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Ok so the Vibrant is not that old but seems like its forgotten already. Well the whole Galaxy S series! Bs since its only like 4 months old. Makes me mad that android devices get left behind so fast just to be replaced so quick. Not everyone can buy a new android device every week. I love my Vibrant but this crap makes me mad! Come on SLOW down with android devices already. Just my 2 cents! And no im not a fan boy. Just wanted to get this off my mind. Thanks a million!
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you don't know much about the field and business of technology do you?
The second you buy any electronic device, it is obsolete before you even walk out of the store with it. It's something you have to accept if you make any electronics purchases.
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Well as long as Samsung support the current Galaxy S line with updates I will be happy, if they don't, I know I won't be buying a Samsung phone again.
Even though they keep coming out with new phones doesn't mean yours isn't good. Root that baby, flash a rom and fall in love with your phone all over again.
Yea I Know how electronics are.just think its stupid.but love my vibrant. Already rooted.just need offical froyo 2.2 and and I will be happy!
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darkside79 said:
Yea I Know how electronics are.just think its stupid.but love my vibrant. Already rooted.just need offical froyo 2.2 and and I will be happy!
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Dont wait... Just go to akaskriller.com he already have the real one thanx to eugene
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cant wait for dual core smartphones with dedicated gpu.
4.5" screen
5+mp camera w/ flash and dedicated camera button
actual hard buttons
and of course ANDROID
And of course with the same 13-1500mAh batteries these has, so we'll have like 5000 threads about terrible battery life, etc.
Personally, I don't think there is anything great about the Vibrant outside of the screen. That was Samsung's main selling point. The GPU is good, but there are now apps popping up left and right that are claiming "No Support for Samsung Galaxy S."
Yahoo Messenger for Android now has no Support for Galaxy S, Lol.
Not going to bother buying another Samsung phone anyways, but certainly not going to buy another phone with internals outside of the mainstream.
I personally view them going in another direction IRT hardware has a massive failure. That's like buying a Windows Computer with an AMD Processor, and Microsoft telling you Live Messenger isn't supported on you computer because you got AMD instead of Intel, or Microsoft Office won't run on your computer because you're running Windows Vista instead of 7, or WoW won't run on your computer because you got an ATI instead of an NVidia. Massive failure, IMO.
Apps > Hardware.
Then there's the issue of a bunch of apps simply being incompatible due to the phone only having Android 2.1...
If you expect a Nexus S or whatever to change that, then I dunno what to say. 90% of high end smartphones run Snapdragons and most don't run TouchWiz, so developers will continue to target architectures which are the majority - as they should, cause targetting Samsung's phone and ending up with apps that crash and burn on all those other phones would be utterly retarded.
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Well as long as Samsung support the current Galaxy S line with updates I will be happy, if they don't, I know I won't be buying a Samsung phone again.
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yeah, this
only to add: i will actively tell every person i know to avoid samsung like the plague
ball's in your court samsung!
ed1380 said:
cant wait for dual core smartphones with dedicated gpu.
4.5" screen
5+mp camera w/ flash and dedicated camera button
actual hard buttons
and of course ANDROID
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in a few weeks new Galaxy S/Nexus S coming to Tmobile. maybe it will be dual and 99.9% it will have flash. and the best thing, no more waiting for updates, and it will already come with Android 2.3
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Dont wait... Just go to akaskriller.com he already have the real one thanx to eugene
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Got in the site... i figured it out and didn't have to watch that whole video lol
Please tell me your not mad that technology is advancing. Really? Is it such a bad thing? Nobody is forcing you to go out and buy the newest, fastest and greatest device. Personally I think while the vibrant may lack in 2.2 and some other things like flash and a 4.3" screen or HSPA+ it more than makes up for in MONSTER graphics computing, overall speed, a beautiful 4" SAMOLED screen and a camera that takes pretty amazing pics. I did expect better support from samsung considering the phone is across all carriers However I did buy the phone as is so I cant complain too much. it still holds its own against any other device out right now. Plus... The Nexus 2 will basically be a Galaxy S so we should see easy porting to our devices once gingerbread is released and android 3.0.
Hopefully we'll see some advanced implimentation of battery technology to make these handsets last a while with usage. Cause I don't want to see another ZOMG! I got 47 hours of battery.... with everything off.
Don't blame me, blame my keyboard's autocorrection algorithm.
Thing about it is, I thought about this too.. What is out that your phone can't do? It can run all the latest apps, and will even be able to support gingerbread. You could have a 5ghz phone, but what good will it do? The 1/4 second that it would be quicker would not be noticeable.
Galaxy S. Maybe the next version will include the P, so it will have a GPS~
Slow down??? Hell no! Speed up with new devices already. And the Vibrant is just fine. I use it, it has an awesome screen, and new updates get uploaded on XDA almost on a daily basis. And I love watching new phones appear. It just means that by the time I get around to another upgrade in about 14 months, the phones at that time will be that much better. So keep innovating, companies, and improving and releasing new phones.
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Ok so the Vibrant is not that old but seems like its forgotten already. Well the whole Galaxy S series! Bs since its only like 4 months old. Makes me mad that android devices get left behind so fast just to be replaced so quick. Not everyone can buy a new android device every week. I love my Vibrant but this crap makes me mad! Come on SLOW down with android devices already. Just my 2 cents! And no im not a fan boy. Just wanted to get this off my mind. Thanks a million!
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Has anyone noticed the multitude of G2 ads everywhere? Seems like HTC is really pushing the advertising with that phone...i dont understand because i have messed with the phone and i dont think its really that good. any agree?
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Please tell me your not mad that technology is advancing. Really? Is it such a bad thing? Nobody is forcing you to go out and buy the newest, fastest and greatest device. Personally I think while the vibrant may lack in 2.2 and some other things like flash and a 4.3" screen or HSPA+ it more than makes up for in MONSTER graphics computing, overall speed, a beautiful 4" SAMOLED screen and a camera that takes pretty amazing pics. I did expect better support from samsung considering the phone is across all carriers However I did buy the phone as is so I cant complain too much. it still holds its own against any other device out right now. Plus... The Nexus 2 will basically be a Galaxy S so we should see easy porting to our devices once gingerbread is released and android 3.0.
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What exactly are you talking about. No one is complaining about technology advancing. People are complaining mostly (and mostly indirectly) about the rate at which hardware/devices are deprecated and forgotten about.
Lots of people come from a long background in using computers, so they are not used to seeing a 1 year old device become "unsupported" for the most part.
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Hopefully we'll see some advanced implimentation of battery technology to make these handsets last a while with usage. Cause I don't want to see another ZOMG! I got 47 hours of battery.... with everything off.
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Yes, those threads piss me off so much I don't even open battery threads anymore unless it's one I posted in and there's a chance a reply may be directed at me.
Most people with great battery life hardly use the phone. I get 20 hours easy when it sits there in Standby for 18.5 of those hours. Once I start using the phone, the battery is crap. I actually had to uninstall some very useful applications so the battery wouldn't commit suicide.
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Has anyone noticed the multitude of G2 ads everywhere? Seems like HTC is really pushing the advertising with that phone...i dont understand because i have messed with the phone and i dont think its really that good. any agree?
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Yep. Actually noticed the G2 add play 3x tonight. The hinge is crap, but at least the phone works as expected.
A phone doesn't have to be "really that good" to be worth the investment. In many cases, like the Vibrant, when the phone is supposed to be "really that good" it just turns out to be a failed result of overreaching.
I got this phone because it had a lot of storage in it, and it's not like T-Mobile had that many choices when it came to high end smartphones when the Vibrant was released. Some people replying to posts act like the G2, MyTouch4G, HD7, etc. were being sold in stores in July/August.
There was the HD2, and the Vibrant. That's it. The rest of T-Mobile's phones were utter crap.
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yeah, this
only to add: i will actively tell every person i know to avoid samsung like the plague
ball's in your court samsung!
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This right here. What should have been a wonderful experience has been badly sullied by non-existent support.
Buying a phone on a 2 year contract and finding out that the phone isn't even properly supported for 4 months should be enough to piss anyone off.
Seeing where the SGT Dev community is going (nowhere).... I am thinking of selling my 3 week old SGT for cash and saving up for the wifi-Xoom. Anyone in the same boat.... or can rebut my opinion.
I've had the same thought, but since my GF got it for me for X-mas, I'm gonna keep using it, and give it back to her when I can afford a XOOM
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Seeing where the SGT Dev community is going (nowhere).... I am thinking of selling my 3 week old SGT for cash and saving up for the wifi-Xoom. Anyone in the same boat.... or can rebut my opinion.
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I got the tab in January and so far other than gaining root haven’t done anything else with it, the mobility factor is a big plus no question about it, but then I got the xoom on launching day and now I really like them both…so if or when you do it you will appreciate the differences.
I think the Devs have nothing to do with your decision.
I really like the form factor, but performance is an issue with my tab. and with the dev community not really huge, i feel left out of so much with all of these honeycomb tegra2 tablets coming out. I just really feel that Samsung really jumped the gun with the tab. releasing it with no hopes of any real update. Then pretty much rubbing it in our face by releasing 2 more tabs that are far more superior. makes me feel like i made a bad investment by falling for their trickery.
Maybe SGT 8.9 if released with similar specs as of the xoom. and reasonably priced
The tegra processors and Honycomb make our tab look outdated already but IMO the differences are not that big unless one expects too much from a tablet; is not going to replace our laptops yet…as for sami updating my hopes are nonexistent. I was in Germany recently when a saw the tab of a friend of mine, phone working etc I turned green . My biggest beef is with the carriers here in the US that crippled the device.
tegra 2 isnt a device without their own problem
like not able to play 720p mkv movies unless it converted on a specific format
that would be a problem to some people
and is there really a lot of app that dual core ready anyway?
afaik, for normal process, only 1 core would work unless there's a need for the 2nd core?
jumping too soon on honeycomb with limited apps wouldnt make that much of a difference either
and did you say saving up? how long? ^^
if it took months, who knows we already got honeycomb or ice cream on the way on our tab?
honeycomb, i doubt, but the next generation for smartphone definitely gonna be ported to our tab IMO
my main interest in this tab is phone capability, so unless there's another contender out there, i'm still gonna keep this one
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Then pretty much rubbing it in our face by releasing 2 more tabs that are far more superior. makes me feel like i made a bad investment by falling for their trickery.
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I'm trying to see what trickery Samsung have fooled you with here?
The 7" Tab was sold as an Android 2.2 device, with no promise of a Honeycomb update, and that's what they delivered.
We may, or may not get an official upgrade, which may be Honeycomb, or perhaps Gingerbread, but the Tab is still a very capable and useful device as is IMO. I do believe that we will at least get an unofficial Honeycomb ROM once the source code drops.
None of the upcoming tablets can replace my Tab because they are too big for my purposes, though I may end up getting a bigger tablet purely for home use.
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For me its all about size, the 10s are just to big to carry around comfortably. Might as well continue to carry my Dell mini9 laptop. I dont require much from my tab maybe thats why Im happy with the 7.
Remember no matter what you buy it has a good 6 months of obsolescence built in
I think most devs wait for the honeycomb source... no one wants a broken sdk port on an expensive device...
As soon as HC hits aosp I'll contribute developing.
And the xoom community won't move very fast with development for the first six months either. And with that price, probably not much development after that.
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And the xoom community won't move very fast with development for the first six months either. And with that price, probably not much development after that.
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Agreed. The xoom may be "developer friendly" but it is way too expensive to mess around with.. the galaxy tab gets cheaper and cheaper and will attract more devs too over time.
Why are we comparing the Tab and the Xoom? Two totally different niches. Anyone buying a Tab should know what they are getting, and most that do are getting them for a reason. 7 inches, and a solid product with the full Android Market without having to push it onto the device.
I have three different 7 inch tablets right now (had a 4th, but the Dell Streak 7 is dismal) and the Galaxy Tab is BY FAR the best of the three. The NookColor is fun, and is running dual-boot Honeycomb (port from sdk) and froyo. It's overclocked to 1.1Ghz and is primarily used by my wife as an e-reader (which is what B&N intended), though she likes firing up Angry Birds, etc.
The Archos 70 Internet Tablet is running 2.2.1..and is slim and can handle just about ANY media thrown it's way. Archos is a leader in Media devices, having created the HDD portable Music player before anyone else (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archos)...including Apple. It's hands down the best for watching movies. However it's flimsy and buggy...Archos sucks at support, truly. Plus, there's not much in the way of accessories for it. I had the 10.1 also...but sold it.
My Tab gets the most use...as I swap my phone's sim into it quite frequently. And it handles pretty much everything I want it to do. Out of the 3, theres no comparison as to my satisfaction.
If I wanted another 10" Tablet...and wanted Honeycomb right now, I STILL would not get the Xoom. I can afford it, but that doesn't mean I want to plunk down $800 on something obviously rushed out of production. Too many things wrong with this early adopter device.
Here's to hoping the incoming 8.9' Galaxy Tab has some of the kinks worked out...cuz I'm gonna pounce on it right away. 10.1" prolly not, the form factor just too large for my usage.
Whatever some people get, they will NEVER be satisfied
hehe...truly, and that's why my wife calls me a gadget whore...just have to have em all. Could be worse in her eyes, at least I'm loyal to her
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Seeing where the SGT Dev community is going (nowhere).... I am thinking of selling my 3 week old SGT for cash and saving up for the wifi-Xoom. Anyone in the same boat.... or can rebut my opinion.
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If you bought a tablet based on the dev community then you were wrong to do that in the first place. You buy something for what it is, not what it may be based on some random people messing around with roms.
I can't see how a 10" Xoom could possibly be a replacement for the 7" SGT. One you can carry around with you, use in your car, act as a backup phone, and the other is mostly a stay at home couch device. Personally I think the Xoom is a bit of a let down on things it should be better at - like playing high bitrate movies. SGT blows it away on that score. The SGT build and screen is also very high quality. As good as my iPad 1 (which I've not really touched since the SGT came along. Never mind how I've come to despise the Apple lock-in methodology...).
Honeycomb looks like it will be a great update when the bugs are ironed out, but Froyo (maybe Gingerbread soon) on the SGT currently makes more sense as the device really is closer to a phone than a tablet (and I'm personally happy that it is). Ice Cream Sandwich looks like it will be the natural OS upgrade for this device, as it will combine Honeycomb UI changes with smartphone functionality. Whether Samsung will release it for the SGT in the coming months is anyone's guess, but for now I'm rocking the Tab. For a couch device I'll see what the Galaxy Tab 10.1 is like (hopefully they'll find a fix for the video snafu), but none of the Tegra 2 SoC based tablets are wowing me at the moment.
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hehe...truly, and that's why my wife calls me a gadget whore...just have to have em all. Could be worse in her eyes, at least I'm loyal to her
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I'm one too. I hide some from my wife too, so that makes me some kind of addict! But she uses the RAZR we got many years ago.
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I'm one too. I hide some from my wife too, so that makes me some kind of addict! But she uses the RAZR we got many years ago.
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Lol...not mine, she's become a gadget snob. Though she won't admit it, she's glad to be cutting edge. I see it when her girlfriends drool over the cool gadgets she totes around, lmao. We'll go get coffee, and she will look to see who noticed her pretty NookColor while she's reading and surfing the internets.
So you're selling a device because people aren't modding it? IMHO that's a ridiculous reason to sell this amazing piece of tech.
And im guessing one main reason is Honeycomb because, lets face it, its what everyone wants in a tablet. Then why not buy a Nook? You complain lack of development, the Nook Honeycomb port is better than anything they'll ever do with the Xoom.
Still, just my opinion. I'm keeping my Tab until it dies, then ill get another one.
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and..truly one of these days someone WILL put out an Android device that doesn't need modding! Might be 3 years from now...with 8 core cpu & AirWave connectivity (5+TB wireless connection passed through our existing electrical cables that are strung on the poles...or passed through now vacated VHF / UHF signals...yeah, I can dream BIG!)
But you will only be able to get 3g data or 2g+ voice.
I keep reading post about people being "scared" that acer isn't going to update as fast as they would like. Or their is no Restore yet, bootloaders and other minor annoyances.
One thing I see is request for USB charging. Will never happen, the Acer's dual 3650mah batteries would never get charged under the .5 load that a usb port can supply, I doubt a usb port would even be able to turn the machine on. A quick look at the ac adapter shows it's putting out 12v and 1.5amp and that's capable of charging my machine from about 25% to 100% in about 2 hours. Thats very respectable in my eyes since I can run a full 10-12 hours with really moderate to heavy use (Video's/Music/Games) wifi always on and screen set to auto brightness.
Besides I didn't buy my acer for the software that it came with, I bought it because of the hardware. The Xoom Asus and Acer are pretty much twins as far as respective hardware. If your going to nit pick something, the xoom's SD card doesnt even function, the acer's does. And the Asus transformer lacks USB host all together if I understand correctly, I can't begin to imagine the fun things that could be done when the dev's start tweaking the kernel and making 3rd party apps as well that are capable of using both usb ports on the A500, esp if the mini usb is capable of being switched on as a host as well.. (god i wish i could program my ideas)
As far as the locked boot loader issue goes, it'll get unlocked, as well as recovery, it will come. Even if Acer decided to be a complete ass and never reaveal any flaws in their code base, someone will get it accomplished.
I got the HTC inspire as soon as it was released for AT&T, no recovery, locked bootloader. I lurked on the fourms and saw a mirror of the exact same thing here, i'm scared... im returning mine for this, this or that. Now look at the inspire; there are tons of rom's, and dev support is flourshing.
I'm staying with my A500. I've had it 1 week this Friday, and my until has had no battery drain issues, gps or any other bad issues I've read others having. i have rooted mine, renamed phone / telephony .apk > .bak, and it did help battery some. For the most part I wonder what some of these people are running in the background. (even live wallpapers can seriously strain the battery with the device idle. A good example is the Asus water live wallpaper that has been hacked to work with the A500)
My biggest problem with mine is the market refusing to download and install apps I find until I kill the MyApps service and task, then it works for a few downloads, then refuses again..
I can't see returning something with fairly minor software annoyances that will eventually get fixed anyway. Now granted I love to get under the hood and tinker (I am not a dev though) I see promise in Acer's future with this tablet.
I really can't justify buying a $599 Xoom when it's spec'ed the same as the acer, and has it's own shortcomings that readily already works with the A500.
Input please?
it's the "hey, look at me look at me look at me" syndrome.
either you buy it, you don't. if you've already got it, you either keep it or you don't.
if you're so scared to drop $450-600 for something then you're never going to be satisfied. me, originally, i bought this to hold me over til the 32gb transformer came out, but the more i play with it--despite it's shortcomings--the more i like it. the screen is really nice, much nicer than i was led to believe due to various "reviews" on the 'net.
it's no ipad screen but then again, what other tablet in this form factor even comes close to the ipad screen?
people need to stop crying so much and learn to live with what they've got. i didn't exactly NEED this tablet, and i could have very well continued living without it so i really don't understand these folks who are just itching to spend money on something just so they can cry about it online.
Acer A500 Ace Enough ?
I think your query is 100% valid. Here in Australia we have the Galaxy Tab 10.1v out but in very short supply, no Xoom yet, so I bought the Acer A500 then got offered a Galaxy but am still waiting for the delivery, I also have an iPad2.
Based on honeycomb alone I like it better than the iOS on the iPad 2, but iOS is really a few years old now and honeycomb is new.
Add in the ACER's native USB that works with drives or keyboards etc, a working microsSD, and the Acer is a force to be dealt with even at more money.
I look forward to the Galaxy but the Acer feels like old hardware with a new operating system, whilst the iPad2 for instance feels like new hardware with an old OS.
Here in oz, I am more concerned at the lag of accessories / cases for anything other than the iPad2
The only hardware issue I have is that it doesn't charge by USB and you get a small residual charge when using it whilst connected to the power
If I was doing it all over again the galaxy tab 10.1v is likely to have been worth waiting for, and might be selling my Acer on eBay less than a week after purchase.
But only if I can get the idea of the working microsSD - not on any tablet yet (but the Xoom should be working in the future) , and USB.. the idea of plugging a usb stick in a tablet is soooo good.
I also find using the Acer as a PDF reader much better than the iPad2 (a big deal for me) and finally I find the bigger bezel and wider viewable screen, better onthe acer than the apple especially when typing.
Live wallpaper is awesome on the acer.
Typing is so much better on the Acer.. iOS 5 has a lot of ground to make up for.
So Galaxy I expect to be better than the Acer, in build quality but not features.
Between the Xoom and the Acer, I do not get the point of the price difference for the Xoom .
Hope that diatribe helps
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In my case I sent it back because I am scared about the Iconia
bootloader is strictly closed at the moment and its
build quality (mine creaked on the right backside just where the border is - heard from few people having the same problem)
and in addition I had the chance to
get a Motorola Xoom at the same price as the Iconia - and because of its
great developer base plus the freedom to customize it in any way
I have choosen the Xoom about the Iconia.
On The Fence
I'm concerned about a few things but nothing major:
1. The "wobbly" charging pin failing once I'm out of warranty - I've had this kind of charging pin on a (admittedly) crappy Archos and returned it to BB.
2. The lack of accessories
The software doesn't bother me since I rooted (easiest root I ever did) the devs will ultimately prevail - what does bother me is if the devs lose interest - then we're dead in the water.
...Probably because people aren't getting the attention from the public they thought they would from buying a tablet. I figure Apple sold so many for that reason...
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I keep reading post about people being "scared" that acer isn't going to update as fast as they would like. Or their is no Restore yet, bootloaders and other minor annoyances.
Input please?
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When you drop $450 on a device on impulse, you look for reasons to take it back. Plain and simple. I believe a majority of people purchasing the Acer A500 were looking forward to the Transformer. When that didn't come (properly, anyway) they hurriedly got the A500 on impulse because it was available.
I think we all know how impulse purchases go. We practically sit there and look for reasons to return the device because we know it's something that we didn't REALLY think through thoroughly and I suppose the responsible part of our psyche becomes hyperactive. Everything and anything becomes a problem and we start seeing issues that aren't really there (not saying this is true of everyone).
The people who returned their A500s are likely serial returners, ie: people who regularly impulse buy and return stuff and between the Galaxy Tab 10.1 and the other Honeycomb tablets coming in June, there's going to be plenty fodder for them to get through before they finally settle on a device. There's nothing wrong with that as it's their money and they should spend it how they see fit. There's also the fact that some people are genuinely having software or hardware issues and simply lost confidence in the device.
So why are people returning it? It's all relative. Some people have/had hardware issues. Some are having software issues that they'd rather not wait to see fixed. And some are looking for something "better" to come along down the line.
i took mine back for more than a few reasons
the bulk, it was uncomfortable to hold
the short charging cable
the weird dot grid on the screen
and lastly not knowing how acer was going to handle updates
the biggest reason, the battery life
i liked the device it is just as fast as the xoom, the iconia is a good device but just wasn't for me.
i hope acer does you all that still have it right with the updates
I won't be returning mine. I love this device. I've been on Android for a little over two years and have seen devices come and go. This device does have some flaws like the short charging cable and the strong solid fact that it isn't the Transformer. To be honest why does everyone want the the Transformer over the Iconia? Because it has a keyboard dock with an extended battery plus USB function for an additional 150$? To me thats a waste. Or that fact that no one knows how Acer will handle the Android updates? Okay, that's valid but what about ASUS, they are still unknown to the Android arena. Maybe the dots on the screen that are on all touch screen devices like the Transformer and Xoom are the reasons. Maybe one day the very small development team will stop doing such? So download the Android SDK and have at it. The lack of accessories is a big reason, give it time the device just hit the shelves. There are probably millions more and more to come. I just don't get it, this is a very good device that can do practically the same things as all the other devices. The other reason I'm not returning it is the fact that at first I wanted the Transformer but the more I started to contrast the device instead of comparing, I started seeing that the Iconia does in fact offer a little bit more to it users but it is up the the users to decide.
Maybe those that are so scared should stick to buying APPLE products , dont worry Steve Jobs will decide for you what you need and when you need it!
My god Ive never seen so many babies!
I thought it was bad in the Windows Phone 7 forum , but in here its even worse ,the "if I dont get my updates I'm telling mommy" crowd is really annoying!
Maybe its because I was around when the first PCs and Macs came about ,maybe thats why Im more patient , I like to figure it out myself , I hate products that are already "Made" Like the Ipad, nothing to do with it, most of the people in here need an ipad if they want a tablet , they dont have to put any sweat into it!
To all the devs way to go , Im pretty sure if they just gave up because the bootloader wasnt available the Iconia would never make it, none of these Android tablet would make it!
I have to say this forum is the same as the Xoom with everyone second guessing the device, well I had the Xoom, infact I had two Xooms, the first one had wifi problems that developed over time and it eventually took anywhere from 30 seconds to one minute to connect to my wifi.
I had the second one up until yesterday when it completely froze up and nothing would help it. I did a factory reset and everything, finally after a hour setting turned off, I turned it on and it did come back up but the problem's continued with the wifi not working, and the screen became unresponsive. To me the Xoom with it's nonworking Micro SD and all of the other problem's it had was just not worth $589.99 at all, and that was just the wifi only version.
As for all the people complaining about how heavy the Acer is well you have not had a Xoom in your hands, this thing is not heavy at all, I purchased this right after I returned my Xoom to Amazon yesterday and this is a delight to hold next to the Xoom, I was waiting for the Toshiba tab but after reading many things about it and the use of their own market feature I decided to forgo that one and as for Samsung well I tried that one when AT&T sold it for $650.00 when it came out the very first time and all my downloaded apps kept disappearing from it every time I would turn it on. Was told it was a known problem but had no fix for it, both from AT&T and Samsung, needless to say I got rid of it!!
As for the little dots on the screen that the one guy took his Acer back over, all I can say is WOW, I have the exact same dot's on my Inspire, they are sensors that are built into the screen for better touch response!!!!!
Sounds like most share the OP's sentiment, myself included. Yes, I thought I wanted the Asus, but when I did a comparison, the Acer was superior. I bought the device because I was already an Android junkie, thanks to my Evo (CM7-powered). Can you say wireless tether? I knew you could.
I wanted a larger form factor for use at the office, and it gets a workout. I have my Exchange email and my Office documents - perfect for the manager type that I am. Having an instant-on device that I can use for meeting notes is something I've wanted for a long time (yeah, a pen and paper works, but I tend to lose those notes).
Yes, it's nice to play Angry Birds, too. The HDMI connection to my 60-inch LED television makes that experience almost religious.
Having a rooted device is a plus, because that brings Titanium Backup into play, and I find that very valuable.
Add in Pandora, my Music (Google Music this week, too!), and movies on the device just completes the package for me - it's an excellent travel device.
There's quite a bit of nit-picking over features, but what it boils down to is this: do you USE the device? Does it work for YOU? If so, great. If not, return it, try something else. If it's better, please let us know.
Then check back in a year, and let us know how it's going. Technology moves too fast to try to keep up with the latest features. Pick your poison, and make the most of it. Regret is for sissies.
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Sounds like most share the OP's sentiment, myself included. Yes, I thought I wanted the Asus, but when I did a comparison, the Acer was superior. I bought the device because I was already an Android junkie, thanks to my Evo (CM7-powered). Can you say wireless tether? I knew you could.
I wanted a larger form factor for use at the office, and it gets a workout. I have my Exchange email and my Office documents - perfect for the manager type that I am. Having an instant-on device that I can use for meeting notes is something I've wanted for a long time (yeah, a pen and paper works, but I tend to lose those notes).
Yes, it's nice to play Angry Birds, too. The HDMI connection to my 60-inch LED television makes that experience almost religious.
Having a rooted device is a plus, because that brings Titanium Backup into play, and I find that very valuable.
Add in Pandora, my Music (Google Music this week, too!), and movies on the device just completes the package for me - it's an excellent travel device.
There's quite a bit of nit-picking over features, but what it boils down to is this: do you USE the device? Does it work for YOU? If so, great. If not, return it, try something else. If it's better, please let us know.
Then check back in a year, and let us know how it's going. Technology moves too fast to try to keep up with the latest features. Pick your poison, and make the most of it. Regret is for sissies.
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I have to say this forum is the same as the Xoom with everyone second guessing the device, well I had the Xoom, infact I had two Xooms, the first one had wifi problems that developed over time and it eventually took anywhere from 30 seconds to one minute to connect to my wifi.
I had the second one up until yesterday when it completely froze up and nothing would help it. I did a factory reset and everything, finally after a hour setting turned off, I turned it on and it did come back up but the problem's continued with the wifi not working, and the screen became unresponsive. To me the Xoom with it's nonworking Micro SD and all of the other problem's it had was just not worth $589.99 at all, and that was just the wifi only version.
As for all the people complaining about how heavy the Acer is well you have not had a Xoom in your hands, this thing is not heavy at all, I purchased this right after I returned my Xoom to Amazon yesterday and this is a delight to hold next to the Xoom, I was waiting for the Toshiba tab but after reading many things about it and the use of their own market feature I decided to forgo that one and as for Samsung well I tried that one when AT&T sold it for $650.00 when it came out the very first time and all my downloaded apps kept disappearing from it every time I would turn it on. Was told it was a known problem but had no fix for it, both from AT&T and Samsung, needless to say I got rid of it!!
As for the little dots on the screen that the one guy took his Acer back over, all I can say is WOW, I have the exact same dot's on my Inspire, they are sensors that are built into the screen for better touch response!!!!!
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Good to see over here Moe Well, I too am keeping my Acer. It's too early in the game to be worried about updates and/or recovery. I "MAY" consider the Galaxy Tab as my return policy ends on June 7th, the day before it's released. The micro sd and usb are biggies for me. I also have to see what the pricepoint of the Galaxy Tab will be like. I'm still recovering from my Captivate though....
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Good to see over here Moe Well, I too am keeping my Acer. It's too early in the game to be worried about updates and/or recovery. I "MAY" consider the Galaxy Tab as my return policy ends on June 7th, the day before it's released. The micro sd and usb are biggies for me. I also have to see what the pricepoint of the Galaxy Tab will be like. I'm still recovering from my Captivate though....
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Great to see that you are here lrs421, with all the great help from you and Bubby to get my Inspire rooted it is great to hear from you again, well if I ever need any help with this thing at least there is one person I know I can count on. I am not sure I will ever try a Samsung tab again since I has such trouble with that first Galaxy tab I had and the worthless Samsung tech support!!! I still have a eye on that Toshiba tab, I just cannot get over wanting it, kind of like a itch I cannot scratch!!!! Plus a removable battery is another thing that sounds good also!!!
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Great to see that you are here lrs421, with all the great help from you and Bubby to get my Inspire rooted it is great to hear from you again, well if I ever need any help with this thing at least there is one person I know I can count on. I am not sure I will ever try a Samsung tab again since I has such trouble with that first Galaxy tab I had and the worthless Samsung tech support!!! I still have a eye on that Toshiba tab, I just cannot get over wanting it, kind of like a itch I cannot scratch!!!! Plus a removable battery is another thing that sounds good also!!!
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No prob I'm still learning alot about this tab as well.
This is my point exactly regarding the galaxy tab and "others". I see these threads popping up a lot lately about people keeping or returning tabs, waiting or upgrading, etc, etc. I've spent a lot of time in the Galaxy, ASUS, G Tablet and Xoom forums, in each one it's all the same; some happy people and some not so happy people. IMO, the perfect android tablet simply doesn't exist yet. Futhermore, we have to give these things a little time to evolve, it's only been a few weeks and in the hands of a few devs, albeit capable devs. I've rooted and hacked my Inspire to within an inch of it's life so I really don't mind running the Acer stock until things get sorted out. Those of you considering jumping ship, spend some time in the other forums and see what I mean.
I was torn between the Xoom and the Acer having returned my third transformer because of build quality issues (its a long story).
So I spent about 20 mins playing with each one in PCWorld (uk) today.
I have to say, I have come down on the side of the Acer for a number of reasons, yes there is the obvious ones of microsd, usb connectivity and hosting and of course the fact that it's about 30 quid cheaper in the UK.
But also the form factor was a big influence in my choice. Yes, I know it's a bit heavy but that extra frame real estate is a big help in holding the device in one hand.
I am a big guy with pretty big hands, and when holding the Xoom in one hand, because the bezel is so narrow, my thumb is actually on the touchscreen activating what ever is underneath it, the wider bezel on the Acer means this doesn't happen. Plenty of space for my thumb allowing for a wider holding position, and (because of something to do with fulcrums) as far as I was concerned, greater comfort.
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No prob I'm still learning alot about this tab as well.
This is my point exactly regarding the galaxy tab and "others". I see these threads popping up a lot lately about people keeping or returning tabs, waiting or upgrading, etc, etc. I've spent a lot of time in the Galaxy, ASUS, G Tablet and Xoom forums, in each one it's all the same; some happy people and some not so happy people. IMO, the perfect android tablet simply doesn't exist yet. Futhermore, we have to give these things a little time to evolve, it's only been a few weeks and in the hands of a few devs, albeit capable devs. I've rooted and hacked my Inspire to within an inch of it's life so I really don't mind running the Acer stock until things get sorted out. Those of you considering jumping ship, spend some time in the other forums and see what I mean.
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I agree, I just picked up the Acer yesterday because it is available and a good product, but there is alot of ppl returning it hoping for better. I spent alot of time watching the Asus boards and it's the same over there, theres also alot of problems with the tranformer that Asus definately could have fixed before releasing it, and you can't get one. I am hoping that shear numbers of units sold will help out the Acer here, as the general majority of dev support seems to be heavily wieghted towards the transformer. I'm still not sure that ill keep the Acer, but once we get recovery I think ill be very comfortable keeping it.
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...Probably because people aren't getting the attention from the public they thought they would from buying a tablet. I figure Apple sold so many for that reason...
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I got married to a porn star the same day I bought my tablet man, they're chick magnets.
On a more serious note, I dunno, it's a solid device for me. There are issues, and I think forums generally tend to be populated with the more vocal(obviously) people as well as bringing about mob mentality. If the Xoom all of a sudden dropped to the same price at Bestbuy, I might consider an exchange, sure. Motorola has a proven support record for tabs. Acer is an unknown, and their PC's were never that great IMO either.
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Hows the hdmi working? Havent tried that sound good though
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Perfectly. Just plug it in and go.
So like.. The Acer Iconia Tab A500 is a amazing built tablet and all but the little problems that acer has are horrible.. As in sleep wake/off, updates, battery drain by a phone app.. And etc.. Now im thinking about all of this and im thinking do any of you think it would be a good idea to return and wait til the new samsung or toshiba come out? Tomorrow i should be in work and i will be asking my manager if they got a release date on the samsung or toshiba tablet.. Since i work at staples and we should be getting the samsung nd toshiba from what i know.. Now im wondering everybody explain why acer should be kept because from the prices samsung is only a 50$ difference thats not a lot.. So lets hear it? I think the updates and bootloader being locked are my two biggest concerns about this tablet because im a crackflasher on my phone i wanna do the same on my tablet =]
AH! ****.. Somebody please move this to general i thought i was in the general section..
I returned mine today
Loved the tablet bur dreampt of unlocked recovery. I miss it already, hefty tab but so many ports
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Yeah i know im thinking about returning or keeping.. I need more input come on =]
Return it. Then second-guess your next purchase...
It's technology. It's a moving target. Remember your first blu-ray player?
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The will always be "the next best thing" the samsung is nice and thin but lacks ports. The toshiba is a bit of an unknown at the moment, and afaik this is there first step into the android os and cell/mobile market, so even more bugs are likely. I've had 2 Acer android cellphones, and there updates and stability was superb. In a few weeks we will have 3.1 and I'm quite sure most if not all bugs will be fixed. Just look at the bugs the xoom had when it was released...... not even a working sd card. And now there quite happy with there little tablet. The iconia is still brand spankin new, let Acer iron out the bugs....... they will
Yea but the stupid.. Phone and Tele app that eat battery nd mess up updates is freaking retarded.. The toshiba should be coming early june i could return my tablet for a while since i work at the store i bought it from and my manager will take it back so lets see.. Im trying to give Acer a chance since i own a Acer netbook and Computer and both are great.. Never bought a Acer phone but the tablet is built amazingly just what they did with software is horrible..
I was at Best Buy today bringing my A500 for an exchange for another A500 due to the HDMI port was kinda loose, and when touching the cable the pictures/video would go off on the monitor. I'm digging the Acer..
My cousin has an Asus transformer 16gb .... I made fun of him when I pointed out that his Asus didn't have flash, a low resolution front cam ... OH , when I was there, in the same spot where they stock the tablets, I saw at least three or four Motorola XOOM..... all was open box.
IMO .. all I care for is specs...and it seems that majority of the new tablets including the acer has really close in hardware specs, besides cosmetic.
The only thing giving me pause is lack of recovery. I'm used to being able to fix stuff myself. If tis thing goes tits up I have to rely on my retailer to take care of me.
Hmmm...you think anyone from acer is reading this? Love the tablet but hate their support.
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Hmmm...you think anyone from acer is reading this? Love the tablet but hate their support.
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You never know on the galaxy s forum a guy named samsung jhon who worked for samsung was responsible for checking out the xda forum, and trying to keep the dev community happy. Of course he was chased out of the forum by all the haters and trolls, but it goes to show this little forum of ours can make a difference if we just keep voicing our discontent about the lack of recovery/locked bootloader.
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Return it. Then second-guess your next purchase...
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lmao. So true.
Personally i'm glad the 'issues' are only a little battery drain (still unsubstanciated i might add), the screen popping on for a few seconds maybe once or twice.... what where the other ones? "etc" issues? Yeah, etc issues... whatever those are...
I didn't drop $500 for a toy. I bought a tool and as far as tools go, it meets and exceeds my expectations. Why so many people see fit to hop on and off the train, i think, says more about their personality than the tablet and whatever issues there might be (real or otherwise).
Go ahead, OP, get ride of it. It doesn't want you either. (;
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You never know on the galaxy s forum a guy named samsung jhon who worked for samsung was responsible for checking out the xda forum, and trying to keep the dev community happy. Of course he was chased out of the forum by all the haters and trolls, but it goes to show this little forum of ours can make a difference if we just keep voicing our discontent about the lack of recovery/locked bootloader.
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Lol we chased samsung john away with pitchforks and torches. That whole thing was a total sham.
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lmao. So true.
Personally i'm glad the 'issues' are only a little battery drain (still unsubstanciated i might add), the screen popping on for a few seconds maybe once or twice.... what where the other ones? "etc" issues? Yeah, etc issues... whatever those are...
I didn't drop $500 for a toy. I bought a tool and as far as tools go, it meets and exceeds my expectations. Why so many people see fit to hop on and off the train, i think, says more about their personality than the tablet and whatever issues there might be (real or otherwise).
Go ahead, OP, get ride of it. It doesn't want you either. (;
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Lol.. The way you put it it sounds horrible.. Lol but no the etc i mean locked bootloader, no recovery, you cant delete specfic apps because if you do and try to restore you get a brick, updates mostly international, and **** like that the acer is built good and i know theres always something new around the corner because i have had android since the g1 days and getting a new phone like every 3 months i know about the new things lmfao so im just thinking on if acer will make it better in the next couple weeks because if they do and they fix everything i would happily stay with acer because right now i dont want to risk anything on the tablet try to do anything because i know theres no way of returning it to stock at the moment if i eff something up i just want that satisfaction that if i **** something up i can fix it myself and not call acer and send it out and have them fix it..
I hear ya.
I don't consider the locked bootloader, personal recovery option and inability to remove pre-installed apps as 'issues'. And, really, it isn't. At least, not for those of us who just use it as it was intended to be used.
Yes, the a500 needs a little tweaking, however it's mostly Honeycomb and all minor. Unlike some tabs that have glaring hardware issues, the a500 leads the pack in quality and consistency. IMO, anyways (; (sure I'm biased but I have played with other tabs)
Don't get me wrong, I see the value in being able to recover on your own (if something goes awry) but in the end, it went that way because of user error (or bad mod, whatever the case may be) and because it was unlocked / rooted - It's no fault of Acer and it shouldn't be held against them or the tablet. Like all other tablet manufacturers, they wouldn't support that even if they did release the key. And in the end, all we'd really get out of it all are more people bricking their tabs, Acer getting screwed over by people lying and returning their tabs - all for the ability to what? Delete or rename a few files? Get back maybe, 100mb on a 16gb tab with microSD and USB?
If some mod came out that flipped HC on it's head and created a user experience that surpasses all others, then, and only then, would I ever consider rooting (ROM hacking etc ((if that ever becomes possible)) Until then, what few and silly 'root req' apps there are and minuscule returns one gets are far too insignificant for me.
But, you know. In the end, it about what you want. If modability is a prerequisite, you probably should have waited. If you take it back, you might want to consider waiting until you know for a fact that all those features are available in the next tablet du-jour.
I get what ur saying.. But heres the thing ive played with the xoom and asus and everything there built great as well just those little features that i wont use like usb support are the only thing missing on those other tablets.. I like root because it can help me get rid of the stuff i dont use and is running the background.. also the custom roms are usually a lot better than what the manufacturs usually release with the hardware.. So idk im gonna wait til the new thing comes out and see what the developers do with it.. Since i only had the tablet for a week nd 2 days.. I have a while to return =]
return it, by the looks of your phone list seems like your indecisive(not trying to be mean) the wake up issue is not a big deal and will get fixed. i get over a days use with heavy use.
if this tab gets regular support will flashing new ROMS really be necessary. i mean on HTC hero chirst that thing needed support there was no way to make it through a two year contract with it.
Now my nexus s theres support on here for it and its great. but out of the box it works just fine
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return it, by the looks of your phone list seems like your indecisive(not trying to be mean) the wake up issue is not a big deal and will get fixed. i get over a days use with heavy use.
if this tab gets regular support will flashing new ROMS really be necessary. i mean on HTC hero chirst that thing needed support there was no way to make it through a two year contract with it.
Now my nexus s theres support on here for it and its great. but out of the box it works just fine
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Lol i dont mind if your being mean I'm not gonna get a fit over internet lmao but anyways its not that I'm indecisive its just i like the most new thing out on the market I'm just a big fan of all the new technology.. And i think flashing roms and seeing what you can do with the power that's available is great it just makes everything you do so much better that's the only reason i want the unlocked everything and i think with what the people are actually trying here at XDA is amazing because from the way things are going i think they might have a recovery soon =]..
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Lol i dont mind if your being mean I'm not gonna get a fit over internet lmao but anyways its not that I'm indecisive its just i like the most new thing out on the market I'm just a big fan of all the new technology.. And i think flashing roms and seeing what you can do with the power that's available is great it just makes everything you do so much better that's the only reason i want the unlocked everything and i think with what the people are actually trying here at XDA is amazing because from the way things are going i think they might have a recovery soon =]..
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Don't get me wrong but i think switching hardware that often and just flashing ROMs and software made by other people is called consumerism. Ahum. What's the point of switching the device unless you've explored all its hardware, know all electronic details like chips used and gpios/clocks or unless it's just too old to run software you need for work?
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Don't get me wrong but i think switching hardware that often and just flashing ROMs and software made by other people is called consumerism. Ahum. What's the point of switching the device unless you've explored all its hardware, know all electronic details like chips used and gpios/clocks or unless it's just too old to run software you need for work?
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+1, I only wish I were more development savvy side to help out...
I'm merely a lowly Oracle/MSSQL server, EMC SAN?NAS admin.....
Well i have no idea why i switch so much maybe i just like that new phone/tablet/computer feeling lol but hey you guys do put up some good points so lets see what happens..
Maybe a general rant, but I am extremely disappointed in Samsung. I bought the Note the day it came out, at top dollar, international version. I was fully expecting a stable ICS update, and much sooner than it came out. But fine, it came out a few months later than I expected it. And ever since the update, it just been downhill. My battery life has gone from 15 hours to 8 hours(same usage profile, same apps), camera freezing, etc. I was running stock.
I have hacked in the past, had an inspire and put ROMs every few weeks, so yes, I can go install better battery stats, and run CPU spy, find out about wakelocks and run CPU spy, and spend a whole bunch of time debugging it, or run AOSP etc. But really, do I have to do this for a device that is 4 months old and is supposedly the "top device" of Samsung? Cant they test the upgrades on their phones in a much better manner? The only thing I miss from my iphone 3G days (since I switched to Android) is the timely, and very well tested updates (and the backup restore of everything, one click, seamless). I never had a problem, and if I did, it was resolved very quickly, usually. I wont go back to iOS again, ever. But I really want an Android other than Nexus (I like TW, I started liking Sense a lot too), and have updates on time, well tested.
Is that really too much to ask? If Samsung is expecting to be a top Android phone manufacturer, is that too much to ask? To be very honest, I am extremely disappointed with Samsung, very very disappointed. I had friends with the S2 who were similarly disappointed, and I was really hoping that things would work better this time around. I guess Ill have to go onto rooting and try different roms, but my point is, I dont have to do all this. Just extremely disappointed with Samsung. I am really hoping Google does something with good with Motorola. Really really hoping.
Same here. Not to mention the superbrick bug which is known for what ... 3 months or so ? Other than Samsung is working on it, nada, zit, zero ... I guess we are lucky for having XDA because without it I'd be stuck with an expensive phone I'm afraid to even update through the official software let alone put roms on ( I thought that was the main strength of Android btw ( extreme mod-ability) ?
I was also considering in buying a tablet, Android tablet, Samsung tablet. Now ? Neh, I will wait and see what the Infinity looks like in the real world and if I don't like that I'll get an iPad. I used to love Samsung but their late attitude is very suggestive : we've got your 600 euro, **** off now.
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Same here. Not to mention the superbrick bug which is known for what ... 3 months or so ? Other than Samsung is working on it, nada, zit, zero ... I guess we are lucky for having XDA because without it I'd be stuck with an expensive phone I'm afraid to even update through the official software let alone put roms on ( I thought that was the main strength of Android btw ( extreme mod-ability) ?
I was also considering in buying a tablet, Android tablet, Samsung tablet. Now ? Neh, I will wait and see what the Infinity looks like in the real world and if I don't like that I'll get an iPad. I used to love Samsung but their late attitude is very suggestive : we've got your 600 euro, **** off now.
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Its just an attitude I cannot condone. I might not like a lot of things about Apple, but they do a very good job with trying to keep up their commitments and making devices( atleast one generation before) that work according to spec. If not, I can walk into a damn store and get it serviced within my warranty. Samsung does nothing. Running contests for best apps and hiring the best developers does not get Samsung anywhere. 700 bucks, and I have a phone which I cannot use a lot without making sure i have a charger around. I dont really knew if Samsung is even reading this, or even if they care(as you said, they have our money now we can **** off), but I am hoping enough people complaining makes some bit of a difference to them to make even current (4 month old users, ****ing insane) a priority and not just go on and do the next exciting thing. If nothing changes in any manufacturer, I might do the unthinkable andmove back to iOS. With two jobs,when do I find time to be sitting and looking at custom roms and wakelocks and preventing incrementing binary counters just to get the battery life I was promised?. Without xda, I would be dead, really, very helpful people who can answer questions and point me in the right direction.
If it just works all day, I might just make the switch back one day. Scr** Samsung.
Well, this is usually what you get with a true multitasking OS. The problem you are having is mainly on usage time (from your description). As Uncle Ben said it, "with great power comes great responsibility". Its Android design problem and not totally Samsung fault in this issue, though there are things that I would like Samsung to fix. For FCs with applications, a factory reset or wiping the application data normally would solve the problem. Again, this is the OS issue. Sigh...
As you can see, most smart phone actually last about 5 hours per charge. You extend the usage time by suspending the phone. The thing is, a multitasking OS allows applications to run in background and those applications might be preventing the phone from getting suspended. If you never install any 3rd party applications on your phone, you won't likely get this problem, thus the reason I quote Uncle Ben. Microsoft learnt this with Windows Mobile, thus Window Phone now works like IOS where applications sent to background are suspended.
Don't get me wrong. I'm not protecting Samsung. If you own a Sony Ericsson, Motorola or HTC, you'll be there in their respective thread renting the same thing.
Just go back to Gingerbread, what's so great about ICS?
Oh boy, not another "samsung sucks, im going to buy apple" thread...
"I was also considering in buying a tablet, Android tablet, Samsung tablet. Now ? Neh, I will wait and see what the Infinity looks like in the real world and if I don't like that I'll get an iPad. I used to love Samsung but their late attitude is very suggestive : we've got your 600 euro, **** off now."
Sure, the iPad is the best tablet available. It can't do half the things Android does, not to mention Windows 8 tablets in comparison with which, the iPad is just a big mp3 player. But good choice. And no, this is not hate for Apple. I had an iPad, liked it very much, but after a month it turned out that it practically can't do anything...
Cool story. Just won an ipad 3. Set it up and was playing with it. I think the screen sucks and the OS is frigging boring. Sold it on ebay.
I'm more disappointed the Galaxy Nexus got the ban hammer in the US. I refuse to ever use an Apple product.
Same thing here. I bought an iPhone 4S 3 months after I bought my Galaxy S2. Sold the 4S within a week.
There's something about android that once you go android you can't really go back. Well at least for me.
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Well, this is usually what you get with a true multitasking OS. The problem you are having is mainly on usage time (from your description). As Uncle Ben said it, "with great power comes great responsibility". Its Android design problem and not totally Samsung fault in this issue, though there are things that I would like Samsung to fix. For FCs with applications, a factory reset or wiping the application data normally would solve the problem. Again, this is the OS issue. Sigh...
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This is a *****ing thread, keep your facts out of it !
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Cool story. Just won an ipad 3. Set it up and was playing with it. I think the screen sucks and the OS is frigging boring. Sold it on ebay.
I'm more disappointed the Galaxy Nexus got the ban hammer in the US. I refuse to ever use an Apple product.
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While I would agree that the OS is so friggin boring, I CANNOT agree that the screen sucks. I have never seen anyone say that the new iPad's screen sucks, except for you. Just saying,
I will never choose Samsung again.
They are lazy and they are cheap. I had a problem with my logical board and they didn't replace my phone. Now they replaced my logical board and it has deep sleep issues.
Now i have to send my phone for the FOURTH time so i can get anywhere.
They got my money once, yes. Never again....
Their loss....
I would agree an iPhone or iPad is boring but the ease of use is something you can't argue about. It's simple, boring, and friggin' expensive. That's why it's for retards. Sorry apple fanboys but it's the truth
Android 4.9 Marshmallow said:
I will never choose Samsung again.
They are lazy and they are cheap. I had a problem with my logical board and they didn't replace my phone. Now they replaced my logical board and it has deep sleep issues.
Now i have to send my phone for the FOURTH time so i can get anywhere.
They got my money once, yes. Never again....
Their loss....
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That's unfortunate. I have voiced this before and concur with the OP, that no one should HAVE to root or download custom ROMs for a great experience with any Android device, be it from Samsung or any other company.
It's a show of mediocrity by Android and Android phone manufacturers when they place products in the market which truly do not perform without a bunch of optimizations. If this continues, Android will never overtake iOS and any Android device will always be behind an iPhone and an iPad.
Criskelo ICS LQ3 v8, LPT Modem, Speedmod k3-3 kernel, AT&T
I'll never buy a. Samsung again either. I'll get a google or HTC phone.
Samsung feels cheap hardware-wise and more importantly delayed ICS far too long.
Almost in the same boat here.
Android 4.9 Marshmallow said:
I will never choose Samsung again.
They are lazy and they are cheap. I had a problem with my logical board and they didn't replace my phone. Now they replaced my logical board and it has deep sleep issues.
Now i have to send my phone for the FOURTH time so i can get anywhere.
They got my money once, yes. Never again....
Their loss....
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Although i didn't have any motherboard issue, i had the deep sleep issue ever since i upgraded to ICS and i didn't even notice it until recently.
Thanks to XDA members i was able to solve it by turning off the last 4 options in sound settings and unlocking the phone before i unplug it from the wall charger.
The lag in touchwiz launcher for a 700 euro device was not tolerable for me, so i replaced it with ADW EX launcher. You would expect that they would enable gpu acceleration in their launcher with ICS, but anyway.
The worst thing is that mmc_erase bug. I am actually scared to install CM9 because i have one of those 0x19 faulty chips according to the gotbrick app.
No updates to ICS for Greece even though 2 months have passed since DBT users had it, amoled black clipping issues with videos, black spots when you view black images at night (which is no issue according to them) <--- really?
The only option left for me is to get the next nexus device when that comes out, unless it is made by Samsung again (read: volume bug).
The emmc bug in SGN is shame on SAMSUNG, really i'm extremely disappointed. SHAM ON YOU SAMSUNG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
CorruptedSanity said:
I'll never buy a. Samsung again either. I'll get a google or HTC phone.
Samsung feels cheap hardware-wise and more importantly delayed ICS far too long.
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Ah, once you're using Google or HTC phone, you'd say the same thing over in their respective threads. Trust me on this.
incisivekeith said:
That's unfortunate. I have voiced this before and concur with the OP, that no one shouldn't HAVE to root or download custom ROMs for a great experience with any Android device, be it from Samsung or any other company.
It's a show of mediocrity by Android and Android phone manufacturers when they place products in the market which truly do not perform without a bunch of optimizations. If this continues, Android will never overtake iOS and any Android device will always be behind an iPhone and an iPad.
Criskelo ICS LQ3 v8, LPT Modem, Speedmod k3-3 kernel, AT&T
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I've been using ICS stock non-root with great experience, but of course I wanted to use Titanium backup and CIFS, so I root. Is that such option in other OSes? Btw I think all those optimizations are actually placebo effects.
MohElShafei said:
The emmc bug in SGN is shame on SAMSUNG, really i'm extremely disappointed. SHAM ON YOU SAMSUNG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Oh that is calculative risk for Samsung not to rush out the firmware update. Who in the world would a normal user wipe their phone daily, weekly or monthly. A normal user would almost never factory reset the phone. Also, if it did indeed brick the phone, just bring it to your nearest Samsung service centre to get a free mainboard replacement. No warranty? Complain to the consumer association and get a refund.
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NotablyNice said:
Cool story. Just won an ipad 3. Set it up and was playing with it. I think the screen sucks and the OS is frigging boring. Sold it on ebay.
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In what way exactly the ipad screen sucks??
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tfragkos said:
In what way exactly the ipad screen sucks??
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It just sucks compared to my Notes screen. Lot of blotchy colors and no way to change the DPI to something other than what's for people with sight problems. For how much praise it gets, I laughed my ass off.
The ONE thing I did like about the ipad was the minimal battery drain in deep sleep.... Or maybe it's because it's a 11000mAh battery.
Oh the other thing was how much $$ I got for selling it.
If you do not like them and disappointed please just go get something better than that. I do know there is issue with but I like my note and I will go find better way to use this best one rather than complain and crying.