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http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/30/canadian-carriers-put-galaxy-s-iii-launch-on-june-20th/
Processor:
Snapdragon S4 Dual Core 1.5 GHz
Qualcomm MSM8960 Chipset
OS (Shipping): ICS 4.0.4
Data: LTE (SGH-i747 variation) and HSPA+ 42 (SGH-iT999 variation)
Memory: 2 GB RAM
I feel happy selling my international sgs3 for 750, 50 more than i paid for now on craigslist lol
Pretty sure that's Canada only.
I could be wrong though, so don't take it to the bank.
Don't bait the trolls.
Everything I've read seems to point to the US S3 variant closely mirroring the Canadian & also launching around June 20th for some carriers.
Update: Samsung's own release has swung our way, and it's providing a slew of details that should closely relate to the US launch. As expected, that's a Snapdragon S4 inside, although we now know that the 2GB of RAM of the NTT DoCoMo version will at least be making its way to Canada as well. The LTE version for Bell, Rogers, Telus and a handful of regional carriers is known as the SGH-i747, while the fabled SGH-T999 stops at 42Mbps HSPA+ and is the edition that Mobilicity, Wind and Videotron will get, since it supports 1,700MHz 3G. There's no mention of a 64GB Canadian Galaxy S III, so you'll still have to import if you frown heavily upon microSD cards.
The Japanese version is said to have 2gb of ram and thats a CDMA version.
I dont know, I think its very possible Samsung is putting 2gb of ram in US and Canada Versions to make up for the dual core only.
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Pretty sure that's Canada only.
I could be wrong though, so don't take it to the bank.
Don't bait the trolls.
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sgh-i747 is model for AT&T, so pretty certain it will apply for at&t version at least.
i hope they keep the button layout. i loved the international sgs3 button layout.
So what's faster or better (battery life and other aspects) - Quad-core with 1GB RAM or Dual-Core with 2GB RAM?
Not sure which to order (I'm from USA).
posted this in the Canadian thread http://www.unwiredview.com/2012/05/18/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-for-att-sgh-i747-and-t-mobile-sgh-t999-confirmed/
SGH-I747 should be for AT$T and SGH-T999 for T-Mobile US
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is350 said:
So what's faster or better (battery life and other aspects) - Quad-core with 1GB RAM or Dual-Core with 2GB RAM?
Not sure which to order (I'm from USA).
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i can tell you now that battery life will be superior with the dual-core S4. i don't think you'll be able to tell in every day situations which one is faster. i'll take the S4 and LTE personally.
I'll most likely keep my Int. version and see how the data/processor speeds are before I consider jumping on a contract extension and get the US LTE version. I am a fan of the HOME button, which I'm fairly sure will dissapear on AT&T's version. Also not a fan of the bloatware AT&T loads up their phones with that may uneccessarily hamper battery/RAM.
Will the S4 variant have as much dev support as the international? I sure hope so.
Except for high end gaming, S4 will perform just as well as Exynos in everyday use and have longer battery life.
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I'll most likely keep my Int. version and see how the data/processor speeds are before I consider jumping on a contract extension and get the US LTE version. I am a fan of the HOME button, which I'm fairly sure will dissapear on AT&T's version.
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i'll import from canada. S4 is a champ up against the quad Exynos. both have their plus' and minus'. having longer battery life and LTE are a little more important to me than bragging rights
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ECrispy said:
Will the S4 variant have as much dev support as the international? I sure hope so.
Except for high end gaming, S4 will perform just as well as Exynos in everyday use and have longer battery life.
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depends... Canadian versions, yep. AT$T may lock theirs down like they did the HOX. Rogers kids could unlock via htcdev. AT$T users had to spoof the cid. so, depends on carriers.
MoJoePin said:
I'll most likely keep my Int. version and see how the data/processor speeds are before I consider jumping on a contract extension and get the US LTE version. I am a fan of the HOME button, which I'm fairly sure will dissapear on AT&T's version.
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well, since canada and at&t models have been similar (cept for s2) i hope they keep that button config.
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Will the S4 variant have as much dev support as the international? I sure hope so.
Except for high end gaming, S4 will perform just as well as Exynos in everyday use and have longer battery life.
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I doubt the carrier specific versions will receive the same level of dev attention as the international version. Don't get me wrong, there will boat loads of roms but it will be segmented between carriers.
There will always be porting issues between versions.
The international version is global. Also compounded with the fact it probably the most hyped/sought after Android phone so far.
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i'll import from canada. S4 is a champ up against the quad Exynos. both have their plus' and minus'. having longer battery life and LTE are a little more important to me than bragging rights
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I'm just too impatient . But I also added I'm not crazzy about the AT&T bloatware, I loathed it on my LTE Note (I know, I know, root & remove)
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depends... Canadian versions, yep. AT$T may lock theirs down like they did the HOX. Rogers kids could unlock via htcdev. AT$T users had to spoof the cid. so, depends on carriers.
It's unlikely that AT&T will lock the bootloaders on the SIII like they did on HOX. since all previous galaxy s phones did not have locked bootloaders. But this news is great, I can't wait to see comparison videos of the two variants
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The Japanese version is said to have 2gb of ram and thats a CDMA version.
I dont know, I think its very possible Samsung is putting 2gb of ram in US and Canada Versions to make up for the dual core only.
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The 2gb is not to just make up for the dual core but thw lack of dedicated video ram for the Adreno. Example, it sucks up about 400mb on the HOX.
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is350 said:
So what's faster or better (battery life and other aspects) - Quad-core with 1GB RAM or Dual-Core with 2GB RAM?
Not sure which to order (I'm from USA).
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Definitely Dual-Core with 2GB RAM. I will be waiting a bit more too.
The bottleneck of all phones today is the memory not the CPU.
Yea the current int. sgs3 has 780mb total available memory, and uses 469mb ram after factory reset. i can't wait to see how much more the better us variant will have!
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The 2gb is not to just make up for the dual core but thw lack of dedicated video ram for the Adreno. Example, it sucks up about 400mb on the HOX.
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How did this speculation become a fact now? Stop making up stories and repeating it over and over without any evidence whatsoever. The one s with the non lte s4 has 680mb free ram compared to 600mb on the one xl . The evo 3d with it's last generation s3 snapdragon has 800mb. Does that mean they have dedicated memory. Of course not.
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The Japanese version is said to have 2gb of ram and thats a CDMA version.
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No its not, its LTE on Band I with WCDMA fallback on bands I/VI.
See http://www.nttdocomo.co.jp/product/next/sc06d/index.html
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Pretty sure that's Canada only.
I could be wrong though, so don't take it to the bank.
Don't bait the trolls.
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+1. Our Canadian SGS models had 16 Gb of memory, you yanks only got 8 GB So anything is possible.
I am more interested in if I can flash a 1700 modem to change the band when I want...
Hi all,
I love the looks of the S3 but in the UK we have been given the short straw and they only come with 1Gb of RAM.
I want one with 2Gb of RAM and so I'm wondering if anyone knows which countries sell 2Gb models that are compatible with UK standards etc?
Thanks
Searching would help but Korea is the only quad 2 gig ram I know of and not sure of anything else but there is a thread on this topic
Edit us and Canada are 2 gig ram but dual core but assume carrier locked ?
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The Korean version does indeed seem to "have it all".
I dont know enough about phone spectrums etc to know if it would be fully compatible with the UK networks?
Also, anyone have any idea where you could buy one from?
I do not think it will from what I'm reading
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Theoretically, the korean one would work here but only on wcdma 2100 band i think...
Its very questionable how much success you would have with it as i believe it is incompatible with all 2g networks in the uk.
What i would say though is that having used the 1gb uk model for a week and a half, i dont see there being any real benefit to having 2gb of ram. Even on the stock rom (which is massive and heavy going) with everything running and power useage i havent come close to anything more than 650mb ram used at once.
My advice would be that it probably isnt worth the hassle, risk of it not working, or expense importing a 2gb model at all.
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I've had no issues with 1gig ram. The phone can show high ram usage but haven't ever notices it effect performance.
When running some big processes / apps the phone kills background tasks to free up ram. I know it does because when I back out and check ram usage it is usually much lower than normal.
On the S2 when I'd connect it to HDMI, after removing ram usage would be around 200. Much less than the usual 400-500.
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you really dont need more than 1gb .. RAM is there to be used and functions and does its job better when you are using as much as the RAM as possible .... off topic them RAM cleaners should be taken off all markets
Does anyone have any official information on this Korean Quad Core 2GB? I remember the source being a rumor mill, and then they switched the rumor mill to saying parts of Korea would have both the S4 or Exynos. What's the truth?
Korean Rumor
It is unlikely the korean market has the quad core with 2gb ram.
The only distinction right now between 1gb and 2gb has to do with the CPU.
If you look at the ifixit teardown of the phone (can't post links yet sorry), you can see that the RAM is directly incorporated on the board with the CPU. Does that mean it's possible for them to do a separate production line and get a Exynos 4412 (quad core) with 2GB of ram? Absolutely. Does it make sense from a business standpoint? Not at all. If they did run a completely separate manufacturing process on the boards for a quad core with 2gb of ram, it would be silly due to the return on investment to only release it in one market.
So if you see a GS3 with 2GB of ram, it mostlikely has the snapdragon dual core chip, not a quad core. As it's been stated earlier, the most probably culprit to the rumor is that Koreans would have the possibility of getting either model in their market (which you can in the US as well, if you don't buy it directly from the carriers).
Reason why the us versions even has 2 gigs is the processor. Snapdragon with lte requires more ram in normal use and in a situation where 1 gig isn't enough they have to bump it to 2 as phone only has one memory moudule and memory sizes goes 512Mb 1gb 2gb 4gb and so on..
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It is unlikely the korean market has the quad core with 2gb ram.
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So if you see a GS3 with 2GB of ram, it mostlikely has the snapdragon dual core chip, not a quad core. As it's been stated earlier, the most probably culprit to the rumor is that Koreans would have the possibility of getting either model in their market (which you can in the US as well, if you don't buy it directly from the carriers).
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You should catch up on news before posting something like this. Samsung has confirmed that the korean market will soon be getting a sgs3 with quadcore exynos, 2GB of RAM and LTE (and a part number of SHV-E210S.) One of the points of the release was to explain that the LTE modem would be a seperate chip and that this variant of the phone would be slightly thicker (by 1/2mm) than the other sgs3's.
Take care
Gary
Yeah, thats the exact details I read and from the full paged details it seems like it is going to support nearly all networks out there:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sams...ersion-with-2GB-of-RAM-only-for-Korea_id31033
Whats the obsession with RAM? We don't need any more. The Korean exynos is pointless IMHO.
RAM is used to keep system and user files or applications and services that are regularly used close at hand for quick access.
Unused RAM is useless RAM. with 2GB to be used effectively, it's going to have to be caching apps you haven't used since last Thursday. What's the point in that? I sincerely doubt the device with 2gb will feel faster as a result.
Increasing RAM doesn't increase speed. In decreases slow down ... in systems that don't have enough. Yet we do..
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The US At&t version will work in the UK once unlocked.
rootSU said:
Whats the obsession with RAM? We don't need any more. The Korean exynos is pointless IMHO.
RAM is used to keep system and user files or applications and services that are regularly used close at hand for quick access.
Unused RAM is useless RAM. with 2GB to be used effectively, it's going to have to be caching apps you haven't used since last Thursday. What's the point in that? I sincerely doubt the device with 2gb will feel faster as a result.
Increasing RAM doesn't increase speed. In decreases slow down ... in systems that don't have enough. Yet we do..
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Future proofing I suppose. After the phone stops receiving updates, it would still be possible to put some of the latest software on it that will be more resource-demanding via third party developers. The duel core Krait and the quad core Exynos really don't show any difference in real world usage. Those that it does can be quite negligible.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XmfQZoYqbY&list=UUO_vmeInQm5Z6dEZ6R5Kk0A&index=10&feature=plcp
adz63 said:
you really dont need more than 1gb .. RAM is there to be used and functions and does its job better when you are using as much as the RAM as possible .... off topic them RAM cleaners should be taken off all markets
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I remember people saying this about quad core when the s2 came out.
Hi what type of sgs3 do i have? I bought my Samsung galaxy s3 (GT-i9300) at Siba AB in Sweden and now since the forum is changed i don't have a clue any more... My device is rooted and running ParanoidAndroid 1.5, does it even matters what type i have?
AT&T Galaxy S III
Sprint Galaxy S III
T-Mobile Galaxy S III
Verizon Galaxy S III
My guess is that this is some type of carrier locks?
Whats the differences?
Sorry for being a noob when it comes to this, and sorry for my bad English.
none of the above you have the i9300 international which has a different forum
You most likely have the international version which has its own section. These are all American carrier locked galaxy s3s.
As for the difference..international has exynos quad core processor and 1 gig ram whereas American and Canadian versions have dual core and 2 gig of ram. One version of the galaxy s3 in America(Verizon) is also boot loader locked.
Scroll down a bit further and you will see the Samsung Galaxy S III I9300 forum.
Thanks
Halmo said:
Scroll down a bit further and you will see the Samsung Galaxy S III I9300 forum.
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Thanks, saw that now ^^
Moderator may now please remove this tread.
I think this deserves a topic.
According to T-Mo news, a user agent string leaked, possibly indicating that a T-Mobile version of the Note II is on it's way. The model number is SGH-T889, which would make it ten digits higher than the original Note, SGH-T879. The phone is also packing a 1280×720 resolution, and running Android 4.1.
Also, on the T-Mobile S III board here on XDA, another user noted that a minor update to the SGH-T889 is already available on Samsung-Updates website, which means the Note II could be close to launching soon. I'm guessing we'll hear more in the coming weeks.
Third Strike said:
I think this deserves a topic.
According to T-Mo news, a user agent string leaked, possibly indicating that a T-Mobile version of the Note II is on it's way. The model number is SGH-T889, which would make it ten digits higher than the original Note, SGH-T879. The phone is also packing a 1280×720 resolution, and running Android 4.1.
Also, on the T-Mobile S III board here on XDA, another user noted that a minor update to the SGH-T889 is already available on Samsung-Updates website, which means the Note II could be close to launching soon. I'm guessing we'll hear more in the coming weeks.
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Yes I am very excited for T-Mobile version, since the deal with AT&T was cancelled, Tmobile is definitely stepping up with their lines of smart phone The biggest news and rumor would be that Tmo version (I dont know about other carriers) will still carry Exonys quad core! unlike the galaxy s3 where they downgraded the CPU. Now thats very exciting news when any ETA for the galaxy note 2 for TMO? I heard lastest November but I hope they release them in October.
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Yes I am very excited for T-Mobile version, since the deal with AT&T was cancelled, Tmobile is definitely stepping up with their lines of smart phone The biggest news and rumor would be that Tmo version (I dont know about other carriers) will still carry Exonys quad core! unlike the galaxy s3 where they downgraded the CPU. Now thats very exciting news when any ETA for the galaxy note 2 for TMO? I heard lastest November but I hope they release them in October.
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Maybe a little research would tell me this but didn't they switch it in the gs3 so that the gs3 could handle 42 mbps network?
Or was that only for the gs2?
Wouldn't the cpu seeing as its same as the gs3 international one exynos still not be compatible with T-Mobile 42 mbps?
I apologize beforehand if CPUs are actually different.
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Yes TMO is confirmed to have the Note2
TMobile will/ is supposed to be converted in ALL of the USA to 1900/2100 banding by 1/1/13 (4 Months) (LTE)
I confirmed that the TMO is a Quad core 2 gig ram w/ 16gig int sd +ext sd.......:fingers-crossed:
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To answer a couple of the comments
Yes TMO is confirmed to have the Note2
TMobile will/ is supposed to be converted in ALL of the USA to 1900/2100 banding by 1/1/13 (4 Months) (LTE)
I confirmed that the TMO is a Quad core 2 gig ram w/ 16gig int sd +ext sd.......:fingers-crossed:
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Do you have a possible release for the Note II, on T-Mobile? Also, assuming you have inside info, do you know if Charlotte will get LTE/1900MHz before next year?
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TMobile will/ is supposed to be converted in ALL of the USA to 1900/2100 banding by 1/1/13 (4 Months) (LTE)
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So that means I could get the International as soon as they come out, pop in my Tmo sim and in 4 months I would have LTE? Until then it would be Edge?
Any idea if it will be a mini or micro sim?
Micro
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I'll definitely be selling my s3.. I want this baby so bad..
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Can any of you smart fellas offer an educated guess on what the new line sale price will be? We (my company) will be switching to T-Mobile at the end of this week. I can buy the S3 for $125. I mentioned that I was interested in the Note 2 as well and the rep is offering to let me purchase the Note 2 at the subsidized price when it arrives. He will be getting me a "loaner" for now, if I go that route.
Just trying to weigh out the difference. I have a fairly large phone-nerd streak in me but if I am looking at an additional $250, I may have to scratch my head a bit on the decision. The S3 looks pretty sweet.
Any advice is welcome.
Thanks guys!
(Currently on the S2 on Sprint)
Is there any possiblity that the Note II could come with both HSPA+ and LTE for T-Mobile? It would be nice if it would be able to use LTE after the first of the year when TMO starts it up.
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So that means I could get the International as soon as they come out, pop in my Tmo sim and in 4 months I would have LTE? Until then it would be Edge?
Any idea if it will be a mini or micro sim?
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I know this thread has been asleep for a while, but with all the crazyness happening with HSPA+, LTE, etc. for Tmo, If it is possible to get the INT version of the n7100 and get LTE in 4-14 months, that makes an investment in the Note 2 a very wise choice....something I like to do.
But something does bother me. Although I haven't confirmed this, but I read somewhere that tmo HSPA+ is not available for the Note 2. Which seems kinda weird.
Can anyone clarify this?
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I know this thread has been asleep for a while, but with all the crazyness happening with HSPA+, LTE, etc. for Tmo, If it is possible to get the INT version of the n7100 and get LTE in 4-14 months, that makes an investment in the Note 2 a very wise choice....something I like to do.
But something does bother me. Although I haven't confirmed this, but I read somewhere that tmo HSPA+ is not available for the Note 2. Which seems kinda weird.
Can anyone clarify this?
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The N7100 is the international version and if you buy that for Tmobile, you won't get HSPA+ or LTE as it only has HSPA+ (for AT&T, but if T-Mobile is refarming the 1900MHz band in your area, you'll actually get HSPA+) and no LTE bands.
The T-Mobile version, coming out later this month, will support both the current HSPA+ (On T-Mobile on the 1700mhz AWS spectrum) and the LTE bands that T-Mobile plans to use for their LTE rollout.
In short, wait for the T-Mobile one, and get it.
I believe that the AT&T and T-Mobile Note II will be essentially identical. I believe that since Samsung is using the Exynos in the US versions that they're using the same Qualcomm modem in both, so on AT&T it can take advantage of LTE and on T-Mo it will allow the HSPA 42+, and then it will be able to use LTE once it starts rolling out.
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Yes I am very excited for T-Mobile version, since the deal with AT&T was cancelled, Tmobile is definitely stepping up with their lines of smart phone The biggest news and rumor would be that Tmo version (I dont know about other carriers) will still carry Exonys quad core! unlike the galaxy s3 where they downgraded the CPU. Now thats very exciting news when any ETA for the galaxy note 2 for TMO? I heard lastest November but I hope they release them in October.
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They didn't downgrade the CPU in the US Version of the GS3. The international version does have the Exonys Quad core but its the last(older) generation of that chip. The US version came with a duel core S4 chip with 2 gigs ram... which if you actually ran tests, it runs crazy fast and even faster than then Quad core Exonys. This Galaxy Note 2 has the same Exonys Quad core(older version) as the int GS3 and also 2 gigs of ram which make it crazy quick.
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They didn't downgrade the CPU in the US Version of the GS3. The international version does have the Exonys Quad core but its the last(older) generation of that chip. The US version came with a duel core S4 chip with 2 gigs ram... which if you actually ran tests, it runs crazy fast and even faster than then Quad core Exonys. This Galaxy Note 2 has the same Exonys Quad core(older version) as the int GS3 and also 2 gigs of ram which make it crazy quick.
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What actually makes it quick is the architecture of the S4 chip itself which uses 28 nm transistors for less heat and power consumption as well as the fact that it's based off both the A9 and A15 ARM reference chips whereas the Exynos is A9 based only, so you also get the benefits of the better architecture. However, the Exynos 5 (A15 based) look to wipe the floor with anything on the market currently.
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I believe that the AT&T and T-Mobile Note II will be essentially identical. I believe that since Samsung is using the Exynos in the US versions that they're using the same Qualcomm modem in both, so on AT&T it can take advantage of LTE and on T-Mo it will allow the HSPA 42+, and then it will be able to use LTE once it starts rolling out.
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Well, the modems/radios are pretty much band-agnostic, meaning you could probably re-program it to work with any GSM carrier around the world (as long as the chip supports it). That's why the ATT OG Galaxy Note could be reprogrammed to be used on T-Mobile
Is Samsung developing a new Galaxy Note II variant for China with a Snapdragon 600 chipset underneath, instead of the company’s very own Exynos chip? A leaked AnTuTu benchmark for a GT-N7108D, running on a 1.9GHz processor and Android 4.2.2 Jelly Bean, suggests that might be the case.
With a score of 26901 points, this new variant would be even faster than the Galaxy S4, which currently reigns supreme in possibly every benchmark test out there. This new variant of the Note II is apparently headed to China Mobile with support for their TD-LTE network, which explains why Samsung is suddenly working on a Snapdragon variant of the device (Qualcomm’s chips come with an integrated LTE modem, which offers better battery life and efficiency), almost a year after the original Note II was launched.
This Snapdragon-powered Galaxy Note II has also appeared at the FCC, with the filing confirming support for the Wi-Fi 802.11ac 5GHz standard, which is currently only supported on 2013 flagships like the Galaxy S4 and the HTC One (and is expected to be the next big thing when it comes to Wi-Fi speeds.) So, while it is possible the benchmark might be a fake, the fact that a newer Galaxy Note II variant is in the works is all but confirmed.
However, the question remains: why is Samsung working on a new variant of their second-generation phablet when its successor will be making its way to the market before the end of this year, with even better specs across the board? I guess we’ll have to wait for further info to get an answer to that, though we won’t be expecting to see this faster and more powerful Galaxy Note II launch outside China
Source with pictures: www.sammobile.com/2013/07/22/snapdragon-600-galaxy-note-ii-showed-up/
Oh I just saw that there is already a topic about this. Sorry.