here. I have been waiting for a proper sucessor (slidedepad) for a long time.
Unfortunately the Xperia Play was sold in a moment where mobile gaming was still in its infancy, and phones weren't the little powerhouses of today. If it was released today, we would have a very potent quadcore with at least 2gb ram, HDMI out (or at least a dock for that) and possibly remastered PSP games made for it, which would certainly drive more sales. That, and having actual analogs instead of touchpads (like the PSP Go) would really help make it sell like hotcakes, possibly paving the way for an Xplay 2 and more.
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I feel the pain however the play sold **** all so no one even wants to make no. 2 much w3d it's your best option at the moment. If we could get more interest in the devices to accumulate than maybe Sony would make another but for that to happen the vita must die lol. Sure would be cool if you could just slap a new cpu in and recode some software but that's not how it works. The play could run newer os but you need a really good developer to optimise. Much w3d is gigantic which sucks I'll be buying one right now they are on pre order though and I never pre order anything.
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That was the other problem with the play everyone thought Sony was going to release tons of games but we only got 13 ps1 classics then Sony never released any more. Definitely did not help sales
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Well i upgraded my phone and just use a keychain controller. It's not as good as the xperia play, but that's a nice alternative.
I own an Impulse controller :
http://www.impulsecontroller.com/
And i ordered a cheaper clone for my gf, friends and brother (back then got it for 4€ each) :
http://www.dx.com/fr/p/multi-functi...hutter-w-wireless-mouse-function-black-370723
Quick review : Well, that's a nice piece of hardware, but you lack L/R/Start/Select (well just use the virtual controller on screen for those and that's ok). The cross is not really precise, don't expect to play fighting game with that (Hadoken are tricky), but that's ok for most of games.
Edit : It seems there is a new challenger :
http://fr.aliexpress.com/item/2015-...S-Smart-Phone-Smartphone-Hot/32286620242.html
Did someone try this one ? Seems to me like a cheap alternative.
Baltyre said:
Well i upgraded my phone and just use a keychain controller. It's not as good as the xperia play, but that's a nice alternative.
I own an Impulse controller :
http://www.impulsecontroller.com/
And i ordered a cheaper clone for my gf, friends and brother (back then got it for 4€ each) :
http://www.dx.com/fr/p/multi-functi...hutter-w-wireless-mouse-function-black-370723
Quick review : Well, that's a nice piece of hardware, but you lack L/R/Start/Select (well just use the virtual controller on screen for those and that's ok). The cross is not really precise, don't expect to play fighting game with that (Hadoken are tricky), but that's ok for most of games.
Edit : It seems there is a new challenger :
http://fr.aliexpress.com/item/2015-...S-Smart-Phone-Smartphone-Hot/32286620242.html
Did someone try this one ? Seems to me like a cheap alternative.
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how are you supossed to play in public with that
This was the closest we ever got to getting a replacement:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3uKuZq7yBM&t=2m00s
Unfortunately the kickstarter got cancelled, the project never shipped.
Someone get to work and make one of these. I don't care about the keyboard, I just want the cross, joystick and buttons, make it simple with that swivel rotating mechanism to hide it and add in L/R top buttons.
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This was the closest we ever got to getting a replacement:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3uKuZq7yBM&t=2m00s
Unfortunately the kickstarter got cancelled, the project never shipped.
Someone get to work and make one of these. I don't care about the keyboard, I just want the cross, joystick and buttons, make it simple with that swivel rotating mechanism to hide it and add in L/R top buttons.
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That looks like the Open Pandora handhelds controller scheme:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pandora_(console)
FYI, I am deeply considering buying another Xperia PLAY. I moved onto a Nexus 5 almost a 18 months ago and I am definately eyeballing the Snail W3D, but I do miss the PLAY for what it could bring in emulator wise. If I do snag one it will be white this time, always had the black models.
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That looks like the Open Pandora handhelds controller scheme:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pandora_(console)
FYI, I am deeply considering buying another Xperia PLAY. I moved onto a Nexus 5 almost a 18 months ago and I am definately eyeballing the Snail W3D, but I do miss the PLAY for what it could bring in emulator wise. If I do snag one it will be white this time, always had the black models.
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Last summer.... I picked up a R800x off of ebay for $25 with Free Shipping. I was really surprised how good of shape it was in.... I would say an 8 out of 10. I only use it for gaming because I have a note 3 as my daily driver. But I'm loving it for emulators... definitely worth the small amount I paid for it. Maybe you could pick one up cheap too on eBay if you keep your eyes peeled .
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Last summer.... I picked up a R800x off of ebay for $25 with Free Shipping. I was really surprised how good of shape it was in.... I would say an 8 out of 10. I only use it for gaming because I have a note 3 as my daily driver. But I'm loving it for emulators... definitely worth the small amount I paid for it. Maybe you could pick one up cheap too on eBay if you keep your eyes peeled .
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This is the one I am eyeballing:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/221753627798?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
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This is the one I am eyeballing:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/221753627798?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
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The white look is nice and there's definitely a lot more development for the R800i variant than the R800x. It looks like a nice phone. I only got a R800x because a friend of mine had one and I was teaming up with him to help him root it and unlock the bootloader (This is the only Sony phone I've ever bought and I was totally unfamiliar with Flashtool, ftf's, etc... ).
It would be good to have you back on here with an Xperia Play in hand .... when I was learning to root and Rom this phone, I found a lot of your older posts to be really helpful. :thumbup:
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The white look is nice and there's definitely a lot more development for the R800i variant than the R800x. It looks like a nice phone. I only got a R800x because a friend of mine had one and I was teaming up with him to help him root it and unlock the bootloader (This is the only Sony phone I've ever bought and I was totally unfamiliar with Flashtool, ftf's, etc... ).
It would be good to have you back on here with an Xperia Play in hand .... when I was learning to root and Rom this phone, I found a lot of your older posts to be really helpful. :thumbup:
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I am glad to hear that my posts have been helpful here. I am going to get a PLAY within a month or so, but I will snag one. The Nexus would stil be my main daily driver and I would be buying the PLAY as a gaming device only. But it would be nice to be back here on this thread with a PLAY in hand. Despite moving on to the N5 forum I still check this forum almost daily despite not having the phone anymore, simply because this forum felt like a small group of friends and I spent so much time on this forum thast I simply could not go without still seeing what was going on. Looking forward to getting another PLAY. I am glad that my past posts were helpful, look forward to being back on here soon. I will keep ya'll posted.
I wouldnt be able to get a Xperia Play at this point. I have a LG P970 which pretty much has the same hardware as the Xperia Play and I cant wait to upgrade it to a Samsung S5 Mini, the phone is bloated as **** and browsing of the internet is not smooth.
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I wouldnt be able to get a Xperia Play at this point. I have a LG P970 which pretty much has the same hardware as the Xperia Play and I cant wait to upgrade it to a Samsung S5 Mini, the phone is bloated as **** and browsing of the internet is not smooth.
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A few mods and the xperia play is super smooth
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Agree with all the sentiments here. Despite the varied Android ecosystem, nobody including Sony wants to bite. The Xperia Play was ergonomically perfect, but no doubt it would have been the usual paranoia and cross product in fighting that killed it before it had a chance based on some really stupid decisions regarding the specs. Such a shame and depressing state of affairs how close we got to the perfect gamer phone.
i still use the play for emulators and legendary games like bruce lee, fifa 12, and star battalion.
you know what's close for me? i've been using the xperia ZL for a year now and 5.0 HD screen w/quad core on a 4.4 kitkat and 4glte with the OEM option to sync my ps3 controller.
i have all my xperia play games on this device and having to play it on a sony phone w/my ps3 controller without any lag is just as cool for me. i'm a sony fanboi and having the xperia lounge, playstation mobile, walkman player still reminds me of my play without the convenience of the controller slide out.
with the sync, i just turn on the ps3 controller and connects with my newer xperia. it's not completely the same but it feels close.
Guys , what do you think if we find someone how can make a modern Xperia play alternative at kickstarter.com ??
or we can email Sony or do something , so they can made an Xperia play 2 ...

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