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Does Motorola Defy Mini have green lens of SOC , If yes, it would be good for xda developers to port out a good rom for original defy of green lens.
It has Gingerbread 2.3.
are you seriously talking about porting to a device barely submitted to the FCC ?
its going to be released in India this week.
ofmb said:
are you seriously talking about porting to a device barely submitted to the FCC ?
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Nevergheless the source code could help our devs
exactly... Hope it has a kernel which is designed for green lens... other things our xda experts can manage !!
So, is there any new info? Does it has a green lense?
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Something smaller than actual 3,7inch screen must be so goddamn uncomfortable to use.
Suchy! said:
Something smaller than actual 3,7inch screen must be so goddamn uncomfortable to use.
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Thats exactly what I thought, too! And the most weird thing about this phone, is the fact that it'll have Gingerbread running! Its curious because, I'm sure, it'll never have more power than a normal Defy, but the reason why the Defy hasn't got Gingerbread was to not have enough power to run GB. This is kinda odd, isn't it?
nitrous² said:
Thats exactly what I thought, too! And the most weird thing about this phone, is the fact that it'll have Gingerbread running! Its curious because, I'm sure, it'll never have more power than a normal Defy, but the reason why the Defy hasn't got Gingerbread was to not have enough power to run GB. This is kinda odd, isn't it?
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Bull****, that's the reason Motorola gave for coming out with Defy+, Defy has by far the power needed to run GB and ICS. Defy and Defy+ have only one hardware difference: red lense. SAME CPU, just an overclock (which you might have noticed, is done with 80% of Defys on xda)
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crakeron said:
Bull****, that's the reason Motorola gave for coming out with Defy+, Defy has by far the power needed to run GB and ICS. Defy and Defy+ have only one hardware difference: red lense. SAME CPU, just an overclock (which you might have noticed, is done with 80% of Defys on xda)
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Sry for not being more specific. I wanted to tell, MOTOROLA told; the reason why a normal Defy won't run GB is because its weak performance. It's not me, stating such crappy reasons.
Another question, do you know something about a Defy+ with green lense? I'm confused, because my cousin has got one. He bought it a week ago. I cant check it, because he's not in Germany atm.
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nitrous² said:
Sry for not being more specific. I wanted to tell, MOTOROLA told; the reason why a normal Defy won't run GB is because its weak performance. It's not me, stating such crappy reasons.
Another question, do you know something about a Defy+ with green lense? I'm confused, because my cousin has got one. He bought it a week ago. I cant check it, because he's not in Germany atm.
If I helped you, please feel free to hit the thx button.
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motorola wants your money, and your life, Defy y Defy+ are the same including prosessor the only thing that change is the kernel and OC thats it, check it for your self www.pdadb.net
nitrous² said:
Sry for not being more specific. I wanted to tell, MOTOROLA told; the reason why a normal Defy won't run GB is because its weak performance. It's not me, stating such crappy reasons.
Another question, do you know something about a Defy+ with green lense? I'm confused, because my cousin has got one. He bought it a week ago. I cant check it, because he's not in Germany atm.
If I helped you, please feel free to hit the thx button.
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Defy+ does not have green lense (SoC module), it has Red lense and only red ones (Bayer module). That's why the official gingerbread ROM (for Defy+) and custom ROMs based on it don't work with the Defy Green Lens camera.
Defys have Green Lenses (A small amount exist with Red Lenses), the Defy+ has exclusively Red Lense
crakeron said:
Defy+ does not have green lense (SoC module), it has Red lense and only red ones (Bayer module). That's why the official gingerbread ROM (for Defy+) and custom ROMs based on it don't work with the Defy Green Lens camera.
Defys have Green Lenses (A small amount exist with Red Lenses), the Defy+ has exclusively Red Lense
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Can you please define the difference between the two modules (not only the lens color), you called them SoC and Bayer?!
IMHO both are SoC Modules from different manufacturer - if you have other informarion please let me know!
Thanks
btw. this should be the 'red lens - bayer filter array' module http://www.aptina.com/assets/downloadDocument.do?id=178
Update: as of this document 'red lens' its non-SoC module http://www.aptina.com/assets/downloadDocument.do?id=140
but i wouldnt call it Bayer Module... it should be called non-SoC Module...
Here are some papers if someone would like to know more about the red-lens non-SoC Hardware:
http://www.trulydisplays.com/ccm/specs/5.0M%20Sensor%20Aptina%20MT9P012%20Spec.pdf
lord0815 said:
Can you please define the difference between the two modules (not only the lens color), you called them SoC and Bayer?!
IMHO both are SoC Modules from different manufacturer - if you have other informarion please let me know!
Thanks
btw. this should be the 'red lens - bayer filter array' module http://www.aptina.com/assets/downloadDocument.do?id=178
Update: as of this document 'red lens' its non-SoC module http://www.aptina.com/assets/downloadDocument.do?id=140
but i wouldnt call it Bayer Module... it should be called non-SoC Module...
Here are some papers if someone would like to know more about the red-lens non-SoC Hardware:
http://www.trulydisplays.com/ccm/specs/5.0M Sensor Aptina MT9P012 Spec.pdf
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Bayer is the module's name in the logcat under CameraCommon. That's the most reliable way to check which module you have. There's plenty of threads on that if you like
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nitrous² said:
I wanted to tell, MOTOROLA told; the reason why a normal Defy won't run GB is because its weak performance.
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Stupid Motorola, so a Defy Mini, with a HVGA screen and a worser CPU, does fit 2.3??
WTF?!
(Not against you Nitrous, just against Motorola )
But I would trust to Motorola, that they release it with 2.2 or even 2.1, with a shame.
popcorn1122 said:
its going to be released in India this week.
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I bet it was Shah Rukh Khan who has blackmailed moto to release a cheaper device. He threatened to never use a moto device on his movies again....sry if this sounds stupid, but I cant figure out the reason of this, in my opinion, useless device development/release.
Is it just me, or does my theory sounds a little racist??...
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lol no way i m going to buy this even if they provide it for Re 1 also lolzzzzzzzzz
News articles about "Defy Mini" are talking about XT320 model. But Motorola didn't mention "DEFY" word in description of XT320 model on official page:
http://www.motorola.com/Consumers/C...ervices/Mobile-Phones/ci.MOTO-XT320-CN-ZH.alt
It have "Cortex A5, 600MHz processor" (probably not from TI)
while MB525 & MB526 uses TI OMAP 3630 which is Cortex A7
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News articles about "Defy Mini" are talking about XT320 model. But Motorola didn't mention "DEFY" word in description of XT320 model on official page:
http://www.motorola.com/Consumers/C...ervices/Mobile-Phones/ci.MOTO-XT320-CN-ZH.alt
It have "Cortex A5, 600MHz processor" (probably not from TI)
while MB525 & MB526 uses TI OMAP 3630 which is Cortex A7
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The page claims that the phone is "splash proof, dust proof and scratch resistant", so I suppose the "Defy Mini" name is just coined by the media due to speculation?
it looks like defy mini is completely different from regular defys. arm a5 or arm v6 is completely different from cortex a8 we have and its driver, even if it is for soc module will be incompatible with ours. so no help for us green lens defy owners
It might seem vague to ask this questions, but I have searched all around and it is very unclear. I understand that the Froyo Kernel is needed for the Green Lens camera, but then there are two CM9 ROMS with Froyo Kernels. Epsylon3's and Quarx.
I've tried sorting out the differences between these and it is still unclear.
I think it would benefits all DEFY Green Lens users to not only get a correct recommendations but also to know the differences, so we can pick one to use.
So if anyone can feedback on this....great.
Paul
I have used Froyo release of Epsylon3 on my green lens defy and found some issues bugging videocamera and 720p playback lag...have also tried Skank CM9 release which are marginally better..
Quarx do not release for Froyo kernel now so I wont recommend...I can surely try the epsy or the skank CM9 anytime
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Quarx's was made quite a while ago. 8th march I think. There has been a lot of big fixes since in the epsylon build,not to mention extra features like; lock screen shortcuts, lock screen weather, themes and per-app data counter, better controlled hwui. Not to mention battery life improvements.
I find a bit more performance and just about same features in skank builds compared to epsylons.
For green lens I think either epsylon or skank builds for now.
Hello,
I've installed CM7, then CM9, but they all have various bugs that vary annoys me. like the camera freeze bug in CM7, and some custom ring tones and sometimes cant answer call with CM9.
Can someone give me a rom with the least bug? I don't care about design, just min bug or non at all.
Thanks.
senia3 said:
Hello,
I've installed CM7, then CM9, but they all have various bugs that vary annoys me. like the camera freeze bug in CM7, and some custom ring tones and sometimes cant answer call with CM9.
Can someone give me a rom with the least bug? I don't care about design, just min bug or non at all.
Thanks.
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CM7.1 is a stable ROM, you can try also CM7.2, and now CM10 is under development, each one has a Froyo or GB Kernel,
CM7.1(Froyo Kernel) ->
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1033654 (11/11/11build)
CM7.2(Froyo Kernel) ->
http://www.defy-cm.net/defy-cm7-nightly/ (12/31/12 build is the most stable in my opinion... needs some camera fix only for red lens)
CM10(Froyo kernel) ->
http://acrane.eu/defy/defy-cm10-nightly-quarx/
Any question just ask, good hacking!
For minimum bugs use wiui GB build,
And for best battery use jboogy's liquidginger(old ROM with 2.3.4 gingerbread base)
Wiui gb rom is stable. Using it since a month now.
S3nt fr0m my D3fy/w1u1 GB st4BL3
Thank you for your time.
Whats the differences between the froyo kernel and the GB kernel? and the nightly vs jorden and such..
How to check if I have a red lens? by looking at it yes I have red but I don't sure..
And a small correction, by stable I mean stable(won't crash) and with the least amount of bugs possible, good battery life is pretty important too. design and looks doesn't matter for me.
Thank you all again!
senia3 said:
Thank you for your time.
Whats the differences between the froyo kernel and the GB kernel? and the nightly vs jorden and such..
How to check if I have a red lens? by looking at it yes I have red but I don't sure..
And a small correction, by stable I mean stable(won't crash) and with the least amount of bugs possible, good battery life is pretty important too. design and looks doesn't matter for me.
Thank you all again!
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The Froyo Kernel can work with Green and Red lens Defy(SOC or BAYER module, respectively), and the GB Kernel only with Red Lens Defy,, that's because teh GB comes with Defy+ builds and the Defy+ has only Red lens, and can support 720p recording
To know which lens you have, just download the app CatLog, intall it, open the camera, close the camera, open CatLog, and find JordanCameraWrapper(The lib which check the device type you have), if in the log says BAYER you have Red lens, if says SOC you have Green lens(Is the general procedure, sometimes you can have Green lens with BAYER Module, just watch the camera under the light and check the color!),
So which ROM you should install?? First check the lens, if you have green is better to use a froyo kernel based, if you have red lens, depends of the features of the ROM and if you are interested in the 720p recording and panorama.
I go for CM7.2, is really really great, WIUI is very good too, just flash and make your own opinion!
Good luck!
LeonardoJegigzem said:
The Froyo Kernel can work with Green and Red lens Defy(SOC or BAYER module, respectively), and the GB Kernel only with Red Lens Defy,, that's because teh GB comes with Defy+ builds and the Defy+ has only Red lens, and can support 720p recording
To know which lens you have, just download the app CatLog, intall it, open the camera, close the camera, open CatLog, and find JordanCameraWrapper(The lib which check the device type you have), if in the log says BAYER you have Red lens, if says SOC you have Green lens(Is the general procedure, sometimes you can have Green lens with BAYER Module, just watch the camera under the light and check the color!),
So which ROM you should install?? First check the lens, if you have green is better to use a froyo kernel based, if you have red lens, depends of the features of the ROM and if you are interested in the 720p recording and panorama.
I go for CM7.2, is really really great, WIUI is very good too, just flash and make your own opinion!
Good luck!
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THANK YOU VARY MUCH!
At last I understood the differences and what should I flash. Thank you so much again!
If no one else have something to add, you can lock.
Im currently going to buy another Motorola Defy but since its new in the box I can't know what lense does my defy have is there any information on the box It actually shows up if its a red lense or a green lense?
What are your thoughts about a green lense? I currently have a red lense and used the HD recording camera few times from walter's Roms (I didn't even record a usefull video, just for testing) I commonly use a cm7.2 from FuzZ froyo kernel and Im quite happy with it, but since Quarx is developing this new kernel I wonder if Green Lense will fall back or something :/
Maybe you should buy a Defy+.
Can anyone let me know the best and stable Custom rom for my MOTOROLA DEFY with green lens? I have used several roms but had issues with mobile data, camera (worst quality), processing speed (disgusting) and UI response (phone gets stuck). Kindly suggest me the best rom to overcome these problems. Thanks in advance.
In my opinion, the most stable is CyanogenMod7.
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hsihtin said:
Can anyone let me know the best and stable Custom rom for my MOTOROLA DEFY with green lens? I have used several roms but had issues with mobile data, camera (worst quality), processing speed (disgusting) and UI response (phone gets stuck). Kindly suggest me the best rom to overcome these problems. Thanks in advance.
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Yes, CM7 might be the way to go for you.
Use CM7 or WIUI....
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I'm using CM9 with great results. No lag and all features working well.
hsihtin said:
Can anyone let me know the best and stable Custom rom for my MOTOROLA DEFY with green lens? I have used several roms but had issues with mobile data, camera (worst quality), processing speed (disgusting) and UI response (phone gets stuck). Kindly suggest me the best rom to overcome these problems. Thanks in advance.
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Although my Defy is the Red Lens, I used CM7 for one year with no problems at all.
Now I'm using 11/05 CM10 Quarkx ROM and it's working great. No problems with mobile data, camera, processing and UI response until now.
Wiui and mokee newbeginning are the most stable, fast and battery keeper roms.
Jó ez a defy+