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Im in the northern chicago area and I'm able to connect to 4g but the connection is slow and unstable...(even with 4 bars). Ive extended the idle time using ##data# but still I have the same issues??? Anybody with a solid connection care to share their ##data# settings? Im thinking the issue might in the settings......
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I'm in Seattle and see similar 4G behavior. Usually 2 bars or so and not great performance (marginally better than 3G). I'd be interested to see if this can be improved by tweaking the settings also.
the 4G antenna in the EVO is half the size of the USB one, I don't even get signal at my house on my EVO, yet I get 1.5MBs on my USB stick. Size matters.
Idk about 4G but i just moved into a new house and i have TERRRIBLE reception no matter where i am. If im not outside, it sucks. Its funny though, as soon as i step out the door, 5-6 bars. Im keeping the phone in hopes that as soon as they get 4G around here (Elmont, NY... Long Island), things will change. =\
sprints 4g is in a horrible part of the spectrum. it's frequency is too high to pass through anything
This thread does not belong here. Take this drivel to the appropriate subforum.
unless you are a running a stock rom with the latest updates, i don't think you can make any of these complaints that you all are unless 4g isn't fully up and running in your city. My girlfriend just got the white evo and we installed the latest updates and she gets a very good 4g signal, i have the black evo running fresh 0.5.3 and i get a pretty good signal myself. Not to mention we live in mpls and 4g isn't even officially here yet. A lot of these problems people are having are user errors, flashing things with no knowledge of what they are doing. I would say go back to stock do to ota update with the new radio and wimax enhancements then tell me what type of 4g coverage you are getting. otherwise you are just trusting the chef that everything is set up right which i would take with a grain of salt because non of them seem to understand exactly how the wimax radio works as of yet. Proof of this is all the problems people are having after trying numerous roms
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I'm in Seattle and see similar 4G behavior. Usually 2 bars or so and not great performance (marginally better than 3G). I'd be interested to see if this can be improved by tweaking the settings also.
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That's not very encouraging, I am very disappointed by Sprint's 3g speeds. I have yet to see over 1mbs, and over the 4th of July weekended saw .2-.7 mbs. Yes, .2 as in 192kbs. This was in Miami.
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This thread does not belong here. Take this drivel to the appropriate subforum.
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I started this thread with the intentions of looking into the settings of the wimax ##data# menu....not too rant about the service. I believe with the good signal I'm getting and the fact that I do connect shows that there's an issue with either the roms were flashing or the setting mentioned above. Anybody care to post their settings?
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Changing the wimax idle sleep time from 10 secs to 300 secs could help. My 4G stays on pretty much constantly now instead of switching back and forth between 4G and 3G. You would need your MSL to edit the settings though.
I have similar issues in the chicago land area as well. Very frustrating. I am using a stock rooted rom, but I am using an older OTA update. When I'm outside I always have a strong 4G signal. However, as soon as I go in doors I either loose the signal or have a very weak one. Before you say anything about updating, my GF's EVO is completely stock with the newest OTA update and her 4G behaves very similarly. I actually pick up a better signal at times. It just sucks because if the signal was just a LITTLE bit stronger I would be really happy.
Thats just due to the spectrum used for wimax is at such a high frequency that it does not penetrate walls very well. I'm not sure how sprint will try to remedy this problem, I'm not sure but I get strong signals at my work office and thats inside a building. At home I can get 4G if I am outside once inside I cant seem to get it at all.
What's "##data#" ? I would search it but haven't quite figured it out yet on the app. Google didn't help either (surprisingly).
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Im in the northern chicago area and I'm able to connect to 4g but the connection is slow and unstable...(even with 4 bars). Ive extended the idle time using ##data# but still I have the same issues??? Anybody with a solid connection care to share their ##data# settings? Im thinking the issue might in the settings......
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jr - I am in Gold Coast and recently noticed the 4G signal was junk. It used ot be great inside my 13th floor apartment. I went to the sprint store and they said one of the towers was being serviced (they called a tech. and he said this while I was there). They said end of this week it would be fixed. I was going to give them another week or so and see what the deal is then.
IMO it kind of defeats the purpose of having 4G then. 90% of the time that I want to surf the internet or use 4G I'm indoors, and I would imagine that goes for pretty much everybody. I know this isn't a problem for everybody so it seems, but I think for a lot of people it is.
interesting you say 4 bars of 4g. when i look at my phone i can get up to 6 vertical bars for 3g's signal strength, but with 4g on, and outside i can get 3 "bars" more like "upper wifi arcs" above the 4g signal. and inside my 4g doesn't even register anything, it just shows 4g with no arcs...
however my technique is to put the phone right next to the window and run my micro usb cable from there to my computer. and i then get great data connection...
still experimenting, (had the phone for less than a week) but i think it might work better to go to menu/settings/wirless&networks/ and uncheck mobile network so the phone doesn't use the 3g for data connection when 4g isn't there...
thus if the 4g signal is low, it doesn't drop it to grab the higher signal 3g...
lastly. i'm heading to the store to try to pick up a 2 buck plastic soap dish with a suction cup for the "high tech holding station" on my window. that and a 10 foot micro usb cable i think that will help even more...
best of luck.
I have figured out where in my neighborhood I can get a 4G signal (and I too keep my phone near the window when I want to use it at home). However since the OTA, I noticed that if my 4G signal drops it won't come back unless I toggle the 4G radio. It will just sit in "scanning" and use 3G.
Anyone else noticing this problem?
I would assume that one of the settings/timers need to be tweaked, but I have no idea what my those values were before the OTA.
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Idk about 4G but i just moved into a new house and i have TERRRIBLE reception no matter where i am. If im not outside, it sucks. Its funny though, as soon as i step out the door, 5-6 bars. Im keeping the phone in hopes that as soon as they get 4G around here (Elmont, NY... Long Island), things will change. =\
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4G has nothing to do with 3G. Clearwire maintains the 4G network and Ericsson maintains the 3G/1X network do if your 3G is bad now, it won't be any different when 4G launches unless Ericsson improves the situation.
If I'd got this device predominantly for 4G...Id've returned it in day one...(IN Chicago also). In fact wouldn't have bought it going in knowing what I knew about the spottiness of tapping into 4G frequency wirelessly.
that makes absolutely no sense.
per your words, 4G has nothing to do with 3G as in Clearwire has nothing to do with Ericsson so what would it matter if Ericsson decided to step its game up if Clearwire is the 4G company?
4G is on a whole different frequency not to mention a whole different tower technology and tower location possibly so there's definetly a good chance that I can maintain a great 4G signal once it arrives in my area compared to the terrible 3G coverage I get.
well see what happens... my luck they will never put 4G by me lol.
Is anybody else experiencing weak WiFi signal in hotspot mode? Any way to boost the signal or change the WiFi channel?
I just got my EVO Shift last week. I really like the speed and funtionality much better than my old Hero.
My 3G signal seems much weaker than I had with the Hero. I'm dropping calls and data connections in loacations where I never have before.
I guess I should take the phone in to a store and have the Techs check the radios. 4G radio works pretty good, though it too doesn't get the throughput that my Sprint Overdrive did.
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Is anybody else experiencing weak WiFi signal in hotspot mode? Any way to boost the signal or change the WiFi channel?
I just got my EVO Shift last week. I really like the speed and funtionality much better than my old Hero.
My 3G signal seems much weaker than I had with the Hero. I'm dropping calls and data connections in loacations where I never have before.
I guess I should take the phone in to a store and have the Techs check the radios. 4G radio works pretty good, though it too doesn't get the throughput that my Sprint Overdrive did.
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Is the PRL up to date...when I got my shift there was already a new PRL..check settings>system update>update prl
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I did a PRL update when I recieved the phone, but it did do a new update just now. There may be a slight improvement... I think that I'll still get the radios checked today.
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I finally got my phone in to the Sprint shop so they could run some diagnostics on the radios and they tell me its fine... I know its not, but I'll try to be patient and wait until at least the first major update to the phone before I make a rwal stink about it.
Is anybody else experiencing weeker signal levels for voice & data with the Shift? I'm dropping calls and data connections in places I never used to. Plus the signal output in hotspot mode is weak as well. I can be 10 feet from it with my tablet and only get 2 or 3 bars on my wifi signal level.
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I finally got my phone in to the Sprint shop so they could run some diagnostics on the radios and they tell me its fine... I know its not, but I'll try to be patient and wait until at least the first major update to the phone before I make a rwal stink about it.
Is anybody else experiencing weeker signal levels for voice & data with the Shift? I'm dropping calls and data connections in places I never used to. Plus the signal output in hotspot mode is weak as well. I can be 10 feet from it with my tablet and only get 2 or 3 bars on my wifi signal level.
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I compared mine to my wife hero, her is more than double my speed. not sure why, I will think a newer phone should be faster. anyone has any ideas?
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I compared mine to my wife hero, her is more than double my speed. not sure why, I will think a newer phone should be faster. anyone has any ideas?
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If all you want to do is bring up your 3G speeds. Do the mod on THIS post. It should fix the issue for you.
Anyway to improve 3G speeds on AOSP?
Evo SHIFT
Just flash back to a Sense rom. Make the changes, then flash back to AOSP.
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I do believe if you flash to sense, then go back, it has to be a new rom flash, not a nandroid, otherwise it restores those settings from the nandroid, not the changes you made in the sense rom.
You are correct . See now that I forgot to mention that .
Ahh, I'm guessing there's no way around that?
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Ahh, I'm guessing there's no way around that?
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sprints wifi tether is dependent on the signal strength.
on 3g avg dl speed is 45k upload 13k
4g is 950+kb 720 upload
IF your PRL is up to date AND you aren't fair from a tower
Hola, I've had my shift since it came out and have always experience poor 3G signal. I was wondering if anyone else has had this issue. I have tried the different radios posted in the developers section and i can never seem to get any higher than -102dBm for my signal strength.
I'm running the x99 stock rooted 2.3 rom atm. Also had poor signal strength on every 2.2 rom i ran
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I would bet its safe to say its sprints network I'm going on 3 months of poor data speeds and all I keep getting is credits on my account! Its lame
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What do you say to the sprint people to get that ceedit
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tell them the truth they know they suck lol i been dealing with it too hell they sent me new phones to help but still poor 3g
One more annoying question from me, do I need to talk to the sprint store people or call the annoying customer service people. I basically don't get any 3G and almost no Wi-Fi if it wasn't for 4G I would barely be able to use my phone and at that I stay at about -100. Lmao
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Hola, I've had my shift since it came out and have always experience poor 3G signal. I was wondering if anyone else has had this issue. I have tried the different radios posted in the developers section and i can never seem to get any higher than -102dBm for my signal strength.
I'm running the x99 stock rooted 2.3 rom atm. Also had poor signal strength on every 2.2 rom i ran
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my 3g is off and on crappy, but mostly when I try to download stuff from the market... 3g will be illuminated, then when is says starting download, the 3g icon is not illuminated, and the download will just hang there! its super annoying, especially when things auto update, and it just does nothing! x99 rooted 2.3.3 update rom seemsa little better, but I noticed a huge difference when I switched to cyanogenmod, my downloads are a **** ton faster, for internet, and market downloads are 10 times faster!
When I call sprint I tell them their network is a joke and a feature phones faster then what their network is I also tell them that the ROMS on the phone lie and say 3G constantly even though the speeds are 1X and that's wrong of them to bold face lie I tell them all kinds of **** I guess it depends on how mad I am, I'm getting ready to send yet another email to sprints escalation crew and they bout to get it this has been going on for months
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When I call sprint I tell them their network is a joke and a feature phones faster then what their network is I also tell them that the ROMS on the phone lie and say 3G constantly even though the speeds are 1X and that's wrong of them to bold face lie I tell them all kinds of **** I guess it depends on how mad I am, I'm getting ready to send yet another email to sprints escalation crew and they bout to get it this has been going on for months
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i read somewhere that sprint purposely left out the 1x icon so that people think they are always on 3g, even though its apparent when you are not getting 3g speeds! very sneaky
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One more annoying question from me, do I need to talk to the sprint store people or call the annoying customer service people. I basically don't get any 3G and almost no Wi-Fi if it wasn't for 4G I would barely be able to use my phone and at that I stay at about -100. Lmao
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annoying customer service lol is your best bet they can help more sprint stores wont help much i have found out
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When I call sprint I tell them their network is a joke and a feature phones faster then what their network is I also tell them that the ROMS on the phone lie and say 3G constantly even though the speeds are 1X and that's wrong of them to bold face lie I tell them all kinds of **** I guess it depends on how mad I am, I'm getting ready to send yet another email to sprints escalation crew and they bout to get it this has been going on for months
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be carefull telling them you use different roms they can mark your act for tos violation and not give you tech support anymore we the people are not aloud to change out phones lol what a joke
EDIT: Signal improvement went away... see followup post below.
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Meant to post about this two days ago, and got busy.
I've been one of those with near zero signal in my home neighborhood. I live in Scotts Valley, near Santa Cruz CA. Since I got my Epic last October, I have been extremely frustrated that I get 0/1 bars at home, the signal is too weak to be usable for phone calls (constant digital dropouts -- conversation is impossible), and of course pathetic data rates when I can actually get a connection, which ALSO is never reliable.
When I bought the phone, a tower within sight of my home on another ridge was scheduled to get a Sprint site before the end of the year (2010), according to their website map. Then, this upgrade disappeared. I called, and no one knew anything, of course.
I've been roaming on VZW, who have a 4/5 bar signal here, via Roam Control ever since I got the phone. Fine for calls and text, no data worth speaking about.
Woke up two days ago, and was at first mystified, then thrilled to see 5 solid bars on Sprint!!!! 3G data rates consistently 1100/750 down/up!!!
Apparently, they finally got around to upgrading their coverage in the area. 'bout time
4G? Don't even go there. Not yet, not expecting it... Ever.
Wow my 3g speeds are 200 down max and I have no 4g
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In a way, I have Sprint's poor coverage in my hood to thank for me needing to root and get acquainted with XDA. Otherwise no Roam Control. But it would rock to get a similar upgrade around here. Zoning and landscape just make it really unlikely. If I go just half a mile north or west it's totally different, with 4G and all. Hell, I can watch Netflix over 4G at my office, just not where I stay. I hope your story is repeated far and wide.
I've had the same experience as you. I've been with sprint for 11 years now and my signal is now amazing at the house. 2600 kbps dl, 550 ul. On average, of course. They upgraded the tower nsar my house last year.
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My rwception got worse so to u took my tower I want it back
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Network Vision...
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Network Vision...
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So this network vision thingy. Do they have a timeline on what cities get it first? Or am I just a needy young man? ahah
Congrats. Anybody else?
UPDATE: After some joy, Sprint decided to turn off whatever they did. Back to 0/1 bars here at home, inability to use voice without constant dropouts, no data to speak of...
Back to Roam Control and cursing Sprint. I am so close to walking away from my contract into VZW's arms. The SG2 could be enough...
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Someone with a car airave spent the nite? Lol...
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I live in Missouri (right next to sprint hq), and my service is never steady, usually shabby. But with the new EG22plus modem I get 4 bars constant. U might want to look into updating/rollbacking ur prl and/modem?
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Back to Roam Control and cursing Sprint. I am so close to walking away from my contract into VZW's arms. The SG2 could be enough...
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Staying exclusively on roaming is the easiest way to break your contract; they'll show you the door, or so I've been told...
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Staying exclusively on roaming is the easiest way to break your contract; they'll show you the door, or so I've been told...
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that's more true if you use a load of data. I use roam control for voice and text constantly because my apartment is a dead zone, and I use my wireless router for data, never got anything about it from sprint
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that's more true if you use a load of data. I use roam control for voice and text constantly because my apartment is a dead zone, and I use my wireless router for data, never got anything about it from sprint
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That describes me. At home forced roaming so I can actually make and receive calls, data over wifi.
With the RC tasker plugin, phone automatically switches between forced roaming when in range of my home network, then back to "automatic" when out of range.
It's a workable solution, but not something I should have to do.
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You guys having problems in your house complain enough they will send you a Airrave for free.
Would that not be a Pleasant surprise instead of unpleasant? My signal seems to have gotten better lately as well
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You guys having problems in your house complain enough they will send you a Airrave for free.
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Yep. The only reason I'm still with them is because of the free Airrave. Without it, signal in my home was unacceptable.
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This may be a bit off topic, but I roam ALLLLL day when I'm at work, it gets me quite angry, and I continue to use data and phone while I "roam" , and saw a charge for roaming one time but called sprint and asked them how the **** I am roaming within my coverage area. They fed me some BS but took the charge away. I've never seen a charge for roaming since. Do you guys get charges?
So far as I know, with my family 2 phone everything plan, roaming is included.
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I just looked, it doesnt say roaming anywhere, but when looking at changing my services, the only roaming option given is Canada Roaming.
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Found it.
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Coming from a Motorola RAZR, I had LTE and 4G in a lot more locations than the Note3 is getting. Sometimes I even lose signal completely while it's switching towers. My RAZR never had this issue.
Is the antenna just weaker in the Samsungs?
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Coming from a Motorola RAZR, I had LTE and 4G in a lot more locations than the Note3 is getting. Sometimes I even lose signal completely while it's switching towers. My RAZR never had this issue.
Is the antenna just weaker in the Samsungs?
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Motorola has always had great radios samsung not so good unfortunately
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That's disappointing to hear. I love this phone but if it can't do basic things that i'm accustomed to, it's frustrating. what good is it if i'm in 1x or 3G when my 2 year old RAZR was 4G in the same locations.
+1 for moto radios. I was spoiled and didn't even know it.
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+1 for moto radios. I was spoiled and didn't even know it.
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Had a Razr Maxx about 8 months ago, beginning to miss that part too. Can't use wifi because of the unsolvable multicast packet wakelock/drain. In buildings where I used to get 2 bars 4G with the Note 2 its now either 2 bars 3G or 1 bar 1X if I hold the phone at the bottom (where I think the radios might be). Needless to say I pay attention during the entire class period now.
Does anyone know of a good app to refresh the network. I used to use fresh network on my rezound but it force closes on my note 3.
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Had a Razr Maxx about 8 months ago, beginning to miss that part too. Can't use wifi because of the unsolvable multicast packet wakelock/drain. In buildings where I used to get 2 bars 4G with the Note 2 its now either 2 bars 3G or 1 bar 1X if I hold the phone at the bottom (where I think the radios might be). Needless to say I pay attention during the entire class period now.
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Tellnfo might work a simple turn off radios and then back on could help
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My reception was so bad I called n complained 3 times to Verizon... Finally they called Samsung n Samsung said I could have a bad antenna so they shipped me a new n3....i still have the same issues
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I got a Samsung and I get horrible service at my house. 3 quarters of the time I have no signal but if step one foot outside I get good service 3 quarters of the time so it is a win lose situation
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I got a Samsung and I get horrible service at my house. 3 quarters of the time I have no signal but if step one foot outside I get good service 3 quarters of the time so it is a win lose situation
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Living on the edge of 3G coverage...when I say edge I mean 5 ft behind my house I would drop signal on most phones. 2 bars and no dropped calls or failed to send texts I would get with the old S4. So im getting great reception.
I spend time in a remote part of north Idaho. I get 1 bar of signal, no 4G, and limited 3G (instead of 1G) when I am lucky. I previously have chosen Moto phones because of the weak signal in that area. I bought a Note 3 fully prepared to return the phone in my 14 day window and swap for the Droid Maxx if necessary. I have been pleasantly surprised with the quality of the radio reception. It is on par with my previous Droid Razr. I have no complaints.
I've noticed my N3 gets poor or no 4g reception where my Note 2 got great 4G. I also noticed it would be on 3g when I know there's 4g in the area I'm in (e.g. highway), and I also found that if I disconnected data manually or made a call and disconnected (which also disconnects 3g), sometimes it would find and connect to 4G.
I hope this gets fixed in a radio update
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I've noticed my N3 gets poor or no 4g reception where my Note 2 got great 4G. I also noticed it would be on 3g when I know there's 4g in the area I'm in (e.g. highway), and I also found that if I disconnected data manually or made a call and disconnected (which also disconnects 3g), sometimes it would find and connect to 4G.
I hope this gets fixed in a radio update
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Exactly my experience!
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Anyone have a flashable zip of the new radio? We now have official release of SS to flash it
We have SS now?! Sweet!
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We have SS now?! Sweet!
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Yup look here but still not 100% justttt yet http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2517610
Signal strength horrible
Just bought a note 3 coming from a droid Bionic and original droid before that. The signal in my building is not great but my Bionic rarely had a problem with 4g. The note 3 is dropping to 3g and I have even seen 1x (haven't seen that in years). Data doesn't work half the time at work and that is an issue. Since I haven't had a Samsung before does anyone think this will be fixed? I did the update yesterday and was hoping that was this fix but nope. I was tossed between the note 3 and the droid maxx( for battery life). I still have a week to switch (for a fee of course) but the phone is awesome. However I can't live with bad reception. Does anyone have a comparison with the droid maxx for reception?
Thanks for the help.
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Anyone have a flashable zip of the new radio? We now have official release of SS to flash it
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Id like to see a flashable zip of the new radios as well...anyone?
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