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galaxy s gets gingerbread before atrix?

http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/16/...pdate-now-rolling-out-across-europe/#comments
kinda sad that a phone thats been out for almost a year is getting gingerbread before the atrix. i think its ATT's fault. they seem to delay OS updates, at least they did for the captivate. both rogers and bell got froyo months before att. maybe ATT wants to make sure all the features it wants disabled are in working like wifi hotspot?

True. Im already regretting buying my Atrix, too late to return it though. But also Motorola was asking for beta testers to sign up to test 2.3.

neotekz said:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/16/...pdate-now-rolling-out-across-europe/#comments
kinda sad that a phone thats been out for almost a year is getting gingerbread before the atrix. i think its ATT's fault. they seem to delay OS updates, at least they did for the captivate. both rogers and bell got froyo months before att. maybe ATT wants to make sure all the features it wants disabled are in working like wifi hotspot?
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Looks like this is for unbranded galaxy s phones though. In the US it takes longer cause the carriers are modding the OS to add all their useless bloatware crappola an it's usually the carrier that pushes the updates not the manufacturer. But hopefully with the update to enable hsupa we get a couple of extra goodies.
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Magic_Bunny said:
True. Im already regretting buying my Atrix, too late to return it though. But also Motorola was asking for beta testers to sign up to test 2.3.
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motorola is getting beta testers for gingerbread? did they put up a sign up like for the update or just announce it?

Motor is asking for beta testers? If so...then GB will be released
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Motorola isnt beta testing 2.3

blaque72 said:
Motorola isnt beta testing 2.3
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+1.
I'll believe it when I see it myself!
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it makes sense that the phone that's been out for a year gets it first....
since google released the 2.3 source code, the company has been doing nothing but preparing an update most likely. motorola however, needed to iron out kinks in their initial 2.2 release before they can consider developing a 2.3 OS, and then allowing carriers to modify it to your liking.
obviously you didn't think about what has to be done to come up with a polished 2.3 update before it can be released as an official OTA update. you really can't fault motorola for this not being out yet. it takes a lot of time, testing, and effort to release a finished product.

Raybond, I agree with everything you said, but its hard to cut Motorola any slack for this when the phone should have come with 2.3 in the first place. On top of that they lock the bootloader so we cant get 2.3 working on our own either....

Silent8Strike said:
Raybond, I agree with everything you said, but its hard to cut Motorola any slack for this when the phone should have come with 2.3 in the first place. On top of that they lock the bootloader so we cant get 2.3 working on our own either....
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well, the problem is that they probably started dev for the atrix's OS before 2.3 was released, so it would have been even more work, and probably would have caused delays in their release of the phone if they had shipped it with 2.3
I know locked bootloader is a massive drag for 3rd party dev, but you really can't fault moto for any decisions they've made with this phone other than that.

drock212 said:
Looks like this is for unbranded galaxy s phones though. In the US it takes longer cause the carriers are modding the OS to add all their useless bloatware crappola an it's usually the carrier that pushes the updates not the manufacturer. But hopefully with the update to enable hsupa we get a couple of extra goodies.
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I guess this is the price we pay for having a subsidized drvice. Unfortunately... although we pay double for it in years of service.
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slimslim said:
I guess this is the price we pay for having a subsidized drvice. Unfortunately... although we pay double for it in years of service.
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not really, you are going to be paying a carrier either way just without a contract. the cost of the subsidy doesnt get added to your bill. either this or buy a phone for full price like in europe.
i read that google is going to be releasing ice cream sandwich sometime this summer. maybe motorola is going to skip gingerbread? i wouldnt mind waiting until the end of the year if it means we get 2.4.

neotekz said:
not really, you are going to be paying a carrier either way just without a contract. the cost of the subsidy doesnt get added to your bill. either this or buy a phone for full price like in europe.
i read that google is going to be releasing ice cream sandwich sometime this summer. maybe motorola is going to skip gingerbread? i wouldnt mind waiting until the end of the year if it means we get 2.4.
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You would have to skip over "Gingerbread" AND "Honeycomb" to get to ICS.
That's not gonna happen...

bigb252 said:
+1.
I'll believe it when I see it myself!
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Yes moto does.
I read it on moto official forum.
And you need to fill a form or something before a date...
I would if my phone wasn't unlocked..
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EDIT:
My fault!!!! Sorry guys!!!
I didn't read the whole post from moto forum. At the end of that post there is an edit, that says it was about the 1.5.7 update we already got! My mistake, my fault, sorry
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ccrows said:
You would have to skip over "Gingerbread" AND "Honeycomb" to get to ICS.
That's not gonna happen...
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actually you're not skipping honeycomb....
honeycomb is a totally different series in Android OS, tablet-specific series to be precise (3.0)
So, gingerbread is 2.3, and ICS is 2.4. Also, rumour has it that ICS will have full dual-core support, so it would make logical sense for Moto to not waste any time with 2.3 and go straight for dev in 2.4

ccrows said:
You would have to skip over "Gingerbread" AND "Honeycomb" to get to ICS.
That's not gonna happen...
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ice creme sandwich is a blend features of both gingerbread and honeycomb made specifically for phones. you will not be seeing honeycomb on an android phone backed by google. that one reason google is not releasing honeycomb source yet, they dont want to have honeycomb phones out there.
raybond25 said:
So, gingerbread is 2.3, and ICS is 2.4. Also, rumour has it that ICS will have full dual-core support, so it would make logical sense for Moto to not waste any time with 2.3 and go straight for dev in 2.4
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i thought gingerbread is suppost to be optimized for dual cores too.

Paschalis said:
Yes moto does.
I read it on moto official forum.
And you need to fill a form or something before a date...
I would if my phone wasn't unlocked..
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link please?

neotekz said:
ice creme sandwich is a blend features of both gingerbread and honeycomb made specifically for phones. you will not be seeing honeycomb on an android phone backed by google. that one reason google is not releasing honeycomb source yet, they dont want to have honeycomb phones out there.
i thought gingerbread is suppost to be optimized for dual cores too.
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i believe that it has some modicum of support for dual core, but is not completely optimized for it as 2.4 will be.
that's just my understanding, if someone could provide a link to prove me wrong then i'd freely accept it.

Gingerbread as currently released for SGS has some glitches but guess what Samsung just released the source code! So we should be seeing fixes and tricked out kernels/ROMS/system apps very soon.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=12992329&posted=1#post12992329

bigb252 said:
+1.
I'll believe it when I see it myself!
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I saw the signup sheet too. It never hurts to waste a little time each day looking through these forums. I swear I saw a link for it. I looked at it and saw some sign up thingy on Motorola's website.

ICS: Can it run?

What do you guys think? can it run on the G2/DZ?
i think it might be able to. looking at the code, it might be able to run some things. plus, the galaxy nexus has only a 5mp camera. the G2 has a 5mp camera as well, so it could be capable of some ICS camera features, maybe all of it. i am keeping my fingers cross that ICS can work on this phone!

If it can run on both Nexus S and Nexus One, i don't see why not on G2?

Hawon said:
If it can run on both Nexus S and Nexus One, i don't see why not on G2?
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Where did you get this info?

there was a basic honeycomb port a while back, and thats before we had a real source for honeycomb. Now that we'll have the ICS source, we should be able to run it. It'll just take time to get developers (and google) to have a working release.

c00ller said:
Where did you get this info?
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Its already been shown running on the Nexus S.
If it can run on the Nexus S, it will definitely run on here. I'm ready for it.

honestly from looking at it id be willing to run just stock rooted ICS, without any sort of special ROM on top, it looks fantastic and if it happens ill at least make it one of my boots in boot manager, looks to be top notch and im so excited for devs to get it working on the G2! they have all of my support!

of course it can run on our visions and it will...........soon!!!!

noneabove said:
honestly from looking at it id be willing to run just stock rooted ICS, without any sort of special ROM on top, it looks fantastic and if it happens ill at least make it one of my boots in boot manager, looks to be top notch and im so excited for devs to get it working on the G2! they have all of my support!
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Stock would just be fine with me! My guess is anything above stock, like a sense version of ICS, it will take up too much memory and perhaps slow the phone down.
I hope whoever (cyanogen? ) can get it running. That would be a great thing! I want my G2 to last one more year with the latest software. After that, the next nexus is what I will be aiming for
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c00ller said:
Where did you get this info?
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There were browser comparisons during the presentation that showed Nexus S with 2.3 and 4.0, compared to Galaxy Nexus on 4.0

who is waiting for a sdk port

where would we go to follow the progress on it being ported for DZ???

noneabove said:
where would we go to follow the progress on it being ported for DZ???
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Guess you'll see if any threads pop up in the coming weeks.

martonikaj said:
Its already been shown running on the Nexus S.
If it can run on the Nexus S, it will definitely run on here. I'm ready for it.
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its confirmed that nexus s is going to get it. also, according to Cohen and Engadget who asked him, any 2.3 device can run it (theoretically).
http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/19/google-confirms-nexus-s-will-get-ice-cream-sandwich-for-real/
if that is true, then for sure the G2/DZ will have it working!! dont want to get my hopes up though

martonikaj said:
Its already been shown running on the Nexus S.
If it can run on the Nexus S, it will definitely run on here. I'm ready for it.
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C.Flat said:
There were browser comparisons during the presentation that showed Nexus S with 2.3 and 4.0, compared to Galaxy Nexus on 4.0
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OK, I knew about the Nexus S, but Hawon also said it can run on the Nexus One. I was wondering where he heard that.

Unfortunately, we're all going to have to wait until sometime after the source code is released and the CM team can get it working. As far as an official update, I don't think so unless HTC itself posts an update.
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heybobitsme said:
Unfortunately, we're all going to have to wait until sometime after the source code is released and the CM team can get it working. As far as an official update, I don't think so unless HTC itself posts an update.
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source code is released!!
and damn who needs sense anymore LOL.... i only used sense cos of the auto contacts linking...but now that ICS has it already....
btw...what is bootmanager that someone mentioned above?

deaththeorist said:
source code is released!!
and damn who needs sense anymore LOL.... i only used sense cos of the auto contacts linking...but now that ICS has it already....
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I think you may be confusing the source code with the SDK. The SDK for ICS is out now, but the source code is not.
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steviewevie said:
I think you may be confusing the source code with the SDK. The SDK for ICS is out now, but the source code is not.
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my bad
*hides head in hole

ohcanada said:
who is waiting for a sdk port
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Well, SDK ports always blow but it will be fun to tinker with. That's the point of it though

sino8r said:
Well, SDK ports always blow but it will be fun to tinker with. That's the point of it though
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Oh crud...I thought the sdk was what is used to the build the rom. Looks like, based on what everyone said, it will take awhile before we see a ics rom out
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[RUMOR] Official Motorola ICS for Atrix 4G

I have spoke with some people from motorola and asked some questions related to general business but also for upgrading Atrix with ICS.
I'm pasting here some answers without mentioning names, I think that this may show that motorola is doing more than they are ready to publicly say in this moment. To be on safe side You can think about this as rumor.
On Software upgrades, I wasn't aware of an announcement regarding ICS and ATRIX. Although Motorola tends to announce what it will do, not what it won't do, it doesn't mean it won't happen. You may be right, but I don't know the current status... The challenge we have with ATRIX however is Webtop, the full linux OS which sits within Froyo/Gingerbread... I imagine this has delayed any comment. The ideal scenario would be to upgrade all phones to the latest software, and I see that almost all high-end (non web top) phones have had ICS upgrade confirmed.
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Official ics would probably suck too. Motorola would probably put blur on top of it.
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stumpyz9 said:
Official ics would probably suck too. Motorola would probably put blur on top of it.
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Agreed, but..... If they actually release a version of ICS for the atrix, it can be DEblurred and retain the webtop. So if one carrier actually releases ICS for the atrix we would be set..

nate_benji said:
Agreed, but..... If they actually release a version of ICS for the atrix, it can be DEblurred and retain the webtop. So if one carrier actually releases ICS for the atrix we would be set..
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What we need are drivers, webtop and kernels, and they will give us these if this is true

thats a lie dude ;D
Motorola's problem in releasing ICS is not WebTop's fault, is nvidia's! they will not release ICS drivers and sources, not until motorola pays them some good money.
So, our hope for now is that motorola pays for ics on xoom and then make a "hacked driver" of it to the phones with tegra2....
Please close or more the thread to general.
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Us GB members JUST got the 2.3 update...
If we think optimisticly, then MAYBE 2014 could be a safe bet.
But ONLY if... - If Motorola are faster than usual

Son of a *****. I got really excited.
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somebody should move this thread away from this section and/or append "-RUMOR" to its name . I was having an heart attack.

Its been stated by Nivida that they will be releasing the ics drivers and binarys for there terga 2 and 3 chip sets in the new year. That thread was in the general section awhile ago. So we will get ics through other channels.

drvon said:
Its been stated by Nivida that they will be releasing the ics drivers and binarys for there terga 2 and 3 chip sets in the new year. That thread was in the general section awhile ago. So we will get ics through other channels.
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are we talking about 2011 or 2012 ?
OP,
wrong place dude, but who depends on Moto for ICS when you have some awesome devs in here ..

damn, i almost having a heart attack after reading this thread's title
da fuq

munchy_cool said:
are we talking about 2011 or 2012 ?
OP,
wrong place dude, but who depends on Moto for ICS when you have some awesome devs in here ..
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They had sad early 2012
Here's the post...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1371486

I'm not sure that drivers are anymore issue since we saw from google ICS
for xoom which is same platform as atrix.
guidoido004 said:
thats a lie dude ;D
Motorola's problem in releasing ICS is not WebTop's fault, is nvidia's! they will not release ICS drivers and sources, not until motorola pays them some good money.
So, our hope for now is that motorola pays for ics on xoom and then make a "hacked driver" of it to the phones with tegra2....
Please close or more the thread to general.
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What a tease!
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Sorry for tease it was not my intention, I just wanted to share some inside knowledge which I gain trough unofficial channels, anyway I will try to make it up for that

zexbig said:
Sorry for tease it was not my intention, I just wanted to share some inside knowledge which I gain trough unofficial channels, anyway I will try to make it up for that
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Perfectly acceptable titles:
- Unofficial information from Motorla regarding ICS for the Atrix
- I contacted Motorola regarding ICS for the Atrix, here's the answer
- If you were wondering about Motorola's stand on ICS for the Atrix, here it is
- So I decided to contact Motorola about ICS for the Atrix
Do you understand how the title is misleading enough for it to pass as obvious trolling? Don't apologize, just change the god damned title so people won't read it and get excited over some unofficial comments that do not really say ANYTHING at all about current development for the Atrix.
Thank you and have a good one.

hoodlikegaza said:
This does not belong in dev you IDIOT.
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I gave you a thanks for this post for being an outstanding contribution to humanity. If there were only more like you in the world, what a wonderful place it would be.

dicksteele said:
I gave you a thanks for this post for being an outstanding contribution to humanity. If there were only more like you in the world, what a wonderful place it would be.
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Why don't you give me thanks you idiot!?
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Since motorola needs to upgrade RAZR to ICS (they publicly committed that they will do it) it means that webtop will be rewrite for ICS so it's possible that they will
user webtop for RAZR in ICS for atrix.

Only after Google's control.

Samsung is giving value pack for Galaxy Only ICS Features

Dears,
Samsung is giving Value Pack for Galaxy S, S plus next month based on android 2.3.6 with ICS features just heard the news but they will not give 4.0.3

Any Trust able News Source you come with or else this thread is a waste of time

bv_abhi said:
Any Trust able News Source you come with or else this thread is a waste of time
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Try Samsungs FB page. Should be there.
Don't drink and tapatalk.

bv_abhi said:
Any Trust able News Source you come with or else this thread is a waste of time
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Found this.

bv_abhi said:
Any Trust able News Source you come with or else this thread is a waste of time
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Also it is showing in You mobile and it is trustworthy website about samsung
http://www.youmobile.org/blogs/entr...-Pack-Update-Next-Month-Screenshots-Changelog

Let me guess...
ahsanjavaid said:
Dears,
Samsung is giving Value Pack for Galaxy S, S plus next month based on android 2.3.6 with ICS features just heard the news but they will not give 4.0.3
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and the firmware version "will" be I9000XXJVU
That firmware is already available in the xda-developers forum for some time now
Now that we tested it, it's going to be released to the general public.

last update
Will this be the last update for S

will it be the last update?
Sure?
last for sgs and sgs+?
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Yes.
Galaxy S, in the eyes on Samsung, has fulfilled his purpose.
But in XDA eyes, it still has a lot to offer!
If you are too afraid to flash an ICS rom on it, you should probably do yourself a favor and throw it to the trash can and buy an iPhone, that gives you plenty of features to afraid (and rich) people.

nCoder said:
and the firmware version "will" be I9000XXJVU
That firmware is already available in the xda-developers forum for some time now
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so you are saying this will be the final release xxjvu

hate u samsung.
Look at htc, Desire s n desire HD can update to ICS.

Obviously this value pack is going to be none other than the JVU that we've already seen here for ages. Nothing new and nothing special.

Who needs Samsung when you have the genius of xda devs!
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so you are saying this will be the final release xxjvu
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The value pack is available for the SGS, and is a really cool firmware - possibly the best firmware until now from Samsung.
This is for the international version. Possibly a similar package for other regions and operators.
Since that ROM was leaked, no other leak for the i9000 for long time. I don't expect any other ROM for the SGS from Samsung.
There are some developers here working on the ICS for the SGS. At this point, the only think we're asking from Samsung is to release the source to support the continued development.

it is leaked for SGS only i think not SGS + as i m SGS+ user i didn't find that so it is new for me.there are also less roms for SGS+ and till now there is no ICS rom (unofficial) for SGS+ so for me its bad experience with samsung

bv_abhi said:
so you are saying this will be the final release xxjvu
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What are you guys talkin' about?
JVU Released at the end of last December! .)
We all don't know what is the firmware code... But also samsung said (when 13 march) "galaxy s,s+,tab7",sl will get value pack firmware end of march..."

r11pp3r said:
Who needs Samsung when you have the genius of xda devs!
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+ 1
You have to admit that Samsung's reasons are at some point legitimate... Come on, they are already working on galaxy s3 right now.... Now it's time to have the real fun with xda folks!

trislr said:
hate u samsung.
Look at htc, Desire s n desire HD can update to ICS.
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Its because they have 768mb RAM...

alikee said:
Its because they have 768mb RAM...
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How 'bout SE phones? Arc, Neo and Mini line all have 512 mb of RAM yet are getting ICS with Sony skin and bloatware on top.
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btw this is Samsung nature that they forget old phones this my 2nd Samsung phone and i'll not buy anymore Samsung phone.i already bought Iphone 4S because after 3 -4 years they still value your device and value you as a customer.

Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 Port?

Since Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 rooted, hope someone can port the rom to Galaxy Tab 10.1

himanthaj said:
Since Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 rooted, hope someone can port the rom to Galaxy Tab 10.1
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I will port is once I have the system/kernel.
Im also porting Sense 4.0 right now.

himanthaj said:
Since Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 rooted, hope someone can port the rom to Galaxy Tab 10.1
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It would probably take a lot of time and effort as the tab 2 is based on an entirely different SOC. By the time we can get something working there will probably be an official update out for us.
Good luck for anyone who wants to give the a try though!
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Coentje44 said:
I will port is once I have the system/kernel.
Im also porting Sense 4.0 right now.
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Will love to have sense 4 on gtab, that will be awesome

degreatone said:
Will love to have sense 4 on gtab, that will be awesome
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I think they were referring to the port of sense 4 for the nexus s but it would be pretty cool for us! I shame the hox resolution is just below our tabs!
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XDA is no longer worth my time.

If you could have waited for the firmware to come out. Our tab and tab 2 would make no difference except the name has 2 I it and the chipset. That's all. Why port when you can wait for a little little longer

TimOster said:
If you really want to do something, find a way to write a camera driver for ICS!
I don't write FW, hell I can barely write PC code...but couldn't the camera driver for an older version be used as a starting point? Voice of ignorance asking here.
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Samsung and Google didn't release HC source, so there is no way currently to use the old camera driver of the older version.
It should be coming soon though, if ICS for Tab is actually rolling out next month.

BS_sage said:
Samsung and Google didn't release HC source, so there is no way currently to use the old camera driver of the older version.
It should be coming soon though, if ICS for Tab is actually rolling out next month.
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How is this possible? I thought android is licensed under the GPL so it is mandatory to provide the sourcecode either public or upon request.

Localhorst86 said:
How is this possible? I thought android is licensed under the GPL so it is mandatory to provide the sourcecode either public or upon request.
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Can't remember exactly why but it never got released for any HC tablet.
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degreatone said:
Will love to have sense 4 on gtab, that will be awesome
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Lol, you guys think the Gtab is a little laggy now? I quiver at the thought of watching Sense make the Gtab it's *****. lol

cant wait for this