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The Battle of the ROMs

With the surge of some ROMs for our devices, and though they're related between each other to a certain degree (save for CM7), the inevitable question surges: which one has the upper hand? The stock ROM is vastly improved since 1.06 and Ganjaman's add-ons make it more mature, the MoDaCo ROM has the advantage of having been the first modded ROM, CyanogenMod7, thanks to Apache14's work, has made a stellar appearance and we actually get the official updates (such as the ones that mad-murdock presented us yesterday), Corvus has been updating his new ROM quite rapidly and it works nicely, like Fuji-Vega does... We're lucky that we're not in want of possible choices! But which is yours?

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For me corvus. It's so quick and stable, and is the only one, where's my usb 3g huawei running. Did I told you, that it's really fast?
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I agree totally, corvus is so quick. I can't wait until it can be combined with mad murdoch's HC tweaks, the vega will be Ninja then!

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@logseman
great idea for a thread. I'm considering starting a thread on a similar line, thought id check in and avoid toe treading and see if there is a need for it.
As a newb to vega android modding, its great that there is such a wealth of info and advice, but sometimes its not clear or comprehensive (at least in one place! )
I'd like to run a "what vega setup is best for me" thread. The aim being to allow users to show exactly what setup they are running, how it performs, pro's and cons, bugs etc.
By using a standard template, we can see what works and why. We can make direct comparisons between setups without searching through threads for hours.
Users can then copy setups and try if they think they like it. Might also provide devs useful concise feedback to help them progress roms / kernels etc.
If it already exists, feel free to point me in the right direction whilst mocking my newbe stupidity, but ive read and re read the main threads and can't see it.
If you're reading this and think it would be useful, let me know, with suggestions and i'll get the ball rolling.
I.A.O.
Edit: if you want to help or collaborate, pm me.

I'm not sure how setting up a "standard configuration" would be of benefit. Primarily because of two issues: first, the same custom ROM can have dramatic performance differences between one device and the other (I am a ROM tester for Galaxy S, people claim battery lives of 4 days which I've never heard about); and second, the point of Android is that it actually doesn't force any standardisation as of now: I don't see why users would tend to a certain set up which has been done by another person instead of experimenting themselves.
Don't take me wrong, I appreciate that you take interest in this thread, but I fail to see the point of your suggestion. Android has no predefined "set-ups" as far as I know.

Yeah, i get your point. For me too its all about modding and tweaking. But i also got the impression that some people just want to get there device configured in a way that works for them quickly.
Im certainly Not saying lets all set up the same, if we wanted that we'd just bite the apple right!
I just think it would be useful to see at a glance what is working for people. I.e - "i need a rom with no lag on my vega - ah looks like cm7 ttrc2 has lag issues", without having to read 178 pages to find out.
I guess it would be more like an "at a glance" guide to roms for each device.

I used Modaco since i got my Mobii/Vega, but yesterday i flashed clockwork recovery and started using Titanium backup for real, so now i am testing some ROMs and sofar i like fuji-vega the most, fast and smooth, only some lag in appmenu when i have the device rooted.

I spent a long time using mcr8 eventually with buzz kernel but I then got bored and tried cm7 which I loved but just could not stand all the lag when scrolling etc.
I am now using corvus which seems to work well for me. I hope to switch back to cm7 when it improves a bit.

I love CM7 on my phone and would love it on the Vega, but the wifi troubles it has at this moment on the Vega made me switch to first Modaco and than Corvus. The only bad thing I can say about Corvus is that I personally would prefer Gingerbread green icons aboive the blue ones in Corvus

Slipurson said:
I used Modaco since i got my Mobii/Vega, but yesterday i flashed clockwork recovery and started using Titanium backup for real, so now i am testing some ROMs and sofar i like fuji-vega the most, fast and smooth, only some lag in appmenu when i have the device rooted.
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I am in a similar position to you. I have only installed Modaco R8 and not really used Titanium Backup nor Clockwork Recovery. I find R8 lags after extended use (requiring a reboot) so I am interesting in changing to Corvus. I have a few questions.
What is the best way to move from Modaco to Corvus?
Can I use Clockwork Recovery/Titanium to ease the pain of transition?
How do I install CWR?
Is it best to go back to stock and then install Corvus? If so, will I lose all of my customisations?
Thanks in anticipation of a response.

What is the best way to move from Modaco to Corvus?
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I would do a Ti Backup of everything, then a nandroid backup before flashing.
Can I use Clockwork Recovery/Titanium to ease the pain of transition?
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Definitely use both of these, pay for Ti Backup to enable auto batch stuff
How do I install CWR?
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Try THIS thread
Is it best to go back to stock and then install Corvus? If so, will I lose all of my customisations?
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You would want to wipe when doing an install of a different rom anyway, so you will lose settings, most will be restored by Ti Backup though.

> I would do a Ti Backup of everything, then a nandroid backup before flashing.
Sorry, how do I do that? I have Modaco R8 with Titanium Backup installed. How do I use Ti to "backup everything", what is a "nandroid backup", and how do I restore stuff after installing a new ROM?
Cheers.

you can find this information quite easily by searching
ti backup press menu>batch>backup all user apps and system data
Then after installing cwm (download zip open
cd /path/to/folder
./install.sh for mac and linux (make sure to downlod my fixed scripts second post)
or
click install.bat for windows
then click recovery app use volume buttons and power to select backup and restore)
wipe data instal rom
ti backup from market
menu>batch>restore all user apps and system data (modaco is similar to corvus so should be safe to restore everything if things start crashing repeat install and untick all apps that are already installed in ti backup)
there you go you have transitioned
sorry if this sounds patronising it sounded like you were a noob so i included great detail
p.s. this will all become second nature after a while

hmmm atm i'm using CM7, and after switching to launcher pro it's so fast !!
adw launcher is such a crappy launcher (sry, my opinion)
anyways, my flash is pretty laggy due to the unstable nightly builds, I mean they're not in the fully power.. but I will wait, <3 cyanogem
I wish we had the HC update soon, rly =(

Ive been using Fuji-Vega since april and applying updates when they become available.
Really happy with it and cant complain. Does what i need it to do.
Very quick to use.

Corvus5 for me right now. it's stable and fast as, with oc I have been using cm7 until a few days ago and will no doubt give the latest a shot before the weekends gone, it now has oc kernel

I can't use custom ROMs because nor CM neither Corvus doesn't let my Huawei e150 connect to internet. When I'll solve this problem CM'll my choice.

CM7 for me. I've tried a few but CM7 just feels/looks slicker.

Will there ever be a fully working honeycomb rom?
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[ROM][B158][Clean ROM][Froyo 2.2.1][Overclocked+rooted]

Hi everybody,
I made a bloatware-free stock Froyo ROM based on B158 which includes overclocked kernel from hiapk-forums.
It's rooted. Nothing special at all but may be useful for ppl who just got their new phone delivered. This ROM will wipe your /cust_data + /data +/system. So use at your own risk and backup important data first (NANDROID).
Everything works as expected.
Credits: stockwell, Huawei, GoAPK, Koush, CM-Team and anyone else whom I forgot.
Download + detailed Instructions

Will probably buy the phone tomorrow just to fool around with it, really appreciated what you did there!
On a side question: the bootloader is not locked on this device or is it?

how much OC?

pb_1996 said:
how much OC?
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the oc kernel from hiapk is at 1056MHz max..

i m gonna try this

so far working good , waiting for something like CM6 or 7

not so good sorry to say..
ibnefahim said:
so far working good , waiting for something like CM6 or 7
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Me too, hopefully we will see CM7 in the near future..
OK so its in Chinese with no setup, and no Market, so this is a good start but not a complete rom at all. I will go back to the 135 build untill one that comes out that actually is complete and not just one page of apps. Very Very important for me to have Market etc etc..
M..

Works great after changing language and installing happened from cwm. Thanks
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mattbee said:
OK so its in Chinese with no setup, and no Market, so this is a good start but not a complete rom at all. I will go back to the 135 build untill one that comes out that actually is complete and not just one page of apps. Very Very important for me to have Market etc etc..
M..
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I just flashed this rom, and tho it did start with chinese characters somehow it changed to english...dunno how that happened as another poster said he installed a language pack, but mine did so automatically.
as far as the market etc is concerned you need to download the gapps zip using the link the original poster provided. It is an older version of the market and i'm not too sure how to update it...being fairly new to the smartphone scene would anyone care to share???
thanks dibb

you will have to install GAPPS from CyanogenMod Wiki as stated in the original thread (see link on 1st post). Afterwards most GAPPS will update themselves once you are online or use market

getting force close android.process.acore
what i think i did
full wipe
flashed the b158
booted phone and turned off mobile data and set up wifi
booted back into recovery
mounted /system
installed gapps.zip
booted back into phone
signed into google
restored titanium backup
all was good for about 5 mins then constant force closes so bad it was a mission to power off. I full wiped again and reflashed but it happened again??? So for round 3 i am not gonna use titanium but manually download all my apps again and see what happens.
can anyone suggest where the problem may be??

Doubt
Hi everyone, i'm wonder if with this room my Huawei will be unlocked, because my phone it's unavailable for use it with other company, and i don't know how to unlock it. Your room seems pretty good, congrats!!

New to root and overwhelmed with choices-please help

I finally decided to root my g2 but I'm quickly becoming overwhelmed with all the possible choices and information. This is what I'm looking for and hopefully somebody can tell me the simplest way to achieve it.
I want good gps and working Google talking navigation.
I need working wifi calling.
I want to safely over clock.
I am not overly concerned with appearance, i just want something that works well with no bugs. I've been using cm7 nightly on my nook color and I'm happy with it, but does cm play nice with gps now? I've read several threads about other roms and that's why I'm stuck. I really don't want to have to experiment with a dozen different setups. Thank you ahead of time!

Most ROMs in the dev section provide all 3 of those. Any custom ROM allows overclocking, nearly all provide WiFi calling (or you can add it later), and gapps provides your navigation/gps functionality.
You can read before installing whether or not there are known bugs (some AOSP ROMs have GPS issues), and then troubleshoot afterwards if you have issues.
Just be sure to back up with ROM manager before you flash, and you can always go back to the previous setup if you're unhappy with the way your chosen ROM performs for you.

I'd recommend the ROM in my signature to meet all of the needs you mentioned. It's fast, reliable, and has incredible support... essentially it's a moderately modded version of CM7.
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Be sure to follow the wiki for rooting its flawless.
As for rom choice I always, always end up back on CM7. Nothing beats its out of the box functionality and stability.
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I've used Virtuos Sense 2.0.0 and now I'm on InsertCoin Sense 2.1+3.0. Both are great and should fit your needs.
Basically, once you root your phone changing ROMs is easy so you can try different ones and see which you like best.

Thanks for the replies so far. If I get anything wrong or mistaken, please jump in and correct me:
From what I've read, I don't think I'd like any of the Miui-types, they seem more iPhone like than android and I really don't like the iphone.
CM7 is cm7, so it'd be the same on my G2 as my nook color, right? My NC has a built in overclock, I didn't have to add anything extra, is CM7 for the G2 the same?
I've read many threads about how good Virtuous is, but seems like just as many people say it's too resource intensive and slow. Comparing it to the stock Tmo 2.2 or 2.3, is it at least as good? Seems pointless to develop something if it's slower than stock. Is the Insertcoin just a variation of virtuous?
I'm intrigued by Dit's recommended rom, that may be my first choice to try.
I guess I'm really looking for a 1 stop shop, it took me a little while to get the market working on my NC. Do any of the mentioned rom's have everything from the start, or do I still need to add pieces (like gapps, or wifi calling) after installing the rom?
The other rom that has my interest is meXdroidMod, any opinions on it?

I've read many threads about how good Virtuous is, but seems like just as many people say it's too resource intensive and slow. Comparing it to the stock Tmo 2.2 or 2.3, is it at least as good? Seems pointless to develop something if it's slower than stock. Is the Insertcoin just a variation of virtuous?
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Virtuos Sense 2.0.0 is Sense 2.1, so it's not slower than stock (in fact it's faster, thanks to optimizations and Virtuos OC Daemon) and doesn't have any weird issues.
InsertCoin is developed by a different team and uses a different kernel (rmk), so I wouldn't call it a variation. It's also different in that it combines elements from Sense 2.1 and 3.0, while Virtuos ROMs are either full 2.1 or full 3.0.

i guess we all missed the main point here and is how to root lol heres the best guide for rooting your G2/Desire Z:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wik...sion#Rooting_the_Vision_.28G2.2FDZ.29_and_DHD
about the ROMs if you like CM7 go ahead and try it for, its the same as the one you have on your nook, and yes you can overclock without adding anything
about gps on cm7 most people have had trouble with it, but you just need to try cause i really never had any problems

Yea wipe efs before flashing, it will eliminate a lot of common issues with gps and such. Superwipe + will wipe everything well. Don't forget to flash recovery and do a nandroid backup! Also to make the transition easier backup with titanium backup pro. I use virtuous glite btw it looks stock except with light overclock and it is solid. Virtouos basically took the stock rom removed a lot of the bloat and overclocked and pre-rooted it. Works great my only hiccup was I had to grab the swpye beta apk. Aside from that I just restored my apps and I was away.

kingston73 said:
Thanks for the replies so far. If I get anything wrong or mistaken, please jump in and correct me:
From what I've read, I don't think I'd like any of the Miui-types, they seem more iPhone like than android and I really don't like the iphone.
CM7 is cm7, so it'd be the same on my G2 as my nook color, right? My NC has a built in overclock, I didn't have to add anything extra, is CM7 for the G2 the same?
I've read many threads about how good Virtuous is, but seems like just as many people say it's too resource intensive and slow. Comparing it to the stock Tmo 2.2 or 2.3, is it at least as good? Seems pointless to develop something if it's slower than stock. Is the Insertcoin just a variation of virtuous?
I'm intrigued by Dit's recommended rom, that may be my first choice to try.
I guess I'm really looking for a 1 stop shop, it took me a little while to get the market working on my NC. Do any of the mentioned rom's have everything from the start, or do I still need to add pieces (like gapps, or wifi calling) after installing the rom?
The other rom that has my interest is meXdroidMod, any opinions on it?
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Gapps is embedded in the ILWT ROM, as is the EFS wipe tool, to help eliminate GPS issues (plus radio suggestions/info in the OP). Wifi Calling can also be added during ROM install. The OP gives all the info you could possibly need in his thread. Give it a thorough read... seems to cover all the things you've mentioned. And I've had nothing but best experience with it... been running it since nightly 186.

I've successfully rooted following the wiki, I was pretty nervous about screwing it up but everything went smoothly and exactly how it was written. I installed RomManager and flashed "clockworkmod recovery" and then clicked on "backup current rom" and it rebooted the phone and gave me several choices. I used the volume button to select "backup and restore" and selected that, and now it is showing me a screen with a top hat over an orange ring, it's just sitting there with no progress bars and no words. I was following the directions from this site:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/0...nandroid-backup-and-clockworkmod-rom-manager/
but it doesn't look like the screens on that site right now.
Is this supposed to happen, or did I somehow screw something up when I've barely gotten started?

You still need to flash a Recovery... you can do this through Rom Manager... but use version 3.0.2.4. Or, you could check out the Recovery in my signature. 4EXT Recovery... it's pretty wonderful. After you flash your chosen Recovery you will be able to make a NANDroid backup.
Misread your post. Yeah, you probably used the trackpad... sorry.
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Did you use the power button to select?Don't, use the trackpad

I thought clicking "flash clockworkmod recovery" was flashing a recovery? My big question is what do I do right now, as things seem locked up with just the hat/orange ring on the screen. It's been that way for about 5 minutes at least. Can I power off without hurting anything? And yes, I used power to select "backup/recover".

Press it again and then use the trackpad to scroll and select,that screen is like a screensaver so to speak.

Bombadier,
Many, many thanks to you, I was afraid I'd royally screwed up. If it wasn't for your help in my ADB thread I wouldn't have made it this far, many and much thanks!

No problems happy to of helped

Last question for the night, and sorry if this is a dumb newb question. Once a rom is flashed, what is the easiest, quickest way to reinstall all my old apps?

When you log into google your apps are synced,would recommend getting titanium backup though,a good app which can backup,restore apps,upload to dropbox,uninstall system apps very useful indeed

kingston73 said:
Last question for the night, and sorry if this is a dumb newb question. Once a rom is flashed, what is the easiest, quickest way to reinstall all my old apps?
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Before you flash a new ROM, download "Titanium Backup" off the market and use the Menu button to select Batch. Do a backup of all your apps and data (not system data), and when you flash a new ROM, reinstall Titanium, select Batch mode again, and restore all missing apps and data.

Pure Gingerbead

Hi there.
I'm gonna root my device now and I was looking the available ROMs here. Of course there are lots of ROMs and I don't know which one to choose.
Is there any ROM that is close to a pure Android Gingerbread (preferably the latest version)? Like the untouched android on nexus phones?
Thanx.

Cyanogenmod 7

Yep. I'm looking into Cyanogen right now.
It was the first ROM I heard about.
And it's the one suggested on Ace Hack Q&A.
I'm gonna try it.
I believe I can uninstall some apps that I don't want to use without any problems.
Thanx.

In all honestly, there are no apps on there to uninstall It's very very pure Android

The few differences from pure gingerbread to CM7 are improvements IMHO. There are some things you can remove if you're carefull and do it properly. I agree with above poster though, in that none need to be removed. Happy flashing!

Well, did it.
Seems good. But once I added the energy widget, I started receiving a com.android.phone error.
Seems like some error on the 2G/3G toggle, even though I didn't selected it.
Had to wipe everything, reinstall Cyanogen and run Titanuim backup again (this time only restoring apps).
Now I need to find another energy widget that does not give me this error (if the error is not in the ROM). Really useful for me, as I keep my 3G (never use 2G) on when needed.

Did you check the MD5 of your zip file matched what was on Cyanogen's website?

I got it from the official site.
Seems like some people are having this problem.
I found a workaround and it didn't occur again.
But I miss some of the sense stuff, like the good weather widget (no other in the market seems good) and some other stuff.
Let's see how long will it take for me to try another ROM

Try the app called "ilMeteo". The weather widget is quite good and forecasts (at least for Italy) are much more reliable.
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You may consider android revolution 6.1.2 it is untouched as possible from stock version, no visual changes but with many tweaks and optimizations applied.
Don't like sense ? apply the no-sense scripts and have fun !
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=840040

[Q] CM9 daily use

Hi,
I just wanted to ask, which one of the cm9 builds is better for daily use, and why?
What are the major/minor bugs in both of them?
Thanks in advance

I'm using CM9 from Turl... it's very stable... Only issue I have is that some games FC.

thanks, what abaut the battery life? does hdmi-out work?

Fantastic battery life all things considered. Its my daily. Switched over from joker to turl, find it more stable

Current Turl1's v8 CM9 is OK for my day-to-day life.
Some features are not implemented (profiles), some are in process of fixings (camcorder) etc.
Some apps FC from time to time or even always.
But for my d2d it's OK.

In my opinion, Turl's v8 is a little bit more stable than Joker's. Both far from perfect tough. I went back to GB for now...i might just wait till the firsts official ICS leaks for our device.
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same as DJLuis, Turl is the most stable but still some glitches, missing features and dodgy camera implementation.
Also back on GB Notachtrix now until official or leaked

i used joker's rom for a while!!
but some things are broken though !!
the fp scanner, laggy video playback on default player (3rd party video player does the job) !! camcorder, etc !!
some minor call bugs also !!
back to morrisoft cm7 rom !!

Thanks for all the answers.
I think i`ll first use a cm7 rom.
So if i want to unlock my bootloader, this also works for firmware 4.5.141 ,doesn´t it?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1182871

Give a read through this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1501532
A lot of people are having problems unlocking and rooting with 4.5.141. That thread gives detailed step-by step instructions on what to do.
As for CM9, I have been using it since day 1 and have been nothing but pleased. It is true, a few things don't work. but it's only a matter of time, I believe, before we get a fully functional ROM. You may want to try it out just to satisfy your curiosity. Just as a forewarning, you do have to do a full system wipe when switching between CM7 and CM9. That being said, it may be easier to just try out CM9 and if you're not pleased revert to CM7. It'll be a lot more painful to get everything set up on CM7 only to have an updated CM9 appeal to you again in a few weeks and have to wipe everything.
And yes, I do believe CM9 has HDMI out.
Good luck unlocking! Btw, I have been using joker's builds from the very beginning. I have been more pleased with them than with Turl1s.

Thanks, I already read this thread, but it´s more about having problems, when updating from 4.5.91 to 4.5.141, if you´ve had an unlocked bootloader at 4.5.91
I can just find links to this thread
( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1182871 )
which i had mentionend before. so this should work.?

anyone?
sorry for my impatience, but i´m really afraid of hard-bricking my phone...

I used that script and I had stock gingerbread 4.5.91. I have no idea what version firmware you are talking about since I haven't been on official firmware since then
- make sure you are AT&T Atrix, that script is only for AT&T
- if this is some later AT&T update then I'm afraid you'll have to search yourself.

Wipe necessary even though they tell you it isn´t
On Joker´s website, it says that wipe is not necessary between versions of CM9. I tend to disagree, as I have had multiple issues with Gmaps, App management, etc... that just disappeared after a fastboot wipe.
I think a lot of problems discussed here are due to dirty flashes and I would advise strongly to wipe when installing a new rom.

ok.
Is there anyone, who unlocked his bootloader on firmware 4.9.141 ?
I couldn´t find concrete instructions or how to´s

Danger! If you start down the cm9 path forever will it dominate... etc.
In all seriousness its buttery smoothness and updated time and date entry systems, cut paste, etc. and general os features improve all your apps and make it impossible to ignore so avoid until ready or be prepared to be a beta tester for quite a while!
Matt
Sent from my MB860 using XDA

I'm using jokersax 0.3 beta. It works great the only bugs I have is no video recorder and switching from portrait to landscape in browser causes a force close

metlca said:
anyone?
sorry for my impatience, but i´m really afraid of hard-bricking my phone...
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just follow the instructions here and u'll do fine....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1302423
mine works like a charm, as for roms...., if u r going for CM7, u got a a lotta choices and idk what to recommend u.
but... if u r looking for CM9, turl's v8 is a good place to start.....
but if ur gonna use CM9, as new n improved rom come out almost every week, get comfortable to wiping data, flashing new rom and restoring backups very often....
for backups, use titanium backup for ur apps...and MyBackup from rerware for your sms, call logs and contact or let google restores your contact if u enable the backup and restore in the setting...

pho_lone said:
just follow the instructions here and u'll do fine....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1302423
mine works like a charm, as for roms...., if u r going for CM7, u got a a lotta choices and idk what to recommend u.
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Thank You
So did you unlock your bootloader on firmware 4.9.141 and it worked fine ?

Widgets
Feeling pretty noobish right now...flashed from CM7 to Jokersax CM9 .31 today and I love the look and feel of it. How do you load widgets in CM9? I use the phone for business and Touchdown for Exchange for my email. I use one of the Touchdown widgets to be able to instantly view new email without opening the full blown app. But with CM9 I can't figure out how to load the widget.
Like I said, feeling pretty noobish right now. Help please.