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Ok so I have searched all over the forums and through google to find an answer to this and I can't any where so here goes. I am currently running the syndicate rom with the extreme kernal installed and when I go to use set cpu I have it set to conservative but any time I try to limit the cpu speed with the sliders it doesn't tae effect. The green numbers above the sliders will change stating my preferences but the white numbers that show the actual speed of the processor will continue to climb past my desired bottleneck. It looks like thecpu always stays between a range of 200 mhz and 1.2 ghz no matter what I set it at. If I change the style to something other than conservative it will change the behavior like performance will keep it at 1.2 or what I select and battery saver will keep it at the minimum. On demand and interactive seem to respond as well but are a little buggy and any little touch on the screen will make the processor jump straight to the maximum and stay there fr a bit which I would assume would kill my battery quite a bit faster. Does any one know if this is an issue with the phone, rom, kernal and if there is maybe a better settng than conservative or a different kernal I could use I was looking into the phoenix or fluff kernal. Any help or recomendations would begreatly appreciated. Thanks
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Its been a long time since Ive used it (2.2.1 scales pretty good) if I remeber right,interactive is what you want to select,but on some kernels conservtive is what you want to select.I never used the profiles,I think they dont work all the time.
That's odd I never had that problem with syndicate. And I know for sure that almost every overclocking kernel recommends conservative, for some reason the other profiles can cause problems. There's a couple things that I've learned.
Conservative, for one thing, is never going to be an on demand setting. Typically it will just up the cpu to the max you set it at whenever there is some sort of activity on the phone. Which begs the question, what do you have the max set at? if its 1ghz, remember that the kernel is overclocked, so a setting of 1ghz will allow you to go to 1.2ghz. (I'm almost positive you don't want to set it at 1.2, because then it will peak higher than that) I think the max you set it to should be the listed physical limit of the processor (ours is 1ghz obviously), and the overclocking handles it from there (at least that's been my experience).
Also, remember that when there is no activity (your phones in your pocket), the cpu will be at your minimum. So you save battery in that regard, because with out setting cpu limits, like if you're running stock, I think it might run at the max all the time. (I don't that for a fact tho) again, we pretty much have to run conservative, (I've read its something to do with these hummingbirds and setcpu and overclock widget aren't built fot them) so its an all or nothing deal, you can't get "just enough" processor setting.
Try creating different conditions to help yourself out. When I had syndiccate I had a different setting for the screen being off, for being plugged in to a wall, for being plugged in to a computer, and for being below a certain battery %. Those are really cool features and help out a lot.
And as far as other roms...I use baked snack right now with his ultimate kernel. Its only sllliggghttly less stable than syndicate (but most most most defintly stable enough for a daily driver), and I get much better battery life and performance. He recommends using overclock widget, which isn't as flexible as setcpu, but defintly gets the job done. You'll have to google baked snack and find his website since they kicked him off of here.
Hope that helps, let me know if I didn't quite answer your question correctly.
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From my experience,you need to set it to 1.2 to activate OC...That being said,there are some kernels that need the interactive setting to work right...and 2.2.1 scales to the lowest setting when screen off even without setcpu,thats why I dont use it anymore.I will again once we have an official OC kernel for 2.2.1.
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I actually used to have bakedsnacks rom and I liked it but it became a bit glitchy on me but I did think the battery life was a bit better. I only am using eclair as I want to wait for a final build of froyo to come out from sprint so the developers can utilize it better. I tried some of the leaked ones but I prefered the 2.1 better, all of the 2.2 ones were missing minor things that I used so I switched back. Also interactive setting just keeps the processor at max clock for a really long time before it scales back down and I didn't like that. Has anyone used the fluff ondemand kernal that is supposed to be for bettery battery life with syndicated 2.1? So I have deleted setcpu but it seemed to eat my battery faster so I put it back on. Maybe I will try some other kernal configurations since I was told that I can swap kernals without looseing data.
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Fluff was glitchy for me,I liked Xtreme kernel the best.
For those of you on CM7 (preferably RC2 or later nightlies), are you using SetCPU or the built in CMSettings CPU manager? Which is giving you better performance/battery life?
I can't help but think that the built in CM Settings CPU tuner is going to be conflicting with my SetCPU profiles.
Been using nightlies since #30 or so, and I currently run SetCPU with a normal profile, a screen off profile, and a profile for <10% battery and haven't touched CMSettings' CPU manager.
I'm contemplating just uninstalling SetCPU for a day or two and seeing what a 1017max / 245min Ondemand or Powersave governor via CMSettings ends up doing to my battery life considering there will be no screen off profile.
Any thoughts?
I dumped setCPU after a lot of testing (and even bought it on market)
I'm finding I'm much happier using inbuilt CPU settings. I think battery life is the same but performance is better due to the fact that SetCPU would sometimes get stuck in my screen-off profile when turned on causing the phone to be really slow.
I recomend uninstalling setCPU, set your ONDEMAND governor with ~1Ghz and run it... You'll find your battery about the same but much less hassle.
I have yet to try that, I somewhat feel obligated to use SetCPU since I purchased it lol. But it probably won't be the last time I waste money at the market.
Neither. CPU tuner works best for me.
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Utorrent76 said:
Neither. CPU tuner works best for me.
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its the same thing :facepalm:
Try the inbuilt one... I think its way easier
I've been wondering about this too. I don't quite understand how it works. Can I just set the frequency higher till a certain point without changing the voltage and get the same battery life?
What's the best way of doing this? Just change the clock speed or do I need to change something else or update the kernel?
Whatever you tell SetCPU to do, you'll see the same settings mirrored in the CM settings.
I say setCPU cuz as battery gets lower... I have my CPU speed lower also. Basically, 15% battery lasts me forever :] lol
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DJAeroX26 said:
I say setCPU cuz as battery gets lower... I have my CPU speed lower also. Basically, 15% battery lasts me forever :] lol
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Definitely. This is the one thing I like about SetCPU is having the 10% and 5% profiles so that I can get the last few % to last forever if I need it. Although in normal day-to-day use I'm never pushing it below 20%.
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Whatever you tell SetCPU to do, you'll see the same settings mirrored in the CM settings.
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Yea I see this, as far as the governor changing etc.. This is why I'm wondering if it would be easier on my phone to just run only the CM Settings one.
I notice that every 5th or so time I unlock the phone, there is an obvious lag switching from the screen off profile, and my unlock sliders jitter around and it takes 4-5 tries to unlock the phone. I think this is probably partially due to both settings switching over trying to change.
I think I might try backing up and uninstalling SetCPU for tomorrow to see how it goes.
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I've been wondering about this too. I don't quite understand how it works. Can I just set the frequency higher till a certain point without changing the voltage and get the same battery life?
What's the best way of doing this? Just change the clock speed or do I need to change something else or update the kernel?
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I've read on here that overclocking the Vision's CPU up to 1 GHz requires no over-volting, and in theory should not affect battery life (but not sure exactly where that information originates from). But there has been lots of debate on these forums on whether the SetCPU app helps or hurts battery life depending on screen-off profiles (underclocking to save battery) or its constant polling of the CPU clock (possibly killing the battery faster).
A kernel that supports overclocking is already part of the CM ROM. If you are on CM, you can just adjust the clock speed under Settings>CM Settings>Performance>CPU settings. Or set the CPU clock using an app like SetCPU. Choosing one method over the other is what is being asked/debated here. If you are on the stock ROM, you need to be rooted, flash a custom kernel that supports overclocking, then install an app such as SetCPU or CPU Tuner to set the CPU clock to your liking.
redpoint73 said:
I've read on here that overclocking the Vision's CPU up to 1 GHz requires no over-volting, and in theory should not affect battery life (but not sure exactly where that information originates from). But there has been lots of debate on these forums on whether the SetCPU app helps or hurts battery life depending on screen-off profiles (underclocking to save battery) or its constant polling of the CPU clock (possibly killing the battery faster).
A kernel that supports overclocking is already part of the CM ROM. If you are on CM, you can just adjust the clock speed under Settings>CM Settings>Performance>CPU settings. Or set the CPU clock using an app like SetCPU. Choosing one method over the other is what is being asked/debated here. If you are on the stock ROM, you need to be rooted, flash a custom kernel that supports overclocking, then install an app such as SetCPU or CPU Tuner to set the CPU clock to your liking.
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I'm not sure about CM's kernel with the over-volting but I do know that Pershoots kernel can be overclocked to 979mhz without over-volting (Pershoot told me himself).
At 1.8Ghz, I find the temp settings in SetCPU very useful.
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Daughain said:
At 1.8Ghz, I find the temp settings in SetCPU very useful.
Vision rooted, booted and scooted
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Well obviously.... But why the hell would you ever need to be running at 1.8ghz? The fact that you are always using a temp-specific profile method should show you that consistent 1.8ghz isn't good for the phone...
Okay so I uninstalled SetCPU last night and I'm going to run just the CM Settings CPU manager all day to see how it goes. Running like this:
ONDEMAND governor
Min CPU: 245 mhz
Max CPU: 1017 mhz
On nightly #19 also.
Okay so its midnight almost, and I'm at 13hrs unplugged and 52% battery still. Pretty general/light use, phone is just as snappy and the lack of a screen off profile doesn't seem to effect battery at all. Liking it so far! very interesting to see the screen off profile not mattering much.
SetCPU for me. I like to have a temperature and charging profile, to prevent the phone from overheating. Even at 1ghz the possibility exists, nice to have a backup incase.
I'm thinking set cpu conflicting with the cm built in caused my ****ty running problems. I have not used setcpu since and been good so far
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tackleberry said:
I'm thinking set cpu conflicting with the cm built in caused my ****ty running problems. I have not used setcpu since and been good so far
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With multiple tries... If you change the settings on one, it cancels the settings on the other... Maybe it's because you had set on boot enabled on both?
im going to run the CM tuner and uninstall Setcpu and see how it runs. i never thought about this but i do get that lag when i turn my screen on sometimes. im gonna miss having the profiles but ill see how it runs over the coarse of a couple days.
Please share
1. your favorite governor (do you use any different governor on different profiles?)
2. your voltage parameters
3. Your benchmark using quadrant
Thanks
No one wants to play?
Maybe like me, they have no idea what you are talking about
What is a governor?
What voltage do you mean?
My quadrant score is 3900 ish
Thanks for the reply, I don't think I'm good enough to explain but, in a nutshell,
A governor is a a piece of code in the kernel that decides on the cpu speed. each kernel has multiple governors
voltage is where you can decide what voltage is delivered to your cpu at certain frequency. undervoltage will usually help you save battery. we have to pay attention not to go too low or it phone will freeze
download setcpu it will all become clearer
I will give this another bump before letting it die
Even I would be intrested in sharing this
currently I am using CF root with ondemand and its working all good
FM kernel with interactive. I find my phone snappier with this governor. I liked it the most with smartassv2 on Abysssomething (don't remember now) kernel, but too many teething problems with this one, had to revert to FM. I'll give it another shot soon though.
pjm77 said:
FM kernel with interactive. I find my phone snappier with this governor. I liked it the most with smartassv2 on Abysssomething (don't remember now) kernel, but too many teething problems with this one, had to revert to FM. I'll give it another shot soon though.
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Do you use any additional profiles with Interactive?
Nope, I like the way it is.
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Nope, I like the way it is.
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Have you tried InteractiveX? Or, better yet, know the differences between the two? I am currently using smartassv2, FM kernel and have no complaints but would be interested if there was something a bit snappier when opening an app (I still get a bit of lag if I quickly select an app after unlocking the phone).
Yes, I've tried InteractiveX and OndemandX - they're both absolute rubbish (at least from my point of view). Both responsiveness and benchmark results were dismal (2800-3300 quadrant advanced). These are governors for anally retentive battery life lovers. Nothing wrong with that itself but beats the purpose when buying state of the art top shelf performance smartphone IMO.
Good to know. I appreciate the advice. Does that mean you also tried smartassv2 with the FM kernel? Any discernible difference between that and interactive, if you have? And sorry for all the questions but it saves me the trouble of trying them!
I just flashed the 1.3 FM a moment ago. Now running 100-1704 smartassv2, haven't played with voltages yet. Responsiveness in terms of screen scolling, lags & stutters seems better than 200-1400 interactive. Performance in Quadrant Advanced and Nenamark2 seems a tiny bit worse (but I don't really care about that, I use benchmarks only to roughly estimate, smoothness is what I'm after). I can't give you direct sources because I don't remember, but having spent several hours digging last weekend I concluded that for people who put performance slighly over battery life governors to be considered are interactive, smartass(v2), savagedzed and performance. Funny enough - I'm getting consistently worse benchmarks on performance governor on all kernels. I wonder why?
Thanks again. I will play around with some of the governors and settings to find the right fit. I think I will try savagedzen next but I am pretty happy with smartassv2 and may just stick with it.
Handy explanation of most of the governor options available in custom Note kernels: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1369817
AND
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1242323
Smartassv2 and vr. After reading a bit about it they seem to be the best for performance and balanced battery life.
i share with you my SetCPU config, voltage ...
it's very stable for me. It's not performance oriented but battery friendly.
what you think ?
EDIT : I use AbyssNote Kernel 1.2
I'm getting nice results here on FM Kernel 1.3. 1704mHz (1375mV) - 100mHz (775mV), lulzactive governor. 5000-5872 in Quadrant advanced, 32-35 in Nenamark2. Battery life good with low to med usage, poor when playing games, running satnav etc. - hardly a surprise We'll see about stability but so far so good.
This thread is finally picking off ! thank you all
I am currently on FM 1.3 and preferring lulzactive
I don't use any over clocking I guess I don't dare. is it safe?
I think i'm pretty aggressive with under voltage i'm running 1175mv at 1400mhz and 775mv at 200mhz. For some reason my phone freezes any time I use the 100mhz no matter the voltage .
Can you share the whole voltage for a comparison ?
with all this I can hardly get a full day of use with my battery but I guess I'm a pretty heavy on usage. no gaming or anything extensive but wifi-browsing-emails-3g-bluetooth all day
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For some reason my phone freezes any time I use the 100mhz no matter the voltage .
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I read on some other kernel thread that Samsung's implementation of the 100mhz step is incomplete/buggy. That's probably why it doesn't work properly.
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i have a htc evo 4g running android 2.3.5 and kernel 2.6.35.10-g4b48446 [email protected] #1 and i have a few questions on setcpu. its a stock rom and it is rooted.
I shut off my profiles and disabled the perflock - it said success. So i ran the long bench test and only got 2078 ms, not 5000. so i dont know if its really working. I reengaged the profiles and i think it works with the screen off. the rest of the time i am not so sure. in fact it seems to still drain fairly rapidly unless i turn on some battery saver or something. I have the following settings on my profile all are set to ondemand except charging which is set to performance. the only other setting i can choose is user
in call 998 max and 245 min priority 91
screen off 384 max and 245 min priority 88
charging any 998 max and 245 min priority 85
battery <25% 460 max 245 min priority 81
bbattery <50% 883 max 245 min priority 65
Temp> 42 C 614 max 245 min priority 50
what am i doing wrong? I have it enabled and i have notifications off
i have system panel to try and monitor but its not recording and it also drains the battery like crazy so i think thats set wrong as well but i dont know why.
i also tried juice defender but it doesnt work right because it says the AOSP file isnt found in the system/app folder. I looked there and also in teh data/app folder and its not there. So i dont know what to do about that.
thanks
stock sense is just not all that efficient really. (well thats my opinion) profiles seem to look ok but also finding a different kernel with different governors (smartass v2 is rather efficient and changing around the frequencies as needed)
auto sync settings as well? turning some stuff of that you dont use or look at and so on can help too
and calibrating battery a bit can help aka a full discharge a full charge and full discharge will sure help (also what i have found personally)
kernels
thanks for the reply. You mentioned different kernels. I understand about rooting my phone but not so much about how to load a different kernel or different rom. Where do i go to learn about that?
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thanks for the reply. You mentioned different kernels. I understand about rooting my phone but not so much about how to load a different kernel or different rom. Where do i go to learn about that?
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look around in the development section as there are some great kernels available right now...Ca1ne just released a new version of the underworld SBC v6 that i personally like with great battery life ...Mason kernels are also great with great battery...just make sure u read the threads completely to make sure u are using the right kernel for the rom u are using...ie there are kernels for ics...sense....and so on......also the kernels load through recovery...just load kernel to sd and wipe cashe and dalvik and flash zip...hope this helps...Carp
Hi another question about kernels. I am a bit of a newbie other than rooting my phone so i want to understand what advantages/disadvantages different kernels have. You mentioned smartassv2. i have seen others like
chopsuey kernal
freedom kernel
golden monkey kernel
savaged-zen kernel
tiamat kernel
all of these i think support sense roms.
as i understand it , you have to go into the recovery screen and load hte zip file off the sd card and reboot with the new kernel. What are the risks/rewards of doing so? I guess i am trying to understand which one would suit me best.
i have the current sprint lovers rom i guess since it is factory stock so should i also be considering changing the rom? Maybe i am getting ahead of myself here.
thank you again.
which rom are u wanting to run....this will help us steer u in the right direction
im sorry your entire post didnt load on my end i see ur running sprint stock....that is a fine rom but i have not ran it myself....
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i personally have switched to sbc kernels when they came out with a sense version...i am addicted to sense 3.5...just my personal likings...sbc is superior battery charging whichcarp will give u better full charge on your battery so when the light turns green and u unplug it it wont drop down to like 90% battery in just a few mins....i can squeeze another couple hours out of my battery with sbc and even more depending on light usage....but u will stil need to play around with different cpu speeds like 786..921 and so on to see what your individual evo can stand....what works for 1 may or will not work for another....lags and bootloops etc...
You don't need to change Roms, you can if you want, but changing kernels will unleash new features. Some features are:
Full hdmi mirroring
The ability to over/under clock CPU
2 way call recording
Improve battery charging
Enable swap space
Improved performance of phone
Some kernels allow under volting CPU to further save battery (this can cause some stability issues so start slow with undervolting)
You may want to take a look at Lionfish kernel also, just note first boot may take a while.
Also ditch the profiles in set CPU, I tried profiles and it never seemed to work right. A good governor will handle all your profile settings.
I like smartass, and intellidemand the most on my set up.
As an idea ok the battery life I am getting, I streamed Pandora over 3g for about 8 hours not much other phone use, screen off most of the time, and my phone was at like 20 %. I thought that was pretty good.
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thanks detcup4evr for helping out explaining that better...i blew out my back and between no sleep and pain meds the brain just dont want to fire...thanks for stepping in bro....carp
smartassV2 vs InteractiveX ... which one giver better performance AND battery life??? currently I am running LIONFISH 1.8 with interactive X
Using profiles in setcpu actually uses more battery life. Because it has to be running all the time and monitoring phone state to know when to change to a different profile.
interactiveX vs smartassv2 all depends on how you use the phone and really which kernel it is. I've noticed little things like on mason's I got better battery with smartassv2 but on other kernels I get better battery with interactiveX. As far as performance, you won't realize a difference.
ok so it sounds like i should try the sbc sense 3.5 kernel with the smartassv2 governor. Did i get that right? i will look around to see where i can download that.
Were you refering to this kernel?
Underworld Sense Kernel v0.6
yes this is the kernel i run with ODJDub HD Bliss!! Sense 3.5...if u choose to run this rom it will give u alot of different options of kernels and apps and other things from the installer....if i can help u more just feel glad to hit me up....carp
Ok so with lionfish 1.8 kernel and interactivex, I should not use a profile? What does CPU go to on screen off? also where does it mention profiles use battery? I'd like to read more into this..
Thanks
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Sense rom with Underworld v 0.6
At Carp -
thank you for the advice. I was thinking maybe i would use my ROM still (its a sense i believe) and load the underworld v0.6 kernel with sbc and see how that goes. I havent done very much research on ROMs so i dont know that i want to get that deep into this just yet. It seems like underworld has alot of nice features. One thing that i am wonderig though is with the new kernel would have any further ability to unload some of the sprint bloatware or do i need a new rom to do that or is there another way to do it? Things like qik video , gmail, accuweather blockbuster etc all load themselves periodically. I kill them but then they come back like weeds. Even programs i do like , like pandora, wheres my droid etc come back also. But i dont want them to.
no u will be fine getting rid of apps and bloatware u dont wont...u wont need a special rom....i use a free app in the market called root uninstaller to get rid of useless bloatware,apps etc...then u can go in and manually uninstall what u don't want...be careful not to uninstall anything which the phone needs to boot and operate such as android system...you will see the things u are looking for when u load the app...hope this helps...carp
I actually did something unusual.
I have universal aggressive lionfish SBC 1.8, swagged out stock N, and smartassv2
I set the ideal, sleep, and wake freq for smartass v2 to 128, while setting the up rate to 245. I used set cpu to lower the min freq for my device to 128. I set max load to 100, and min load to 85, and down time to 0. I then set a profile for "ondemand" during screen off, of 128-384.
I actually have pretty awesome battery life (I'm an uber heavy user).
Sometimes it reads that I spend over 70% of my time at 128mhz.
I feel no lag. It clocks to 998mhz maybe 15% of the time, mainly when loading web pages.
flashed underworld v 0.6
Hi Carp,
well, i flashed the underworld v 0.6. So i see in set cpu that i can underclock to 128 and overclock to 1228. however, i slid the slider over to 1228 by accident and it froze the phone even though it says its still at 998 mhz. then it rebooted by itself. so i guess that wasnt a good idea. Anyway, theres a ton of governor choices now in the profiles section. i am not familiar with alot of them but i was wondering which of those would provide the most benefit. they are as follows -
ondemandx
interactive x
intellidemand
smartass
interactive
conservative
smartass 2v2
performance
along with ondemand and user space from before.
thanks
Good to hear....u will need to try different settings as each evo will be a little different...ie.. some can take alot of overclock and as u said when u went to high it locked up......my evo likes min 245 and i dont go very little over 998...mine does not like high overclock....i run between 768 and 998 or until i can see a lag or slow down in performance..depends on which rom i am running...i like ondemand x and smartass 2 on my evo but there is a good read in papa smurph's smurphed out v6.6 thread in development on governors and such...go to post #2....i wish there was a perfect setting i could give u but u will have to see what your evo can take...part of the fun of android.....carp
Governors
Thanks carp. I guess experimentation is the only way to know. i charged my phone last night ad i noticed that it does take alot longer to go from 100% charge to 90% but i also noticed that the phone temp was at like 110 deg F and a voltage around 4.263 or so. i have read some thread where they claim its bad for the Lithium ion batt to be over 4.2 V but as soon as i unplug it it drops to 4.1 something usually. I am using battery indicator app to measure it. i am using the underworld w/sbc kernal currently but the voltage being higher has me a bit concerned that i am damaging the battery kind of like pumping water into a jar with the the lid on tight til it bursts. Or in the batteries case - too hot i guess or until it plates.
Hi guys,
I have the 855 version of this phone, and I have noticed that, even if Antutu scores are spot on (44k), in games such as GT racing 2 or similar I get a lot of lag.
Now, everyone will think "there are 1000 threads about lag, stick to those". Unfortunately, tricks such as getting rid of the thermal protection are really not good options, as the phone temperature will start to skyrocket.
There's a much easier and safer solution: root the phone and change the governor from interactive to conservative.
With interactive gov and CPU temp open in the background, I have noticed the CPU frequency bounces continuously up and down between 300mhz and 2400, even if the CPU temp is only 55c or so. This is causing the lag! Interactive governor is severely bugged, and this happens with any rom (I have tried both the stock 20h and the ChupaChups 4.2) and kernel (non AOSP at least).
Then, I switched to conservative, launched the game again, and guess what....now the frequency is nicely stable at 2457mhz throughout the entire gameplay and lag is gone completely. Temperatures? Totally fine: max 60c while playing and usually between 35 and 40 while whatsapping.
I literally tried everything to get rid of this damn lag, and the only thing that worked before this solution was to use a different kernel (chupa chups 2.1) and changing the governor...but I was getting crazy high temperatures, that sometimes touched 80c, and this was with a very heavy undervolt too! So I recommend to use the stock kernel, because it's the only one - for me at least - that grants good performances (and by that I mean no lag in games whatsoever and constant 2450mhz while playing) with good temperatures.
Any other option, including undervolting and trying different kernels didn't work for me, because either the CPU frequency kept shifting up and down every second causing lag, or - when I managed to keep it stable using different kernels and undervolting - the CPU temperature while playing got way too high (70c+, touching 80c sometimes).
To sum it up
1) Stick to stock rom and stock kernel (because of temperature issues)
2) Root
3) Change governor from interactive to conservative with Trickstermod (busybox required)
4) Enjoy smooth gaming experience and very good temperatures, with no significant throttle whatsoever!
Hope this helps!
as far as i know, conservative puts the cpu speed into the lowest possible, thus i thought won't be good for gaming performance.
nevertheless, i'd try for a few days and see if there's any noticeable difference.
thanks for sharing the knowledge, OP!
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as far as i know, conservative puts the cpu speed into the lowest possible, thus i thought won't be good for gaming performance.
nevertheless, i'd try for a few days and see if there's any noticeable difference.
thanks for sharing the knowledge, OP!
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Theoretically you are right. But...interactive is bugged. Ondemand doesn't work (it will make your phone freeze) and performance will drain too much battery. So we are pretty much left with conservative.
Give it a try, and when you do, make sure you have CPU temp open to monitor both temperature and cpu frequency!
Let me know
Thank you! It really did the trick, gaming became MUCH better.
I tried RR3 - it became a lot better. On interactive it lags even in menu, on conservative it's rendering at 23-30 fps with slight not-game-breaking lags.
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And about the battery? Will drain more in conservative than interactive? And will speed up the phone in all app or only in heavy games, when cpu is more active?
YaDr said:
Thank you! It really did the trick, gaming became MUCH better.
I tried RR3 - it became a lot better. On interactive it lags even in menu, on conservative it's rendering at 23-30 fps with slight not-game-breaking lags.
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Cool! Glad this worked for you. What's your full load cpu temp?
Delgadovsky said:
And about the battery? Will drain more in conservative than interactive? And will speed up the phone in all app or only in heavy games, when cpu is more active?
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I wouldn't worry about battery life..
It seems that this working generally, phone is much snappier and smooth for me than on interactive.
Yeah...the reason is that LG did an awful job with the interactive governor, and what's even worse is that it's actually using it as the default one.
Pretty incredible how bugged this is.
Yes but I think it's possible to make script in init.d folder to run conservative on boot as default. Maybe someone make one.
I Will try this ☺only for curiosity! I need busybox installed too or trickstermod only?
I've been doing the same thing for a long time now. I use SetCPU to automatically switch to the performance governor whenever the screen is on, and interactive whenever the screen is off.
You may also want to consider disabling mpdecision and thermald also. One of the two (probably mpdecision) will regularly change the governor back to interactive if you don't.
gianrond said:
Cool! Glad this worked for you. What's your full load cpu temp?
I wouldn't worry about battery life..
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about 80°
I'm running Rin kernel with Lionheart governor on stock kit kat on a D850. It's ages better than interactive. I have plenty of governors to choose from, I'll slowly try them all.
omegajester said:
I'm running Rin kernel with Lionheart governor on stock kit kat on a D850. It's ages better than interactive. I have plenty of governors to choose from, I'll slowly try them all.
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That works to get rid of the lag...but my phone was reaching easily 80c.
Now, with everything stock, the frequency stays nicely at 2457mhz with no throttle at all and the in-game temperature only maxes out at 63/64c.
Thanks for sharing this brother...just switched to conservative in trickster and I'll see how it goes.
I'm on crash Rom stock kernel with thermal mod activated...
Don't have any temperature issues till now expert while playing heavy games for some time.
Thanks again
Are the settings in trickstermod applied as you change the setting ? Or do you need to apply them manually ?
Also, do they apply on boot ?
I will try that, thx for the info.
Now how i can put it to change on boot?
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JohnRM said:
Are the settings in trickstermod applied as you change the setting ? Or do you need to apply them manually ?
Also, do they apply on boot ?
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On the latest trickster version you hit the upper right settings icon and the first four option that appear are under the set on boot part.check the kernel setting to be set on boot and you are done.
Of course after changing the governor that is...
danielferrari said:
I will try that, thx for the info.
Now how i can put it to change on boot?
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I tested the "on boot' options and didnt work here.
Someone can run a benchmark with this mod? Mine was 38880 in interactive and 23000 with conservative lol
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danielferrari said:
I tested the "on boot' options and didnt work here.
Someone can run a benchmark with this mod? Mine was 38880 in interactive and 23000 with conservative lol
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41k with conservative here, and latest v20i. Everything stock.