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Hey Guys-
Picked up my Atrix yesterday (coming FROM A Galaxy S) ... noticed some battery drainage right off the bat...
anyways, wanted to get feedback from the community. Should I keep this phone (reliability) or am I better off trading it back for a streak?
Thank you!
Alex
u are going to get bias opinion on an Atrix forum
Definetly do not go to the streak. I actually returned the streak for the atrix. Even paid and extra 100 bucks. Although I loved the form factor, and it was pretty fast. It is extremly fragile, broke twice in a month once just by walking with it in my pocket in a otterbox! It has much worse battery life, and dell ****in sucks. The only thing I really miss is the screen, but the atrix is definitely a better phone. (I just hope the bootloader will get unlocked because the steak has a pretty good streakdroid rom)
*Not biased I really wanted to keep the streak.
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Heres a quick comparison...
http://www.esato.com/phones/compare.php?phone=719&cp=759
I'd go atrix despite the problems. It's newer, better hardware, higher resolution, better camera etc etc..
Also, we ended up with about 60 streaks at my company. Within a few months of distribution we started hearing about cracked screens (LCD+Glass) So evidently they can be a bit delicate
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Heres a quick comparison...
http://www.esato.com/phones/compare.php?phone=719&cp=759
I'd go atrix despite the problems. It's newer, better hardware, higher resolution, better camera etc etc..
Also, we ended up with about 60 streaks at my company. Within a few months of distribution we started hearing about cracked screens (LCD+Glass) So evidently they can be a bit delicate
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That is a helpful link, thank you!
I had no idea that Moto was still boot locking their devices... ! WTF!!
I gotta do some research now... It was a toss up between this phone or the inspire or streak... I think I have my question answered now between the streak...but now this locked boot loader kind of has me frazzled.
Thank you!
I had the dell streak and it was great. But at time its to big. Trying to text was a pain. Went to the atrix everything is good but the speeds suck. I was getting better speeds with the dell streak. I really hope Att does fix it quick or else I'm jumping ship.
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As a follow up to this i ended up with a Dell Streak through work and have bleeding/cracked lcd in 1 corner within 5 hrs of taking it out of the box. No drops, no mashing on it, nothing...
So yea, very very fragile
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Coming from a galaxy s the battery life is amazing on this phone. On most days i can get over double the life on my atrix vs. The galaxy s i had
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IF you need a phone, Id say go with Atrix, Streak is just too big for the phone. Also it is older hardware.
Returned my Streak for an Atrix.
The phone may not be too great right now but..... The updates coming soon will full unleash what It can do.
If I were you, Its personal preference.
The speed is GREAT on the Atrix. Change your launcher and I've heard the update helps too. I'm using SPB 3D launcher and the performance is amazing even with 5+ apps open.
Battery life is great on the Atrix. Resolution is higher than the Streak (or Captivate which I was used to). The extra resolution is quite useful for web browsing, etc. The locked bootloader is a bummer but there are already quasi-ROM's out there that take care of the important issues, WiFi hotspot, Themes, bloatware, etc.
All you are losing is the bigger screen, which I must say I would prefer, but you get a LOT for the trade-off.
Just got an update today that claimed to fix battery issues on the atrix. So that may not be an issue
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I would see how Dell does in the Android market before i take the plunge. They have no track record, and are notorious for dropping complete product lines on a whim.
Not sour grapes, I have had good luck with servers and worstations - and I used to work there. But they need to prove to me they can make a phone and can support it before i even look at one.
rickyzone said:
Just got an update today that claimed to fix battery issues on the atrix. So that may not be an issue
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So what system version & build # do you have now?
I had both phones. I came from a Streak to this. My brother owned the Streak, bought it in August.. i used it until i bought the Atrix and I have had the Atrix for about a month.
The Streak was nice. The Froyo update made it worthwhile. It is definitely not for everybody.
I had good battery life. Lasted me a full day no problems(captivate couldn't do nearly as good as the streak or atrix for me)
Streak is alot closer to Stock Android out of the box. Has a little bit of development going for it, but who knows if that will continue.
Bootloader isn't locked lol.
I really liked the Streak. Hated to see it go honestly.
My upgrade came up and I decided to grab an Atrix, my brother wanted me to sell the Streak for him.. they really are not comparable directly, but the atrix is going to get carrier supported updates for a while longer while the Streak will get killed off and not supported soon.
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Atrix all the way
My brother in law recently asked me if I wanted to take his xoom off his hands for 400$ bucks. First off I'm not too fond of the moto brand butim willing to give it a shot. Anywho I was wondering to get some general input on the device.
How are you guys digging the speed, over all performance of the device?
are there any hardware quirks or the like I should know of?
How easy is it to obtain the 1.5ghz overclock? Also how is it faring in battery life and system stability with the oc?
Sorry for the questions but seeing reports of gt10.1 feeling snappier and smoother than the xoom I got a little worried. Seeing as if they're almost identical on the silicon front.
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The Xoom and the Galaxy Tab 10.1 use the exact same processor/gpu and software, anyone who says it's faster is just wrong.
Quite frankly while oc to 1.5G is extremely good and many thanks to our devs here,
new 3.1 stock is running smooth like silk and much much faster than even the oc one of 3.0.1
I think google hit the major home run on the previous ipad 2 advantage, the responsiveness of everything (apps, screen etc)
LOVING MY 3.1 so far.
They aren't using the same processor. The xoom uses a tegra 2 while the galaxy tab uses a new Samsung dualcore Orion processor, similar to the apple a5.
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>while the galaxy tab uses a new Samsung dualcore Orion
Link, please?
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They aren't using the same processor. The xoom uses a tegra 2 while the galaxy tab uses a new Samsung dualcore Orion processor, similar to the apple a5.
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I don't know where you heard that crazy fact. That was a false rumor from 2010.
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Still... what are some things you guys love and hate about your xoom? I don't really like site reviews because they usually only report on first impressions. I want feedback from people that have had it for months now. I am an epic 4g owner. One of the things I was wondering if I could do was use the psx emu coupled with a controller. I heard 3.1 gave you guys the ability to use a 360 or ps3 controller. This is one of the biggest selling points to me. Emus. How are you guys doing with them?
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>while the galaxy tab uses a new Samsung dualcore Orion
Link, please?
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The G-Tab uses Tegra 2
engadget.com/2011/02/13/samsung-galaxy-tab-10-1-official-tegra-2-honeycomb-dual-camer
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Still... what are some things you guys love and hate about your xoom? I don't really like site reviews because they usually only report on first impressions. I want feedback from people that have had it for months now. I am an epic 4g owner. One of the things I was wondering if I could do was use the psx emu coupled with a controller. I heard 3.1 gave you guys the ability to use a 360 or ps3 controller. This is one of the biggest selling points to me. Emus. How are you guys doing with them?
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Wow, I actually wrote a pretty great reply to you and accidentally hit discard on my Xoom, that's -1 lol.
So I'm not going to type everything I typed previously but ill try to end with this. Specifically I like myXoom because its small with a bignscreen, it has a good weight and feel to it, not a huge fan of the super thin stuff.
You won't catch too many people here saying this but, as long as it runs 3.0+ you're golden, they'll all do the same stuff. The Xoom does have pretty much everything, I read somewhere the Tab does not have a micro USB port, that's a dealbreaker for me.
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I just wanted to ask you guys my fellow Epic owners if any of you own an Android tablet and from a development standpoint which one would you go with? Are there any Epic devs that do any tablet custom work?
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Bonsai has had a ROM out for the Galaxy 10.1 for a couple of weeks now. Also working on the ASUS Transformer.
Those are the two front runners on my list right now with Asus being in the lead.
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If I were to buy a tablet, i'd either get:
Cheap: Nook Color, already has a big community, cm7, hc
Not so cheap: Galaxy Tab 10.1, cleanest looking HC tablet I've seen, and I've seen 'em all.
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transformer has bang for buck value however ive seen two at work haber to be returned due to non responsive screens.
Galaxy 10.1 stopped me from buying the flyer/view. I really liked the 7 inch screen but the galaxy just felt great....nicest thing compared to the ipad.
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I'm getting a transformer once they fix the bugs and 3.0 is open source. I'm keeping an eye on the forums.
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Dont forget about HP touchpad.
Yeah it got many bugs and negative reviews due to bugs but after an update im sure that web os will shine on it.Its slow and lags because hp dint have anough time to write the code for touchpad's gpu so basicly right now cpu does all gpu tasks.
Yeah I want GS 10.1 too but I will wait and see if hp fixes touchpad first because I want something different from ios and android.
Ill be buying an android tablet once they stop using the tegra 2. Until then, 10 ft poll.
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Ill be buying an android tablet once they stop using the tegra 2. Until then, 10 ft poll.
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The transformer can be oced to 1.6 stable on a dual core tegra
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I have a galaxy tab 10.1 and I love it so much. It was a tough choice between the tab and the Asus transformer... but I just liked the size/weight of the tab better.
Don't buy a Honeycomb tablet.
Wait for Ice Cream or later when the interesting hardware and software optimizations take hold with 10 "retina display" equivalents and quad core processors.
I was gonna buy once a quad core came out..but after seeing a gtab for 250$ new that has a tegra 2 cpu I couldn't resist...it has a port of cm7 and honeycomb. and stuff...they aren't perfect but they work for the most part. Its biggest weakness right now is lack of honeycomb tegra 2 drivers and its screen is not the best LCD tech used..otherwise its ok..
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The transformer can be oced to 1.6 stable on a dual core tegra
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And still can't play media files my phone can . . . . .
That's why I have no interest in a tegra 2 tablet. Complete and utter failure to play ALL high profile h.264 video in at least 720p, which is something my epic can do and the original ipad can do. Yes,, the original single core ipad..
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I was gonna buy once a quad core came out..but after seeing a gtab for 250$ new that has a tegra 2 cpu I couldn't resist...it has a port of cm7 and honeycomb. and stuff...they aren't perfect but they work for the most part. Its biggest weakness right now is lack of honeycomb tegra 2 drivers and its screen is not the best LCD tech used..otherwise its ok..
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The 7" gab does not have a tegra 2 and is not dual core.
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I had a sylvania tablet for the the longest and manged to get Google Market and froyo on it (unless you had one, you know that was a GREAT feat!) and I was happy with it...unfortunately, circumstances forced me to sell it and when I did he had just gotten rid of his 7' Galaxy Tab, telling me that the simplest tilt would make it change orientation quickly. I was surprised that he chucked it for a sylvania. I plan on either getting a Color Nook next, or try to find a sale on an Acer a500.
Also:ironically, 3 weeks after I sold the Sylvania Tablet, the source code was finally released for it, which means development for it is soon to rise *sigh* real bad time, I guess...
We bought a bunch of sgtabs at work. Love mine from a practical standpoint, but the dev world is a bit behind. I don't think its lacking much, just a reliable cwm and then a complete set of stock files (modem, kernel, rom) and things will be moving. I expect the source will eventually come out. I hear that's what's lacking in the kernel dev dept. Personally I like samsung. When the 4g 10.1 is released I plan on getting that one. Despite the slow update releases, you have to admit, the galaxy s line rocks.
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I had a sylvania tablet for the the longest and manged to get Google Market and froyo on it (unless you had one, you know that was a GREAT feat!) and I was happy with it...unfortunately, circumstances forced me to sell it and when I did he had just gotten rid of his 7' Galaxy Tab, telling me that the simplest tilt would make it change orientation quickly. I was surprised that he chucked it for a sylvania. I plan on either getting a Color Nook next, or try to find a sale on an Acer a500.
Also:ironically, 3 weeks after I sold the Sylvania Tablet, the source code was finally released for it, which means development for it is soon to rise *sigh* real bad time, I guess...
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I looked at the Acer A500 for a long time, I really wanted it. But after read tablet reviews on Engadget I changed my mind. The A500 definitely looks great and has a great looking screen.
I have a motorola xoom and just got the 3.2 upgrade. The xoom is the default google experience device so it gets all of the updates (us only). Which is quite nice when compared to the epic's slow upgrade process.
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Don't buy a Honeycomb tablet.
Wait for Ice Cream or later when the interesting hardware and software optimizations take hold with 10 "retina display" equivalents and quad core processors.
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Hmmmm.....I think this is some
good advice. I'll hold off for a little bit.
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Dont forget about HP touchpad.
Yeah it got many bugs and negative reviews due to bugs but after an update im sure that web os will shine on it.Its slow and lags because hp dint have anough time to write the code for touchpad's gpu so basicly right now cpu does all gpu tasks.
Yeah I want GS 10.1 too but I will wait and see if hp fixes touchpad first because I want something different from ios and android.
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It's a single core CPU and has the weight and dimensions of the iPad 1.... No Netflix, kindle reader, and Skype on it sucks... It's also more expensive... Honestly, what does it have going for it? I'd love for webOS to take off, but it just keeps lagging behind by about 9 months...
I don't know if anybody here has heard, but Acer just teased a new tablet, amazing sounding one, to say the least, and I was just wondering everybody's opinion of Acer's build quality, and how well they update their devices currently, and just the overall performance that you get out of this tablet.
Here's the article for anyone who wanted to see:
http://www.phonedog.com/2012/01/08/acer-shows-new-iconia-tab-with-quad-core-processor-1080p-display/
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Oh my! as much as I don't want to spend more money, I might need to THIS LOOKS TO BE QUITE AN UPGRADE ..
To answer your question Acer has good quality for the bucks in your bank. I like Acer as this is my fist Acer product matter in fact the only complaint I have is the microphone it stinks.. but if they have fixed that which I'm sure they have ill be sure to pick this up!
Thanks for the link!
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Mic isn't bad at all, just not very loud... Some voice chat programs (including skype and gtalk, unfortunately) mess things up, though, giving you weird background noises (not on all devices, though, it works for me). Other than that, the Acer devices are very well worth their money.
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I don't know if anybody here has heard, but Acer just teased a new tablet, amazing sounding one, to say the least, and I was just wondering everybody's opinion of Acer's build quality, and how well they update their devices currently, and just the overall performance that you get out of this tablet.
Here's the article for anyone who wanted to see:
http://www.phonedog.com/2012/01/08/acer-shows-new-iconia-tab-with-quad-core-processor-1080p-display/
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If you Google Acer A700 you'll see that the specs on that tab have been out for awhile. I'll be waiting to see if Acer delivers ICS to this tab first. If they drop support on this tab, there's no way in h3ll I'll be purchasing another Acer tab. If they do give us ICS on our tabs, I'll be grabbing the A700, as it seems it's going to be the best "bang for the buck" among the 2012 tabs
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If you Google Acer A700 you'll see that the specs on that tab have been out for awhile. I'll be waiting to see if Acer delivers ICS to this tab first. If they drop support on this tab, there's no way in h3ll I'll be purchasing another Acer tab. If they do give us ICS on our tabs, I'll be grabbing the A700, as it seems it's going to be the best "bang for the buck" among the 2012 tabs
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I agree 120% with this .. I have a birthday coming in MAY .. Giggles..
if my a500 does not get the support it should.. i might just wait and get a win 8 arm tablet.. and Dual Boot it .but there is always battery issues with windows . we will see what the tech word brings us in 2012.. for now my a 500 meets all the HAVE to have needs.. as if i really NEED a tablet.
Acer always seems to be giving the best bang for your buck, whether it is laptops or not tablets.
One gripe I have against acer is their bloatware. Some may like it but others (like myself) can't stand it.
Also keep in mind that acer is releasing the A200 soon. It's pretty much the same spec wise as the A500 but apparently has no rear facing camera. The pricing looks quite attractive though. I'm still happy with my A500. I actually have no desire to replace it with something newer and better, and I usually drool over the latest and greatest in technology.
I've had an a500 since november and the build quality is great. They have been providing adequate updates so far, and I expect them to provide ICS, but we will see.
Ive been wanting to get a second tablet bc my daughter always has this one and wouldn't hesitate to buy another acer.
Other than build quality ill be looking at development on market app as well as on xda
Gameloft and other game developers choose a500 as a flag ship for development another reason I choose this tablet over Asus, Samsung, and Mototrola. I contacted Gameloft before I picked up a 10.1 tablet around September and asked them what tablet to pick up they told me Acer Iconia because Acer has been the only company that was helping them out the most with developmental needs.. so of course when I went to best buy they were out of a500s and I had 300 bucks from trading in my Droid incredible and I didn't want to wait so I picked up the thrive because of the nice stuff included with it.. but ended up having nothing as far as xda & others so picked up tf101 loved it but it kept slipping out of my hands.. lol so bestbuy finally called me to tell me the Acer was in so I picked it up answer fell in love with it. So that my awesome story and we lived happily ever after
So I will most likely pick up Acer if top devs do aswell.
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Thanks for the replies guys! I still have plenty of time to think this over. Acer is definitely a huge choice now though, and I like this community, way friendlier than the original Asus Transformer. Back before the Prime came out, I made a thread like this, asking about Asus and what to expect in the tablets, and it was immediately hostile responses. Terrible, but glad I didn't have enough to buy that Prime, so much bad reports about it. My choices are now this A700, thanks to your responses and some research, and the Asus TF700T.
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Oh, also something else, is Acer good with the bootloader? Like is it locked, or is it somewhat easy to root? Not a big deal, but just curious
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Lol your welcome too root is simple as long as u dont update u will just install an app that do it 4 you but if you dont know much about rooting you better search thses forums
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The Acer bootloader does some checksumming and stuff that makes rooting hard on the newer FWs, but there's a rooting method around that works (downgrading isn't much of a problem). As has been said, just use the search.
Alright, I was just wondering though, different company's products usually have completely different rooting methods than others; I've only ever rooted all my HTC phones, but thanks.
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Just thought some would find this info helpful..
UPDATE: Looks like this is indeed the A700. The folks at The Verge managed to find the new Iconia Tab lounging around in Vegas and discovered that it's packing a 1.3GHz quad-core Tegra 3 processor and Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich, as well as the aforementioned 1080p display. It's also got Bluetooth support, a microSD card slot, and an HDMI port. As far as release details go, the A700 is said to be landing sometime in the second quarter, but no other specific launch information is known just yet.
Got my nexus 7 and I like it but like my 7.7 much better. However I'm tired of waiting for Verizon and I don't use the cell radio anymore.
In your opinion is it worth it to sell it and get the p6800 so I can get ICS now and have a better chance of future roms? I don't need the 3g if the p6810 is better.
I've tried them all (excite, nexus) and I keep coming back to this guy. Wish it was a little faster but otherwise its the best.
Thanks for your thoughts.
I would get it, you will not regret it. Currently running cm9 version of ICS and is excellent. 3g is always a good idea to have, I am using straight Talk and no issues for close to 4 months. Who knows when the Verizon version will get ICS, plus not that much development going on with the Verizon at the minute.
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Thanks!
Would you say there's a noticeable speed difference between honeycomb and ICS on the 7.7?
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Thanks!
Would you say there's a noticeable speed difference between honeycomb and ICS on the 7.7?
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You know that CM9 is available for the Verizon i815, right? The performance difference is night and day. I will never go back to honeycomb. I may flash the official ICS when it drops for radio updates or to tinker, but CyanogenMod is where its at.
I don't know why you'd want to use touchwiz'd ICS, but if that's your intention, you can wait it out, or get the WiFi/3g version.
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I saw that, but also saw all the messages about bricking your device. Makes me a bit wary.
I don't know much about rooting, flashing roms, etc.
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I saw that, but also saw all the messages about bricking your device. Makes me a bit wary.
I don't know much about rooting, flashing roms, etc.
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This is my fourth android device but only started flashing from my second one up to this tab. It is a bit it scary at first, but if follow directions you will be ok.
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Just want to post a little update... Looks like I'm stuck with the Verizon 7.7. I put it on eBay with a reserve and it ended at $340! The tablet has all of the original accessories and looks like new! Thankfully I paid eBay's exorbitant reserve listing fee and it didn't sell.
I guess the Nexus 7 has destroyed the market for these smaller tablets. I'm not sure if I can stomach paying around $200 to go from this one to the P6800. (I have learned my lesson about buying tablets from Verizon/AT&T, etc! Wi-Fi or international from here on out...)
I guess the average person doesn't know (or care) about the benefits of this versus the 7 (and I'm not knocking the 7, I have one):
AMOLED, bigger screen, thinner, microsd, two cameras, haptic feedback, hdmi/mhl...
I took this into consideration before buying the i815. I decided that it was worth it since I plan on staying on Verizon for awhile and this is a really nice tablet and I prefer the size over a 7".
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