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Set cpu help/question

Ok so I have searched all over the forums and through google to find an answer to this and I can't any where so here goes. I am currently running the syndicate rom with the extreme kernal installed and when I go to use set cpu I have it set to conservative but any time I try to limit the cpu speed with the sliders it doesn't tae effect. The green numbers above the sliders will change stating my preferences but the white numbers that show the actual speed of the processor will continue to climb past my desired bottleneck. It looks like thecpu always stays between a range of 200 mhz and 1.2 ghz no matter what I set it at. If I change the style to something other than conservative it will change the behavior like performance will keep it at 1.2 or what I select and battery saver will keep it at the minimum. On demand and interactive seem to respond as well but are a little buggy and any little touch on the screen will make the processor jump straight to the maximum and stay there fr a bit which I would assume would kill my battery quite a bit faster. Does any one know if this is an issue with the phone, rom, kernal and if there is maybe a better settng than conservative or a different kernal I could use I was looking into the phoenix or fluff kernal. Any help or recomendations would begreatly appreciated. Thanks
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Its been a long time since Ive used it (2.2.1 scales pretty good) if I remeber right,interactive is what you want to select,but on some kernels conservtive is what you want to select.I never used the profiles,I think they dont work all the time.

That's odd I never had that problem with syndicate. And I know for sure that almost every overclocking kernel recommends conservative, for some reason the other profiles can cause problems. There's a couple things that I've learned.
Conservative, for one thing, is never going to be an on demand setting. Typically it will just up the cpu to the max you set it at whenever there is some sort of activity on the phone. Which begs the question, what do you have the max set at? if its 1ghz, remember that the kernel is overclocked, so a setting of 1ghz will allow you to go to 1.2ghz. (I'm almost positive you don't want to set it at 1.2, because then it will peak higher than that) I think the max you set it to should be the listed physical limit of the processor (ours is 1ghz obviously), and the overclocking handles it from there (at least that's been my experience).
Also, remember that when there is no activity (your phones in your pocket), the cpu will be at your minimum. So you save battery in that regard, because with out setting cpu limits, like if you're running stock, I think it might run at the max all the time. (I don't that for a fact tho) again, we pretty much have to run conservative, (I've read its something to do with these hummingbirds and setcpu and overclock widget aren't built fot them) so its an all or nothing deal, you can't get "just enough" processor setting.
Try creating different conditions to help yourself out. When I had syndiccate I had a different setting for the screen being off, for being plugged in to a wall, for being plugged in to a computer, and for being below a certain battery %. Those are really cool features and help out a lot.
And as far as other roms...I use baked snack right now with his ultimate kernel. Its only sllliggghttly less stable than syndicate (but most most most defintly stable enough for a daily driver), and I get much better battery life and performance. He recommends using overclock widget, which isn't as flexible as setcpu, but defintly gets the job done. You'll have to google baked snack and find his website since they kicked him off of here.
Hope that helps, let me know if I didn't quite answer your question correctly.
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From my experience,you need to set it to 1.2 to activate OC...That being said,there are some kernels that need the interactive setting to work right...and 2.2.1 scales to the lowest setting when screen off even without setcpu,thats why I dont use it anymore.I will again once we have an official OC kernel for 2.2.1.
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I actually used to have bakedsnacks rom and I liked it but it became a bit glitchy on me but I did think the battery life was a bit better. I only am using eclair as I want to wait for a final build of froyo to come out from sprint so the developers can utilize it better. I tried some of the leaked ones but I prefered the 2.1 better, all of the 2.2 ones were missing minor things that I used so I switched back. Also interactive setting just keeps the processor at max clock for a really long time before it scales back down and I didn't like that. Has anyone used the fluff ondemand kernal that is supposed to be for bettery battery life with syndicated 2.1? So I have deleted setcpu but it seemed to eat my battery faster so I put it back on. Maybe I will try some other kernal configurations since I was told that I can swap kernals without looseing data.
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Fluff was glitchy for me,I liked Xtreme kernel the best.

SetCPU vs. CMSettings Built-in CPU manager

For those of you on CM7 (preferably RC2 or later nightlies), are you using SetCPU or the built in CMSettings CPU manager? Which is giving you better performance/battery life?
I can't help but think that the built in CM Settings CPU tuner is going to be conflicting with my SetCPU profiles.
Been using nightlies since #30 or so, and I currently run SetCPU with a normal profile, a screen off profile, and a profile for <10% battery and haven't touched CMSettings' CPU manager.
I'm contemplating just uninstalling SetCPU for a day or two and seeing what a 1017max / 245min Ondemand or Powersave governor via CMSettings ends up doing to my battery life considering there will be no screen off profile.
Any thoughts?

I dumped setCPU after a lot of testing (and even bought it on market)
I'm finding I'm much happier using inbuilt CPU settings. I think battery life is the same but performance is better due to the fact that SetCPU would sometimes get stuck in my screen-off profile when turned on causing the phone to be really slow.
I recomend uninstalling setCPU, set your ONDEMAND governor with ~1Ghz and run it... You'll find your battery about the same but much less hassle.

I have yet to try that, I somewhat feel obligated to use SetCPU since I purchased it lol. But it probably won't be the last time I waste money at the market.

Neither. CPU tuner works best for me.
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Utorrent76 said:
Neither. CPU tuner works best for me.
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its the same thing :facepalm:
Try the inbuilt one... I think its way easier

I've been wondering about this too. I don't quite understand how it works. Can I just set the frequency higher till a certain point without changing the voltage and get the same battery life?
What's the best way of doing this? Just change the clock speed or do I need to change something else or update the kernel?

Whatever you tell SetCPU to do, you'll see the same settings mirrored in the CM settings.

I say setCPU cuz as battery gets lower... I have my CPU speed lower also. Basically, 15% battery lasts me forever :] lol
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DJAeroX26 said:
I say setCPU cuz as battery gets lower... I have my CPU speed lower also. Basically, 15% battery lasts me forever :] lol
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Definitely. This is the one thing I like about SetCPU is having the 10% and 5% profiles so that I can get the last few % to last forever if I need it. Although in normal day-to-day use I'm never pushing it below 20%.

ScooterG said:
Whatever you tell SetCPU to do, you'll see the same settings mirrored in the CM settings.
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Yea I see this, as far as the governor changing etc.. This is why I'm wondering if it would be easier on my phone to just run only the CM Settings one.
I notice that every 5th or so time I unlock the phone, there is an obvious lag switching from the screen off profile, and my unlock sliders jitter around and it takes 4-5 tries to unlock the phone. I think this is probably partially due to both settings switching over trying to change.
I think I might try backing up and uninstalling SetCPU for tomorrow to see how it goes.

colonelcack said:
I've been wondering about this too. I don't quite understand how it works. Can I just set the frequency higher till a certain point without changing the voltage and get the same battery life?
What's the best way of doing this? Just change the clock speed or do I need to change something else or update the kernel?
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I've read on here that overclocking the Vision's CPU up to 1 GHz requires no over-volting, and in theory should not affect battery life (but not sure exactly where that information originates from). But there has been lots of debate on these forums on whether the SetCPU app helps or hurts battery life depending on screen-off profiles (underclocking to save battery) or its constant polling of the CPU clock (possibly killing the battery faster).
A kernel that supports overclocking is already part of the CM ROM. If you are on CM, you can just adjust the clock speed under Settings>CM Settings>Performance>CPU settings. Or set the CPU clock using an app like SetCPU. Choosing one method over the other is what is being asked/debated here. If you are on the stock ROM, you need to be rooted, flash a custom kernel that supports overclocking, then install an app such as SetCPU or CPU Tuner to set the CPU clock to your liking.

redpoint73 said:
I've read on here that overclocking the Vision's CPU up to 1 GHz requires no over-volting, and in theory should not affect battery life (but not sure exactly where that information originates from). But there has been lots of debate on these forums on whether the SetCPU app helps or hurts battery life depending on screen-off profiles (underclocking to save battery) or its constant polling of the CPU clock (possibly killing the battery faster).
A kernel that supports overclocking is already part of the CM ROM. If you are on CM, you can just adjust the clock speed under Settings>CM Settings>Performance>CPU settings. Or set the CPU clock using an app like SetCPU. Choosing one method over the other is what is being asked/debated here. If you are on the stock ROM, you need to be rooted, flash a custom kernel that supports overclocking, then install an app such as SetCPU or CPU Tuner to set the CPU clock to your liking.
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I'm not sure about CM's kernel with the over-volting but I do know that Pershoots kernel can be overclocked to 979mhz without over-volting (Pershoot told me himself).

At 1.8Ghz, I find the temp settings in SetCPU very useful.
Vision rooted, booted and scooted

Daughain said:
At 1.8Ghz, I find the temp settings in SetCPU very useful.
Vision rooted, booted and scooted
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Well obviously.... But why the hell would you ever need to be running at 1.8ghz? The fact that you are always using a temp-specific profile method should show you that consistent 1.8ghz isn't good for the phone...

Okay so I uninstalled SetCPU last night and I'm going to run just the CM Settings CPU manager all day to see how it goes. Running like this:
ONDEMAND governor
Min CPU: 245 mhz
Max CPU: 1017 mhz
On nightly #19 also.
Okay so its midnight almost, and I'm at 13hrs unplugged and 52% battery still. Pretty general/light use, phone is just as snappy and the lack of a screen off profile doesn't seem to effect battery at all. Liking it so far! very interesting to see the screen off profile not mattering much.

SetCPU for me. I like to have a temperature and charging profile, to prevent the phone from overheating. Even at 1ghz the possibility exists, nice to have a backup incase.

I'm thinking set cpu conflicting with the cm built in caused my ****ty running problems. I have not used setcpu since and been good so far
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tackleberry said:
I'm thinking set cpu conflicting with the cm built in caused my ****ty running problems. I have not used setcpu since and been good so far
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With multiple tries... If you change the settings on one, it cancels the settings on the other... Maybe it's because you had set on boot enabled on both?

im going to run the CM tuner and uninstall Setcpu and see how it runs. i never thought about this but i do get that lag when i turn my screen on sometimes. im gonna miss having the profiles but ill see how it runs over the coarse of a couple days.

SetCPU app and it's effectiveness? Syndicate Frozen ROM

Hey there, I just a few days ago rooted and flashed the Syndicate Frozen rom and am not getting such good battery life...
I was wondering how big of a difference SetCpu makes on battery life/performance in general? With moderate/heavy use (internet browsing, facebook, email, txt messaging) how much should it improve battery life? am getting around 10hours at the moment with moderately light use... Is there any free alternative app that runs comparatively well?
I guess what I'm really asking is: is it worth it to buy setcpu, and will it make a dramatic difference on my battery life? This Rom is supposed to improve battery life, and I think I read is overclocked to 1.2... Will setcpu let me set this underclocked to 1,0 and then like 800 with screen off, 600 idle? Am new to the android thing [have had my EPIC only around 2 weeks today]
Thanks for any help!

Overclock widget does pretty much the same thing, and you're going to want to set something like
20mhz min 1 or 1.2ghz max
Then 100mhz min 400mhz max for screen off.

You can set the speed to.anything you want. If you want battery to be the best then.set it to 100/1000 on demand. If you emwant performance then 100/1200. Also I don't set profiles cause I was reading somewhere that they aren't good to use on any galaxy phone.
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http://www.setcpu.com/
Nice info read up on it and yes you can set it anyway you want like stated above. I bought mine from the market to support the dev for the hard work involved in making setcpu, dont know if you know but it is free for xda members just search for setcpu. It is only $2.00 well worth the price so please support the dev if you can.

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Overclock widget does pretty much the same thing, and you're going to want to set something like
20mhz min 1 or 1.2ghz max
Then 100mhz min 400mhz max for screen off.
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20Mhz would freeze the phone. :O
I personally like running it @ 100 Mhz when screen is off and 1Ghz when screen is on.

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20Mhz would freeze the phone. :O.......
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I am pretty sure XOBX meant 200, cause your right 20 is pretty much crawling...

Yep, I meant 200, the damn autocorrect kept changing mhz to Hz and I must've clicked backspace one too many times.

Thanks, so it would make a big difference in battery life?
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androikid said:
Thanks, so it would make a big difference in battery life?
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Don't expect it to magically give you another 4 hours up time. 1 extra hour would be high hopes.

I use SetCPU with the CPU set to 200/1000 and ondemand, and the battery life has improved GREATLY, well worth the $2 to support the Dev, IMO, even though XDA members get it free.

I've abandoned SetCPU and uninstalled it. Unnecessary consumption of system resources.
Same with any other user-space app/widget to control CPU speed scaling.
In the Bonsai ROM, the exact same capability, sans the profiles which I (and most people) don't use anyway, can be achieved by setting clock range and governor in /etc/init.d/24-cpufreq script. I expect that all the other OC kernels, if not every custom kernel, has a similar way to set CPU clock governor.

I have mine set to 100/1200 on demand, and it works well for the demands I put on it. Way low consumption at idle, but when I need something it instantly responds.
I routinely get 16-18 hours off the charger, and put it back on the charger with sometimes as much as 40% remaining, but as always YMMV. A lot of it has to do with the ROM, but I'd say that CPU scaling has realized a tangible gain for me.

dwallersv said:
I've abandoned SetCPU and uninstalled it. Unnecessary consumption of system resources.
Same with any other user-space app/widget to control CPU speed scaling.
In the Bonsai ROM, the exact same capability, sans the profiles which I (and most people) don't use anyway, can be achieved by setting clock range and governor in /etc/init.d/24-cpufreq script. I expect that all the other OC kernels, if not every custom kernel, has a similar way to set CPU clock governor.
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Talking about Bonsai ROM tweaks on a Syndicate thread would be like me talking about BMW mods on a Honda forum. Either way, I looked around in the system folders and I can't find the 24-cpu file you're talking about. I upgraded yestereday from the 2.1 SyndicateROM to this, and for the first few hours, the ROM itself was definately quicker...I don't know if that's just because I came from 2.1 to 2.2, not to mention all the other 2.2 tweaks. After a few hours, I completely forgot that I could overclock this to 1.2Ghz. Installing SetCPU and bumping it to 1.2Ghz felt like just another jump. System resource consumption aside, it makes the phone all that much quicker while going between screen, apps list, closing apps, etc.
I could care less about battery life because I've learned to always have a charger around me since my days of the Moment, of hell, even my Treo's. I want fast, SetCPU is something I can see the difference in just from turning it on and off and seeing the differences.

[INFO] Custom Kernels & Overclocking - FuguMod Ultra Pre Release

After reading through the Thread for the Pre Release of FuguMod Ultra in the development section of this forum I thought I would post some info up for people who are wondering why it doesn't work with their phone, and just some general info on overclocking.
- First off, not all phones will be able to run at 1366MHz. Every CPU made has a range of freuqencies it will work at, and it is different for every single one. So some may be able to handle 1366MHz and above, others may max out at 900MHz. If you are getting black screens, freezes, or random behaviour, then your CPU doesn't like the frequency you have it at, try a lower frequency.
- Always keep an eye on the temp of the CPU when testing overclocking, if the CPU gets too hot, and fail safes don't work, there is a chance you could fry your CPU.
- With the FuguMod Ultra kernel, you must also be aware that gpu bus frequencies have been changed, so if your phone is not happy with that it will black screen. (as bus speeds are like cpu speeds, every different device can handle different clock speeds)
- plls values have been changed, and these may cause problems on your phone.
So if you want to have a go at overclocking your phone, back it up, and then give it a go. Select a frequency, and test with something pretty cpu intensive (3d game, multiple quadrant passes) and see if there are any bugs/overheating during a 15min time period. If you notice any problems/too much heat, try a lower frequency, and try again. And if for some reason your phone doesn't like the kernel, you can reflash with your previous kernel or a new ROM as you have already backed up your data.
If you have any other questions about overclocking, feel free to post here and I will try my best to answer them.
--- Samsung G3, InDroid 4.3, FuguMod 2.4 B3 800MHz ---

How can you check the CPU temperature? I thought it was only battery temperature.
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dilzo said:
How can you check the CPU temperature? I thought it was only battery temperature.
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The battery temp is a good representation of how hot the processor is getting as it is right next to the battery (only a thin sheet of metal seperating it) If the battery rises in temperature by a few degrees, then you can summize that the cpu is probably getting a few degrees hotter than that. I really wouldn't recommend letting the battery get above 55degrees (celcius) as this means the CPU may be getting up close to 65degrees (celcius) which is a very bad thing.

Good post.
Note that if you want to make some stress-tests, you have to put "PERFORMANCE" governor and set the max freq you want to test.

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Good post.
Note that if you want to make some stress-tests, you have to put "PERFORMANCE" governor and set the max freq you want to test.
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Yes, Very true!!
Must also say, Your kernels are pretty legendary! Waiting patiently for the offical release of your FuguMod Ultra

m not able to see time in state with both setcpu and cpuspy and it seems deep sleep is also not working.

Piyush Rawal said:
m not able to see time in state with both setcpu and cpuspy and it seems deep sleep is also not working.
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How have you got your phone set up? i.e. what ROM are you using etc.

I am using stock jpq with app2sd, swap, zipalign, ramhack and stuff. Setcpu is installed with default min/max freakquency, No profiles in use and undervolt a bit.

Ok,
This may be an issue caused by XXJPQ, as it is a new release there may be some sort of conflict. Have you tried asking if anyone else has this issue in this thread? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1132697
I haven't played around with JPQ yet so don't know what the bugs are yet.
Also, are you running a stock kernel? Have you confirmed that the phone has been rooted properly as well?

It's definitely a bug in Kernel. I tried three different roms and i wasn't able to check time in state in any of them (I am talking about fugumod ultra prerelease kernel here).
With previous versions of fugumad kernel everything is fine. So definatly a bug in kernel.

Piyush Rawal said:
It's definitely a bug in Kernel. I tried three different roms and i wasn't able to check time in state in any of them (I am talking about fugumod ultra prerelease kernel here).
With previous versions of fugumad kernel everything is fine. So definatly a bug in kernel.
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Ok cool, I'll report the bug to the developer so that he can have a look into it. Thanks for testing and proving to the kernel.

Little bit of info some might find helpful. After some recent testing, I have found that some people might experience a black screen freeze when phone is in standby for a while with 83MHz min setting and on demand governor. I am not sure of the exact reason for this, whether it is a bug, or that the processor just doesn't like going that low for extended periods of time. If you experience this type of error, just hard reset the phone then open setcpu after phone has loaded and change the "standby" profile minimum to at least the next step up on the slider. Personally I use 223 setting as it provides a smoother lock screen animation, and no significant difference in battery drain.
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SetCPU best speed

Hey everyone, just wanted to post this to see what cpu speed works best for you guys.. Im using these preset things with the program like performance or power saver etc but i dont seem to notice a difference all of them seem to be the exact same.. Wondering how to make it good for like 50% power and 50% performance, basicly balancing the 2 out as long as its better than stalk and not burning out my cpu.. so thanks, let me know what works for you guys as ive heard its slightly different for everyone else
(HTC EVO 4G)

I use the standard "ondemand" governor with a 998max-245min, but the thing I found makes the most difference are the settings under "Advanced".
I use the below "Advanced" settings along with a 245-245 screen off profile.
Seems to get me the best battery and cpu scaling.
It also helps to use an undervolting kernel like Freedom-More.
Try that for a couple days.
NOTE: click the apply button a couple of times (might be bug but they sometimes don't take on 1 button click). Try them as is without "Set on Boot", until you are sure that your phone likes them. Plus, check after a reboot that you verify/reapply them.
Sampling rate: 20000
Up Threshold: 85
Ignore nice load: 0
Powersave Bias: 14

I'm at 691200 on smartass governor with 245000 as min on Rcmix rom
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ReapersDeath said:
Hey everyone, just wanted to post this to see what cpu speed works best for you guys.. Im using these preset things with the program like performance or power saver etc but i dont seem to notice a difference all of them seem to be the exact same.. Wondering how to make it good for like 50% power and 50% performance, basicly balancing the 2 out as long as its better than stalk and not burning out my cpu.. so thanks, let me know what works for you guys as ive heard its slightly different for everyone else
(HTC EVO 4G)
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The "presets" are how the cpu scales i'd use "interactive" or "smartassv2" 245 min and max at 998+ then search around for here for various profile set-ups

I'm running the Gingerbread-Evo-Deck 1.3 with a Savaged Zen 2.2.1 CFS HAVS Kernel. I'm also undervolted 50mV, and using the interactive x governor set at 128MHz-768mhz. Running a few other simple tweaks learned from Carhauler, and I've got excellent battery life and great performance.

I currently run mine on an ICS rom & it comes standard with a tiatmat 4.1.0+ kernel & the cpu is running at about 245mhz-1036mhz with smartass governor(I usually set it to smartass v2 but it switches back to smartass haha). My battery life for me is enough to get me thru the day.

vulcan001 said:
I currently run mine on an ICS rom & it comes standard with a tiatmat 4.1.0+ kernel & the cpu is running at about 245mhz-1036mhz with smartass governor(I usually set it to smartass v2 but it switches back to smartass haha). My battery life for me is enough to get me thru the day.
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Which ICS rom are you running?

I currently running RCMix3d Runny® Sense 3.5. Should I just got with ICS to overclock or just find a kernel that allows it?

oidrtybtrd said:
I currently running RCMix3d Runny® Sense 3.5. Should I just got with ICS to overclock or just find a kernel that allows it?
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Get a new kernal. Try Tiamat 4.1
I have my SetCPU at 128min 1152max smartassV2(i CAN overclock up to 1267) with 1 profile:
Screen Off 128min 245max
My battery life is extremely good.