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Anyone in Jacksonville Fl with a Note?

Hi guys, I am itching to buy a note even though I am with Sprint and would nver switch to ATT. I keep convincng myself to wait but, just not sure this kind of screen realestate will surface in a phone again. I have read just about every forum and review in the past several weeks- at least twice...lol.... The only thing that is holding me up is warranty concerns and the pen tile screen. I have been bothered by every pentile screen I have seen and can clearly see pixels when others claims that you would never see them with normal use or that they don't not exist. I would love to see one in person to aid my buying decision. I am not at all concerned about the size, only the screen as I tend to watch movies, read ebooks, and surf the web more than anything? Please let me know, thanks.
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linzgeneral said:
Hi guys, I am itching to buy a note even though I am with Sprint and would nver switch to ATT. I keep convincng myself to wait but, just not sure this kind of screen realestate will surface in a phone again. I have read just about every forum and review in the past several weeks- at least twice...lol.... The only thing that is holding me up is warranty concerns and the pen tile screen. I have been bothered by every pentile screen I have seen and can clearly see pixels when others claims that you would never see them with normal use or that they don't not exist. I would love to see one in person to aid my buying decision. I am not at all concerned about the size, only the screen as I tend to watch movies, read ebooks, and surf the web more than anything? Please let me know, thanks.
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Like you I use mines for the same thing books, netflix and wed.
I look passed the pixels thing and just took the plunge and bought the Note
been happy and no complaints.
I see people talking about volume issues, screen issues, screen lock issues the only issue I had was the size. it's too small for my liking and that's cause Im coming from the Tad 7'' used as cell phone for 1 year.
like Nike just do it. lol
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Not in Jax, but in Everett, WA with my Note. Had it for about two Weeks, and I love this dang thing. Lol. The display and snapiness of the processor sold me. This is my very first Android device, and I have to say that I am very happy with it. I highly recommend this phone. Once you get this screen you'll never back to anything smaller.
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Im in Tallahassee Florida with my 24hr old galaxy note. I guess im no expert at screens but this screen is beautiful. Ive had the Tmobile Vibrant and recently just sold my release day international sgs2. The screen is not as bright as my sgs2 but its still top notch. Its crystal clear. You will NOT regret your decision.
Yesturday at work, I watch all my coworkers jaws drop at this device. Most have Moto Razr, iphone4s, streak, incredible s2, and some other new android devices.
Seems like samsung devices are subject to witch hunts, if you look hard enough your bound to find something. I can say with certainty, that I will not have another device until Galaxy Note 2 is out. Mind you Ive had every highend device thats been released in the last 2 years.

intruda119 said:
Im in Tallahassee Florida with my 24hr old galaxy note. I guess im no expert at screens but this screen is beautiful. Ive had the Tmobile Vibrant and recently just sold my release day international sgs2. The screen is not as bright as my sgs2 but its still top notch. Its crystal clear. You will NOT regret your decision.
Yesturday at work, I watch all my coworkers jaws drop at this device. Most have Moto Razr, iphone4s, streak, incredible s2, and some other new android devices.
Seems like samsung devices are subject to witch hunts, if you look hard enough your bound to find something. I can say with certainty, that I will not have another device until Galaxy Note 2 is out.Ho Mind you Ive had every highend device thats been released in the last 2 years.
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Thanks . Where did you buy yours and how sharp is the text compared to the Iphone 4?

linzgeneral said:
Thanks . Where did you buy yours and how sharp is the text compared to the Iphone 4?
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I truly don't understand the fuss over the iphone screen. I was without a phone for a couple of hours yesterday and used my coworkers iphone. I had to zoom in on every page unlike my sgs2, infuse and now note. If you were watching me using the phone, you would have thought I was blind trying to navigate ebay, xda, fedex, usps and a few other sites.
Not going to go into long detail but all in all I liked the tmo vibrants screen better than the iphones. Sgs2 and note in my opionion blows other devices out of the water.
Im no sales man or speaker for samsung, but I couldnt imagine using anything other then amoled displays. I went a total 4 weeks without my sgs2, and in between I had a atrix and htc inspire. They both were sold the moment I found a buyer.

intruda119 said:
I truly don't understand the fuss over the iphone screen. I was without a phone for a couple of hours yesterday and used my coworkers iphone. I had to zoom in on every page unlike my sgs2, infuse and now note. If you were watching me using the phone, you would have thought I was blind trying to navigate ebay, xda, fedex, usps and a few other sites.
Not going to go into long detail but all in all I liked the tmo vibrants screen better than the iphones. Sgs2 and note in my opionion blows other devices out of the water.
Im no sales man or speaker for samsung, but I couldnt imagine using anything other then amoled displays. I went a total 4 weeks without my sgs2, and in between I had a atrix and htc inspire. They both were sold the moment I found a buyer.
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Thanks for the feedback. Thats exactly my point. I hated the vibrant's screen because the text looks like Lego blocks. I have a Sprint GS2 and the resolution just isn't good? enough as the text could look jagged and blurry sometimes. I would match prefer the sharp and solid - e ink type of resolution/text on say an IPhone 4 rather than the sometimes oversatuarated color on the Samsungs. That's why I ask about the IPhone 4 screen, not so much for color or contrast but for the sharpness of text sine I read alot; trust me I would never buy an IPhone with a baby screen size from three years ago. The HTC Rezound is the only screen I have seen thus far that can match an Iphone 4 in this regard but that screen size at 4.3 has now become too small for my taste...lol...

Screen has a yellow tint

I know that no one waiting for their phone wants to see a thread like this, but I got my phone today from moto and noticed that the screen has a yellow tint to it. It isn't quite as bad when it is turned all the way up, but I don't think most of us use the phone day to day at 100% brightness. The attached picture is the N6 next to my OPO. I was just curious if anyone that got theirs today noticed the same thing.

RMA

A more ironic comparison could never have been made. LOL!

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I have a feeling that will ultimately be necessary. It just sucks because I REALLY don't feel like dealing with the hassle.

Thats the only benefit of Google Play.
You got your phone first but if I have to RMA (If I ever get the phone) they will send me a replacement first.

Woah the opo looks bright compared to the nexus 6. Let's wait until more of us get it before deciding to rma.
One thing is moto will do advanced rma so it won't take 2 months to return it like it did for my opo.
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just looks like a warm display vs a cooler display...as in color temps. I dont see any problem with it in fact 1+1 looks too "cool" for my tastes.

Hope this isn't by design. With LCDs, this could be a bad backlight. Color temp isn't controlled by a backlight with AMOLED, though, so I'm not sure how this could be a hardware problem. More than one phone has been released where manufacturers tried the "warm" color temp route before customers complained and they patched a cooler temp. Even iPhone went through it.

selayan said:
Woah the opo looks bright compared to the nexus 6. Let's wait until more of us get it before deciding to rma.
One thing is moto will do advanced rma so it won't take 2 months to return it like it did for my opo.
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I will def wait a few days and give more people a chance to get it before doing anything. And thank god for companies better than OnePlus. Well..at least better at RMA...I wouldn't say that this "launch" was much less frustrating than theirs.
rdmetz said:
just looks like a warm display vs a cooler display...as in color temps. I dont see any problem with it in fact 1+1 looks too "cool" for my tastes.
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That is what I am leaning towards. Just wanted to give everyone a heads up to keep an eye out for it and also see what you all thought.

bholyk said:
I will def wait a few days and give more people a chance to get it before doing anything. And thank god for companies better than OnePlus. Well..at least better at RMA...I wouldn't say that this "launch" was much less frustrating than theirs.
That is what I am leaning towards. Just wanted to give everyone a heads up to keep an eye out for it and also see what you all thought.
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Most people prefer a cooler display. If it's just the color profile, it'll be fixed by someone in a matter of days. The plus of an open phone.

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The plus of an open phone.
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Amen to that

rdmetz said:
just looks like a warm display vs a cooler display...as in color temps. I dont see any problem with it in fact 1+1 looks too "cool" for my tastes.
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I think this is right. It looks like "normal" vs "cool" display modes on my S4. I stuck with "normal".
I am sure people will come out with apps to change it, like my S4. Might have to be root/built-in custom ROM feature, though.

I mentioned this over the weekend that the nexus 6 a warmer tuned color temp to it when I compared it to my opo and g3 at the tmo store. Looks like it might be pretty prevalent.

Tsukasa Buddha said:
I think this is right. It looks like "normal" vs "cool" display modes on my S4. I stuck with "normal".
I am sure people will come out with apps to change it, like my S4. Might have to be root/built-in custom ROM feature, though.
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It's usually done at the kernel level, but could be made to be adjusted outside of hardcoded settings if coded to do so.

rdmetz said:
just looks like a warm display vs a cooler display...as in color temps. I dont see any problem with it in fact 1+1 looks too "cool" for my tastes.
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Agreed. Looks like the N6 is more color accurate and the 1plus1 looks blue

djkinetic said:
I mentioned this over the weekend that the nexus 6 a warmer tuned color temp to it when I compared it to my opo and g3 at the tmo store. Looks like it might be pretty prevalent.
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I must have missed that post. Hopefully if most people don't like it Google with make it cooler in a future update or maybe my eyes just need to get used to more accurate color temps.

bholyk said:
I know that no one waiting for their phone wants to see a thread like this, but I got my phone today from moto and noticed that the screen has a yellow tint to it. It isn't quite as bad when it is turned all the way up, but I don't think most of us use the phone day to day at 100% brightness. The attached picture is the N6 next to my OPO. I was just curious if anyone that got theirs today noticed the same thing.
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Could this be the digitizer adhesive issue we've seen before from the first phones right off the manufacturing line? Basically it's where the glue behind the screen has not fully had time to dry and go completely clear. It happened with iPhone 4s and 5 launches, HTC, Moto X, and others. It usually goes away over time, but people often get replacements anyway. Since that may be hard to do this instant, I'd say give it a week or two.

bholyk said:
I must have missed that post. Hopefully if most people don't like it Google with make it cooler in a future update or maybe my eyes just need to get used to more accurate color temps.
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They went through this with the Nexus 4. It'll be taken care of.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nexus4displaycontrol

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Could this be the digitizer adhesive issue we've seen before from the first phones right off the manufacturing line? Basically it's where the glue behind the screen has not fully had time to dry and go completely clear. It happened with iPhone 4s and 5 launches, HTC, Moto X, and others. It usually goes away over time, but people often get replacements anyway. Since that may be hard to do this instant, I'd say give it a week or two.
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I was thinking the same thing but when I read about it online it said that most of the time if it is a glue issue then the yellowing is more splotchy and not an even full screen distribution. But either way I will give it some time to see what happens

elkay said:
They went through this with the Nexus 4. It'll be taken care of.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nexus4displaycontrol
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Good to know, thanks

Slight pink hue.

I have noticed my unit has a slight pink hue. When tilting device vertically I can see it disappears and its only visible when looking straight on the screen.
I am not used to AMOLED displays, last I used was Galaxy S2 is this a common issue or maybe not an issue?
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I saw this too, but it seems to have settled with use

I have a replacement coming tomorrow for slight cosmetic damage on the back so will see if it has that hue or not
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I have a replacement coming tomorrow for slight cosmetic damage on the back so will see if it has that hue or not
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I take back my original reply, pink hue still there

It looks like its the "feature" of this panel. Something I need to get used to.
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Are you sure its not your face, mine looks pinkish dead on and looks normal again at an angle.
Switch to sRGB aswel as the out of the box settings look like a HD Cartoon

I don't think it's a face reflection. I have tried sRGB but its way too washed for my liking.
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My display is warmer/yellower than I expected straight on (not as much from an angle) - I thought they figured this stuff out by now?
When I turn on sRGB mode it makes it less yellow but too washed out and it doesn't seem to stick after reboot. Anyone?
Put it this way, whites on mine definitely do not look pure white like some reviews have said. I hate how screens can differ....

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My display is warmer/yellower than I expected straight on (not as much from an angle) - I thought they figured this stuff out by now?
When I turn on sRGB mode it makes it less yellow but too washed out and it doesn't seem to stick after reboot. Anyone?
Put it this way, whites on mine definitely do not look pure white like some reviews have said. I hate how screens can differ....
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I feel mine is the same. I recently had a HTC one m7 so maybe it is just me being not used to AMOLED displays but mine feels very yellow/warm... I can only see true whites when looking at the screen from an angle!

hltbest said:
I feel mine is the same. I recently had a HTC one m7 so maybe it is just me being not used to AMOLED displays but mine feels very yellow/warm... I can only see true whites when looking at the screen from an angle!
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Yes sounds like mine. I called Google and they said if I want I can have another sent to me (they would put a hold/authorization charge on my account) and then I send the original back when received. Then the hold/charge is dropped. I told them I'd think about it.
Any chance the warmness will change/look more normal over time or no? I'm pretty positive that it is actually more yellow than it is supposed to be compared to "normal" ones, so don't second guess yourself if you think it is. I've had this issue so many times in the past with phones....

just4747 said:
Yes sounds like mine. I called Google and they said if I want I can have another sent to me (they would put a hold/authorization charge on my account) and then I send the original back when received. Then the hold/charge is dropped. I told them I'd think about it.
Any chance the warmness will change/look more normal over time or no? I'm pretty positive that it is actually more yellow than it is supposed to be compared to "normal" ones, so don't second guess yourself if you think it is. I've had this issue so many times in the past with phones....
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Hmm.. It's a bit gutting if something is wrong! I've just managed to set the darn thing up. It does feel awfully yellow... The only way I could know if it wasn't right was to see another one... So maybe I'll have to pop to CPW and see if they have a display one to compare to.. I only have 14 days to do an exchange of needed and I'm already 2 days into that now!
I'd feel stupid if I took this back and nothing was wrong but at the same time I'd feel stupid keeping this handset and finding out that the screen was rubbish!

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Hmm.. It's a bit gutting if something is wrong! I've just managed to set the darn thing up. It does feel awfully yellow... The only way I could know if it wasn't right was to see another one... So maybe I'll have to pop to CPW and see if they have a display one to compare to.. I only have 14 days to do an exchange of needed and I'm already 2 days into that now!
I'd feel stupid if I took this back and nothing was wrong but at the same time I'd feel stupid keeping this handset and finding out that the screen was rubbish!
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I hear ya, yeah we do have 2 weeks but they also said we have a 1 year warranty of some type..not sure what the difference is but she said they would only replace with new ones right now since no refurbs.
Not sure what to do....

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I hear ya, yeah we do have 2 weeks but they also said we have a 1 year warranty of some type..not sure what the difference is but she said they would only replace with new ones right now since no refurbs.
Not sure what to do....
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I've just read online the 5x has had massive issues with yellow screens. Google is replacing them so I'm definitely going to pop into CPW and raise the issue with them. When holding my phone next to my old HTC one m7 its clearly very yellow, which can't be right!
Frustrating as I imagine that CPW won't have a replacement in stock yet...
Just google nexus 5x yellow screen to see what has been happening!

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I've just read online the 5x has had massive issues with yellow screens. Google is replacing them so I'm definitely going to pop into CPW and raise the issue with them. When holding my phone next to my old HTC one m7 its clearly very yellow, which can't be right!
Frustrating as I imagine that CPW won't have a replacement in stock yet...
Just google nexus 5x yellow screen to see what has been happening!
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Yep I saw the 5X issues.
Well let me know what happens when you go.
Thanks.

Every amoled I have has had this to a certain extent or another. My GS6 edge, my Moto Maxx (international version of the turbo).. It's something I have grown use to on amoled displays. I can see it in all of them, even if it's slight. Some people just do not see it or notice it for whatever reason.

I have a felling that all phones will have this "issue".
I had mine against Galaxy S6 edge plus and it seemed that mine has a better colours etc. But it was on the first day and I didn't notice pink/yellow hue so wasn't looking for it in Samsung device.
Regarding CPW exchange stock. I have ordered it this morning in store and got a text it has been despatched so should have it tomorrow.
So don't worry and go to store. Just say you spoke to customer service and they told you to come to store to order new one.
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Every amoled I have has had this to a certain extent or another. My GS6 edge, my Moto Maxx (international version of the turbo).. It's something I have grown use to on amoled displays. I can see it in all of them, even if it's slight. Some people just do not see it or notice it for whatever reason.
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I was just going to ask this - for the people who are saying the screen is great and whites are really white, etc...I mean they can't really be seeing what we are seeing right? It's not awful or terrible but it is definitely noticeable slightly yellowish/warm to me, especially compared to my LCD G3 screen and an iPhone 5 screen.
Do you really think all AMOLEDs are slightly yellow/warm? I can't let myself believe that but at the same time I haven't had an AMOLED in a while so it's hard for me to decide in my mind...

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I was just going to ask this - for the people who are saying the screen is great and whites are really white, etc...I mean they can't really be seeing what we are seeing right? It's not awful or terrible but it is definitely noticeable slightly yellowish/warm to me, especially compared to my LCD G3 screen and an iPhone 5 screen.
Do you really think all AMOLEDs are slightly yellow/warm? I can't let myself believe that but at the same time I haven't had an AMOLED in a while so it's hard for me to decide in my mind...
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I was talking more about the pinkish hue. Amoled whites have always sucked. lol They are never white but always have a tint to them. With the nexus s it was a blueish tint, with later devices like the GS6, Turbo etc... it's a pinkish tint.. I mean if you just do a search of Insert_any_device_name_that_uses_amoled_screens_here and "pink tint" or "blue tint" or "purple tint" there will be at least one thread or something about it online for every single device.. lol I think some people's eyes aren't as sensitive to it so it's not as noticeable to them

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I was talking more about the pinkish hue. Amoled whites have always sucked. lol They are never white but always have a tint to them. With the nexus s it was a blueish tint, with later devices like the GS6, Turbo etc... it's a pinkish tint.. I mean if you just do a search of Insert_any_device_name_that_uses_amoled_screens_here and "pink tint" or "blue tint" or "purple tint" there will be at least one thread or something about it online for every single device.. lol I think some people's eyes aren't as sensitive to it so it's not as noticeable to them
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Well I consider mine more yellow than pinkish, and also goes away when you tilt it - but I'm sure everyone sees the temperature slightly different.
I know there are always variations of screens but knowing that there PROBABLY is a much more balanced/correct version of the display out there is an awful feeling - the thought of having to get a second one and the second one will possibly suck too is just the worst (first world problems).
It also sucks that these aren't in local stores to go in and compare the display to.

Fwiw, mines the exact same way. There's a small degree of head-on angle that goes yellow-whites instead of bluish-whites.
Putting it side-by-side with my Turbo, its still a lot less yellow and I never had an issue with the Turbo screen.

Marques Brownlee has spoken!

Check out MKBHD's new review of the Pixel 2 / XL. Thoughts?

Halt shipping and conduct a QC investigation...

Watched this video this morning! Can't wait for my P2XL to arrive tomorrow!
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As always, an honest review.
Makes me more excited for my delivery, although it is one day past my ship date and I have no confirmation.
Blue hue, won't bother me at all.
Muted colors. I believe google will provide some options with a software update at some point, but I've already seen the phone at Verizon and the colors didn't bother me at all.
Otherwise, the phone will definitely be the best I've ever had.

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As always, an honest review.
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I worry sometimes that MKBHD is too much of an android fanboy & then a review comes out like this & I don't care anymore. LOL!
Seriously, I've watched him since he was a teenager & I believe what he says.

I don't know what to think anymore. Some say this phone is a turd. Others, like MKBHD, praise it. Guess I'm glad I didn't cancel my order and I can find out for myself. Mine is on a truck for delivery - three full days ahead of schedule. So that's good. Although I'm not sure why I'm getting my 128gb black version ahead of people who ordered a full day before me, but that's Google's terrible shipping for you.

I'm going to honestly say that all this news on the Pixel 2XL feels like a smear campaign or something. I swear, I wasn't seeing as many news stories as when Samsung had phones exploding and they were refusing to let them on planes. Why is something that is largely subjective as screen preference, dotted with a few actual hardware defects being plastered everywhere on the internet. I seriously can't scroll one or two screens, in Google, Newstand, Google+, Facebook, etc without seeing something about the damn screen.

b ..bb.bbbut the screen looks funny when i try to watch a YouTube video at the lowest light setting with 1 eye holding it sideways with a strobe light going off in the background
seriously though i don't know. Google F'ed my shipping up and i went from having it yesterday to having it Thursday so id love to put this thing to the test myself but the wait continues.

Its objectively a bad screen, thats why. Honestly i don't get why people are defending the screen. Its one thing to say you acknowledge the problem but are ok with it, but to pretend this isn't an issue is crazy and if you're ok with a $850+ phone with a bad display, then thats cool, enjoy it. I've seen three pixel 2xl's in real life (the one i bought and two others coworkers bought) and the extreme blue shift is identical on all of them, this is just how the screen is. Its worse than my 2 year old 6p screen. Do i love everything else about the phone, yes, is the display a dealer breaker for me, yes, is it for everyone, no; but again that doesnt make the screen ok on a flagship top of the price range phone. I think its embarrassing to the reviewers who were ok with it, they should be universally trashing this display, cause its the worse ive ever seen on a flagship phone.

love how he explained the color issue.

He made a great review! I don't know why everyone is crying so much. This phone is amazing. I've had it for three days now and I might be lucky but I have 0 issues. The colors for me are fine and it's really smooth. I'm extremely happy with my purchase and can't wait for further development for this phone.

I like his reviews as he is seeing the device for what it is and compares it to how he uses it.. Yes his use might be different than ours but at least he is reviewing in the sense of a normal user (or at least for me he does). The whole display thing i feel is being blown way out of proportion. Its like if no one ever mentioned it would you have really noticed it? or would you have gone about your day like it never existed. For cases where it is faulty that is where warranty comes in play. so i'll be getting my phone and going through my works but most likely i will be keeping mine

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Its like if no one ever mentioned it would you have really noticed it?
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Both my wife and several coworkers pointed out the tint immediately, "why is it so blue" without any understanding of the controversy around it. I thought i had a particularly bad one, as the blue tint happens at around a 10% angle, but two other coworkers have gotten theirs and they're identical. I thought i could deal with it, but in normal use i dont look at my phone straight on its almost always at a slight angle, so the top of the phone would be blue tinted and the bottom would look fine, and scrolling with two different color temps is a weird thing, particularly peoples faces.
To be clear, all phones shift a little, my nexus 6p has a slight blue shift then rainbow at nearly flat, and my wifes S8 has a slight red shift then rainbows, but the P2XL shift is in another world, its so extreme and so fast, and actually gets better looking at extreme angles than at slight ones.

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Both my wife and several coworkers pointed out the tint immediately, "why is it so blue" without any understanding of the controversy around it. I thought i had a particularly bad one, as the blue tint happens at around a 10% angle, but two other coworkers have gotten theirs and they're identical. I thought i could deal with it, but in normal use i dont look at my phone straight on its almost always at a slight angle, so the top of the phone would be blue tinted and the bottom would look fine, and scrolling with two different color temps is a weird thing, particularly peoples faces.
To be clear, all phones shift a little, my nexus 6p has a slight blue shift then rainbow at nearly flat, and my wifes S8 has a slight red shift then rainbows, but the P2XL shift is in another world, its so extreme and so fast, and actually gets better looking at extreme angles than at slight ones.
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Thanks for the information. i do believe you on the blue tint being probably that bad. me personally i would have to use it for a week before i can decide if that will really bother me. if other see it i'm eh about it cause it's not their phone. but glad to know you noticed other people have noticed on your phone.

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Its objectively a bad screen, thats why. Honestly i don't get why people are defending the screen. Its one thing to say you acknowledge the problem but are ok with it, but to pretend this isn't an issue is crazy and if you're ok with a $850+ phone with a bad display, then thats cool, enjoy it. I've seen three pixel 2xl's in real life (the one i bought and two others coworkers bought) and the extreme blue shift is identical on all of them, this is just how the screen is. Its worse than my 2 year old 6p screen. Do i love everything else about the phone, yes, is the display a dealer breaker for me, yes, is it for everyone, no; but again that doesnt make the screen ok on a flagship top of the price range phone. I think its embarrassing to the reviewers who were ok with it, they should be universally trashing this display, cause its the worse ive ever seen on a flagship phone.
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Totally agreed with you on this. for such a high price flagship, we shouldn't be able to oversee issues like this. That's the reason I cancelled it. I'll wait a few more weeks or months if things gets better and re-order. For now, I wouldn't lie to my self and say I can live with this.

His comments on the display were interesting and it is odd that the display supports a wider color gamut but isn't using it (as evidenced by Firefox). That said, the images people typically use to compare the display are grossly oversaturated even if they are using a wider gamut. The first comparison picture he uses with the S8 has much more detail in the Pixel version because the S8 is blowing out the colors so much to produce those saturated neon greens. I'd be interested to actually see the Pixel up against another display that is using proper color saturation with a wider gamut.

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I don't know what to think anymore. Some say this phone is a turd. Others, like MKBHD, praise it. Guess I'm glad I didn't cancel my order and I can find out for myself. Mine is on a truck for delivery - three full days ahead of schedule. So that's good. Although I'm not sure why I'm getting my 128gb black version ahead of people who ordered a full day before me, but that's Google's terrible shipping for you.
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I feel like I can live with the screen washout and blue tint at the angle. I'm a little worried about the screen burn in and clucky noises that people are reporting hopefully those are just defects from a really bad batch. I get mine tomorrow so I will definitely be keeping an eye on it. If anything is bad I return it and just get the Pixel XL.

Notable XDA Dev supercurio sheds some light on some of the claims made in Marques' review.
Keep in mind this guy made the software that Erica Griffin used to measure the display. He knows what he's talking about, more than most.
https://plus.google.com/+supercurioFrancoisSimond/posts/8feW5GMgGgt
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Rodeojones said:
I don't know what to think anymore. Some say this phone is a turd. Others, like MKBHD, praise it. Guess I'm glad I didn't cancel my order and I can find out for myself. Mine is on a truck for delivery - three full days ahead of schedule. So that's good. Although I'm not sure why I'm getting my 128gb black version ahead of people who ordered a full day before me, but that's Google's terrible shipping for you.
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Go with your own review, who knows what some reviewers motives are. Hell id praise a phone if it meant they kept sending me free stuff and devices! MKBHD is honest I believe though

The blue tint is when it's at a certain angle. Now that angle may be less than most phones, but I don't know of anyone who reads their phone at an angle. He explains that in the video as well. Like he said if your "that guy/gal' then this phone isn't for you. I think when people bring stuff up that bothers them & make a big deal about it everyone is looking for it. If other reviewers had never said anything this wouldn't be as big of an issue. Just nitpicking now.

It's going back. So sad...

After four days, I'm returning my Pixel 2 XL.
It is a wonderful phone in every respect........except for one.
I just couldn't get past the screen. I had a positive attitude and hopes beyond hopes.
I tried. I really did.
No burn-in issues - that wasn't the problem (yet).
It's the blue. Blue everywhere. At an angle, off center, or looking at photographs - everything just had this blue tinge to it that I couldn't deal with. The grainyness and color fringing in the text was there, too. Not cool.
I love and trust Google and have been a diehard Android fan from the beginning, but I paid over a $1000 for this and I refuse to swallow that expensive pill, knowing these annoyances are there.
Why Google? WHY??...
I'm sure Google might send out a patch to deal with some of this, but in the meantime, I'm going back to my Nexus 6.
It's really a shame. The software experience on this phone is amazing. And the camera...oh, that camera. Simply stunning.
Well, at least I get my headphone jack back....

Maybe try a replacement. I've seen some side by side where one was blue at every turn, and another was only blue at extreme angles. Most OLED screens have this problem to some degree, though Samsung has done a great job of minimizing the effect.
The Pixel 2 XL is by far the smoothest Android phone out there and I hope they deal with the quality control issues.

Guyinlaca said:
Maybe try a replacement. I've seen some side by side where one was blue at every turn, and another was only blue at extreme angles. Most OLED screens have this problem to some degree, though Samsung has done a great job of minimizing the effect.
The Pixel 2 XL is by far the smoothest Android phone out there and I hope they deal with the quality control issues.
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I agree. It was a wonderful Android experience. Smoothest phone I've ever used.
I'm just not in the mood to play "order, return, order return, repeat.." with a $1000 device.
If this were a $400 phone, I might have some patience for that.
I was also having some bluetooth issues, but that could have been the device I was connecting to (car).
All in all, if you can tolerate the screen, it's an amazing phone

I just boxed mine up today to return for a refund as well. I decided that I didn't want to go the RMA process at this stage. It's still too early for Google/LG to tighten up manufacturing quality and it's not worth it for me to pay $912 to maybe get a decent one. I want to see how it is in a few months or possible for holiday sales and re-buy it then but until then.. back to my 6P with its rapidly degrading battery. I should note that I returned mine for multiple reasons including the top selling point of this phone, the camera. I could not get a good pic out of that phone for the life of me and I don't know why. Also, charging was not fast at all. So couple those things with the screen issues (for me it was extreme blue tint, graininess, black smear, and overall terrible white balance/contrast tuning to the point where it was actually uncomfortable to look at the screen without night light on) and it was unfortunately the decision that had to be made. I REALLY liked everything else about the phone and know that the charging and camera must have been a true defect as a factory reset didn't resolve it. So if the screen was up to par for a $900-$1000, I'd have just RMA'd it. So sad.. I really hope Google and LG get their sh*t together on the manufacturing side to fix all the little crap with it and the major glaring issue being the screen. Either tighten up ship with the current OLED display or switch to a samsung panel for better/more consistent manufacturing. I have got to believe someone or many people are getting fired over this fiasco.

bye bro

Another one bites the dust... bummer!

jrg67 said:
I just boxed mine up today to return for a refund as well. I decided that I didn't want to go the RMA process at this stage. It's still too early for Google/LG to tighten up manufacturing quality and it's not worth it for me to pay $912 to maybe get a decent one. I want to see how it is in a few months or possible for holiday sales and re-buy it then but until then.. back to my 6P with its rapidly degrading battery. I should note that I returned mine for multiple reasons including the top selling point of this phone, the camera. I could not get a good pic out of that phone for the life of me and I don't know why. Also, charging was not fast at all. So couple those things with the screen issues (for me it was extreme blue tint, graininess, black smear, and overall terrible white balance/contrast tuning to the point where it was actually uncomfortable to look at the screen without night light on) and it was unfortunately the decision that had to be made. I REALLY liked everything else about the phone and know that the charging and camera must have been a true defect as a factory reset didn't resolve it. So if the screen was up to par for a $900-$1000, I'd have just RMA'd it. So sad.. I really hope Google and LG get their sh*t together on the manufacturing side to fix all the little crap with it and the major glaring issue being the screen. Either tighten up ship with the current OLED display or switch to a samsung panel for better/more consistent manufacturing. I have got to believe someone or many people are getting fired over this fiasco.
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Interesting

Not to talk you back into Pixel 2, but there is the fact that the OLED display is designed to display wide gamut colors and is limited in most apps to simply RGB leaving a dull palette and such.... however, Google has said they will release a fix (Saturated Colors) soon..
https://www.xda-developers.com/google-pixel-2-xl-warranty-color-mode/
Then there is this as well:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/77gm3r/android_oreo_color_gamuts_and_pixel_2_explained/

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Vague.

dethknite said:
Not to talk you back into Pixel 2, but there is the fact that the OLED display is designed to display wide gamut colors and is limited in most apps to simply RGB leaving a dull palette and such.... however, Google has said they will release a fix (Saturated Colors) soon..
https://www.xda-developers.com/google-pixel-2-xl-warranty-color-mode/
Then there is this as well:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/77gm3r/android_oreo_color_gamuts_and_pixel_2_explained/
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Yes, I am very aware of that.
My argument is, for spending a $1000+, I shouldn't have to wait.......... for something like that to correct itself.
This is a competitive market and Google should know better.
Forgetting the lousy color gamut, overall the screen is just not up to par for a device of this caliber.
I don't expect this phone to be absolutely perfect, but this screen is just not in the same class as the rest of the phone.
As I've mentioned, the phone, the build, and the software experience is top-notch. It is such a shame that Google dropped the ball on the screen - y'know,.....the most-important part of the phone.
Perhaps in six months I'll try again. But I refuse to spend this kind of money for a product that is obviously not ready for prime-time.

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Truly hope to be back soon.
After I posted that, I read a few more posts regarding people returning their 2XLs and the responses literally surprised me. There is so much hate towards people expressing their decision to return it over obvious manufacturing issues and not wanting to deal with the RMA process. It's almost like people are personally offended like they were hand assembling the phones themselves and simply cannot understand there being defective devices out there. Not saying you are being that way by saying "bye bro" bc that is way less harsh than I read earlier but damn. This has become sort of comical that the people who are keeping their phones are defending them so vehemently and not believing others who's phones were defective. It's like basically saying we are whining about non issue mythical problems.

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Truly hope to be back soon.
After I posted that, I read a few more posts regarding people returning their 2XLs and the responses literally surprised me. There is so much hate towards people expressing their decision to return it over obvious manufacturing issues and not wanting to deal with the RMA process. It's almost like people are personally offended like they were hand assembling the phones themselves and simply cannot understand there being defective devices out there. Not saying you are being that way by saying "bye bro" bc that is way less harsh than I read earlier but damn. This has become sort of comical that the people who are keeping their phones are defending them so vehemently and not believing others who's phones were defective. It's like basically saying we are whining about non issue mythical problems.
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Yup. People like that in every forum on the internet.

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Vague.
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I haven't received my Pixel 2 XL yet so I'm just taking notes..... Let me know if that's still too vague for you

People that RMA their phone for either a replacement or for a return, do you have to pay for shipping or does Google give you prepaid shipping?

Got my replacement today, I also sent back because of blue. Well my new one is night and day difference. I will post pics when my wife gets home. Can easily see the difference.

i'm doing an RMA myself.. but for other reasons.. but before i divulge too much off the original topic... why is there so much variance between displays?!?! some phones start turning blue at a fairly shallow angle.. and some more at sharp angles.. that's ridiculous how varied it can be. the off-axis shift is certainly worse on my personal one vs the one i looked at before (started 20 degrees instead of 40)
and even though off-axis shift isn't really bothersome to me as much.... the GPS lock was unstable.. great when it works... really bad when not. it feels like when i first had my LG built N5.... GPS problems all over again..
GPS location shooting me over a mile away from where i am? unacceptable!!
a display issue i also did notice was how the display dealt with dark colors and blacks... with significant clipping (aka "black crush").. as well as the lag that causes the "black smear".. it is certainly below average.
with after having troubles with GPS location.. i was done.. support was contacted.. and after troubleshooting with them through various steps... they are going to send a replacement.
now, i am still invested in getting the Pixel 2 XL.. display issues or not... but GPS needs to work and that camera is another reason why i'm still going to give it another go. even looking up my manufacturing date (Oct 19th?!).. i felt it was probably not part of any early batches that might've had worse problems... but goodness... i dunno what they're gonna do... send me a refurb? even newer built? i'll see in a few days..
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lensgrabber said:
People that RMA their phone for either a replacement or for a return, do you have to pay for shipping or does Google give you prepaid shipping?
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They pay.. Google support emails you the shipping label and paperwork for your package.

more power to you. if you can wait until it goes on sale to buy it again and the kinks are worked out. that's awesome. i on the other hand couldn't wait. but i'm in the third batch. shipping "today" "no movement" lol. so we will see what they have done.

My personal phone is a Pixel 2 XL and work phone is a Samsung S8+ funny thing is off angle they BOTH have a blue tint to them. No doubt it is more pronounced on my pixel 2 xl but it's not detectable looking at either phone and about 5 degree rotation left or right. Using both phone's I never see the tint 99%+ of the time. I guess it's being reported there is a random element in the degree of blue you get when at an angle but really mine isn't that much worse than my S8+ to a point where its not something that even occurs to me unless I am perusing a forum like this etc..

My pixel XL is going right back... In my pocket because it's ****ing dope

SquallLHeart said:
i'm doing an RMA myself.. but for other reasons.. but before i divulge too much off the original topic... why is there so much variance between displays?!?! some phones start turning blue at a fairly shallow angle.. and some more at sharp angles.. that's ridiculous how varied it can be. the off-axis shift is certainly worse on my personal one vs the one i looked at before (started 20 degrees instead of 40)
and even though off-axis shift isn't really bothersome to me as much.... the GPS lock was unstable.. great when it works... really bad when not. it feels like when i first had my LG built N5.... GPS problems all over again..
GPS location shooting me over a mile away from where i am? unacceptable!!
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Can't speak to the GPS issues. I had some Bluetooth issues, but like I said, it may not have been the phone.
As far as the display - it wasn't "bad" per se - I've seen worse. My complaint was it isn't good enough - especially on a $1000 device.
To reinforce my point, if you put my Pixel 2 XL side-by-side against my 3-year old+ Nexus 6, the difference is mind-blowing. Motorola hit it out of the ballpark with this display. That was what really did it for me.
And for the record, my Nexus 6 also has an OLED screen. Still no burn-in that I can see and that sucker is on, all the time.