Its been quite a ride with the Xperia play, but unfortunately it hasn't been that good.
When i first got it i packed it to the brim with games. All gameloft ones like backstab, NOVA... stuff like that. Of course i was the first one to have one in my college, *****es love xperias
After a while i noticed that the buttons and the slider werent as strong as they used to be, i disregarded it but it became worse and worse. I take amazing care of all my phones, i can't really remember a time when i've dropped one! And hell, i wouldnt even put my phone on a flat surface because i worry about grit underneath it xD
Eventually we got root, this bought life back into the phone but as i am simlocked, no unlocked bootloader for me... Also we didn't get that many "good" games. Apart from gameloft ones and some EA ones... However i mostly played LSD and some other ps1 titles on fpse
At about this point me (and im sure a few of you) realised that this phone is going... nowhere. Its not quite the "Playstation phone" i thought it would be.
So now... its going. Im going to go back to my motorola defy and stay there for a while.
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Its been quite a ride with the Xperia play, but unfortunately it hasn't been that good.
When i first got it i packed it to the brim with games. All gameloft ones like backstab, NOVA... stuff like that. Of course i was the first one to have one in my college, *****es love xperias
After a while i noticed that the buttons and the slider werent as strong as they used to be, i disregarded it but it became worse and worse. I take amazing care of all my phones, i can't really remember a time when i've dropped one! And hell, i wouldnt even put my phone on a flat surface because i worry about grit underneath it xD
Eventually we got root, this bought life back into the phone but as i am simlocked, no unlocked bootloader for me... Also we didn't get that many "good" games. Apart from gameloft ones and some EA ones... However i mostly played LSD and some other ps1 titles on fpse
At about this point me (and im sure a few of you) realised that this phone is going... nowhere. Its not quite the "Playstation phone" i thought it would be.
So now... its going. Im going to go back to my motorola defy and stay there for a while.
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wow dude, have some patience. Good games don't comes right away. Plus, take a look at the n64oid. I've spent some good ass quality time playing Zelda OOT. I've much faith in this phone and i think we'll see some real good games this year. But sorry if you don't like it.. it's your loss
I was very excited about minecraft coming out for it but i don't know...
As for old skool games, I completed pokemon gold and yellow on it (and super mario 6 gold coins 2)
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I was very excited about minecraft coming out for it but i don't know...
As for old skool games, I completed pokemon gold and yellow on it (and super mario 6 gold coins 2)
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well, i'm not trying to make you keep the phone. If you wanna buy another one, do it
Yeah man, go ahead and change your phone, the Xperia PLAY is my first smartphone...
and I got it almost for free on a cheap 18 month plan.
So far it has not let me down on anything... and I currently more games than I can actually play, and with the emulators currently available is almost a non-limited game source.
However if I decide to change my phone, the only one available in Mexico better than the PLAY is the Galaxy S2... but no way, I will fit a humoungous phone like that on my pocket, also the price is a big step up, and I will surely miss my dedicated game pad... So there's no way out for me just yet (not that Im looking for one)
Currently I feel like the slider part is a bit more loose and the X button is more difficult to press on time (is like it is a little bit more "pressed" than the other ones), but no BIG issue just yet... I still have 10 months under warranty, so I can change it later for a new one and sell it $$$.
Im concerned too about where is this phone going, but I will gladly wait, because there is no better option for me right now.
We will miss a you as a PLAY user, because there more of us in here the more support we can get from DEVs and SE.
What does the defy offer that you don't get from play? You gotta be kidding.. Going with Motorola's lmao
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You gave up before the main application - "Playstation Suite" was even released yet.
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You gave up before the main application - "Playstation Suite" was even released yet.
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replicant101 said:
Its been quite a ride with the Xperia play, but unfortunately it hasn't been that good.
When i first got it i packed it to the brim with games. All gameloft ones like backstab, NOVA... stuff like that. Of course i was the first one to have one in my college, *****es love xperias
After a while i noticed that the buttons and the slider werent as strong as they used to be, i disregarded it but it became worse and worse. I take amazing care of all my phones, i can't really remember a time when i've dropped one! And hell, i wouldnt even put my phone on a flat surface because i worry about grit underneath it xD
Eventually we got root, this bought life back into the phone but as i am simlocked, no unlocked bootloader for me... Also we didn't get that many "good" games. Apart from gameloft ones and some EA ones... However i mostly played LSD and some other ps1 titles on fpse
At about this point me (and im sure a few of you) realised that this phone is going... nowhere. Its not quite the "Playstation phone" i thought it would be.
So now... its going. Im going to go back to my motorola defy and stay there for a while.
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you can get out
Kriskawl, i just met you on rainbow 6,is your version glitchy? You can shoot me but I don't see you. I see an invisible guy shooting at me.
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I think someone expects too much. Honestly, I've found this phone to have lots of life in it, and it's not exactly going nowhere, what with all the development going on by people on this very website. Yeah locked bootloader sucks and yeah it would be nice to have a fix released today but to just give up after a couple months because you aren't getting exactly what you want...well, maybe you need to get out more, see how life really works.
Suck it up muffin, or leave in silence.
slider and button problems already? jeez what have you been doing to your phone? I bought mine shortly after it was released and it's still good as new.
and yes, games don't come overnight. patience is indeed a virtue. also, your phone choices are a mismatch.. Xperia Play against Defy? OMFG it's ridiculous
my missus has the defy and the only reason she has it is because she is a dozy bint who treats a phone like makeup, pop it in the bag and sling it on the floor when it's needed.
that's why it's the perfect phone for her but other than that it's ****e.
it's your choice what you do, not sure why you feel the need to let us all know though, not sure anybody cares?
It'd be nice of you to fulfill your bounty pledge
I am glad the people who have no patience are leaving and getting **** phones in comparison.
Like people who go from Android to iphone are so fail.
Less whinging here if all the the complainers change phones because they couldn't wait. Some phones don't ever get updates
I think some people are expecting to much. This is a phone after all not a dedicated gaming device.
The Xplay plays all the same games any other phone you get will do but other phones dont have gaming controls this is what it comes down to (for me anyways ). I cannot see how you would want to trade playing emulators + fpse with real controls for crappier gaming...
Even without root and an unlocked bootloader this phone still has alot going for it, no other phone can offer the gaming experience this phone offers and it does the job as a phone well in my opinion.
You may just be unluckly but i hammer my gaming pad and slider and i have even droped it once and its still seems fine.
You have warranty/insurance right? Well whats the problem if it breaks get it replaced...
yh this phones annoys the f out of me but its still under devolpment u wont find a better game phone becouse proper games aint been made yet
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I think someone expects too much. Honestly, I've found this phone to have lots of life in it, and it's not exactly going nowhere, what with all the development going on by people on this very website. Yeah locked bootloader sucks and yeah it would be nice to have a fix released today but to just give up after a couple months because you aren't getting exactly what you want...well, maybe you need to get out more, see how life really works.
Suck it up muffin, or leave in silence.
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slider and button problems already? jeez what have you been doing to your phone? I bought mine shortly after it was released and it's still good as new.
and yes, games don't come overnight. patience is indeed a virtue. also, your phone choices are a mismatch.. Xperia Play against Defy? OMFG it's ridiculous
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my missus has the defy and the only reason she has it is because she is a dozy bint who treats a phone like makeup, pop it in the bag and sling it on the floor when it's needed.
that's why it's the perfect phone for her but other than that it's ****e.
it's your choice what you do, not sure why you feel the need to let us all know though, not sure anybody cares?
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I am glad the people who have no patience are leaving and getting **** phones in comparison.
Like people who go from Android to iphone are so fail.
Less whinging here if all the the complainers change phones because they couldn't wait. Some phones don't ever get updates
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Why is everyone trying to flame replicant for trying to open a discussion on the pro's and con's of the device, and the reason why he has decided to sell it??
This is the whole point of xda, people share there experiences and ideas, Have you ever though that a thread like this where people express there feelings about a device is usefull for people who are undecided about weather to buy the play or not.
How are people ment to make an informed decision when the first time someone says something bad about your precious device, all you fanboys jump on them like a group of thugs ... pathetic
your a **** shutup
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Classic
Anyways i hear you androhero, hate the flaming when people is all but praise and good saying about a device wether it's here or another forum
The problem with posting this kind of opinion in this forum is that, if it's wrong, you're not giving any valuable information, and if you're right, you're just telling people they're a bunch.of losers for.buying this phone.
This thread belongs in a general Android thread where it can actually be read by.people considering the Play. In here, you can assume that everyone has the phone and you risk this kind of response.
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Ok so I tried to play sonic and I couldn't jump n run, I've been tolerant to no mt, but now that a couple apps I've been paying for needs multi touch I'm starting to really hate my phone, its an iphone killer, but I can't take this much longer, dear sony, get off your rich ass and fix this, or give me the beta of 2.1 n I'll shutup, I'm sorry, I never rant but jeez sony get your act together... How do you feel, hopefully if sony sees this with all the complaints in one forum they might actually get off their lazy ass, if anyone is offended off my post I'm sorry...
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Nope! Love it as it is. Sorry! Being impatient will make your blood pressure boil and add to your stress level. Just relax, it will come very soon or sell your phone and get the latest one...
Couldn't care less for mt. Love the phone just as it is now...no promises 2.1 will bring mt either and again I couldn't care less...but why did you get this phone knowing it didn't have mt?
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IMO its better than the iPhone and most other phones but it couldve been WAY better if it had MT and up to date android.
I am really sorry, but I always laugh when I read people are really really, angry because they can't play some game well on their phone. Buy yourself a psp or ps3, or one of the other great game consuls, the graphics and sound is a hundred times better. If you are really into games than you have to admit playing a game on your phone is fun to kill some time, but not for playing seriously...
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I play a few games on mine, particularly zenonia, but nothing seriously. Try the psx emulator, i was really suprised how well it runs. I'm happy with it as it is, but i am looking forward to 2.1 and a bootloader hack working.
If MT is such a huge issue for playing your games just set the Camera button as your Jump button there you go problem solved
in recing games set the (camera key) to accellerate and the (volume up key) for Brake
there you go no more multi-touch issues now stop complaining people =P
Actually I'm very happy with my x10... specially since I've got it to the latest firmware, I had a milestone before (which has Multi-touch) and I take the xperia any day, better battery life, sleeker design, faster processor, better internal memory, and when it gets 2.1 it will be even better!!
I don't think that we'll get mt with 2.1 and I really don't mind, if you really need games get a psp as was said above or a phone that you know has mt...
I got pissed when I unboxed this phone. First you see the phone and below it there were some low-quality straight out of hell earphones. I mean, with a phone like this at least give in-ear phones...
A cord might've been usefull too, the phone is so big that when I try to operate it with one hand, I get afraid because it feels like it will drop.
Well... i like my X10, but Se F***D UP this one.If they launch the X10 with the latest software and MT then this phone would be one of the best ones arround.
But i like it this way too.
It doesn't bother me because I knew it didn't have mt when I bought it.
For snes games I set volume up, and down as left and right, this allows me to use all on screen controls, find it works well for racing to.
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I just can't understand why people buy a PHONE! That since BEFORE release has been told by SE has NO MT. And then start crying and wining and *****ing about it not having MT, you sad sorry bunch.. you bought the wrong phone ppl! *sigh*
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I got pissed when I unboxed this phone. First you see the phone and below it there were some low-quality straight out of hell earphones. I mean, with a phone like this at least give in-ear phones...
A cord might've been usefull too, the phone is so big that when I try to operate it with one hand, I get afraid because it feels like it will drop.
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I got regular phones, in-ear phones, extension cord and the bt headset mw600. But i probably paid more for mine. About 580 euro.
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You got what you bought. Stop whinning!!!!!!!
Tjotte said:
I just can't understand why people buy a PHONE! That since BEFORE release has been told by SE has NO MT. And then start crying and wining and *****ing about it not having MT, you sad sorry bunch.. you bought the wrong phone ppl! *sigh*
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I think people bought the phone knowing it didn't have MT due to 1.6 but not that it will never have MT, because SE decided to be cheap and not include hardware support for MT. They still push the fact that it has MT on their US website, sad when the maker of the phone isn't clear if it has MT or not.
Regardless of how you feel about MT it is a mistake for SE not to have the feature. When 2.1 finally comes out if it doesn't give the X10 MT functionality that's the thing that will be reported the most, no matter what else they got right with the release. Because of SE's already weak position in the market they can't afford stupid moves like this.
The MT isn't important argument reminds me of the MMS is not important argument IPhone fanboys used before the IPhone had MMS . I hardly use MMS but still like that I have the option to send one.
Im realy disapointed with the phone two
First of all I thought it was smaller and that it had a larger screen
And it has way to short battery life I was expecting 2 month batt time And look what We got
I dosent even have the 100Watt amp with speakers that I expected, no HD tv receiver no cofee maker no wheels no ..........
in answer to the OP's question...... No, I'm not.
Actually, re: headphones. My x10 came with a pair of really good ones. A friend got his @ duty free (Singapore airport iirc) and his ones are just vile. Even the plastic feels crappier.
So do different markets get different accessories?
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Yep - UK got cheapo headset.. Canada (I think) got the MW600... But the prices and contracts are all different too... I got a free handset on £30 a month for 2 years... unlimited data, tonnes of texts and minutes (more that I'll ever use!)..
I am becoming too frustrated using this phone. No official froyo update till now. Those hacked froyo updates always crash and have bugs. Finally decided to gonna sell this crap. Its good for nothing. Samsucks!!
Few days earlier just saw Galaxy Ace on the web, I thought it to be good choice. But that sucks too even it has adreno 200 gpu it isnt able to play fifa and shift smoothly but can say near to it. Developers also dont pay any attention to thse phones. These mid range Samsung phones give worse performance than my ipod touch.
Finally decided to spend some more money and buy a proper phone like xperia play or xperia x10 mini pro 2. Xperia play costs around 400$ according to rumors on the web. Its worth it and i amsure that it would keep me satisfied for six months. These samsung phones wouldnt keep you satisfied for even a week. Therefore we should a get proper one.
I disagree. This phone isn't piece of crap, theses roms, like lestatious, are good, better than oficial. But if you wanna play games, buy pc!!
Yes, you can't play gameloft games, but you can know that before you bought this phone.
Stop cry, flash lestatious rom and try games like angry birds. There are much better games that fifa....
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I can play a lot of games just fine. Either you think it's a pocket sized PS3 or you are plain stupid.. Don't expect top notch performance from a relatively cheap low- or mid level range phone, they do good what they are build for, that does not include full 3D games. (which, again, seen to perform just fine because I tried FIFA and The Sims and both played fine.)
Back to the store kid, and get yourself a PSP or something if you want gaming.
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I totally Disagree, and you should know that you get what you pay for. This phone costs alot less than those heavy phones and still packs a punch. I own a desire HD also but i still love my SGS 3. Its cute and does what its meant for.
I little disappointed with speed of CPU and custom stuff which aren't a lot a that moment, but like more of you, I don't think it's crap too.
Of course there are better phones but what you expected from mid-class phone.
Anyway as much fun SG3 brought to me like any phone before.
wow
are you really so angry because of just the phone not getting 2.2
or is it something else in your life which has caused you to rant like this.
For its price this is one of the best phone i have used. true there are some shortcomings but nothing is perfect.
As many have said before me it does what it is supposed to. Phone meant for communicating and some light entertainment.
You cant really compare it to an ipod touch. For that matter even the iphone, which if bought officially in india is still more than double of what this phone costs.
So chill, and dont get so worked up.
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wow
are you really so angry because of just the phone not getting 2.2
or is it something else in your life which has caused you to rant like this.
For its price this is one of the best phone i have used. true there are some shortcomings but nothing is perfect.
As many have said before me it does what it is supposed to. Phone meant for communicating and some light entertainment.
You cant really compare it to an ipod touch. For that matter even the iphone, which if bought officially in india is still more than double of what this phone costs.
So chill, and dont get so worked up.
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I am becoming too frustrated using this phone. No official froyo update till now. Those hacked froyo updates always crash and have bugs. Finally decided to gonna sell this crap. Its good for nothing. Samsucks!!
Few days earlier just saw Galaxy Ace on the web, I thought it to be good choice. But that sucks too even it has adreno 200 gpu it isnt able to play fifa and shift smoothly but can say near to it. Developers also dont pay any attention to thse phones. These mid range Samsung phones give worse performance than my ipod touch.
Finally decided to spend some more money and buy a proper phone like xperia play or xperia x10 mini pro 2. Xperia play costs around 400$ according to rumors on the web. Its worth it and i amsure that it would keep me satisfied for six months. These samsung phones wouldnt keep you satisfied for even a week. Therefore we should a get proper one.
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IF u wanted a gaming mobile phone, Galaxy 3 wasn't a good choice u made.
Screen resolution is too low ...
But otherwise , this phone awesome
And if u want an official update , u better wait for teh ofiicial update while we flash our mobile getting teh best out of it.
There are too many custom ROM's available now.. Who teh heck wants official updates?
If u don't want these custom ROM's, XDA isn't a right place for u ...!
Why teh hell are u here ..!?
May be u'd change u're opinion after u flash u're ROM to teh custom ROM's available here. Give it a try
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This phone /is/ getting 2.2
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We hope. 1 Month left until they apparently release it.
But I disagree with the OP. I like the small size, good battery life of this phone. I don't use if for gaming, and to be honest, if I needed a mobile gaming machine I'd get a PSP.
This phone has just the right amount of power so that it performs well and has good battery life.
I think you're fighting a losing battle in the Galaxy 3 section!
if you don't like this phone, sell it.
many people love the galaxy 3, and barqers already said it, but you're fighting a losing battle
Phone for that price is OK, but maintenance from Samsung is piece of crap, that is problem.
This is an awesome phone....
You must know what your phone is capable of before buying it. Expect only what you pay for
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Are you expecting mid range phone to perform like a top range phone? Know your device first.
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if u r looking for a gaming phone then wait for sony ericsson's playstation phone
the G3 is a a phone which puts software over hardware and even so without a graphics accelerator it performs several HD games like fifa (from gameloft!!) amazingly well!!!
try to use a phone within its capabilities
(i myself personally find it as a good tricorder!!)
Listen m8 sell the phone l'm sick of people like you who want a high-end device for 200€.What's your problem man???
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Sony Ericsson will let you unlock the bootloader on new Xperia Android phones -- subject to conditions:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/29/sony-ericsson-will-let-you-unlock-bootloader-on-new-xperia-andro/
Unlocking the boot loader in the new Xperia™ smartphones:
http://blogs.sonyericsson.com/devel...e-boot-loader-in-the-new-xperia™-smartphones/
Any news from Motorola on their promise to allow the dev community to modify their new phones or is their word as good as dirt once again?
i am buying the new Xperia play. i need that phone in my life for gaming. i am also very intrested in the arc. its sexy as hell with a bravia engine for the screen. i am impressed
i am really very impressed by this attitude. bravo to them. i am so excited
all i can say is **** you Moto. learn from the smart company that cares about its customers and care about the hardcore people.
once the xperia play is out. i am buying " this coming week i assume "
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absolutely wrong section...........
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you are right. he posted it in the wrong forum. but i think he posted it here for a reason. we are pissed. and Sony is doing it right. if that company which is bigger than motorolla, can understand, why moto cant ?
here's the part that i don't get. Yes it's annoying that moto is so locked down, but it's not like it was any surprise to anyone. They have a history of it, a well known history. They've been working on the droid X since it came out, with about no success, and yet everyone that bought the atrix is screaming about how it should be broken. My question is, if you really wanted a hackable phone, why did you choose this one? You could have gone with something else, even if that meant waiting for other phones to come to AT&T. i believe at&t is launching something like 22+ phones this year?
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here's the part that i don't get. Yes it's annoying that moto is so locked down, but it's not like it was any surprise to anyone. They have a history of it, a well known history. They've been working on the droid X since it came out, with about no success, and yet everyone that bought the atrix is screaming about how it should be broken. My question is, if you really wanted a hackable phone, why did you choose this one? You could have gone with something else, even if that meant waiting for other phones to come to AT&T. i believe at&t is launching something like 22+ phones this year?
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I think that some people bought the phone because Motorola said that they would provide a solution that allowed developers to access the phone (these people are the "Good Faith" purchasers). I believe that Motorola said it first on their YouTube account (after the Motorola employee responsible for replying to comments there said basically what you said above but with fewer words and in a rather rude tone) and then again on their support forums where they said that they hoped to have a solution in place before the 30-day AT&T return policy expired. Motorola may also have said something similar on their Facebook page but I'm not sure.
Other people bought the phone because they didn't understand that Motorola's encrypted bootloaders have never been broken. They are the ones that say stuff like "everything's hackable", which may actually be true but is meaningless in reality unless you also include a timeframe and I don't think that most people want to wait ten trillion years for a brute force crack of a bootloader.
I, on the other hand, decided to wait and see what Motorola would do before making a purchase and so far it's not looking good but I am still hopeful.
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i am buying the new Xperia play. i need that phone in my life for gaming. i am also very intrested in the arc. its sexy as hell with a bravia engine for the screen. i am impressed
i am really very impressed by this attitude. bravo to them. i am so excited
all i can say is **** you Moto. learn from the smart company that cares about its customers and care about the hardcore people.
once the xperia play is out. i am buying " this coming week i assume "
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Have you read the engadget review? Us recommend looking through that before making any decisions regarding the Play..
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I think that some people bought the phone because Motorola said that they would provide a solution that allowed developers to access the phone (these people are the "Good Faith" purchasers). I believe that Motorola said it first on their YouTube account (after the Motorola employee responsible for replying to comments there said basically what you said above but with fewer words and in a rather rude tone) and then again on their support forums where they said that they hoped to have a solution in place before the 30-day AT&T return policy expired. Motorola may also have said something similar on their Facebook page but I'm not sure.
Other people bought the phone because they didn't understand that Motorola's encrypted bootloaders have never been broken. They are the ones that say stuff like "everything's hackable", which may actually be true but is meaningless in reality unless you also include a timeframe and I don't think that most people want to wait ten trillion years for a brute force crack of a bootloader.
I, on the other hand, decided to wait and see what Motorola would do before making a purchase and so far it's not looking good but I am still hopeful.
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I guess I should add another group of people: Those who didn't understand that getting root was not the same as cracking the bootloader but heard that devs had root even before the phone was released.
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I guess I should add another group of people: Those who didn't understand that getting root was not the same as cracking the bootloader but heard that devs had root even before the phone was released.
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researching a subject before purchasing is something everyone should learn......
you wouldn't go out and just buy the first car you find, you'd find the one that matches your needs the best.
If you have not already signed the petition and you feel it is worth it, please do so.
http://www.groubal.com/motorola-lockedencrypted-bootloader-policy/
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And now the mods have moved it.
I think that some people bought the phone because Motorola said that they would provide a solution that allowed developers to access the phone (these people are the "Good Faith" purchasers). I believe that Motorola said it first on their YouTube account (after the Motorola employee responsible for replying to comments there said basically what you said above but with fewer words and in a rather rude tone) and then again on their support forums where they said that they hoped to have a solution in place before the 30-day AT&T return policy expired. Motorola may also have said something similar on their Facebook page but I'm not sure.
Other people bought the phone because they didn't understand that Motorola's encrypted bootloaders have never been broken. They are the ones that say stuff like "everything's hackable", which may actually be true but is meaningless in reality unless you also include a timeframe and I don't think that most people want to wait ten trillion years for a brute force crack of a bootloader.
I, on the other hand, decided to wait and see what Motorola would do before making a purchase and so far it's not looking good but I am still hopeful.
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this . exactly this. when Moto said they will give some access to devs. i thought they are going the HTC way and not Sony way.
now HTC went Moto Way and Sony went the HTC way.
i mean, how stupid can these companies be ? seriously ? sony released the Xperia X10. a beauitiful device and early in UK. people didnt buy it because it was locked. Sony learned from their mistake. new phones? open for you to play with.
HTC ? thery were doing fine. alot of sales. nice devices. they saw Sony failing because of their locked ****. they saw Motorolla devices are not selling very high after they locked them down " thus, sales of new the devices is much less than the droid 1 " as far as i know " i dont have data "
how hard is it to understand when a phone has no community, its a DOA phone ?
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Have you read the engadget review? Us recommend looking through that before making any decisions regarding the Play..
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i did. my only concern is about the screen brightness, from the videos i have seen its fine. i know its not a powerful device like tegra 2. but i am in for the gaming since i am gamer " speaking of which. i know its OT but how is the 3DS ? pass till NGP ?"
i think PS emulator and N64/SNES/GEn Emulators will be amazing on this phone and i will be finally able to have all the old classics on one system + whatever new games comes out will be fine as well.
looking at tegra zone specific games, i dont have much hope to get alot of games on it. and that difference in the games isnt even big at all.
plus the phone looks sexy as hell with its curves. and the screen is really pretty. i know its an LCD but for some reason sony screens look much better than a normal LCD screen, " and if the xperia play is SLCD, then i am happy panda "
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Have you read the engadget review?
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yes. the review said all the goodness could be blocked or overridden by carrier demands/requests.
all hype, no go!
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ll_l_x_l_ll said:
i did. my only concern is about the screen brightness, from the videos i have seen its fine. i know its not a powerful device like tegra 2. but i am in for the gaming since i am gamer " speaking of which. i know its OT but how is the 3DS ? pass till NGP ?"
i think PS emulator and N64/SNES/GEn Emulators will be amazing on this phone and i will be finally able to have all the old classics on one system + whatever new games comes out will be fine as well.
looking at tegra zone specific games, i dont have much hope to get alot of games on it. and that difference in the games isnt even big at all.
plus the phone looks sexy as hell with its curves. and the screen is really pretty. i know its an LCD but for some reason sony screens look much better than a normal LCD screen, " and if the xperia play is SLCD, then i am happy panda "
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I'd wait for the NGP, mostly because of a personal distaste for the screen tech of the 3DS.
As for the Play, I'd be concerned about a lot more than just the dim display. Battery life, an outdated processor, and RAM specs that aren't even really in line with last-gen tech all make it seem like one would be better off buying a more future-ready phone that's compatible with the Android Playstation games. Especially if bought on contract -- in 2 years the Play will be 4 years outdated. I was really looking forward to a solid gaming phone, but this just doesn't seem to be it. Now by no means am I saying the Atrix is the better gaming alternative...only that the Play has some seemingly unsurpassable issues that dedicated gaming controls can't make up for. Then again...until the phone actually comes out, who knows?
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I'd wait for the NGP, mostly because of a personal distaste for the screen tech of the 3DS.
As for the Play, I'd be concerned about a lot more than just the dim display. Battery life, an outdated processor, and RAM specs that aren't even really in line with last-gen tech all make it seem like one would be better off buying a more future-ready phone that's compatible with the Android Playstation games. Especially if bought on contract -- in 2 years the Play will be 4 years outdated. I was really looking forward to a solid gaming phone, but this just doesn't seem to be it. Now by no means am I saying the Atrix is the better gaming alternative...only that the Play has some seemingly unsurpassable issues that dedicated gaming controls can't make up for. Then again...until the phone actually comes out, who knows?
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the last thing i care about is ram. atrix had 1 gig ram and only 170 was free for me only most of the time. as long as its running efficient, then i could care less.
the gpu is not out dated. its same as desire hd. decent. in line with the galaxy S and nexus S. not top of the line tho like the atrix i admit.
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the last thing i care about is ram. atrix had 1 gig ram and only 170 was free for me only most of the time. as long as its running efficient, then i could care less.
the gpu is not out dated. its same as desire hd. decent. in line with the galaxy S and nexus S. not top of the line tho like the atrix i admit.
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lol galaxy s is in line with tegra desire nor where near
Now that Sony Ericsson has taken a leap forward which really is a surprise considering that they have taken a tough stance on unlocking anything. This would put more pressure to Motorola if they need to get a bigger piece of the pie. For sure Motorola is surprised that Sony Ericsson took a different path.
After all, it does make sense that if you have a great piece of hardware and you let the community take a hold of it, word will spread and more consumers will take a note and purchase it.
Guaranteed that ATnT is probably disappointed with some consumers returning their Atrix. I also doubt Bell Canada is breaking open the champagne here when across the store there are more ppl lining up for the iPAD2 than for the Atrix.
The ball is in Motorola's court. Time for them to make a move and less replying on facebook.
Personally I couldnt give a rats ass about this update lol all ure gonna get is a few minor graphical changes and performance tweaks. All I want is for the playstation suite stores to open finally in my area.
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psxpetey said:
Personally I couldnt give a rats ass about this update lol all ure gonna get is a few minor graphical changes and performance tweaks. All I want is for the playstation suite stores to open finally in my area.
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I like the part where you clearly have no idea what you're on about.
Call me crazy, but I can't get that worked up about an OS.
The Xperia Play remains the device I've always dreamed of carrying with me, ever since I first saw the PSP and wished it could fit in a pocket and make calls and texts. If you'd have told me that device would one day stop getting official OS updates, I would hardly have been shocked or put off it. If you'd have told me the manufacturer released its latest beta freely and remained supportive of unofficial development (I know part of the thanks to that is Android), I'd have been impressed.
I have friends with Galaxy Notes and S2s and they see my gamepad, and freaking ZELDA on N64oid, and their eyes light up. It's a really, really cool device. Not that I hate their phones or anything, but I wouldn't swap. Hell I wouldn't swap for a Galaxy S3 or HTC One X or whatever the latest is currently. Now they may be the dream devices for some people here, but for me it would be as exciting as swapping a PS3 for an ironing board. If I didn't think that buttons are an essential for making games fun, I'd buy an iPhone, seriously. Much as I prefer the open nature of Android, iOS has many more apps.
90% of Play owners out there do not have root or an unlocked bootloader. They are not as technical as posters on XDA, and would not have been expecting game buttons to go wrong. It would have been a support nightmare for Sony to have let those people upgrade if there were going to be issues. For the rest of us, we can flash the beta / whatever dev roms we want. What I mainly liked about the ICS beta was the hardware accelerated browsing. But if Gingerbread ends up being the way to go, then I'll just use Opera for that. Nothing else on a generic gamepad-less ICS phone would really hold a candle to playing console games with buttons whereever I want.
I'm much more pissed off at EA for not making our optimised exclusives, FIFA and Dead Space, available in the UK for people who were too late for that deal, even to buy.
Its a phone im getting sick of tinkering with it....i just wanna play my games, text my *****es and occasionly call my parents and tell them im alive...ics pfft.
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I find the part where you say that OP has no idea what hes on about to be worthy of a good ol fashioned facepalm.
ICS is pretty much all OP says it is. Graphical and Performance tweaks. Swipe off notifications (pointless as I have a handy little cross on Gingerbread that removes notifications anyway), Swipe task killer (not as amazing as it sounds as I have a better way...close the app properly) and some browser related stuff like hardware accelerated browsing and swipe off tabs (again, just open up tabs and click the little cross in the corner)
Almost everything on ICS is there to save you a whole, get this, few seconds. More often than not you dont end up swiping a particular notification/app/tab off and end up opening it instead.
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Call me crazy, but I can't get that worked up about an OS.
I have friends with Galaxy Notes and S2s and they see my gamepad, and freaking ZELDA on N64oid, and their eyes light up.
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On ICS, with N64oid you can use the gamepad touchpads.
(but atm, N64oid with ICS is still laggy ...)
Its true that we dont need it. But like my self i bought the phone since i have in mind buying an ICS but didnt wanted to spend $600 or more in it.
I own an ICS tablet and its the first android that doesnt need tweeks or that i find no use of a custom rom to make it work the way i like.
Do i need ICS on my xperia play?
Yes, please.
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I love the part where you think you do. Do me a favor, how about you buy a different brand of phone so you can realize that Sony is actually just as good, if not better at supporting their devices than HTC, Motorola, Samsung, [insert name here].
Better yet, skip a step and just buy a ****ing iPhone. It will compliment your douchiness nicely.
I dont need it, and I'm getting a Hayabusa when it launches locally.
I have a Xoom with 4.0.4 ICS and I don't see why everyone is making such a big fuss.
However, I would have liked to see Sony push out one more GB update for the play with updated Qualcomm drivers, updated Sony apps and maybe improved Web browser.
Im just saying its really not worth the fuss lol who cares what I want is what I was promised ps suite isnt this supposed to be a sweet ass gaming phone with a tit load of games ? I LOOOVE my emulators and the small library of optimised games and psxperia emu sony sure did **** the bed with this phone it could have been so much more!!! Still it is a TON of fun
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Just sharing. As of late I feel that Sony's phones seem way behind the competition. But by the looks of things this phone looks nice and seems to have some power behind it....
http://www.engadget.com/2012/07/26/sony-xperia-mint-lt30p/
And...to me.. I really like the clean look. Would I give up my Xperia PLAY for that...hell no.
Meh. If Sony can release a flagship phone for the US, it might be worth a damn.
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I get the bad feeling that this will be one of those silly US only phones >_<
Sony dropped the ball long ago. The play is my last Sony phone. There's just so much better options now a days.
Support for the play didn't even last 1 year, my money is to important to throw it at a company who isn't in for the long run.
Buying into Sony these days is like buying into rim. A costly error when you can do so much better.
I hate to say it but this is a throw away market, problem is some companies treat there customers the same way.
why sony didn't give us ics:
it is not for touchpad support as they already got that fixed.
it is about the gaming performance.
i have contact with a sony dev and he said: game developers wouldn't update the games with touchpad support for ics, because they don't earn enough money from xperia play users. as i completely undertstand that because this is a game phone.
now people says: why doesn't give sony us something else as compromise? they do! they are helping the freexperia group with fixing things and they see what they can do else (with fxp) for ous
If we ever get Jellybean for our "Play" and gaming comes back... then can we question Sony for their lack of support?? I agree that it is not just about the gamepads and that ICS isnt as smooth as GB was for gaming, but now what do Xperia Play owners do? We must stay with GB basically outdating our phones(by far). I know its not all Sonys fault but we lose more then them seeing how we paid for our phone. Jellybean=working games & touchpads....what do you think?
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Looks cool, if Verizon gets it they'll just ship it with their own old locked version of Android.
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i cant really unterstand what people have against the play. mine runs very smooth with custom rom. Gaming is good(i mostly care for emulators) and the overall expirience is good. My girlfriend got a S2(as i did 1 year ago) and i dont want to trade. I just love the gamepad.
The camera is not that good and the ram could be more but thats the only complain i do have now...
Motawa88 said:
i cant really unterstand what people have against the play. mine runs very smooth with custom rom. Gaming is good(i mostly care for emulators) and the overall expirience is good. My girlfriend got a S2(as i did 1 year ago) and i dont want to trade. I just love the gamepad.
The camera is not that good and the ram could be more but thats the only complain i do have now...
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I don't think people dislike the play. But are grumpy because it kinda flopped in the market. And there's multiple things that caused it too.
But that's what xda is for, to make the best of it. And yes I like it for the game pad, the phone itself may only be middle of performance vs other Android phones but whatever.
Wow, definitely considering this device now, If its announced at IFA the Xperia s will ultimately be dumped as the flag ship.
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Just sharing. As of late I feel that Sony's phones seem way behind the competition. But by the looks of things this phone looks nice and seems to have some power behind it....
http://www.engadget.com/2012/07/26/sony-xperia-mint-lt30p/
And...to me.. I really like the clean look. Would I give up my Xperia PLAY for that...hell no.
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It is kinda nice looking, I like the smooth simple design. But your right, giving up my play for anything else is pretty much not gonna happen.
I will re house my phone once a year before I get another device!
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i cant really unterstand what people have against the play. mine runs very smooth with custom rom. Gaming is good(i mostly care for emulators) and the overall expirience is good. My girlfriend got a S2(as i did 1 year ago) and i dont want to trade. I just love the gamepad.
The camera is not that good and the ram could be more but thats the only complain i do have now...
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I would say the camera is pretty decent actually