FML! I went ahead and did it! I mentioned that I hadn't had an SOD or reboot since ICS and now enraged the gods of karma and pulled down on myself a wrath unlike any other!
Yes, I have a problem that I call the Black Shroud of Death. Using transformer and the backlight goes out. I click the power on and I see the backlight go on but I don't see anything on the screen. Hmm, figure that I must have gotten my first SOD or maybe a misbehaving app is FC'ing. So I reboot, the ASUS logo flashes a bunch of times and then it goes to a black screen...backlight is still on though. It never "seems" to boot. I reboot a couple of times and it repeats the same process.
Then something odd happens, when playing with the power and volume keys I notice the lock screen for a second appears. Playing around more and suddenly I see the lock screen BUT only if I hold the volume keys. So, it IS booting but for some reason, the display is unable to show graphics. The backlight is on too so it's not a backlight issue.
I am able to unlock and I start disabling settings(I'm on Megatron) in hopes to hit on the cause of this issue. I release the keys and I'm back to the Black Shroud again! If I'm lucky, I can make it reboot into recovery where I don't need to hold keys to see options.
I tried downgrading to a different GAPPS version as I had previously upgraded and wanted to see if that's the problem. While it boot, the typical gapps upgrade screens were flashing like crazy.
I tried reflashing my ROM but that didn't seem to do anything.
My guess is that I need to completely power down and clear out some bad crap in the video memory. I opened the back of the unit but couldn't figure out how to pull the battery cable. I did manage to ruin some plastic clips on the bottom or something, so yeah the less than perfect bottom fit is now fun. So, my next step is to let it power down, charge it up and see what happens.
Any advice...other than don't enrage the Gods?
Skyeclad said:
FML! I went ahead and did it! I mentioned that I hadn't had an SOD or reboot since ICS and now enraged the gods of karma and pulled down on myself a wrath unlike any other!
Yes, I have a problem that I call the Black Shroud of Death. Using transformer and the backlight goes out. I click the power on and I see the backlight go on but I don't see anything on the screen. Hmm, figure that I must have gotten my first SOD or maybe a misbehaving app is FC'ing. So I reboot, the ASUS logo flashes a bunch of times and then black screen...backlight is still on though. It never "seems" to boot. I reboot a couple of times and it repeats the same process.
Then something odd happens, when playing with the power and volume keys I notice the lock screen for a second appears. laying around more and suddenly I see the lock screen BUT only if I hold the volume keys. So, it IS booting but for some reason, the display is unable to show graphics. The backlight is on too so it's not a backlight issue.
I am able to unlock and I start disabling settings(I'm on Megatron) in hopes to hit on the cause of this issue. I release the keys and I'm back to the Black Shroud again! If I'm lucky, I can make it reboot into recovery where I don't need to hold keys to see options.
I tried going down to a different GAPPS version as I had previously upgraded and wanted to see if that's the problem. While it boot, the typical gapps upgrade screens were flashing like crazy.
I tried reflashing my ROM but that didn't seem to do anything.
My guess is that I need to completely power down and clear out some bad crap in the video memory. I opened the back of the unit but couldn't figure out how to pull the battery cable. I did manage to ruin some plastic clips on the bottom or something, so yeah the less than perfect bottom fit is now fun. So, my next step is to let it power down, charge it up and see what happens.
Any advice...other than don't enrage the Gods?
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Sorry, this post isn't going to help, but I literally laughed out loud when I saw
Skyeclad said:
FML! I went ahead and did it! I mentioned that I hadn't had an SOD or reboot since ICS and now enraged the gods of karma and pulled down on myself a wrath unlike any other!
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in the preview of the post. Lol
Maybe I should delete my original Karma-Killing post as a start.
Well, it certainly doesn't sound like a software issue to me. I would exchange it for another.
a.mcdear said:
Well, it certainly doesn't sound like a software issue to me. I would exchange it for another.
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It might not be software but I can see the recovery screen so I have some reasons to believe it could still be software. Unfortunately, if I try to RMA, they're going to say that I voided the warranty....because I probably did by opening the case AND running a cooked ROM. So, they'll fix it but as a service. I'm not sure it would be worth the cost.
Wait for the next update. I tried sending it in for repair. No change what so ever. If it is software you got me beat on the weirdest ICS bug.
yanbo2012 said:
Wait for the next update. I tried sending it in for repair. No change what so ever. If it is software you got me beat on the weirdest ICS bug.
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Yeah, I think it's some corrupted memory that sticks around after reboot. At least I hope so. When I get home tonight I'm going to charge it up and see if the power draining helped.
If not...well, it might be time to think about my next tablet. I'm interested in seeing how the "Google Play Tablet" turns out as their might be integration with home theater stuff. Then there's the updated Transformers or maybe the iPad. Yeah, I know iOS is boring as hell but it has lots of tablet apps and gets new one's first. I'm kind of getting tired of seeing...."Coming for Android".
Skyeclad said:
Yeah, I think it's some corrupted memory that sticks around after reboot. At least I hope so. When I get home tonight I'm going to charge it up and see if the power draining helped.
If not...well, it might be time to think about my next tablet. I'm interested in seeing how the "Google Play Tablet" turns out as their might be integration with home theater stuff. Then there's the updated Transformers or maybe the iPad. Yeah, I know iOS is boring as hell but it has lots of tablet apps and gets new one's first. I'm kind of getting tired of seeing...."Coming for Android".
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Yea, you screwed up by opening it. You might as well upgrade if all else fails. I'd hold off on another transformer for as long as I can though if I were you...already hearing about minor defects in tf300s such as light bleeding.
Then there's always the...iPad...but make sure you update if you get one! Jailbreak that MF first and then you'd be good to go. My dad wants me to jailbreak his iPad 2, but it doesn't help that he's "update happy"
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I opened the back of the unit but couldn't figure out how to pull the battery cable. I did manage to ruin some plastic clips on the bottom or something, so yeah the less than perfect bottom fit is now fun. So, my next step is to let it power down, charge it up and see what happens.
Any advice...other than don't enrage the Gods?
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So, with some plastic clips damaged. Does it close properly now?
The battery cable should be either soldered onto the board or it uses zip cconnector. Nowadays cable/ribbon cable uses zip connector on motherboard.
And not all TF101/G would have 100% perfectly & exactly the same and this might giving you a little not so perfect in term of tiny capacitances on the board. This little components sometimes don't hold voltages that good as they should. Thus giving some trapped voltages and having your battery connected makes this trapped voltages remain in it. The best option now is to drained your TF101 completely and stay drained for another day(this is to let the capacitances drain its trapped voltages). The next time you boot and it might just solved your problem..
farsight73 said:
So, with some plastic clips damaged. Does it close properly now?
The battery cable should be either soldered onto the board or it uses zip cconnector. Nowadays cable/ribbon cable uses zip connector on motherboard.
And not all TF101/G would have 100% perfectly & exactly the same and this might giving you a little not so perfect in term of tiny capacitances on the board. This little components sometimes don't hold voltages that good as they should. Thus giving some trapped voltages and having your battery connected makes this trapped voltages remain in it. The best option now is to drained your TF101 completely and stay drained for another day(this is to let the capacitances drain its trapped voltages). The next time you boot and it might just solved your problem..
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Almost, there's a slight bulge in the bottom but it fits on the dock.
Unfortunately, I think it's a hardware problem. I tried unbricking the device using NVFlash to load stock ICS but the entire time the screen never displayed anything. It didn't look like the entire Flash job completed and I can't get the back light to turn on now. I can't even tell if it's charging.
Anything more I can try before I chalk this up to a brick?
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Almost, there's a slight bulge in the bottom but it fits on the dock.
Unfortunately, I think it's a hardware problem. I tried unbricking the device using NVFlash to load stock ICS but the entire time the screen never displayed anything. It didn't look like the entire Flash job completed and I can't get the back light to turn on now. I can't even tell if it's charging.
Anything more I can try before I chalk this up to a brick?
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Have you tried leaving it for a day or two in total battery drained??
List you could do/perform.
1) NVflash works on B60 and below.. check yours
2) Put it in a freezer for a night
3) Dissemble again and see if anything disconnected or loose since the last time you open it.
4) Smell it and see if anything like burn smell around the motherboard(this could be over voltage from a weak components).
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If all above still yielled the same result..
5) Check and see if your TF101 could survive 2 storey height drop..
Good Luck..
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Have you tried leaving it for a day or two in total battery drained??
List you could do/perform.
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2) Put it in a freezer for a night
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Good Luck..
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A lot of LCD screens can be damaged by freezing, unless you know that the TF is safe I would not freeze it.
OK, I managed to unbrick the device but I still can't see any video. Backlight is working fine and I can output to HDMI. Digitizer is also working fine as I can manipulate the screen and see the result on the TV.
So, now that I'm at stock ICS and can output video. Does this narrow it down to an LCD problem? If so, is there a loose wire I can check? Am I likely going to have to send it to ASUS for repair?
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OK, I managed to unbrick the device but I still can't see any video. Backlight is working fine and I can output to HDMI. Digitizer is also working fine as I can manipulate the screen and see the result on the TV.
So, now that I'm at stock ICS and can output video. Does this narrow it down to an LCD problem? If so, is there a loose wire I can check? Am I likely going to have to send it to ASUS for repair?
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Lol, didn't you already take it apart before?
I2IEAILiiTY said:
Lol, didn't you already take it apart before?
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Yes, but at the time I was looking for a cable that I could loosen, now I'm looking for a cable to tighten. Fml, yes it sounds stupid but I'm at the point where I need to decide if a repair or replacement is the next step. I'm not thrilled with anything out there.
Almost exactly the same problem here...
I have a very similar problem to yours right now; the screen on my TF101 is entirely black but the backlight is on and i can output through HDMI fine. I'm still under warranty but i can't RMA it at the moment as it is running Android Revolution HD and i need to restore it to stock Asus TW firmware before they would fix it. Problem is Rogue XM Recovery is not able to output through HDMI ;p, so now i have to wait for someone to post screenshots/pictures on a thread that i started showing the menu for the recovery and the other screens involving wiping the dalvik cache and installing from zip file. Any closer to solving the problem?
I had the same problem of the backlight being on but no video. It worked over the hdmi but that was it. I had to send in my unit via a RMA to get it fixed.
Thankfully it was under warranty so they fixed it. Did you drop your unit?
MeLikes said:
I have a very similar problem to yours right now; the screen on my TF101 is entirely black but the backlight is on and i can output through HDMI fine. I'm still under warranty but i can't RMA it at the moment as it is running Android Revolution HD and i need to restore it to stock Asus TW firmware before they would fix it. Problem is Rogue XM Recovery is not able to output through HDMI ;p, so now i have to wait for someone to post screenshots/pictures on a thread that i started showing the menu for the recovery and the other screens involving wiping the dalvik cache and installing from zip file. Any closer to solving the problem?
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Just out of curiosity, why not nvflash your way back to stock? I did because I couldn't find my HDMI mini cable. I haven't opened my tablet again. I'm going to try to RMA it.
try to nvflash stock rom and start over? that would your best chance....
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using xda premium
Well first of all i don't know how to use NVflash, and secondly i have a B70 transformer so i don't know if it will work. Also i need to flash the stock Taiwan firmware because that's the original firmware that came with it and i can't find instructions for that. Just wondering though does flashing the stock rom using NVflash also install the stock recovery?
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Hi Guys,
My N7 just arrived and it worked great out of the box - wifi connected, Google account connected. JB 4.1 pre-installed... then...
After about an hour of the tablet being on it came-up with a update request to take it from 4.1 to 4.1.1 - i accepted with the power lead in and power on.
The software lost control on the screen leaving it black with various shades of grey streaks across it. These change when the screen is touched - indicating the software is probably good underneath but the screen visual interface has crashed. Probably the display driver chip needs power cycling, else a feature of 4.1.1 is faulty in hardware?
Does anyone know how to recover from this - as there is no external hardware reset, the battery can't be removed, etc ?
I called Google (Call us at 0800 328 6081) and the guy told me to hold the power button in for 10 seconds which I did but the N7 just went off and came back on the same.
He then told me to hold in vol-up and vol-dwn buttons before holding in the power button. Again the device went off but came back on the same.
I include a picture of the N7 display after the unsuccessful 4.1.1 update.
Image https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B3oSwFvF1cmebXE4S2lvZlNlU0E
Cab
Also beware that lack of pirates is the the cause of global warming...
http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikaan...he-lack-of-pirates-is-causing-global-warming/
Looks like a defective unit. Not sure what pirates have to do with it.
Via my HTC Rezound
CrazyPeter said:
Also beware that lack of pirates is the the cause of global warming...
http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikaan...he-lack-of-pirates-is-causing-global-warming/
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Thank you for being a productive member of this community, xda would not survive without you.
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Not a good sign that it's doing it in fastboot mode. You can try leaving it in fastboot mode to drain the battery then plug it in and try again. Or, search for the instructions to reapply the stock 4.1 image. If those don't work then RMA it.
That looks very familiar.
A few minutes after the update (which I installed about 10 minutes in to receiving my new Nexus 7) I immediately had a total screen lockup/crash with lovely multicolours.
After that, any subsequent reboot/factory reset, the lockups continued and became more an more frequent until after just a day the device was completely unuseable.
I don't think the update caused it. I think it's factory defective and probably related to a messed-up Tegra 3.
Thanks for the feedback guys - I'm gonna RTM it as advised. A good unit shouldn't go wrong at all when just out of the box with no 'normal' or 'strange' apps added. It just had pure google stock on it.
cabello123 said:
Hi Guys,
My N7 just arrived and it worked great out of the box - wifi connected, Google account connected. JB 4.1 pre-installed... then...
After about an hour of the tablet being on it came-up with a update request to take it from 4.1 to 4.1.1 - i accepted with the power lead in and power on.
The software lost control on the screen leaving it black with various shades of grey streaks across it. These change when the screen is touched - indicating the software is probably good underneath but the screen visual interface has crashed. Probably the display driver chip needs power cycling, else a feature of 4.1.1 is faulty in hardware?
Does anyone know how to recover from this - as there is no external hardware reset, the battery can't be removed, etc ?
I called Google and the guy told me to hold the power button in for 10 seconds which I did but the N7 just went off and came back on the same.
He then told me to hold in vol-up and vol-dwn buttons before holding in the power button. Again the device went off but came back on the same.
Cab
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Ok, I was about to post this very thing. Mine went red. Bright red. Nothing worked. Took it back to the store and it turned on fine and looked good...until the manager took it and flexed it a bit. Then, bam. Everything flickered and turned red.
So now I have new one (N7 16gig) and its working great. But the alert comes on telling me to upgrade to the 4.1.1. No way in Hell!! It's an hour drive back to the store to get another.
So what's the solution. Anyone else have this happening?
That is a very strange thing to happen. Although I dont think you should tell people to beware of upgrading the tablet because it makes it sound like it will happen to all tablets when upgrading. When I did mine it happened with no issues whatsoever.
jonnyg1097 said:
That is a very strange thing to happen. Although I dont think you should tell people to beware of upgrading the tablet because it makes it sound like it will happen to all tablets when upgrading. When I did mine it happened with no issues whatsoever.
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I was not telling people to beware of upgrading. I was asking if others had experienced this.
cr2crf said:
I was not telling people to beware of upgrading. I was asking if others had experienced this.
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So I finally updated the os to 4.1.1 Success. Hoping this little tab keeps going. The more I play with it the more I am glad I got it and not a 10 incher
Were these affected units stock unrooted? As a general rule you always want to revert back to stock unrooted before applying any OTA updates.
I bought my TF300 at Amazon June and basically it works well until yesterday.
The sympton is like someone keep tapping the specific areas of touchscreen and never stop, actually i haven't put my finger on ,even i didn't hold the tablet, just put it on desktop.
I had to tried to hold the power button to restart the TF300 several times and finally it looks become normal.
But this morning, when i power it on, the problem occurred.
Anyone have idea this problem ?
Weird. Do you have a screen protector on? If you do, you might need to take it off. If you don't, try cleaning your screen with the cloth it came with, also do a cold reboot (this is done by turning off your tablet then turning it back on holding the volume down button until you see some text in the upper left of the screen, after that just leave the tablet do he's thing, meaning don't touch anything else until it boots up). If that doesn't fix the problem, you will need to try to do a factory reset. If that fails to fix the problem I suggest you contact ASUS support or if its still under amazon's warranty exchange for a new one.
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Weird. Do you have a screen protector on? If you do, you might need to take it off. If you don't, try cleaning your screen with the cloth it came with, also do a cold reboot (this is done by turning off your tablet then turning it back on holding the volume down button until you see some text in the upper left of the screen, after that just leave the tablet do he's thing, meaning don't touch anything else until it boots up). If that doesn't fix the problem, you will need to try to do a factory reset. If that fails to fix the problem I suggest you contact ASUS support or if its still under amazon's warranty exchange for a new one.
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Thanks for your suggestion.
I found a member had the some problem. See thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1653178
I gotta to contact ASUS local first.
A friend of mine bought it in Amazon U.S for me and bring it to China, which makes me hard to exchange ( International post fee and custom tax).
I had that problem
abczhou said:
I bought my TF300 at Amazon June and basically it works well until yesterday.
The sympton is like someone keep tapping the specific areas of touchscreen and never stop, actually i haven't put my finger on ,even i didn't hold the tablet, just put it on desktop.
I had to tried to hold the power button to restart the TF300 several times and finally it looks become normal.
But this morning, when i power it on, the problem occurred.
Anyone have idea this problem ?
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Mine wasn't picking when I pressed on the screen... I open the back and saw a ribbon cable was kinda loose and held with tape. So I pressed it in and put more tape on it and now its fine with the response from the screen.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1764971
I think u have the same problem as i do.
I have just applied a capdase matt screen protector. I am currently testing out if the problem is here or.not.
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abczhou said:
I bought my TF300 at Amazon June and basically it works well until yesterday.
The sympton is like someone keep tapping the specific areas of touchscreen and never stop, actually i haven't put my finger on ,even i didn't hold the tablet, just put it on desktop.
I had to tried to hold the power button to restart the TF300 several times and finally it looks become normal.
But this morning, when i power it on, the problem occurred.
Anyone have idea this problem ?
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I've noticed differences touch responsiveness between different roms. What are you using?
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I've noticed differences touch responsiveness between different roms. What are you using?
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its a faulty digitizer - i have the same. you can check with phone tester and see if you moce the tab that the screen is seeing inputs (touches) that shouldnt be there.
(see my vid: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=28416198&postcount=9 )
cheers
stock rom , US .30 ,i think.
It rooted.
since the day i posted the problem here,i used out the battery and recharged it to full,the issue didnt happen again.
what i can recall that before the problem happened,i had connectd it to my PC by USB cable,maybe it is another clue about cause.
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yes,i am using the screen protector since the firstday I owned it, it works well until that day I met problem . I recalled I had connected the tablet to PC with USB cable once, in other thread ,same problem happened after it removed from dock, probably it is the clue for cause
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Fix for touchscreen issues
Hey guys,
I thought I'd post my solution to the same problem. It is a hardware issue and I figured it was because of how thin the device is. Basically, I noticed it when I would be playing or if the device started to heat up. Since the battery and screen are so close together, I figured there wasn't enough space and that the heat from the battery was making the tablet think that there was a touch input when there was none.
My solution was to open up the tablet and take the battery out. Then I put slivers of foam (about 1/2" x 2") in between the battery and the screen. Since then I haven't had problems with the touchscreen.
I hope this helps you guys with this problem.
Hi Guys,
After I "replaced" the screen,it was blank, yet booting and visible to computer,
I decided to recheck - and switched to the old screen. It didn't work either!
So now I have two sceens but non is functional
Any ideas?
Btw, i found this topic
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2529791
but there is no solution
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Hi Guys,
After I "replaced" the screen,it was blank, yet booting and visible to computer,
I decided to recheck - and switched to the old screen. It didn't work either!
So now I have two sceens but non
Any ideas?
Btw, i found this topic
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2529791
but there is no solution
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Got the same problem right now, trying to solve it. Was about to post new topic but saw yours. Can you boot your device into bootloader? Mine seems to be able to do that and I see everything but once it shows the Google logo during normal boot or recovery, the screen goes dark and blank.
Very mysterious indeed, never seen this issue before...
Hoping someone can shed some light on this...
deltatux
Can you remind me of how you did it?
Cause vol up+power\vol down+power won't work for me
What screen have you bought?
Cause I was super anxious about getting original Hydis, now chungwa they now sell everywhere
at first, I would think that I somehow messed uo the cable - but if you are saying, that you are able to boot
mystery!
I guess, we need some experienced service man here
ilgeor said:
Can you remind me of how you did it?
Cause vol up+power\vol down+power won't work for me
What screen have you bought?
Cause I was super anxious about getting original Hydis, now chungwa they now sell everywhere
at first, I would think that I somehow messed uo the cable - but if you are saying, that you are able to boot
mystery!
I guess, we need some experienced service man here
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Vol down + power. Though upon further reassembly, it seemed to get worse. Now my screen won't even light up or show anything. Try shining a flashlight on the LCD panel. Do you see anything? If you do, it's likely a bad data cable. In which case, you should find one on eBay.
deltatux
It isn't working at all(
But I can't be 100% sure, cause I've so many change cycles
Buying things on ebay means +1 month of waiting, so I'd prefer to know exactly, will the new cable heal me tablet
Anyway, have you decided, what happened to your screen?
ilgeor said:
It isn't working at all(
But I can't be 100% sure, cause I've so many change cycles
Buying things on ebay means +1 month of waiting, so I'd prefer to know exactly, will the new cable heal me tablet
Anyway, have you decided, what happened to your screen?
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For me since I shone a light and there is something showing underneath and I know that the panel should work since I did see a Google logo and fastboot did properly show up before I reassembled it again 2 times before it completely disappeared, It's likely the data cable, so I repurchased a data cable from eBay.
Have you tried shining a light on to the LCD panel to see if you see anything? If not, it's likely a faulty LCD panel.
deltatux
I assume bricked is the right term. And I'm pleading for some help here on what I can try before I call Google Support again.
Here is the quick run down: Bought 2 Nexus 6P, (Gray - Me), (White - Wife). Wife bricks her phone in 15 days, screen seems to work when held at different angles, can't seem to get it to stay on permanently, acts almost like an old VCR where it will partially draw the screen horizontally. Almost like a loose connector. It only stays on for milliseconds at a time, not long enough to factory reset or do anything remotely useful. Holding power for 8 seconds doesn't help. Holding power and both volumes does not help. Just to clarify, device is running, screen is black. Not a boot issue per say as a screen issue. Could previously hear her get alerts, can't right now (only see a battery icon). Since the screen is the main issue, I'm flailing in the dark as to where I am at any given point in time.
I assume how she uses the device because mine has been perfect and I can't seem to find a vocal crowd with this issue. However, after she bricks hers, she uses mine for an entire week and doesn't have any problems. Google support is extremely helpful and sends out an entire new device. I set it up and restore the apps, within 3 days (Friday -> Sunday) she has the exact same issue again - bricked. Now I'm completely flabbergasted. This device is still spotless, she has barely used it, it hasn't hit a surface hard, hasn't even been sneezed on. I can't even begin to stress how short a time period this is for a device to brick in. I can't help but feel this is a software app and the restore brought over the delinquent app. However, how come I can't reset the device and get back to a clean slate? Can anyone give me a trick?
Please, please help. She wants me to switch back to Verizon because of these device issues. However, even with 2 people, we are saving a ton on Project Fi and I really need this to work. Everything else has been a joy.
So I got it working. But I have a few questions...
Process:
1. Connected it to charger
2. Held power and both volume connectors
3. Held power again
4. Did both of these actions for upwards of 30 seconds at a time hoping for some response from the device.
5. Put it down on the table to write my forum post (still charging).
6. Battery image came on and off the screen randomly
7. Picked it up and held power one last time and it started booting normally.
I'm not sure which sequence of events led to what and I'd really love to know how to reliably reset it in the future. If this is the case then it means it was a software issue all along that persisted over several reboots.
Additionally, I'm frantically pulling software off of her phone - Elmo Calls, Sesame Go, Snapfish, Pinterest, etc. Fearing that one of these apps that I don't run on my device could be causing this. Is there any way to troubleshoot the software itself and see what device could have had access to the screen power and perhaps been powering the screen off as soon as I attempted to power it on (causing a flicker)?
Thanks.
your experience is really unusual you bought 2 phones but the one you are using does not have problems but your wife has, you switched phone then the problem occurs there is a chance a program is causing it as you already received a new one and it still occurring try to let her use the phone with the same software you are using and avoid which you dont use see if there is any progress.
Did you try factory resetting either phone?
Sounds like a software issue if they both had the exact same issue.
does she have some kind of serious strong magnet in her body or purse? haha
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does she have some kind of serious strong magnet in her body or purse? haha
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That's what I was going to say. Seems consistent to what a strong magnet would do to a screen. My next guess was a rogue app.
No magnets, nothing crazy. It started happening again yesterday a few hours after fixing it, I've hard wiped the device and bypassed the restore. Only updated the base applications and it is sitting on a charger - waiting to see if it will happen again.
Get a new wife?
VerucaSalt said:
Get a new wife?
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Or, as OP seems to like to get things in 2, get 2 new wives so that if you brick one, you still have one left without having to wait for RMA.
All jokes aside, is there any specific oddities in how your wife uses phones (Does she work at a metal scrapyard with a big ass magnet? Okay, I promise, last one.) Or you could be extremely unlucky to have bought a defective unit, which was replaced by another defective unit.
To reliably reset the 6P you just hold the power button until the phone vibrates as it starts to boot again. Did the screen flake out as it booted up too?
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Or, as OP seems to like to get things in 2, get 2 new wives so that if you brick one, you still have one left without having to wait for RMA.
All jokes aside, is there any specific oddities in how your wife uses phones (Does she work at a metal scrapyard with a big ass magnet? Okay, I promise, last one.) Or you could be extremely unlucky to have bought a defective unit, which was replaced by another defective unit.
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Although these posts are funny as hell, honestly you would be surprised how many common every day things you come into contact with that can wipe data right off any storage medium. Although its definitely a possibility that you received a crap refurb phone, when you get the next RMA I would take some time to monitor your wife's daily routine with her cell (not her tinder activities), she might just be placing it near/on something that is wiping the phone or corrupting the data. Could also be a really junk app, but google is pretty good about keeping them out of the play store the best they can.
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To reliably reset the 6P you just hold the power button until the phone vibrates as it starts to boot again. Did the screen flake out as it booted up too?
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Yea, it was flaking out on the 8 second hold reboot - I performed it dozens of times without getting my screen back. What works reliably for me is to hold power and both volumes and then hit power again once the diagnostic screen shows up (whether I can actually see it or not). The reboot off of the diagnostic screen seems to bring the phone back to life consistently.
She is using the phone w/ just the base apps from yesterday - I told her to try breaking it without loading new apps - will see how this plays out today.
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Yea, it was flaking out on the 8 second hold reboot - I performed it dozens of times without getting my screen back. What works reliably for me is to hold power and both volumes and then hit power again once the diagnostic screen shows up (whether I can actually see it or not). The reboot off of the diagnostic screen seems to bring the phone back to life consistently.
She is using the phone w/ just the base apps from yesterday - I told her to try breaking it without loading new apps - will see how this plays out today.
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Was that diagnostic screen flaking out too? I suggest to get more aggressive and factory reset through recovery and than ONLY connect her google account to get her contacts. Run like that for about a week. Otherwise your other choice would be to unlock the bootloader and try a custom ROM. I would suggest Cyanogenmod, DLROM (mine), Pure Nexus Project, or even Noob Builds.
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Or, as OP seems to like to get things in 2, get 2 new wives so that if you brick one, you still have one left without having to wait for RMA.
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haaaaaaaa, very good
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does she have some kind of serious strong magnet in her body or purse? haha
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Was actually going to say this too, is there somewhere she goes or sits which has some kind of strong magnetic field? It's odd that it happened to one and then to the next one, unless they're just both from a faulty batch.
Suppose I will add a follow-up. Since I ripped all her software off the device it hasn't crashed once in the same fashion. So I mean, that is the conclusion. I'd love to say I knew how to dive deep enough into Android to pinpoint exactly which app had such incredibly disruptive and adverse affects (far worse than complete OS crashes). But I don't know Android well enough. Google has the original phone. It definitely seems like an app should not have been able to take over the display so completely.
I'm going to move forward and have my wife install more of her apps. Just wanted to shoot an update out in case I don't revisit this. Thanks everyone who posted.
Maybe a combo of rogue (rouge?) apps? I mean some apps do have the ability to draw over screen, so that might have caused whatever problem you had.
And OP, don't leave us
My brothers TMobile S8 screen randomly stopped working. It has no signs of damage anywhere as well. Weirdly, I managed to get the screen to go on one time by pressing some button combos to try to follow a guide to get it into recovery to factory reset it. Upon the phone booting, the battery had 3% and when I went to show him, it was dead. Now after letting it charge, the screen does not work once again and I can't seem to get it to come on in the same way it did before, the bright blue recovery screen.
Is there any software I can use to just attach the phone to it and factory reset it? I mean, I've seen bad phone screens before that have still had images show up on them, even if heavily damaged physically or it no longer responding to touch and showing dim lights. But this one simply doesn't turn on, except the one random time it did, and it was perfectly fine, showed no sign of damage. Any thoughts would be greatly helpful
Is the battery known to be good?
If not replace it. The system will not boot if there's not enough current. It takes a fair amount of power to boot up. A charger can't provide enough to do so...
It boots up fine, I can hear the initial TMobile boot audio as well as the notification sound the phone makes when it gets to the lock screen. I also had it stop charging @80% not too long after buying the phone on release, with some custom ROM I installed. Ofc its a possibility its battery related, since I can't see anything on it, but it was taken care than the average person I am sure
With a custom rom all bets are off. Makes troubleshooting much harder. Possible rootkit.
Firmware and malware aside if it's booting but no display, possible loose ribbon connector, failed display or mobo. That's assuming the battery is good...
Well I did disable/uninstall Superuser from the phone, and I used it for a couple years before giving it to my brother to use. That is a good point about the cable, I will search for images, maybe I can squeeze a few spots to just see what happens
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Well I did disable/uninstall Superuser from the phone, and I used it for a couple years before giving it to my brother to use. That is a good point about the cable, I will search for images, maybe I can squeeze a few spots to just see what happens
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Sometimes just reseting a connector is all it takes. Those are low voltage lines and a perfect contact is needed.
If the battery is more then 2-3 yo it's probably at the end of its usable service life.
Thanks for the input, I will open it up if nothing else works and I will report back if it helps