Maybe a general rant, but I am extremely disappointed in Samsung. I bought the Note the day it came out, at top dollar, international version. I was fully expecting a stable ICS update, and much sooner than it came out. But fine, it came out a few months later than I expected it. And ever since the update, it just been downhill. My battery life has gone from 15 hours to 8 hours(same usage profile, same apps), camera freezing, etc. I was running stock.
I have hacked in the past, had an inspire and put ROMs every few weeks, so yes, I can go install better battery stats, and run CPU spy, find out about wakelocks and run CPU spy, and spend a whole bunch of time debugging it, or run AOSP etc. But really, do I have to do this for a device that is 4 months old and is supposedly the "top device" of Samsung? Cant they test the upgrades on their phones in a much better manner? The only thing I miss from my iphone 3G days (since I switched to Android) is the timely, and very well tested updates (and the backup restore of everything, one click, seamless). I never had a problem, and if I did, it was resolved very quickly, usually. I wont go back to iOS again, ever. But I really want an Android other than Nexus (I like TW, I started liking Sense a lot too), and have updates on time, well tested.
Is that really too much to ask? If Samsung is expecting to be a top Android phone manufacturer, is that too much to ask? To be very honest, I am extremely disappointed with Samsung, very very disappointed. I had friends with the S2 who were similarly disappointed, and I was really hoping that things would work better this time around. I guess Ill have to go onto rooting and try different roms, but my point is, I dont have to do all this. Just extremely disappointed with Samsung. I am really hoping Google does something with good with Motorola. Really really hoping.
Same here. Not to mention the superbrick bug which is known for what ... 3 months or so ? Other than Samsung is working on it, nada, zit, zero ... I guess we are lucky for having XDA because without it I'd be stuck with an expensive phone I'm afraid to even update through the official software let alone put roms on ( I thought that was the main strength of Android btw ( extreme mod-ability) ?
I was also considering in buying a tablet, Android tablet, Samsung tablet. Now ? Neh, I will wait and see what the Infinity looks like in the real world and if I don't like that I'll get an iPad. I used to love Samsung but their late attitude is very suggestive : we've got your 600 euro, **** off now.
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Same here. Not to mention the superbrick bug which is known for what ... 3 months or so ? Other than Samsung is working on it, nada, zit, zero ... I guess we are lucky for having XDA because without it I'd be stuck with an expensive phone I'm afraid to even update through the official software let alone put roms on ( I thought that was the main strength of Android btw ( extreme mod-ability) ?
I was also considering in buying a tablet, Android tablet, Samsung tablet. Now ? Neh, I will wait and see what the Infinity looks like in the real world and if I don't like that I'll get an iPad. I used to love Samsung but their late attitude is very suggestive : we've got your 600 euro, **** off now.
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Its just an attitude I cannot condone. I might not like a lot of things about Apple, but they do a very good job with trying to keep up their commitments and making devices( atleast one generation before) that work according to spec. If not, I can walk into a damn store and get it serviced within my warranty. Samsung does nothing. Running contests for best apps and hiring the best developers does not get Samsung anywhere. 700 bucks, and I have a phone which I cannot use a lot without making sure i have a charger around. I dont really knew if Samsung is even reading this, or even if they care(as you said, they have our money now we can **** off), but I am hoping enough people complaining makes some bit of a difference to them to make even current (4 month old users, ****ing insane) a priority and not just go on and do the next exciting thing. If nothing changes in any manufacturer, I might do the unthinkable andmove back to iOS. With two jobs,when do I find time to be sitting and looking at custom roms and wakelocks and preventing incrementing binary counters just to get the battery life I was promised?. Without xda, I would be dead, really, very helpful people who can answer questions and point me in the right direction.
If it just works all day, I might just make the switch back one day. Scr** Samsung.
Well, this is usually what you get with a true multitasking OS. The problem you are having is mainly on usage time (from your description). As Uncle Ben said it, "with great power comes great responsibility". Its Android design problem and not totally Samsung fault in this issue, though there are things that I would like Samsung to fix. For FCs with applications, a factory reset or wiping the application data normally would solve the problem. Again, this is the OS issue. Sigh...
As you can see, most smart phone actually last about 5 hours per charge. You extend the usage time by suspending the phone. The thing is, a multitasking OS allows applications to run in background and those applications might be preventing the phone from getting suspended. If you never install any 3rd party applications on your phone, you won't likely get this problem, thus the reason I quote Uncle Ben. Microsoft learnt this with Windows Mobile, thus Window Phone now works like IOS where applications sent to background are suspended.
Don't get me wrong. I'm not protecting Samsung. If you own a Sony Ericsson, Motorola or HTC, you'll be there in their respective thread renting the same thing.
Just go back to Gingerbread, what's so great about ICS?
Oh boy, not another "samsung sucks, im going to buy apple" thread...
"I was also considering in buying a tablet, Android tablet, Samsung tablet. Now ? Neh, I will wait and see what the Infinity looks like in the real world and if I don't like that I'll get an iPad. I used to love Samsung but their late attitude is very suggestive : we've got your 600 euro, **** off now."
Sure, the iPad is the best tablet available. It can't do half the things Android does, not to mention Windows 8 tablets in comparison with which, the iPad is just a big mp3 player. But good choice. And no, this is not hate for Apple. I had an iPad, liked it very much, but after a month it turned out that it practically can't do anything...
Cool story. Just won an ipad 3. Set it up and was playing with it. I think the screen sucks and the OS is frigging boring. Sold it on ebay.
I'm more disappointed the Galaxy Nexus got the ban hammer in the US. I refuse to ever use an Apple product.
Same thing here. I bought an iPhone 4S 3 months after I bought my Galaxy S2. Sold the 4S within a week.
There's something about android that once you go android you can't really go back. Well at least for me.
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Well, this is usually what you get with a true multitasking OS. The problem you are having is mainly on usage time (from your description). As Uncle Ben said it, "with great power comes great responsibility". Its Android design problem and not totally Samsung fault in this issue, though there are things that I would like Samsung to fix. For FCs with applications, a factory reset or wiping the application data normally would solve the problem. Again, this is the OS issue. Sigh...
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This is a *****ing thread, keep your facts out of it !
NotablyNice said:
Cool story. Just won an ipad 3. Set it up and was playing with it. I think the screen sucks and the OS is frigging boring. Sold it on ebay.
I'm more disappointed the Galaxy Nexus got the ban hammer in the US. I refuse to ever use an Apple product.
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While I would agree that the OS is so friggin boring, I CANNOT agree that the screen sucks. I have never seen anyone say that the new iPad's screen sucks, except for you. Just saying,
I will never choose Samsung again.
They are lazy and they are cheap. I had a problem with my logical board and they didn't replace my phone. Now they replaced my logical board and it has deep sleep issues.
Now i have to send my phone for the FOURTH time so i can get anywhere.
They got my money once, yes. Never again....
Their loss....
I would agree an iPhone or iPad is boring but the ease of use is something you can't argue about. It's simple, boring, and friggin' expensive. That's why it's for retards. Sorry apple fanboys but it's the truth
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I will never choose Samsung again.
They are lazy and they are cheap. I had a problem with my logical board and they didn't replace my phone. Now they replaced my logical board and it has deep sleep issues.
Now i have to send my phone for the FOURTH time so i can get anywhere.
They got my money once, yes. Never again....
Their loss....
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That's unfortunate. I have voiced this before and concur with the OP, that no one should HAVE to root or download custom ROMs for a great experience with any Android device, be it from Samsung or any other company.
It's a show of mediocrity by Android and Android phone manufacturers when they place products in the market which truly do not perform without a bunch of optimizations. If this continues, Android will never overtake iOS and any Android device will always be behind an iPhone and an iPad.
Criskelo ICS LQ3 v8, LPT Modem, Speedmod k3-3 kernel, AT&T
I'll never buy a. Samsung again either. I'll get a google or HTC phone.
Samsung feels cheap hardware-wise and more importantly delayed ICS far too long.
Almost in the same boat here.
Android 4.9 Marshmallow said:
I will never choose Samsung again.
They are lazy and they are cheap. I had a problem with my logical board and they didn't replace my phone. Now they replaced my logical board and it has deep sleep issues.
Now i have to send my phone for the FOURTH time so i can get anywhere.
They got my money once, yes. Never again....
Their loss....
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Although i didn't have any motherboard issue, i had the deep sleep issue ever since i upgraded to ICS and i didn't even notice it until recently.
Thanks to XDA members i was able to solve it by turning off the last 4 options in sound settings and unlocking the phone before i unplug it from the wall charger.
The lag in touchwiz launcher for a 700 euro device was not tolerable for me, so i replaced it with ADW EX launcher. You would expect that they would enable gpu acceleration in their launcher with ICS, but anyway.
The worst thing is that mmc_erase bug. I am actually scared to install CM9 because i have one of those 0x19 faulty chips according to the gotbrick app.
No updates to ICS for Greece even though 2 months have passed since DBT users had it, amoled black clipping issues with videos, black spots when you view black images at night (which is no issue according to them) <--- really?
The only option left for me is to get the next nexus device when that comes out, unless it is made by Samsung again (read: volume bug).
The emmc bug in SGN is shame on SAMSUNG, really i'm extremely disappointed. SHAM ON YOU SAMSUNG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I'll never buy a. Samsung again either. I'll get a google or HTC phone.
Samsung feels cheap hardware-wise and more importantly delayed ICS far too long.
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Ah, once you're using Google or HTC phone, you'd say the same thing over in their respective threads. Trust me on this.
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That's unfortunate. I have voiced this before and concur with the OP, that no one shouldn't HAVE to root or download custom ROMs for a great experience with any Android device, be it from Samsung or any other company.
It's a show of mediocrity by Android and Android phone manufacturers when they place products in the market which truly do not perform without a bunch of optimizations. If this continues, Android will never overtake iOS and any Android device will always be behind an iPhone and an iPad.
Criskelo ICS LQ3 v8, LPT Modem, Speedmod k3-3 kernel, AT&T
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I've been using ICS stock non-root with great experience, but of course I wanted to use Titanium backup and CIFS, so I root. Is that such option in other OSes? Btw I think all those optimizations are actually placebo effects.
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The emmc bug in SGN is shame on SAMSUNG, really i'm extremely disappointed. SHAM ON YOU SAMSUNG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Oh that is calculative risk for Samsung not to rush out the firmware update. Who in the world would a normal user wipe their phone daily, weekly or monthly. A normal user would almost never factory reset the phone. Also, if it did indeed brick the phone, just bring it to your nearest Samsung service centre to get a free mainboard replacement. No warranty? Complain to the consumer association and get a refund.
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Cool story. Just won an ipad 3. Set it up and was playing with it. I think the screen sucks and the OS is frigging boring. Sold it on ebay.
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In what way exactly the ipad screen sucks??
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In what way exactly the ipad screen sucks??
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It just sucks compared to my Notes screen. Lot of blotchy colors and no way to change the DPI to something other than what's for people with sight problems. For how much praise it gets, I laughed my ass off.
The ONE thing I did like about the ipad was the minimal battery drain in deep sleep.... Or maybe it's because it's a 11000mAh battery.
Oh the other thing was how much $$ I got for selling it.
If you do not like them and disappointed please just go get something better than that. I do know there is issue with but I like my note and I will go find better way to use this best one rather than complain and crying.
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Hi everyone. I recently bought a Galaxy S (Bell Vibrant) for my wife, she saw it and really liked and i was pretty familiar with the specs and all that and all the good reviews so i jumped in and got it. Now since she has it (4 days) the phone has turned itself off for no reason twice and has also frozen a couple of times with one of them being when i was showing it to an apple fanboy (embarrassed). But anyway now my wife isnt very happy with it because she says it feels very light and cheap and she thinks it would break very easy and also complains about it turning off. Today she saw the icrap 4 in the store and she liked it and now she wants that . She says it feel that it wont break easy and its stylish . Now i dont like the iphone at all and i really dont want to return the SGS and get that but i want whats best for my wife. I just read so much on this forum about all the problems people have with this phone turning off, freezing,lag, screen problems, gps, touch buttons, bad audio quality and a few more... I wonder on the screen i dont know if it will last a year before it starts tint issues burn ins and so on. Now i want to know do you guys think this phone would last at least a year two and do you think all this stuff will be sorted out or should i get her the icrap 4. I really dont like that iphone but it seems suitable for my wife as all she wants is somthing that works takes decent pictures and looks good. Please let me know what you guys think as this is really pita.
Sorry for the long and confusing post..
you keep the SGS and get her the "iwantwhateverybodywantsphone"
SGS is not for the normal person
SGS is for people with computer knowledge and linux understanding and windows haters
SGS is a amazing phone if you know how to use it, and keep it clean, the same techniques used in windows works the same in Android, and it does wonderful stuff
ironically in windows those solutions never last, in Android you do it once, and it remains forever set.
no GPS problem, no lag, no lag fix, no freeze, no turning off on its own, it works perfectly on JH2
your description of the phone "turning off" could be either a battery problem, or the phone ran out of memory due all the background apps no closing off and releasing the memory back
Shes got her mind set on the Iphone4, get it and live happy. If not she'll be whinning about it til contract is up or divorce (which ever is faster)
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Shes got her mind set on the Iphone4, get it and live happy. If not she'll be whinning about it til contract is up or divorce (which ever is faster)
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yup.. that's true, womens are like that.
it's either their way, or their way... they don't care for logic, reason, and never mention who's right, that doesn't exist in their world
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you keep the SGS and get her the "iwantwhateverybodywantsphone"
SGS is not for the normal person
SGS is for people with computer knowledge and linux understanding and windows haters
SGS is a amazing phone if you know how to use it, and keep it clean, the same techniques used in windows works the same in Android, and it does wonderful stuff
ironically in windows those solutions never last, in Android you do it once, and it remains forever set.
no GPS problem, no lag, no lag fix, no freeze, no turning off on its own, it works perfectly on JH2
your description of the phone "turning off" could be either a battery problem, or the phone ran out of memory due all the background apps no closing off and releasing the memory back
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Yes i know how it is with Android as i am pretty familiar with it. I have a X10 myself and i love it to bits, i dont think im ready to switch it for an SGS. However i am not doubting the software of the SGS but the hardware, my main concern is the screen, i see a lot of people here that have problems with it so my concern is durabilty and lifespan i also see a lot of people on here who sent their phone for repair numerous times and that scares me. Now my wife is not set on the iphone as she is not a big fan of apple herself and shes heard me ***** about how bad and limited it is all the time but she just wants a reliable smartphone that she can depend on and not have it crap out by itself for no reason. She likes the SGS but she also likes the design of the crap 4 and she asked me if that would be more stable and not give problems. I told her that i am waiting on a update (froyo) and all the bugs will be probably fixed. Anyway like i stated before its the hardware thats is troubling me. Do you guys think it will last, more specifically the screen. Also can you recommend me wich firmware to use and wich lagfix? as i see there is a few out there, or should i wait for the official froyo release? Thank you for all your help, i really apreciate it.
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yup.. that's true, womens are like that.
it's either their way, or their way... they don't care for logic, reason, and never mention who's right, that doesn't exist in their world
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Haha yes that is true. But the wife doesnt really care about the iphone and she is not set for it completly or somthing. She just said she likes the design lol. And if it would work better to get her that. So i am pretty unfamiliar with Samsung phones thats why im doubting it. I know all previous samsungs were crappy and buggy as hell and with weird menus etc.. So now we have the SGS wich is the first phone that i actually like from Samsung but i still have my doubts thats why i am asking you guys.
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you keep the SGS and get her the "iwantwhateverybodywantsphone"
SGS is not for the normal person
SGS is for people with computer knowledge and linux understanding and windows haters
SGS is a amazing phone if you know how to use it, and keep it clean, the same techniques used in windows works the same in Android, and it does wonderful stuff
ironically in windows those solutions never last, in Android you do it once, and it remains forever set.
no GPS problem, no lag, no lag fix, no freeze, no turning off on its own, it works perfectly on JH2
your description of the phone "turning off" could be either a battery problem, or the phone ran out of memory due all the background apps no closing off and releasing the memory back
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Wow....
I'm sorry but some of your posts are ridiculous.
"SGS is for windows haters and people with Linux undersanding"?
WTF
I'm sure the Bell rep makes you fill out a pre-requisite form before you take away a SGS to make sure you have Linux knowledge and hate windows... Thats how they are marketing the phone too...??
This phone is being marketed to the main stream.
And as far as JH2 being perfect. Guess what? When my SGS died I had already updated it to JH2. I got it back from repair on Friday, its JH2 still, and it has turned off on its own twice now. Fresh from being wiped and repaired. Just browsing these forums and seeing all the people with the same issues JH2 or otherwise is a clear indication that there are some serious issues with this phone. Oh, and my co-worker who picked one up after me has now had to send his in for repair as it died. Its his first smart phone, with all of 5 apps installed, so don't try to blame it on hacking or rooting.
You're apologetic fanboy like posts are getting tiring to be honest.
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As for the original poster. Take it back and get your wife an iPhone 4 if thats what she wants. Apple fan boys drive me nuts too, I know, after my SGS died on me I have never heard the end of it..
Well i definitely see where you are coming from and understand your lack of interest on the SGS
but i'm coming from a total 180, and this is the perfect phone, everything came out as planned, from spec, to speed, to software, to features, to funtionality, to well you name it, everything works the way i expected it to work out of the box
way better than windows devices
i've been through a lot of smartphones before, and nothing comes close to the SGS, all previous "smartphones" were nothing but disasters and let downs
just the same way you think about the SGS i think about the HTC devices and the Blackberries, and the Treo600.
However the Treo650 was quite decent, albeit slow online but it was way better than its predecessor in every other aspect.
I still prefer PalmOS over Windows
put either Android or Palm OS on any device with good spec better than SGS and I'm all over it.
right now at this point in time the SGS is the creme of the crop, the supremacy, the top of the top
Looking forward to next years contenders
Too many apple fanboys.
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Too many apple fanboys.
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Sorry but your post is useless. I am not looking to start a flame war i am looking for advice and opinions from this community. I am not any kind of fan boy and i doubt any of the posters here is. Please if anyone has something to say please do so but lets keep it clean, no flame wars no fan boy and childish comments because you are not helping anyone.
Hey there, I bought the i9000 on recommendation from two friends that were both iPhone users that switched to nexus ones and never looked back. I have been a blackberry user for about 7 years and gone through (destroyed) most of them. This is my first smartphone and i was looking for something with minimal buttons (to break) and a good screen and good battery life. I didn't realize i was also going to end up with a mini super computer! Lagfix not only solved all lag issues, it now performs like a pack of rabid monkeys... on a touch sensitive leash. I have had no issues with the screen, rebooting, or any other hardware related problems. Any issues were related to my inexperience with android which is how i found this place. Just be careful... so while i can't give you any further information about the hardware, I have to warn you that there is a lot of information about rooting Vibrants that doesn't apply to the i9000 even though they are relatively identical, most importantly the recovery hotkey combination.
Anyway, I'm getting off topic. My i9000 is rooted with MCR Script lagfix, GPS fix, and SetCPU on Performance. Its lightning quick, bloody bright, and about 1000x more than I ever could have hoped for out of a smartphone.
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I am on my second Bell i9000m GXY S. Me and my girlfriend bought one just over a month ago.
Mine suddenly died. I had done many flashes and other such things on it, but that wasn`t the cause. The cause was a bad MoviNand chip. Samsungs chip that runs the phone. Before I even modified the phone I was having Force closes. Random reboots and other errors. Having to do battery pulls to get your brand new $600+ phone to work is ridiculous.
I came to Android from Blackberry. Being an apple hater I had no other real choice in my market.
My second Galaxy S (replacement under warranty) came in today. Before I touched anything root it had 2 force closes. It froze once so far under heavy use.
My girlfriends is completely stock and after a couple weeks has random reboots, and other errors similar to mine. I fear her phone will go the same as my first (and likely second) did.
I love the phone but the i9000m seems very buggy and unreliable. I can`t use it for an alarm because 1 out of 20 times it will freeze in the middle of the night. Hers too; which is stock.
It seems to be more of a problem with the Bell variants of the phone, as I see other bell users with the same problems more often then American customers.
I would really wait to make any permanent impressions on the phone until Samsung releasestheir Froyo FW update and possibly fixes the bigger problems with the i9000m.
So I wouldnt push you one way or the other, but be prepared to take that galaxy s off your woman`s hands and buy her a crapple. I may be taking my girlfriends and getting her a Desire HD or whatever HTC releases next in my market. HTC for my friends seems to be rock solid. Again thats just my view and I am probably inaccurate since I don`t own an HTC.
If samsung doesn`t fix the GPS bug (which I have run into on both our phones--- one stock and mine on several roms) and the crashing (stock) on the next couple of updates I will not be buying Samsung again, but will be sticking with Android. I have tried to use the GPS in 3 provinces and 4 states and its really accurate for me less then half the time.
Apple gas been supporting 3g till now in all firware updates. While mr sam sung forgot our froyo
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Apple gas been supporting 3g till now in all firware updates. While mr sam sung forgot our froyo
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Say what? Froyo isn't released yet. Nothing is forgotten before you actually have an officially released product on your phone. Stop being a retard and don't pollute threads with problems about inofficial firmwares. 3g is not entirely perfect on the released firmwares, but it's definetely there.
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I have the Sgs from the begin and any problem... no freeze, Reboots, I thing that people thing froyo will solvent all problems, but this kind of issues are caused for a defective hardware, no software... then maybe should contact samsung to replace the mobile.
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install this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8123924&postcount=40
and disable all the apps that you don't need to be running in the background all the time
it doesn't matter how "smart" are the smartphones now in days, it's still a freaking computer, if it's not optimized, it will just go crazy
i don't even have a task killer installed, as it's not necessary, as long as you maintain the list of apps you allow it to run in the background then the rest is smooth sail.
i9000m stock JH2, no lag fix, the only fix installed is the SMS time fix
solipsism said:
I am on my second Bell i9000m GXY S. Me and my girlfriend bought one just over a month ago.
Mine suddenly died. I had done many flashes and other such things on it, but that wasn`t the cause. The cause was a bad MoviNand chip. Samsungs chip that runs the phone. Before I even modified the phone I was having Force closes. Random reboots and other errors. Having to do battery pulls to get your brand new $600+ phone to work is ridiculous.
I came to Android from Blackberry. Being an apple hater I had no other real choice in my market.
My second Galaxy S (replacement under warranty) came in today. Before I touched anything root it had 2 force closes. It froze once so far under heavy use.
My girlfriends is completely stock and after a couple weeks has random reboots, and other errors similar to mine. I fear her phone will go the same as my first (and likely second) did.
I love the phone but the i9000m seems very buggy and unreliable. I can`t use it for an alarm because 1 out of 20 times it will freeze in the middle of the night. Hers too; which is stock.
It seems to be more of a problem with the Bell variants of the phone, as I see other bell users with the same problems more often then American customers.
I would really wait to make any permanent impressions on the phone until Samsung releasestheir Froyo FW update and possibly fixes the bigger problems with the i9000m.
So I wouldnt push you one way or the other, but be prepared to take that galaxy s off your woman`s hands and buy her a crapple. I may be taking my girlfriends and getting her a Desire HD or whatever HTC releases next in my market. HTC for my friends seems to be rock solid. Again thats just my view and I am probably inaccurate since I don`t own an HTC.
If samsung doesn`t fix the GPS bug (which I have run into on both our phones--- one stock and mine on several roms) and the crashing (stock) on the next couple of updates I will not be buying Samsung again, but will be sticking with Android. I have tried to use the GPS in 3 provinces and 4 states and its really accurate for me less then half the time.
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X10 is a stylish phone, its heavy and looks durable. So why not try to switch (assuming she doesn't mind using your "old phone" .. , and you two are on the same network / phones are unlocked)
Being a sgs owner I would recommend you to return it, it has too many issue straight out of the box. This phone requires alot attention, fixes, patient and time. It does have the potential to better then any mobile out there at this time but only if you posses the aforementioned qualities.
My advice get her desire HD or desire, she will appreciate it more then an iphone.
HTC Desire is really popular within the UK even amongst the women because it is easy to use and is works brilliantly out of the box.
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And too many SGS fanboysº
As everyone more or less said:
- install the lagfix!
A) if you're technically inclined, flash the rom to something stable and tested by many (yet unofficial and "beta"): JM8 + voodoo b4 (it's in the dev forum)
B) if you're not, get one click lag fix from the market, it doesn't get any simpler! follow the program instructions, and be done with it
Let her play with it for a while with lagfix.
About the hardware quality, i got a i9000 (not i9000m), there's many different SGS and even with the same design might come from different factories etc etc.
Mine is extremely strong even being plastic, i'm very happy about that so far.
Also it's thin and light and has a big screen.
The iPhone4 has a smaller screen, and its a lot heavier than the SGS.
Additionally, you need to add a cover (bumper, case, etc) around the phone to alleviate antenna issues (granted you don't _need_ but it's very highly recommended), so you lose all the neat design factor.
After exposing her these arguments and showing up the lagfixed phone, let her decide. If she wants the iPhone4 (or Desire HD or what not), then just go for it and ebay the SGS many will buy it.
Ok so the Vibrant is not that old but seems like its forgotten already. Well the whole Galaxy S series! Bs since its only like 4 months old. Makes me mad that android devices get left behind so fast just to be replaced so quick. Not everyone can buy a new android device every week. I love my Vibrant but this crap makes me mad! Come on SLOW down with android devices already. Just my 2 cents! And no im not a fan boy. Just wanted to get this off my mind. Thanks a million!
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you don't know much about the field and business of technology do you?
The second you buy any electronic device, it is obsolete before you even walk out of the store with it. It's something you have to accept if you make any electronics purchases.
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Well as long as Samsung support the current Galaxy S line with updates I will be happy, if they don't, I know I won't be buying a Samsung phone again.
Even though they keep coming out with new phones doesn't mean yours isn't good. Root that baby, flash a rom and fall in love with your phone all over again.
Yea I Know how electronics are.just think its stupid.but love my vibrant. Already rooted.just need offical froyo 2.2 and and I will be happy!
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Yea I Know how electronics are.just think its stupid.but love my vibrant. Already rooted.just need offical froyo 2.2 and and I will be happy!
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Dont wait... Just go to akaskriller.com he already have the real one thanx to eugene
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cant wait for dual core smartphones with dedicated gpu.
4.5" screen
5+mp camera w/ flash and dedicated camera button
actual hard buttons
and of course ANDROID
And of course with the same 13-1500mAh batteries these has, so we'll have like 5000 threads about terrible battery life, etc.
Personally, I don't think there is anything great about the Vibrant outside of the screen. That was Samsung's main selling point. The GPU is good, but there are now apps popping up left and right that are claiming "No Support for Samsung Galaxy S."
Yahoo Messenger for Android now has no Support for Galaxy S, Lol.
Not going to bother buying another Samsung phone anyways, but certainly not going to buy another phone with internals outside of the mainstream.
I personally view them going in another direction IRT hardware has a massive failure. That's like buying a Windows Computer with an AMD Processor, and Microsoft telling you Live Messenger isn't supported on you computer because you got AMD instead of Intel, or Microsoft Office won't run on your computer because you're running Windows Vista instead of 7, or WoW won't run on your computer because you got an ATI instead of an NVidia. Massive failure, IMO.
Apps > Hardware.
Then there's the issue of a bunch of apps simply being incompatible due to the phone only having Android 2.1...
If you expect a Nexus S or whatever to change that, then I dunno what to say. 90% of high end smartphones run Snapdragons and most don't run TouchWiz, so developers will continue to target architectures which are the majority - as they should, cause targetting Samsung's phone and ending up with apps that crash and burn on all those other phones would be utterly retarded.
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Well as long as Samsung support the current Galaxy S line with updates I will be happy, if they don't, I know I won't be buying a Samsung phone again.
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yeah, this
only to add: i will actively tell every person i know to avoid samsung like the plague
ball's in your court samsung!
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cant wait for dual core smartphones with dedicated gpu.
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and of course ANDROID
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in a few weeks new Galaxy S/Nexus S coming to Tmobile. maybe it will be dual and 99.9% it will have flash. and the best thing, no more waiting for updates, and it will already come with Android 2.3
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Dont wait... Just go to akaskriller.com he already have the real one thanx to eugene
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Got in the site... i figured it out and didn't have to watch that whole video lol
Please tell me your not mad that technology is advancing. Really? Is it such a bad thing? Nobody is forcing you to go out and buy the newest, fastest and greatest device. Personally I think while the vibrant may lack in 2.2 and some other things like flash and a 4.3" screen or HSPA+ it more than makes up for in MONSTER graphics computing, overall speed, a beautiful 4" SAMOLED screen and a camera that takes pretty amazing pics. I did expect better support from samsung considering the phone is across all carriers However I did buy the phone as is so I cant complain too much. it still holds its own against any other device out right now. Plus... The Nexus 2 will basically be a Galaxy S so we should see easy porting to our devices once gingerbread is released and android 3.0.
Hopefully we'll see some advanced implimentation of battery technology to make these handsets last a while with usage. Cause I don't want to see another ZOMG! I got 47 hours of battery.... with everything off.
Don't blame me, blame my keyboard's autocorrection algorithm.
Thing about it is, I thought about this too.. What is out that your phone can't do? It can run all the latest apps, and will even be able to support gingerbread. You could have a 5ghz phone, but what good will it do? The 1/4 second that it would be quicker would not be noticeable.
Galaxy S. Maybe the next version will include the P, so it will have a GPS~
Slow down??? Hell no! Speed up with new devices already. And the Vibrant is just fine. I use it, it has an awesome screen, and new updates get uploaded on XDA almost on a daily basis. And I love watching new phones appear. It just means that by the time I get around to another upgrade in about 14 months, the phones at that time will be that much better. So keep innovating, companies, and improving and releasing new phones.
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Ok so the Vibrant is not that old but seems like its forgotten already. Well the whole Galaxy S series! Bs since its only like 4 months old. Makes me mad that android devices get left behind so fast just to be replaced so quick. Not everyone can buy a new android device every week. I love my Vibrant but this crap makes me mad! Come on SLOW down with android devices already. Just my 2 cents! And no im not a fan boy. Just wanted to get this off my mind. Thanks a million!
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Has anyone noticed the multitude of G2 ads everywhere? Seems like HTC is really pushing the advertising with that phone...i dont understand because i have messed with the phone and i dont think its really that good. any agree?
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Please tell me your not mad that technology is advancing. Really? Is it such a bad thing? Nobody is forcing you to go out and buy the newest, fastest and greatest device. Personally I think while the vibrant may lack in 2.2 and some other things like flash and a 4.3" screen or HSPA+ it more than makes up for in MONSTER graphics computing, overall speed, a beautiful 4" SAMOLED screen and a camera that takes pretty amazing pics. I did expect better support from samsung considering the phone is across all carriers However I did buy the phone as is so I cant complain too much. it still holds its own against any other device out right now. Plus... The Nexus 2 will basically be a Galaxy S so we should see easy porting to our devices once gingerbread is released and android 3.0.
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What exactly are you talking about. No one is complaining about technology advancing. People are complaining mostly (and mostly indirectly) about the rate at which hardware/devices are deprecated and forgotten about.
Lots of people come from a long background in using computers, so they are not used to seeing a 1 year old device become "unsupported" for the most part.
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Hopefully we'll see some advanced implimentation of battery technology to make these handsets last a while with usage. Cause I don't want to see another ZOMG! I got 47 hours of battery.... with everything off.
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Yes, those threads piss me off so much I don't even open battery threads anymore unless it's one I posted in and there's a chance a reply may be directed at me.
Most people with great battery life hardly use the phone. I get 20 hours easy when it sits there in Standby for 18.5 of those hours. Once I start using the phone, the battery is crap. I actually had to uninstall some very useful applications so the battery wouldn't commit suicide.
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Has anyone noticed the multitude of G2 ads everywhere? Seems like HTC is really pushing the advertising with that phone...i dont understand because i have messed with the phone and i dont think its really that good. any agree?
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Yep. Actually noticed the G2 add play 3x tonight. The hinge is crap, but at least the phone works as expected.
A phone doesn't have to be "really that good" to be worth the investment. In many cases, like the Vibrant, when the phone is supposed to be "really that good" it just turns out to be a failed result of overreaching.
I got this phone because it had a lot of storage in it, and it's not like T-Mobile had that many choices when it came to high end smartphones when the Vibrant was released. Some people replying to posts act like the G2, MyTouch4G, HD7, etc. were being sold in stores in July/August.
There was the HD2, and the Vibrant. That's it. The rest of T-Mobile's phones were utter crap.
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yeah, this
only to add: i will actively tell every person i know to avoid samsung like the plague
ball's in your court samsung!
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This right here. What should have been a wonderful experience has been badly sullied by non-existent support.
Buying a phone on a 2 year contract and finding out that the phone isn't even properly supported for 4 months should be enough to piss anyone off.
So, I have been playijg around with my new Nexus S for a few hours and have everything loaded up like before. It's an awesome phone, just not surs ifbit is a $500 upgrade from the Nexus One that I currently own. My biggest issue is the limilted memory... with 12 gigs of music, my work files and others- I think I will run out soon, I am guessing they come out with a 32 gig before long. I will hang on to this and see how my N1 performs with GB. I really don't need a front facing camera or NFC chip. But I must admit, this thing is great and really flies! Anyone else having second thought?
It's disappointing that Google is going the Steve Jobs way trying to control what we can or can't do with our phones. I prefer my Nexus one 1000 times over this mediocre-half-ass attempt of a phone. I'll wait for Google to try again next year and bring back the tracking ball, memory slot, and a metallic casing instead of the plasticky one.
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It's disappointing that Google is going the Steve Jobs way trying to control what we can or can't do with our phones.
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Yeah, I don't really see the Google Walled Garden. You'll have to explain.
I am almost positive there will be a Nexus-M by Motorola, they really want in on the Nexus name I have heard. Might be called the Nexus-3.0 and released after Honeycomb comes out, but that's just rumors I have heard. I thought Moto was gonna get the Nexus-2 before Samsung got involved, so I am sure they are working on a Nexus phone for release in 2011.
Right now, today, the Nexus-S is the best Android phone on the market, if you want pure Android, with no carrier bloatware, and no branding crap like Sense or Touchwiz, and you just need to root this phone to make it bad ass, no real need for a custom rom like C 6.1.
I would not want the first dual core phone to market anyways, let them work out the kinks and bugs first, and I'll take the second round of dual core phones. Will give them time to really optimize Android for dual core after the 2nd gen is out.
I think the OP was asking if you have actually bought the phone are you having second thoughts.
To go from a Nexus One to a Nexus S and call it an upgrade is an oxymoron. To pay money and get a phone with less features is unwise. Gingerbread is coming to the Nexus One anyway.
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To go from a Nexus One to a Nexus S and call it an upgrade is an oxymoron. To pay money and get a phone with less features is unwise.
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Where does Google say it's an upgrade? Link, please.
If you're just whining because the Nexus S doesn't have all the features that you want, then please stop. Go somewhere else and start your own thread, where you can complain all you want that the phone doesn't have a Jet Pack or a Rocket Launcher.
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It's disappointing that Google is going the Steve Jobs way trying to control what we can or can't do with our phones. I prefer my Nexus one 1000 times over this mediocre-half-ass attempt of a phone. I'll wait for Google to try again next year and bring back the tracking ball, memory slot, and a metallic casing instead of the plasticky one.
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It's hardly the same thing. Sure, Google may have taken out a couple features that you find important, but they are definitely not controlling anything. These decisions ONLY affect the Nexus S. The MANY other Android phones are not affected. So if you want a trackball and expandable memory, you can very well have that. Just buy a different phone. Apple on the other hand, prevents this freedom since the iPhone is the only available iOS phone.
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Where does Google say it's an upgrade? Link, please.
If you're just whining because the Nexus S doesn't have all the features that you want, then please stop. Go somewhere else and start your own thread, where you can complain all you want that the phone doesn't have a Jet Pack or a Rocket Launcher.
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This is a forum for people to share their opinions. If you really like the Nexus S, you shouldn't get mad if others don't. Go buy one, enjoy it and move on. But try to understand that different people use their phones differently.
For me, the lack of SD storage is a deal breaker. Like the OP, I have easily over 12GB of music that I load on my phones. I don't want to carry an MP3 player on top of my cellphone. Nexus S's lack of SD slot leaves me with very limited space for my other data (work emails, apps, pictures and clips that I shoot, and so on). Having said that, I could see how this wouldn't be an issue for someone who doesn't fill up their phone.
Secondly, no matter how you spin it, the hardware is not a noticeable step ahead from the Nexus One, or the myTouch 4G. The S has a 1GHz processor and so do a whole slew of phones by Samsung and other manufacturers.
Thirdly, the Nexus S doesn't utilize TMO's HSPA+ network. Again, this may not be a big deal for somebody who doesn't do heavy data on their phone. But I do, and I happen to live in an area where TMO's "4G" network works extremely well. I definitely consider going from HSPA+ back to "3G" a downgrade. You may not share that view...
Basically, the only selling point for the S is Gingerbread. Based on certain information I have, the MT4G is highly likely to get a 2.3 update on the other side of the year. A minor OS update isn't enough to convince me to buy this phone.
As for your "upgrade" comment, technology is expected to get better over time. It's just the way it works. Google doesn't need to hold a press conference event to tell us whether this phone is an upgrade over a phone released nearly a year ago. That is expected to be the case.
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I think the Nexus phones are Google's iPhone. It is untouched by Carrier bloatware, and untouched by phone brand UI's. This is the "pure" Android experience, sort of how iPhone is the "pure" Apple phone experience, but they only have one phone anyways, so sort of hard to compare, but you get my drift.
Is the Nexus-S gonna be the top dog hardware, no. But it will always be up to date with the current OS, and not really needing any custom roms, just a root. Sure in two months from now, there will be dual cores etc...but they will also have Moto blur, or TouchWiz, or Sense UI, and then have Verizon Bing search, or ATT crap ware. I like the virgin Nexus, even if she is a little slower
Every Christmas time there will be a new Nexus, running the latest OS, sort of like every summer there is a new iPhone. I hope this keeps going.
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Sure in two months from now, there will be dual cores etc...but they will also have Moto blur, or TouchWiz, or Sense UI, and then have Verizon Bing search, or ATT crap ware.
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even if there is, until android is written to support it, and the apps are as well, having an extra core will be useless.
I'm going to sit on my n1 until a dual core dev phone is released. By that point, my n1 will be at the same hardware comparison with the new phone that my g1 was with the n1
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even if there is, until android is written to support it, and the apps are as well, having an extra core will be useless.
I'm going to sit on my n1 until a dual core dev phone is released. By that point, my n1 will be at the same hardware comparison with the new phone that my g1 was with the n1
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Agreed, I would not want to be beta tester on the first gen of dual core phones, could be buggy, or could not offer any performance gains until the Android OS is totally ready for it . Now a dual core Nexus development phone would be nice.
Probably going to return mine
This phone is nice, but I really don't c much performance upgrade over my Nexus One. When I tried to watch some flash videos, it was just as choppy as my Nexus One...I was very disappointed. I think right before the remorse period is over I will return the phone and go back to my N1.
I visited Best Buy during lunch and got to play with a demo unit. The first impression is that the phone feels cheap. Yes, we've read about this many times in reviews, but I don't think one realizes it until one has it in their hands. It feels like a toy. And for whatever reason, it feels cheaper than the Vibrant; maybe because of expectations (Nexus branding and all)? I don't know. In some ways, the Vibrant's cheapness still feels like quality.
Granted, I was only using it for no more than 5 minutes, I was quite underwhelmed. Gingerbread sure is smooth, though.
Driving home with mine right now. 30 day return policy with no restocking fee. Ill see how gb does on my nexus one also and if I find any buyers. If gb flies on n1 and no buyers ill return. Can't wait to get home and charge it then wait till its done before I use. Fffuuuuuuu
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I too am underwhelmed with the device so far. Oh yes it is fast and smooth but I am getting Fc's and some have to do with the GPS which does concern me. My GPS has been spotty so far and I still recall the torture with the Vibrant's GPS. Also Market has not updated to the new market. I thought GB would include that for sure(perhaps it is not actually released yet although I have it on my Vibrant. I do like the feel of the phone though. It is heavier to me than the Vibrant or the MT4G
... Like 2 dicks and no *****, Samsung and Android don't mix.
Sorry but that's just the god's honest truth.
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I too am underwhelmed with the device so far. Oh yes it is fast and smooth but I am getting Fc's and some have to do with the GPS which does concern me. My GPS has been spotty so far and I still recall the torture with the Vibrant's GPS. Also Market has not updated to the new market. I thought GB would include that for sure(perhaps it is not actually released yet although I have it on my Vibrant. I do like the feel of the phone though. It is heavier to me than the Vibrant or the MT4G
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If you're getting FC's out of the box, do a full reset of the phone. If it keeps doing it even afterwards, then exchange it.
This is my first Samsung device and I disagree with the folks saying that it feels cheap or like a toy. My only complaint about it's build quality after having played with it for the last several hours is that I wish they had used some rubberized texture coating or something because the phone is pretty slick.
I'm sure I'll get used to it though and adjust my grip accordingly.
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... Like 2 dicks and no *****, Samsung and Android don't mix.
Sorry but that's just the god's honest truth.
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LOL I'm writing that one down.
Are there really that many of you out there happy with your Xoom purchase? I am an Android fanatic through and through but I can't even get the most basic built in widgets to launch, I am already 3 minutes deep into typing this because buttons on the keyboard randomly stop registering at all. I have no idea what Honeycomb is even like as everything I try to open FC's before it even launches. I am literally in awe of how big of a piece of **** this thing is. Less than 24 hours and this thing is going back to best buy. **** my galaxy tab ran froyo flawless and I am now really bummed I sold it to get this worthless pos. I hate apple with every inch of my being but I know the ipad will function exactly how it is supposed to our of the box instead of this less than half baked **** I am attempting to use now.
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I've had my Xoom since Wednesday and I'm 100% happy. I have experienced only a few FC's. The only widget I have found that doesn't work is Facebook. The only time I have experienced keyboard lag is in the browser.
Have you tried a factory reset? Maybe that will clear things up?
Do yourself a favor and return it for another one because something is wrong with the one you got. The xoom is my first android device and i'm amazed. Everything runs great. The odd time it will take a few minutes for my CNN and accuweather widget to load. Get another so you can give it a real chance. That's all I'm try'n to say
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Has anyone got the facebook widget to work? Most the people I told about widget problems said the same thing as you. Only the FB doesn't work. Weird no one seems to have a problem with that either on a $800 device.
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I love android but my xoom is going back to costco..its just not living up to the hype
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I am extremely happy with mine as well, just can't wait for all the mods to start rolling!
100% love my xoom. So much better than my galaxy tab.
I have a galaxy tab and I feel that the xoom screen is a downgrade when compared to my tab. It's a deal breaker.
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I love mine. Only reason I hate it is because it has taken over my life. On the facebook widge thing. Really? You expect an app widget foe a phone to run one day one. And that is really the only one I have had problems with. The update will come. Do us all a favor return your xoom.
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It's amazing to me that people knowingly assume the role of early adoptor, and don't expect issues. It's part of the process. You can gather from these boards what the general experience is: a pleasant work in progress that needs some apps and a little polish. If your experience is wildly different, it's either a faulty Xoom or you shouldn't buy the flagship device for a very new OS. You also might not know how to get the most out of this thing.
Nobody makes an issue out of the Facebook widget because.... it's a Facebook widget. If you that falls into "things you can't live without it until 3.01", then take the Xoom back.
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Has anyone got the facebook widget to work? Most the people I told about widget problems said the same thing as you. Only the FB doesn't work. Weird no one seems to have a problem with that either on a $800 device.
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the price of the device has nothing to do with whether a third party widget designed for a phone should work or not. if this is your only problem, i'd say the xoom's a winner.
To the OP, my biggest problems are FC's of the browser. It used to crash every 5 minutes. I rebooted, and for me, that solved the problem. knock on wood, but no FC of the browser in a day.
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Are there really that many of you out there happy with your Xoom purchase? I am an Android fanatic through and through but I can't even get the most basic built in widgets to launch, I am already 3 minutes deep into typing this because buttons on the keyboard randomly stop registering at all. I have no idea what Honeycomb is even like as everything I try to open FC's before it even launches. I am literally in awe of how big of a piece of **** this thing is. Less than 24 hours and this thing is going back to best buy. **** my galaxy tab ran froyo flawless and I am now really bummed I sold it to get this worthless pos. I hate apple with every inch of my being but I know the ipad will function exactly how it is supposed to our of the box instead of this less than half baked **** I am attempting to use now.
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I have to say...I'm surprised at how much I like my xoom. I think you just got a bad model perhaps.
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It's amazing to me that people knowingly assume the role of early adoptor, and don't expect issues. It's part of the process. You can gather from these boards what the general experience is: a pleasant work in progress that needs some apps and a little polish. If your experience is wildly different, it's either a faulty Xoom or you shouldn't buy the flagship device for a very new OS. You also might not know how to get the most out of this thing.
Nobody makes an issue out of the Facebook widget because.... it's a Facebook widget. If you that falls into "things you can't live without it until 3.01", then take the Xoom back.
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I think some people expect way to much. Everyone on this forum should know the meaning of "early adopter" (**** look at the nexus on and still that is the best phone I have ever owned). Not just that but all I hear is a bunch of *****ing and moaning over the Xoom. It either costs too much or some other whining. I love it and I can't put it down and compared to the hundreds if reviews I read I figured that hneycomb was horrible but it is actually running pretty well on mine. I mean I get the occasional force close but god its a .0 release and its the first of its class. If a widget doesn't work blame Facebook (or any other 3rd party developer) if anyone thinks the samsung 10.1 will be better theyre in for a rude awakening.
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Are there really that many of you out there happy with your Xoom purchase? I am an Android fanatic through and through but I can't even get the most basic built in widgets to launch, I am already 3 minutes deep into typing this because buttons on the keyboard randomly stop registering at all. I have no idea what Honeycomb is even like as everything I try to open FC's before it even launches. I am literally in awe of how big of a piece of **** this thing is. Less than 24 hours and this thing is going back to best buy. **** my galaxy tab ran froyo flawless and I am now really bummed I sold it to get this worthless pos. I hate apple with every inch of my being but I know the ipad will function exactly how it is supposed to our of the box instead of this less than half baked **** I am attempting to use now.
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I have heard that the Xoom works better with a restart after the intitial one. Don't have mine yet to test, but you could always try.
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Are there really that many of you out there happy with your Xoom purchase? I am an Android fanatic through and through but I can't even get the most basic built in widgets to launch, I am already 3 minutes deep into typing this because buttons on the keyboard randomly stop registering at all. I have no idea what Honeycomb is even like as everything I try to open FC's before it even launches. I am literally in awe of how big of a piece of **** this thing is. Less than 24 hours and this thing is going back to best buy. **** my galaxy tab ran froyo flawless and I am now really bummed I sold it to get this worthless pos. I hate apple with every inch of my being but I know the ipad will function exactly how it is supposed to our of the box instead of this less than half baked **** I am attempting to use now.
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I addressed you in another thread but would like to use this thread since you started it to gather data. Would you kindly provide a list of the apps/widgets that FC when you try to use them? I would like to install one or two here and see if the same results happen. The next step of that process is to contact those developers and ask them if they would be willing to update their software to support the 3.0 Framework.
Agreed, I love my Xoom. It does everything I need it to do and then some. I travel frequently and just the fact that I no longer have to use my laptop while sitting in airports or coffee shops justifies my purchase. I think many people came in with expectations that were waaay too high for this class of device. Excellent battery life, email and web browsing on the go plus all of my ebooks in one place for easy access are all that I asked for. Video could be better but not as bad as ppl are making it out to be. Could Gingerbread and the Xoom both be better? Absolutely, but neither is bad by any stretch of the imagination. I think alot of people were expecting netbook power and functionality in tablet form, but you certainly don't get that with any of the other competing tablets out there so why hold the Xoom to such a high standard? I'll be keeping mine until the quad core processors are out and we see a major jump in screen resolution, but for now, I'm completely satisfied with my purchase. I think the Xoom is amazing considering it has the processing power of full size laptops out only a few short years ago...
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I think some people expect way to much. Everyone on this forum should know the meaning of "early adopter" (**** look at the nexus on and still that is the best phone I have ever owned). Not just that but all I hear is a bunch of *****ing and moaning over the Xoom. It either costs too much or some other whining. I love it and I can't put it down and compared to the hundreds if reviews I read I figured that hneycomb was horrible but it is actually running pretty well on mine. I mean I get the occasional force close but god its a .0 release and its the first of its class. If a widget doesn't work blame Facebook (or any other 3rd party developer) if anyone thinks the samsung 10.1 will be better theyre in for a rude awakening.
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well put sir
@theahlenius I was waiting for someone to say something along these lines. It is fair to say that for the average consumer this device is not fully ready to be put out. The norm is to only put a device on the market after it is fully ready to be released, welcome to the world of beta (the device is further than beta but still just like beta there can be quirks with a new os and lack of app support.) But I do have a few things that I want to say, 1) it was known that there was going to be things not working, ie the sdcard, flash, and that 4g was upgradeable( the lte network is still new they are still running tests on the thing with real world traffic use, give it time. you realize the crap that could go wrong releaseing a device like this on to a new network without testing its capabilities first *shivers*). Then there are people complaining about apps not working, ITS A NEW OS, The sdk that enables dev's to optimize their apps for tablets hasn't been out that long. Again it takes time, and the dev's haven't had time to make changes and fix any issues. I as well am getting the issue with the facebook app, thats about the only one, its expected though as it was built on 2.2 sdk and not 3.0 or 2.3.3. Guys really if you dont expect issues being a early release adopter return your Xoom and go get a controlled experience where Apple will hold your hand iPad.
I love my Xoom & I take it with me everywhere so I can show it off too & people are in awe of it...I know no tablet that can compare to it.too my dell streak 7 back & got this & so glad I did.This thing just works with no lags!! My ipod collects a lot of dust too now.
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the xoom isn't perfect but yes we are early adopters. just like the nexus one and now the nexus s when they first came out, there are sure to be problems.
be patient, keep up to date on these forums, and the fixes and patches should roll out via google/moto or here on xda.
aside from all the problems that my xoom is having (random force closes, lag here and there), i'm enjoying this device. just rooted it and not sure if i want to take the plunge in to overclocking. don't feel as safe in doing it vs. my nexus s and dell streak since i dished out a crapload of money on it lol.
I have seen numerous HTC fans spew crap about Samsung for updates and build quality issues. For example, many state that the plastic build quality is of very low quality, of which is very opposite in reality in which in plastic is actually very solid. I have dropped my Vibrant many times and it still looks like new, can't say that about metal which dents and gets dinged. As for updates, blame your carriers. The international versions got updates several months before the carrier versions.
Here are some quotes from some obvious HTC users.
"Last year, Consumer Reports (a major U.S. publication) branded the U.S. Galaxy S versions as some of the best Android phones. Not only were they NOT the best, they were missing some basic functionality and lagged like a phone from a previous generation. Let's not even talk about lack of support from Samsung. Too many people fall for the SAMOLED eye candy and ignore everything else."
Or "Thank god I have some help.. hehe I honestly dunno why these SamSux people think S G II is pretty muhahua. It's one ugly plastic crap i've ever seen. They keep coming in HTC thread telling people to buy their plastic crap. "
Or "Another troll just childish, u will se Samsung will never have so awesome devs like HTC phones have especially when.I look at the desire section, a lot of them will buy a sensation and that's the reason why i will buy one to "
What do you think about the public conception of Samsung here at XDA?
The first quote is spot on. The lag was unbearable, the GPS inop, and support was nonexistent. Samoled was nice until you seen the jagged text. Battery life was also terrible. The phones are usable now, after 3-4 updates (updates that were bricking phones and frying storage, mind you) but the GPS is still borderline useless for lots of people and it still lags more than a Samsung jack wm6.5 device (by a long shot).
I they do better with the s2 good for them, but they are indefendable irt these phones. Hype can only get you so far...
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The first quote is spot on. The lag was unbearable, the GPS inop, and support was nonexistent. Samoled was nice until you seen the jagged text. Battery life was also terrible. The phones are usable now, after 3-4 updates (updates that were bricking phones and frying storage, mind you) but the GPS is still borderline useless for lots of people and it still lags more than a Samsung jack wm6.5 device (by a long shot).
I they do better with the s2 good for them, but they are indefendable irt these phones. Hype can only get you so far...
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Way to read my first paragraph. Support was due to the carriers, not Samsung directly. And I still do not understand what this lag is, even on JFD I had installed 30 apps and still little to no lag for me.
And the jagged text? have both a HD7 and a HD2 with me no, and I see no difference worth speaking of between the screens. I do 20/20 vision.
Battery life terrible? Wait till you see the desire HD or thunderbolt. The GS2 has also been reported to have good battery life.
Have you even tried a custom rom N8ter? CM7 nevers lags, even when underclocked to 400 mhz. And as to that HTC phones work better out of the box statement, we are on XDA. Hell, many of those HTC fanboys wanted the Sensation due to the dev attention they believed it would get, even with a locked bootloader.
I don't mod my phones and nor should anyone be expected to. The performance of the phone now is usable. Where was cyanogen in august to December 2010, though?
Don't answer that.
Bunch of excuses. What you quoted is true.
Text on a samoled panel is more jagged than on others. Its a side effect of the pen tile pixel arrangement used. Its very noticeable when you have white text on a black background - at least for me it is.
These panels also suffer from burnin more than any other screen type I've used.
Support from carriers does not help when the hardware is faulty (gps)'or the device has design flaw like rfs. Samsung can push out an update that replaces rfs. They choose not to. They should have recalled phones with known hw gps falls but.they just blamed it on the users andbgave them a useless tool to rwser some setting many of us never touched to begin with.
I read your whole post btw, bit I'm typing from devices so stop acting.like I'm obligated to comment on or rebut every tucking thing in it...
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The way I see it is why would anyone buy an android and use it stock lol considering stock is garbage to custom roms. End of story
This is the fourth vibrant I've had, gps was piss poor, and I was able to get new ones because of it. This newest handset has really good locks. I like the phone even after the gps problems. I bought an otter box and some ghost armor. With the case it feels solid. I know not everyone will get a case to make the phone feel built but it's nice. Id buy another samsung device no problem. I like the feel and ease of use.
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Fact: Despite samsung's delay in releasing froyo for the vibrant and it's GPS problems, the vibrant was/is still a greatr phone with an awesome display and great hardware!
Guys , am just wating for galaxy s 2 , rumour has it that it is going to be the best smart phone for a long time!!
I have to agree with N8ter. This will probably be my last Samsung device. I told myself from the start I'd never get another Samsung device, but it was all Asurion had to replace my water-damaged, but beloved N1. Ugh. I wish I had waited for them to get something else.
The lag KILLS me! I want to throw the damn phone against the wall or some concrete almost daily. Samsung could have definitely kept RFS to their damn selves. Even the browser lags on me most times.
I get a bunch of missed calls even when I have full coverage. The only way I'd even know I would miss them is if my girlfriend would text me to pick up my phone or check Google Voice for missed calls.
The GPS... yeah. Go back to the comment about me wanting to throw my phone against the hardest surface available, and multiply that by 100. The GPS has almost made me late for several appointments (job interviews, drug testing, etc.), and actually gotten me lost in my own native home of Atlanta. I don't get how the hell the GPS can possibly think I'm somewhere .5 miles away then where I am actually am.
I absolutely hate how it doesn't have an LED. NoLED does the job, but isn't really what I would call a suitable replacement.
I also hate how it looks like an iPhone. If I wanted an iPhone lookalike, I would have went out and bought an iPhone. I am really tired of people always asking me, "Is that an iPhone?"
I also despise TouchWiz. I despise manufacturer skins in general, but touchwiz REALLY grinds my gears.
One of the very few good redeeming qualities about this damn phone is the amount of internal storage, but which I barely make use of b/c of wanting to keep all of files stored on my external. I also like the dev tools they have, such as Odin. It's saved me a couple of times from bad flashing and just plain operator error. I also like how easy it was to install the front facing camera. But, then again, why the hell should I have to install it in the first place?
Overall, I am not a happy camper with Samsung. Once I start this new job, or get my financial aid refund check , it's definitely time for a new phone, and it sure as hell won't be Samsung. I was thinking about giving this phone to my girlfriend to replace her T-Mobile Tap, but I don't know if I want to torture her that much.
P.S. This is after using custom roms. God forbid how horrid my experience would have been on stock. I think I might have really thrown it in oncoming traffic.
its obvious that you're stuck in your mindset, so why even start a thread? its useless. coming from an owner of both brands, each have pros and cons. my epic and inspire both have poor battery life. inspire is smooth while the epic lags. furthermore, my epic has better overall display, but the inspire looks better picture wise, not contrast or color, quality. my point is, phones appeal to one person or another. no need for a useless thread targeting one manufacturer.
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Glad to see Samsung has learned their lesson, they have released sgs2 with unlocked boot loader and they just released sgs2 source as well
Thanks Samsung, I'll prefer you over htc and motorola
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I am quite satisfied with my vibrant coming from an HD2 NAND.
It is quite fast and has a much more pleasant desing than most other HTC phones.
Only problem is the HORRIBLE gps.
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You are just whining and repeating what other members have stated so many times in this thread. HTC sucks, Samsung will always be better. All the problems that you are whining about disappeared when custom roms came. That's the point of custom roms so you don't have to use the crappy stock firmware. Anyway if you are still having trouble after using a custom rom and still think you have room to complain, then you probably shouldn't even own an android device and it is most likely user error. You're just an HTC fanboy, I am not saying that Samsung is the best but they are better than HTC. On top of that the Vibrant outdoes most of the new phones and all of the older phones that T-mobile has and it's over 6 months old. So quit basing your opinions on the phone off of your HTC loyalty.
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And you're a closed-minded Samsung fanboy so you can take your opinion and go eat shi* for all I care. Most of my complaints might have been stated already, but clearly the more times it's stated proves it's not just isolated incidents. I'm not basing my phone off of any loyalty. I'm basing it off of the fact that it frustrates the hell out of me. And I assure you it's not user error. I've been dealing with computers and electronics and modding etc since I was 7 and am a computer science major, so I assure you it's not user error. Every single one of those problems has persisted since I used a custom rom, and who the hell are you to tell me I shouldn't own an Android device? I know all about custom roms and have been using them since I got my first smartphone, the HTC wizard. If you think Samsung is better than HTC, that's fine. We're all entitled to our opinion. I, however, could care less about another Samsung phone ever again. I really regret the day my Nexus One fell in that pot of water.
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Every HTC phone that I have ever owned or seen has been the most worthless product. I would rather dig an old razr out from the bottom of a dumpster and use it than to ever use an HTC product again. All they have is cons, no pros at all.
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And you call me a fanboy. Yeah. Ok. At least I'm willing to admit this phone does have some pros.
I like the sgs line. Sure, there not the best out there, but as a rom chef and themer, I can honestly say this this phone is the best for that. Almost unbrickable. Don't forget, with HTC and moto(dont quote me on moto), they don't have Odin. That is a HUGE selling point for me. I would be pissed if I spent $x on a HTC phone, and had a bad flash. Now its a door stop. Just my .2.
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Everybody always runs to the I'm a computer science major and I've been working with technology since I was this age excuse.BS, I don't buy one word of that and I am willing to bet a lot on the fact that it is user error and you most likely do not even know close to what you are saying you know. If you are a computer science major then instead of complaining about the problems then why don't you fix them tough guy ? That's what I thought, full of bs just like every other troll on every other forum. I'm not a Samung fanboy or close minded I just know that samsung is and always will be better than the worthless company known as HTC that you love oh so much.
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Lol. Quite frankly I don't give a damn WHAT you believe. I don't have to prove myself to some anonymous person on the internet. You can eat **** and die for all I care. I know it's not user error. Even if I don't have the know how to go in and fix Samsung's mistakes myself, yet, I know how to read carefully and apply others' fixes. So go troll someone else. Like I said, it's your OPINION that Samsung is the better company, and that's fine. But, as for myself, I know I won't be giving Samsung another chance.
Good day to you.
I have seen Plastic = poor build quality in US mostly.
it's a loyalty thing, you know the last HTC device i owned was actually an I-Mate. still to this day I remember how damn awesome that thing was. swivel screen, Large Keyboard, solid PLASTIC construction, stereo speakers, 3.5 jack. etc. OS blew, think it was windows mobile umm 5? i know i ran 6.5 on it before i upgraded.
this phone was a beast. and the last HTC built device i ever owned as i switched to nokia and sony Ericsson smart phone devices, somehow i ended up with a samsung i900 Omnia (gsm) and have stuck with samsung since.
http://www.gsmarena.com/i_mate_jasjar-1262.php <--Beast.
Pretty cool ! I like how it supported 3g video calling in 2005 I had a Nokia 6630 then
To each their own.
I am commited to buying a usa sgs2. Why with the terrible support we've had? I truely think that samsung has learned their lesson. Releasing the source so soon after the phones launch is amazing. I have also read just about every review and watched every video. Its exactly the experience I want.
Even with all the problems of the sgs... I still love it. The reason why I know I love it is cause I am currently using a mytouch 4g. Its great that I can overclock it to 1.5ghz. Frankly I am really starting to miss my vibrant. I Love that phone. With its ****ty gps and its laggy ass stock ui and its horrible support. I am after all A tinker at heart!
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I'm not trolling, I'm just simply trying to get an ignorant bullshitter to shut his mouth that's all. As far as I know that's not trolling,it's doing the forum a favor.
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I don't have time to argue with a close-minded idiot. If you can't accept other people have opinions different from yours, then that's your problem. Now, I said good day.
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it's a loyalty thing, you know the last HTC device i owned was actually an I-Mate. still to this day I remember how damn awesome that thing was. swivel screen, Large Keyboard, solid PLASTIC construction, stereo speakers, 3.5 jack. etc. OS blew, think it was windows mobile umm 5? i know i ran 6.5 on it before i upgraded.
this phone was a beast. and the last HTC built device i ever owned as i switched to nokia and sony Ericsson smart phone devices, somehow i ended up with a samsung i900 Omnia (gsm) and have stuck with samsung since.
http://www.gsmarena.com/i_mate_jasjar-1262.php <--Beast.
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A friend of mine still uses this as his daily phone, he managed to preserved it all this long in a mint condition too