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NO 2.1 we want 2.2 for X10!

2.2 is wonderful! X10 can handle it very well!
let's e-mail to SE to express our idea!

if the x10 can be rooted, does that mean that we technically would be able to run froyo on it ? 2.2

i hope so .

Yeah, i saw some vidoes of 2.2 on youtube and i was left feeling really jealous of the nexus one people that will get it!
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when it comes for my x10 ?

se has promised 2.1 and froyo would take another 4 months ..

jnd16d said:
when it comes for my x10 ?
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we willnever get it without root

look at the company that respect their customers http://www.gsmarena.com/all_the_latest_htc_android_phones_will_get_the_froyo_treatment-news-1674.php after only one day of announcement of the new android ,they announced that all their devices will get it before the end of the year ,(ofcource you all know which company iam talking about )

ok,
froyo looks good, very good.
2.1 in Q2010/4 and 2.2 in Q2011/1 for x10 makes no sense.
That means there are a some reasons why SE could stick to 2.1/Q4:
- SE plans a X10 sucessor for Q4 with froyo (including multitouch)
- google wants to have a clean froyo/hardware base, which could mean all f froyo-devices should have multitouch
- ?
- SE is cool or clever enough (like HTC) and announce 2.2/froyo for all X10 device-classes and cancels the 2.1 update

meta96 said:
froyo looks good, very good.
2.1 in Q2010/4 and 2.2 in Q2011/1 for x10 makes no sense.
That means there are a some reasons why SE could stick to 2.1/Q4:
- SE plans a X10 sucessor for Q4 with froyo (including multitouch)
- google wants to have a clean froyo/hardware base, which could mean all f froyo-devices should have multitouch
- ?
- SE is cool or clever enough (like HTC) and announce 2.2/froyo for all X10 device-classes and cancels the 2.1 update
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from where didi you got your info SE didnot canclled 2.1 never said any thing about 2.2

especially since its just been announced that flash will need 2.2 as a minumum.

hoss_n2 said:
from where didi you got your info SE didnot canclled 2.1 never said any thing about 2.2
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problem is, companies are not as stupid as we sometimes thinks. they just make sometimes the wrong desicions.
the x10 has no multi/dualtouch maybe the big screen & dual/multi was (last year) to expensive/not avaible.
To annouce 2.1 two weeks before google I/O is also very stupid, because everyone knows that 2.2 will come at google I/O
... so there must be a reason, maybe a reason SE knows before (e.g. google wants froyo only on multitouch devices, maybe,
look, there is no HTC Legend in the HTC - 2.2 update list) so SE had to announce 2.1 before google I/O . If this is correct we only can hope ...
Second time in my life i have to thank adobe, because flash 10.1 needs 2.2 and this could change everything.
The X10 devices (mini, etc.) and SE cannot survive beside the desire/nexus without flash ... so next week(s), we will see ...

I sincerely hope that Sony Ericsson Xperia to update to Froyo, because if do not update, Sony will be out of the game.
Consumers are not stupid. Not sell any telephone.
I will never again buy a Sony product.

The truth and we really know this already is that we will not see an official update from Sony to the xperia x10 in 2010.
We really need to face this and realize its just NOT going to happen. I am not being negative just realistic.
Our only hope is for the guys on the development side come up with a way to root the x10 and get it to run froyo. But an official update from Sony is VERY unlikely!

meta96 said:
Second time in my life i have to thank adobe, because flash 10.1 needs 2.2 and this could change everything.
The X10 devices (mini, etc.) and SE cannot survive beside the desire/nexus without flash ... so next week(s), we will see ...
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Yeah, I hope google isn't trying to set a baseline for 2.2+ with multitouch as a requirement.
But I do agree with this. Flash could just save us...
Oh and cmboud, we will see an update from SE this year. The problem is if it is the update we want or not

Maybe it sounds stupid but how about a petition? As long its post on multiple forums we can get lots of people, what you think?I willing to start it,just need someone to write me a good intro for it since my english is not the best as you probably have noticed.

It sounds like a good idea but I'm pretty sure it's something that they already know, of COURSE we want the latest and greatest, that's why we choose this phone most likely.
I don't belive a petition will resolve anything in our favour - if they could announce 2.2 they would - it would sell more handsets!
my .02

On a norwegian mobile site mobilen.no, stated:
HTC say they will make 2.2 available on phones that are launched this year, writes Phandroid.com.
The Sony Ericsson says the long term will make 2.2 available for its Xperia X10 models. Here we are waiting still on version 2.1.
http://mobilen.no/wip4/fullt-godbiter-android-2-2/d.epl?id=44606
How long we (X10 owners) have to wait? *Wondering*

An online petition could be a great thing if we wouldn't talk about SE. What do you think will happen? Where to send this petition?
Send it to SE vie email?
Hmmm let me think we will get an answer like "Thank you for your opinion, try to update your x10 via SEUS...blablabla"
Call the Support and inform them about the petition?
The answer would be something like "Don't believe the internet!! The X10 works fine. Try an Update via SEUS... blablabla"
What should we write into that petition? Give us 2.2?
Answer "There will be an Update to 2.1 in Q4... Thank you"
Fix the battery issues
Answer "Thank you very much for your contact, there will be an update try SEUS... blablabla"
Or better "Battery issues? Don't belive the internet!"
I think it's very poor that such a big company doen't care at all about their customers. If SE doen't come up with some ass kicking updates in the next months this was my last SE device.

Bad News for Xperians!!!! :(

While I was browsing, I found this!!!
http://www.slashgear.com/sony-ericsson-confirm-no-froyo-for-xperia-x10-06123921/
they said there will be no froyo or gingerbread update for the Xperia Line up!!! Ohno!!!

We all know that. It`s confirmed after the announce of the Xperia Arc

wow
that is like news old like 6 months... even sony-ericsson guy on their blog wrote that... becouse they are pushing some new PSP phone... or something like that...

so sadddddd

not dev related, moved to general
Best, DK

SE don't want to update their current android phones because of marketing.
people will have to buy xperia arc to get android 2.3. good for their bussiness. this is how it's work.

propc said:
SE don't want to update their current android phones because of marketing.
people will have to buy xperia arc to get android 2.3. good for their bussiness. this is how it's work.
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That's how it works for them, not necessarily for the rest of the industry.
There are phones with worse hardware than the Xperia series which have been given Android 2.2 updates.
IOTW, they **** on their current customers and profit on them. Nothing else.

Its not everything bad.
We can get all that have 2.2 by root phone and we will get multytouch actually we already get it.
They uploaded firmware with multytouch.

as-mario said:
Its not everything bad.
We can get all that have 2.2 by root phone and we will get multytouch actually we already get it.
They uploaded firmware with multytouch.
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that would be good
please support us,for new fw updates for the X8 and X10 family
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=904941

I am for.

What I find most annoying is that SE seems to have forgotten they made the x8 entirely.
I'm not even sure if the x8 is considered "part of the x10 family" or not. I can make semi-informed guesses, but there's no official word to clarify this.

thats bad....

Sony mentioned the x10, mini and mini pro and forgot to mention the X8..??
either they r gonna bring froyo to X8 (which i m think is never gonna happen) or they dont think X8 is important enough to mention..!!

I had tweeted SEAnswers about the Xperia X8 and this is what they had to say, I quote "There may be updates to software, however we will not be upgrading past 2.1 OS".Check the Discussions on their Facebook page, no further updates to the Android version.

So... since the x8 was originally intended to launch with 2.1, this pretty much makes the life-span of this particular device... Dead on Arrival.
It's a fine device, but the policy that comes with it is just utter rubbish.

ARC is first official ICS phone

just got this from sonyericsson.
arc got its ICS flavour from sonyericsson. from a service point from now( we use EMMA which is something like ODIN but only for CARE POINTS)
what is your impression guys, will we get it soon our ics for our beloved SGS2?

mariosraptor said:
just got this from sonyericsson.
arc got its ICS flavour from sonyericsson. from a service point from now( we use EMMA which is something like ODIN but only for CARE POINTS)
what is your impression guys, will we get it soon our ics for our beloved SGS2?
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Next phone will be Sony probably.
The fact that producer of Google phones will update the Flagman after competitors done it, woth something in my eyes.... i have heard Sony much more willing to share kernel develop with community... Samsung only if had to do. Throw the born...
Tied a litle of Samy along with sgs2, like Codeworkx sometime want to throw it to trash...
Ps
"When Samsung do Android phones, it does not get Anroidized, the Android gets Samsunginized"...
Kinda rephrase Chack Norris...
Having so brilliant hardware, so boring, bright as a hell with all this Korean sense of tooo lot of colors... be.......

How is that official if it's not being pushed out over their update service? You may have been given a beta firmware.

U may leak it in arc section
BTW Sony Ericsson Officially came on xda and published the beta rom with wifi,bluetooth,radio disabled but a CWM recovery script enabled it...
And they also released the source code!!
Custom kernels,daily driver,etc
Lucky guys they are...

ARC is not the GSII, therefor this thread is off topic.
We will get ICS in March http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s_ii_and_galaxy_note_to_get_ics_in_march-news-3752.php
Closed.

Delay of Android 4.0 ICS

Sony delayed the roll-out of ics for our devices :
http://www.xperiablog.net/2012/03/30/sony-delays-xperia-android-4-0-ics-update-now-starting-from-mid-april/

wayne850 said:
Sony delayed the roll-out of ics for our devices :
http://www.xperiablog.net/2012/03/30/sony-delays-xperia-android-4-0-ics-update-now-starting-from-mid-april/
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Ohhh....It was a bad news...

OMG! checking update every morning ( now it's delayed

People need to get a grip. It was always going to be end March/begining April for those handsets, it's been moved a a WHOLE 2 WEEKS...
What is wrong with people??? They should be happy they are getting their ICS in two weeks from now, rather than crying into their milk.

I totaly agree with you. Mind you I don't mind I'm already on ICS as of this morning for my Xperia Arc
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People need to get a grip. It was always going to be end March/begining April for those handsets, it's been moved a a WHOLE 2 WEEKS...
What is wrong with people??? They should be happy they are getting their ICS in two weeks from now, rather than crying into their milk.
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CrazyPeter said:
People need to get a grip. It was always going to be end March/begining April for those handsets, it's been moved a a WHOLE 2 WEEKS...
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Only for three out of the eleven handsets. The rest have a month delay - that is not insignificant.

For sure someone would make a patch to use arc s ics update to arc.
Mid-April it is.

Oh no, please not this again. I had this over at the Asus Transformer thread and some of the comments people left just stunned me. Luckily so far these forums seem much more forgiving!
Here's the way I see it, firstly, 2 weeks is nothing. The update is coming, that's grand. 2 weeks wait is fine, you won't even notice.
Secondly, the phones work just fine with GB. There's no big bugs, everything works swimmingly. ICS will bring some tastey new features, and that's great, but I think we should accept a delay for extra features on top of some already pretty brilliant phones.
I can only sit here and hope that the Arc community is more forgiving than the TF forum. Obviously not everyone was bad, but there was a LOT of very angry posts over there, and every single one made me facepalm in the name of extreme first world problems.
I'm looking forward to the update, and I'm sure the wait will fly by

must say i find it quite bizarre with the bells and whistles of the new Xperia S, that it it the last in line for the update. Quite odd. If i was Sony trying to push people to buy it, i would give it the update first.

I just want it to be ICS 4.0.4
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I hope sony release ICS ROM with clear bass

End May or early June for Xperia Arc --> bye bye Sony for me
X10 times are back, at the end it will come in 6 months.
Be ashamed Sony!
I'm pissed because Sony said the want to keep up with updates, at first they did that.
But then they stopped at 2.3.4 and even 120€ 600MHz Samsung devices are on 2.3.6.
Then they said that they won't update the kernel to 3.0 to oush it out faster.
Samsung and HTC did update the kernel to 3.0 and are pushing out 4.0 already!

kuya
maganda ba ang ics 4 dude...?

well
i tried the ICS beta ROMS
all of them are buggy in terms of gaming performance, almost all games are laggy, random blank screen would show up, etc.
also all 2011 xperia devices has very few RAM and i feel it's not enough on ICS, even music player+whatsapp would cause the launcher to redraw (even it's supercharged= =).
so I think Sony has to do more tweaks and programming before they roll out the updates, if they have talented engineer
and Sony also says ICS “may impact performance in some user scenarios” OMG Sony you should have given the devices more RAM.
but.. end of May to early June.. I am pissed off.
I still don't understand why arc s, ray and neo v can update first.. anyway, i will think these 3 phones are bug-testers

People have always said that ICS came between 15marts - 15 april for Arc S?

Flo95 said:
End May or early June for Xperia Arc --> bye bye Sony for me
X10 times are back, at the end it will come in 6 months.
Be ashamed Sony!
I'm pissed because Sony said the want to keep up with updates, at first they did that.
But then they stopped at 2.3.4 and even 120€ 600MHz Samsung devices are on 2.3.6.
Then they said that they won't update the kernel to 3.0 to oush it out faster.
Samsung and HTC did update the kernel to 3.0 and are pushing out 4.0 already!
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Dude, just flash LT18's ftf when it's available.
EDIT: Samsung's firmwares are not as good as Sony/SE's, trust me. On the other hand, HTC's are as solid as ours.

Yeah, I know that and I'll do that. But anyways, they shouldn't forget the Arc.
And normal users won't flash other firmwares on their devices, which will make these guys angry
I hope we'll see arconium on official ICS, too
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I find it incredible that someone smart enough to buy and xperia is too stupid too seriously that the other handsets dates haven't moved, they were never first in lime to get them. The only need here is the first batch are delays by a whole 14 days. Not big deal. I'm happy to have news, we should be thanking Sony for keeping us informed rather than *****ing about thingd
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nice april fool prank sony ! i almost fell for it

SOA_Asy said:
I hope sony release ICS ROM with clear bass
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The beta rom(s) had it
squalldua said:
nice april fool prank sony ! i almost fell for it
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I hope so !!
From my sexy LT15i

[BREAKING NEWS] No ICS for Xperia PLAY?

Read on:
(Via Drippler)
http://www.ubergizmo.com/2012/05/no-android-4-0-update-for-the-sony-xperia-play/

If this turns out to be true I'll be saying goodbye to Sony once I need to upgrade phone :'( shame I've always like Sony ericsson
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narflynn619 said:
Read on:
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http://www.ubergizmo.com/2012/05/no-android-4-0-update-for-the-sony-xperia-play/
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Just read an article yesterday saying the same thing, then there was a reply from a Sony Rep saying that Xperia PLAY is still on track for ICS, and that the reason for the missing Xperia PLAY from the list was due to a typo. I am trying to find the article now and will post the link here, but the Rep said that the PLAY was totally getting ICS. The Xperia Arc S and Neo have the same and or similar specs and that there was no reason that the PLAY would not get it.
This is not the article but still wanted to post. Read the last two posts, claiming that a VZ Rep told them that ICS was coming sometime in June/July to R800x....(I smell BullSh!t)

exactly what i thought too.. the play has the same specs as the ray, arc, and neo
sigh
and if they keep telling us the XPlay won't run ICS as good as it runs GB, then why the hell a lower-end phone such as the upcoming Xperia Tipo (at 800MHz and Adreno 200) is getting ICS when it's released? that means the Xplay can handle it well...

narflynn619 said:
exactly what i thought too.. the play has the same specs as the ray, arc, and neo
sigh
and if they keep telling us the XPlay won't run ICS as good as it runs GB, then why the hell a lower-end phone such as the upcoming Xperia Tipo (at 800MHz and Adreno 200) is getting ICS when it's released? that means the Xplay can handle it well...
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Absoultely agree, Tipo has ancient hardware, 3 years old at least for the GPU

Some people argue that the Xperia Play performs worse on ICS when it comes to gaming. Maybe that´s the reason. I´ve read an article on droidgamers.com where the ICS Beta for Xperia Play had problems with some games.
But I think even if it is the case Sony would bring the update. Sony doesn´t prompt us to update to ICS if people don´t want it. Because of that there isn´t an OTA update, just through PC Companion.

if we dont get it on play then can we flash it as a stock rom when it offically comes out by using the ics update on xperia ray. Example?

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Some people argue that the Xperia Play performs worse on ICS when it comes to gaming. Maybe that´s the reason. I´ve read an article on droidgamers.com where the ICS Beta for Xperia Play had problems with some games.
But I think even if it is the case Sony would bring the update. Sony doesn´t prompt us to update to ICS if people don´t want it. Because of that there isn´t an OTA update, just through PC Companion.
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I don't understand that, here, with the updated Adreno drivers, Fifa 12 runs even faster on ICS. Sure, Gameloft and Rockstar games just crash, but can they be lazy enough for not fixing that?

I love ics to death and I cannot wait for the official version to come out.
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Ive just flashed back to Gingerbread due to a few of the issues with games. Mainly emulators. I had my GBA games backed up onto my netbook and played them on my Play but unfortunately on ICS, no GBA emulators work. It reminds me of Windows XP vs Windows Vista and 7. Some older games don't run on Vista/7 due to compatibilty problems and that appears to be whats happening here with the Play. You want ALL your games to work then stick to Gingerbread. I do however think that Android needs to implement a "Compatibility Mode" type function seen in Windows OSes.
Also, ICS is a memory hog. I always run GO Launcher EX on my Play due to hating the Xperia Launcher but GO Launcher lags quite a bit on ICS roms. Exiting the app draw gives a blank screen (just wallpaper shows) for about 10 seconds before everything shows up again. Scrolling also proves to be very jerky. GO Launcher also provides a handy task killer that is just a 1 press job, making "swipe" task killing pointless.
Im pretty sure as well that ICS is doing away with flash video support. I may be wrong though.
All in all, the cons of ICS outweigh the pros. However, thats just my opinion. I say the Xperia Play should just be a Gingerbread device. If you absolutely NEED ICS, then buy a newer handset.

Has anyone checked if ICS for the Xperia Play is available through PC Companion ?

GBoid (GBA emulator) works on my ICS Rom. Playing Baldur's Gatte Dark Alliance

"Im pretty sure as well that ICS is doing away with flash video support. I may be wrong though."
Flash runs fine on my ICS Tablet..
I haven't been able to check the link (leaving work so a bit rushed) but I'd be shocked, and need more proof then this, that ICS isn't coming. Most of the problems I've heard from the beta sound like.. beta related issues. Code set to Debug, that sort of thing.
Still confident ICS is coming. Better then GB for our device? No idea, but I'd bet (small) amounts of money it's still coming.

Sony did release a Beta rom for the Xperia Play. So they might be working on it to fix the issues or they won't be releasing ICS because it will incompatible.

I really hope the Play doesn't do what the X10 was doing when Froyo was about as old as ICS is now.
I love ICS on my Amaze, but the roms I have tried on my play just don't seem to match up, I'm still running 2.2.4 now, and I think it is running fine.

Was just about to post this, Mentioned on The Verge as well
http://www.theverge.com/2012/5/24/3041799/sony-mobile-drops-xperia-play-ics-upgrade

This news would be horrible if true.
I got fed up waiting for Sony to get their bums in check and yesterday I flashed the true ancestor rom which runs much smoother than stock. I've left my bootloader locked hoping ICS would be here soon so I could experience ICS for the first time when it's official.

First of all, excuse me beforehand for an longer post than I had expect from myself, Secondly, have in mind that I'm sharing my own thoughts about the ICS-update and what I have wrote down is saying why Sony wouldn't, IMO, manage to get the ICS out of beta-stage for the Xperia Play, and this is all my own thoughts, and as always,you who are reading this post are free to agree or disagree to this posts information.
to start the post, this is why I would never read an article or anything like this, and especially not believe it when I'm reading it:
1. I Won't believe that the whole Sony Ericsson/Sony development-team has sent out an beta of ICS to Xperia Play for nothing.
2. Giving us promises about ICS since 1. It's from the 2011 Xperia line, and 2. as long as I have reed, the freaking 2011 Xperia-line will be updated, even if we have "weak" hardware for ICS according to Sony (to be straight forward).
3. KalleD from Sony would never have started an forum especially for feedback in the Xperia-forum without having in mind to get the ICS out of beta-stage to release a full-featured ICS for our phone.
4. The telephone cost to much to not be given the ICS update.
5. It would be REALLY BAD (yes, caps on that) PR(Public Responses) for Sony if they just gave up the development for ICS at an beta-stage with all the promises in mind.
6. The Sony Xperia S from this year is PS-certificated as well so that mean that they also have a reason to develop a fully functional PS-pocket with more added to it for ICS, and get the same experience to Xperia Play isn't that hard seen from a developer-perspective.
7. Have the 6 points before and more in mind, how good-looking and badass would Sony be looking for the big mass if they sold a underpowered hardware with this high price and not be giving us ICS, not that good looking or badass, and neither would they have some of their customers remaining (even if they was foolish about the PS3 and don't gonna get many buyers getting an PS4, especially if it has a feature saying OtherOS (bad yoke).
Even if it comes with big problems during Sony Ericssons article about how ICS needs more RAM to function, and has explained why it doesn't gonna run that smooth as GB for example.
But that's just me, and I gonna stay realistic and not listen to much to news-sites that just wanna release articles without news-values according to myself since they are referring to a page where Sony Xperia S isn't even included in the ICS-updates.
So hey, what about if Xperia S isn't given ICS-update either? OMG OMG OMG!!!!!111 :O some of you may start think about that statement from an unreliable source like me, and yeah, I agree, doesn't sound very true, so let's don't listen to the news to much in this case, since I just played a yoke as well like those news-sites)
So let's just wait a couple of days since May isn't even over yet, and then I didn't even mention that June hasn't been knocking on the door yet, and according to Sony/Sony Ericsson it would be late May, early June for the release.
And as a worst case-scenario we still have the ICS-beta (and even some 4.0.4 builds in the Custom ROM-section), and as well we will see the update for Xperia S, and when the the Xperia S gets the ICS-update with PS-pocket, then the developer-community will be able to pull the trigger of anyhow and manage to get the PS-pocket and features from the Xperia S and push it to the Xperia Play and do some APK-edits and perhaps get a somewhat nice user-experience.

No ICS. http://www.theverge.com/2012/5/24/3041799/sony-mobile-drops-xperia-play-ics-upgrade
http://www.sonymobile.com/gb/software/upgrade-to-android-4/
http://www.knowyourmobile.com/blog/...update_for_the_sony_ericsson_xperia_play.html
http://www.phonenews.com/dishonor-h...tablets-sony-nixes-ics-for-xperia-play-20444/
http://androidcommunity.com/sony-ericsson-xperia-play-ics-update-in-doubt-20120524/

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No ICS. http://www.theverge.com/2012/5/24/3041799/sony-mobile-drops-xperia-play-ics-upgrade
http://www.sonymobile.com/gb/software/upgrade-to-android-4/
http://www.knowyourmobile.com/blog/...update_for_the_sony_ericsson_xperia_play.html
http://www.phonenews.com/dishonor-h...tablets-sony-nixes-ics-for-xperia-play-20444/
http://androidcommunity.com/sony-ericsson-xperia-play-ics-update-in-doubt-20120524/
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All I see here is FUD created from Sony messing up a list of ICS devices. One tech site copier news from the others. Each article you listed deals with the same story. Not believing it myself personally, especially when a beta was released.
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