After using my HD2 for close to 1.5 years, I finally manage to get root on the Froyo NAND ROM I have, and installed Titanium Backup. What took me so long? Partly due to the fact I don't have much time to try out different ROMs and also I need something reliable, which made me stuck to the same early NAND release for so long, but the lack of internal space is really getting on my nerves recently.
Just a backtrack on what ROM I used. I followed instructions on the [GUIDE] Flashing Your First HD2 NAND Android Rom [For Newbs] thread, installed LEO "Stock Desire" NAND Android ROM by Cotulla and never bothered with anything else, even with the fact it doesn't have root access.
Upon installing Titanium Backup, I discovered a section where they listed "System ROM: 274MB (18.6MB free)" and "Internal: 144MB (17.2MB free)", well, that explains why I kept running out of space, the first boot up, I remembered I only have like 30MB out of the 144MB Internal space to use for any other external apps I installed! But another question beckons, 274MB + 144MB is only about 418MB, I thought we have 576MB to begin with on the HD2? What happened to the rest of the storage? I've checked my radio and I'm running on 2.15.50.14 which is supposed to have unlocked the extra memory.
And I'm also thinking of installing a new ROM after all these years, probably sticking with a Sense based one, which I've seen a pretty good Rom SENSATION XL V 3.0 or DESIRE HD OFFICIAL RUU_Ace_Gingerbread_S_V 3.0 made by haldric, but the partition of 5/220/5 or 5/180/5 is a little worrying as that would mean less internal space left for apps I install, but how does one calculate and estimate the amount of internal memory left after a clean install? If not, I would be considering tytung's NexusHD2-Gingerbread V3.2a which has a small system partition of 135MB, which probably meant I have more internal space left for apps instead, but it doesn't have SENSE, which I prefer to have even though it makes the phone slower.
Also, I guess I prefer to stick with the MAGLDR way of flashing thru DAF.exe as I think it's probably the most straight forward and easiest way compared to the other methods which seemed kinda complicated.
My main question is actually the "System ROM" and "Internal" size showed by Titanium backup, is that normal that it doesn't add up to the RAM/ROM size?
Hope to get some response soon. Thanks in advance!
ever thought of using ext???
Thealshear, I would, but it seems the procedure to set it up seemed pretty complicated, and, well, I've been thinking of trying out a new ROM as well.
I guess I got confused anyway, it's 512MB of ROM, so after deducting 274MB out of System ROM and 144MB out of Internal memory, where did the rest of the 94MB went? Cache?
First of all, RAM is a completely different thing from ROM.
ROM, stands for Read-only memory , is where your OS resides. Whereas RAM, stands for Random Access Memory (you should already know this), is where your running apps are kept ... RUNNING !
The HD2 only has a RAM of 576 MB (after radio install).
But as for the ROM:
The T-mobile packs a 1GB ROM, while the regular (Euro) HD2 only packs 512MB (not 576MB).
And finally, don't trust TB . Mine says (167 System ROM & 1GB internal when I actually own a European HD2 ) and that is because the A2SD script.
When you want to flash a recovery, your maximum is 400MB system (considering 10MB cache, 2MB boot, 5MB recovery & 1MB misc) Which totals to about 418MB.
I don't know why the rest is not used, but since it is happening on both DAF flashing AND CWM, then I assume it's a thing we cannot change.
Well, yeah, I just found out I got mistaken, it's the ROM size that I need to take note about, one of the things that baffled me coming from iOS is that, in iOS, whatever listed storage size, I could use it all up for apps instead of like in Android's case, it's based on the ROM size.
Anyway, other than checking the flash.cfg configuration, there's no where else to roughly estimate how much internal memory is left? Moving apps to SD doesn't seem to be the full blown solution as I think some parts will still be left on the ROM, or I had been misinformed?
Is it possible to setup without Clockwork Mod?
Settings > Storage
Always shows you the actual amount of MBs left for you to install apps. (If you're not using an A2SD script)
Why are you still on that rusty ROM ?
There are now much better ROMs with better functionality. Furthermore, the installation procedure is rather simple.
I recommend doing the following:
1- Sync your Contacts & Calendar Events to Google. (Auto by default)
2- Backup your SMS with any app from the Market. (Optional)
3- Backup your apps using TB backup (requires root ofc )
After that, wipe off your device using Task29. Then choose either MAGLDR or cLK (see what suits you best). Then install CWM (cWM comes pre-installed with cLK 1.5) .. then customize the partition sizes. Finally, flash your favourite ROM.
Well, as mentioned, I'm still on this rusty ROM due to convenience and I didn't had much time to tweak around. Back then, I got the HD2 as it was the only possible phone that has 4.3" on Android
Recently, the internal memory issue is getting on my nerves as I need a couple of apps that's impossible to install without having more internal memory! Which was why I finally decided it's time to read a little bit more to get a much better ROM instead without resorting to changing phones.
So, basically, whatever I do, I would still need to run Task29? I just found out about the HD2 NAND Toolkit, so in accordance to the procedure you mentioned, I would still need to run Task29, install MAGLDR, use HD2 NAND Toolkit and then install whatever ROM I choose to use? Is CWM necessary? Or it just helps to ease up the work later on?
Thanks again!
GRexer83 said:
Well, as mentioned, I'm still on this rusty ROM due to convenience and I didn't had much time to tweak around. Back then, I got the HD2 as it was the only possible phone that has 4.3" on Android
Recently, the internal memory issue is getting on my nerves as I need a couple of apps that's impossible to install without having more internal memory! Which was why I finally decided it's time to read a little bit more to get a much better ROM instead without resorting to changing phones.
So, basically, whatever I do, I would still need to run Task29? I just found out about the HD2 NAND Toolkit, so in accordance to the procedure you mentioned, I would still need to run Task29, install MAGLDR, use HD2 NAND Toolkit and then install whatever ROM I choose to use? Is CWM necessary? Or it just helps to ease up the work later on?
Thanks again!
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Task29 is unnecessary I feel. Just follow this guide and you should be fine. Do a wipe in MAGLDR, flash CWM and carry on from there.
In terms of the internal memory apps, which ones are these? I made sure to move all of my games to the SD card, and any app which has a significant amount of data. All the apps on my internal storage right now are Widgets and Launchers, works fine for me.
^What he said.
And yes, CWM is fundamental. On the other hand, task29 is not. But I like to do it when switching from MAGLDR to cLK or vice versa.
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hello, i hope my thread didnt post somewhere else.
so, i am using hs2 and i installed android 2.2 yesterday and i installed 8 apps on it. everything is working perfect until i installed google eath. i run it and it says that i dont have enough space and it close.. i also remove many apps and i only have 50mb internal memory only. how do i clean android because i wanna install more apps soon!
also how many mb internal memory hd2 has?
is android installed on internal memory of my hd2 thats why its running low now??
thanks i hope to get what am looking for
USA T-Mobile HD2 - 1024MB ROM
Everywhere else - 512MB ROM
Which NAND build are you using? Perhaps it supports A2SD, A2SD+, data2ext, data2sd, if it does one of those, partitioning your MicroSD card and formatting the partition in ext2/ext3/ext4 will give you more space to install applications.
LiFE1688 said:
USA T-Mobile HD2 - 1024MB ROM
Everywhere else - 512MB ROM
Which NAND build are you using? Perhaps it supports A2SD, A2SD+, data2ext, data2sd, if it does one of those, partitioning your MicroSD card and formatting the partition in ext2/ext3/ext4 will give you more space to install applications.
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wait wait wait i bought hd2 at 14/1 and i put android at 13/1 so am sooo noob on these what A2SD, A2SD+, data2ext, data2sd are?
how do i partition my sd? how do i format to ext...
i got 512rom btw uk one
thanks
This is the downside of using NAND rom, the internal memory is very low. My phone is showing about 120 MB available and still I permanent have the icon telling me low disk space.
So there is a solution and that is to partition the sd card? Are there any instructions for this available so it becames part of the OS?. I have searched but could not seem to find the proper thread.
BTW I am using the "desire stock rom":
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=893620
Have a look at this one. Especially the instructions.
Or search the NAND Forum Titles for App2SD, Data2EXT, ext4, data.img or something like that.
lenarass said:
wait wait wait i bought hd2 at 14/1 and i put android at 13/1 so am sooo noob on these what A2SD, A2SD+, data2ext, data2sd are?
how do i partition my sd? how do i format to ext...
i got 512rom btw uk one
thanks
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"-_- sweat -_-"
I am not going to explain what it is, but instead, I am gonna tell you what to look at. When choosing a ROM.
Example1:
[15 JAN] -=MDJ's CyanogenMod 7 v. 2.4 [A2SD+][GRH78][RMNET][Kernel: MDJ S10.4 OC]
See the wonderful [A2SD+] that means it uses A2SD+
Example2:
[16 JAN][DAF][ZIP] RAFDROID HD 2.2 [DATA2EXT][Kern:MDJ 10.3][RMNET][UPDATED!]
This uses data2ext
Example3:
[30 DEC][DFT]LEO "Stock Desire" NAND Android ROM
This doesn't use anything, so you are screwed... you run out of space, that's it, SCREWED.
I highly recommend that you read this, and understand what it says.
[10 JAN][RECOVERY] ClockworkMod Recovery for HD2 - v1.2
Because Clockwork makes things really easy for noobs, if you want to call yourself that. It is also used in every Android Devices that I know of, including the Real HTC DesireHD, Samsung Galaxy S, Samsung Nexus S, HTC Desire, and many more. HD2 users prefer people to do everything for them and package everything neatly, then complain about having to wipe everything away each update.
** [GUIDE] How to format SD-Card to EXT 3 **
bakskj, so yah, you have 120MB left. So unless you know how to put A2SD, A2SD+ or data2sd or data2ext into the ROM you are using now, pretty much, use that 120MB sparingly, that's all you will have.
LiFE1688 said:
"-_- sweat -_-"
I am not going to explain what it is, but instead, I am gonna tell you what to look at. When choosing a ROM.
Example1:
[15 JAN] -=MDJ's CyanogenMod 7 v. 2.4 [A2SD+][GRH78][RMNET][Kernel: MDJ S10.4 OC]
See the wonderful [A2SD+] that means it uses A2SD+
Example2:
[16 JAN][DAF][ZIP] RAFDROID HD 2.2 [DATA2EXT][Kern:MDJ 10.3][RMNET][UPDATED!]
This uses data2ext
Example3:
[30 DEC][DFT]LEO "Stock Desire" NAND Android ROM
This doesn't use anything, so you are screwed... you run out of space, that's it, SCREWED.
I highly recommend that you read this, and understand what it says.
[10 JAN][RECOVERY] ClockworkMod Recovery for HD2 - v1.2
Because Clockwork makes things really easy for noobs, if you want to call yourself that. It is also used in every Android Devices that I know of, including the Real HTC DesireHD, Samsung Galaxy S, Samsung Nexus S, HTC Desire, and many more. HD2 users prefer people to do everything for them and package everything neatly, then complain about having to wipe everything away each update.
** [GUIDE] How to format SD-Card to EXT 3 **
bakskj, so yah, you have 120MB left. So unless you know how to put A2SD, A2SD+ or data2sd or data2ext into the ROM you are using now, pretty much, use that 120MB sparingly, that's all you will have.
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amazing post . bit i use LEO "Stock Desire" NAND Android ROM so am SCREWED . do i have to install NEW ROM ? and start downloading apss from the bigging? if yes what rom is the best ?xda-developers - Reply to Topic or RAFDROID HD 2.2 ?
whats the difference between these 3 roms? more available internal space?
thankss
Urm, it's hard to say what is the best. I guess look at the screen shot and choose the one that looks the most pleasing?
But you know what, now that you are starting again,
[10 JAN][RECOVERY] ClockworkMod Recovery for HD2 - v1.2
READ THAT... USE THAT...
Then choose a ROM that says CLOCKWORK
-=DOWNLOAD v. 2.4 A2SD+ NAND Clockwork Mod=-
Like that. This way, if you have a small little fix, you don't have to reflash the whole rom, some nice guy/girl might already post up the fix in a nice zip file that you can use clockwork to install.
LiFE1688 said:
Urm, it's hard to say what is the best. I guess look at the screen shot and choose the one that looks the most pleasing?
But you know what, now that you are starting again,
[10 JAN][RECOVERY] ClockworkMod Recovery for HD2 - v1.2
READ THAT... USE THAT...
Then choose a ROM that says CLOCKWORK
-=DOWNLOAD v. 2.4 A2SD+ NAND Clockwork Mod=-
Like that. This way, if you have a small little fix, you don't have to reflash the whole rom, some nice guy/girl might already post up the fix in a nice zip file that you can use clockwork to install.
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thx but am too confuzed. i will wait for a better android that does everything without flashing again and again
lenarass said:
thx but am too confuzed. i will wait for a better android that does everything without flashing again and again
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All of them do everything. Have you at least tried one?
hello00 said:
All of them do everything. Have you at least tried one?
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flashed on nand the original desire android on my hd2. its 2.2ver and i cant save app on sd card. the other 2 ver are 2.3 android right? the last one?
PLEASE NOTE:
There are down sides to using app2sd and data on sd.... Namely you cannot mount the SD Card via usb.
The single best option for having a stable, low maintenance build is projections Stock desire, which has some squashing to reduce the space. HD builds are all flawed for 512mb users because of the size. You either have no space, or you cannot mount your sd card.
Based on that I would always go for a stock desire/evo based build, which give full functionality, but with ~180mb free space. Everybody is so quick to ask for data on sd.... but the corruption factor that is still there, combined with the inability to mount the drive, makes it a no go for many people who are starting out, and will be back on here in a few days asking why they are getting force closes, or why they cannot access SD card via usb.
Good comments
MattOG said:
PLEASE NOTE:
There are down sides to using app2sd and data on sd.... Namely you cannot mount the SD Card via usb.
The single best option for having a stable, low maintenance build is projections Stock desire, which has some squashing to reduce the space. HD builds are all flawed for 512mb users because of the size. You either have no space, or you cannot mount your sd card.
Based on that I would always go for a stock desire/evo based build, which give full functionality, but with ~180mb free space. Everybody is so quick to ask for data on sd.... but the corruption factor that is still there, combined with the inability to mount the drive, makes it a no go for many people who are starting out, and will be back on here in a few days asking why they are getting force closes, or why they cannot access SD card via usb.
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First off thanks for the informative replies. I think I'm gonna go for a partitioned one because more space is essential for me.
What i do want to know is. Is there a fix for those eventual crashes and what not? And if they are really to annoying. Because nothing beats stability.
Hi,
last time i came in here unhappy with my stock HD2 on tmobUK android was just emerging on SD, now i came in here the other day WP7 is available as NAND and so is android....things seem to be a little confusing now, quite a few of these great ROMS are from people whos first language is not english so its quite hard to sometimes understand what they are explaining so i would be greatful if someone could answer somes questions, i have tried to read threads as best i can but some of them, well most actually are well into the hundreds within hours.
1) A lot of chefs describe NAND and SD, i know the difference between the two, but then they get mixed with magldr and NAND with ext4 etc etc..basically i want to flash the phones software to my NAND, i am assuming this is the best way to have it running at its optimum ?..so if i do this why would i need ext4 partions on the SD as well ? whats the benefit of it ?
2) i have also noticed that you can scan a barcode and have a link download a new rom to your phone and flash it, could i do this with ANY rom straight over the top of another without question ? and everything will be as it should be.
3) Does each ROM need to be set up in a different way?, this partly answers the previous question.
4) i flashed WP7 to my NAND (i think)..i was not happy with it and i had magldr installed, i just formatted my SD card to fat32 popped it back in and followed instructions to put [Feb 01][DL DesireZ v3.4][DL Data2SD/Ext4 v2.6][Nand/SD/MAGLAR] on to it.... it took me into magldr and told me to do a few things...did this flash to my NAND ? and did it do what was needed to the SD card regarding format or was it up to me to make certain changes to the SD card myself ?..the phone works and i can make calls, but all the apps that are stated to be in the ROM are not there, i cant find any GPS stuff and when i go to market place itsays its downloading an app but i can never see it.
As you can see i really am quite discombobulated with all this...i would love a easy reading guide that explains everything from A-B and all the terminolgy.
Thanks.
1. Many of these Android roms would swamp the entire memory of the EU HD2, so a workaround is to have partitions on the sd cards to store apps and data, leaving the system to run on NAND. When you update your rom, you just flash the system files and all app and data remains on the sd card.
2. The QR code just allows you to download the rom to your phone. You would still need to flash it AFAIK. (Heven't tried one of those yet). There are basically 2 types of NAND Android roms. One type use the more conventional flash type where you run an exe (daf.exe) from the usb flasher option on magldr. The 2nd (more recent type) packs the roms as zips which you can download and copy to your sd card and then using Clockwork mod, you can flash the rom directly from your sd card. This also allows you to take full backups, try another rom and if you don't like it you merely restore the rom.
3.Each rom and each dev has their own way of building these roms, so you will need to read carefully regarding what to do wrt sd card partitions etc.
4. Flashing WP7 and the Android rom via magldr would have installed the rom to NAND. You would need to partition your sd card yourself prior to flashing the rom. There are tutorials on how to partition the sd card to give you more help.
loady said:
Hi,
last time i came in here unhappy with my stock HD2 on tmobUK android was just emerging on SD, now i came in here the other day WP7 is available as NAND and so is android....things seem to be a little confusing now, quite a few of these great ROMS are from people whos first language is not english so its quite hard to sometimes understand what they are explaining so i would be greatful if someone could answer somes questions, i have tried to read threads as best i can but some of them, well most actually are well into the hundreds within hours.
1) A lot of chefs describe NAND and SD, i know the difference between the two, but then they get mixed with magldr and NAND with ext4 etc etc..basically i want to flash the phones software to my NAND, i am assuming this is the best way to have it running at its optimum ?..so if i do this why would i need ext4 partions on the SD as well ? whats the benefit of it ?
2) i have also noticed that you can scan a barcode and have a link download a new rom to your phone and flash it, could i do this with ANY rom straight over the top of another without question ? and everything will be as it should be.
3) Does each ROM need to be set up in a different way?, this partly answers the previous question.
4) i flashed WP7 to my NAND (i think)..i was not happy with it and i had magldr installed, i just formatted my SD card to fat32 popped it back in and followed instructions to put [Feb 01][DL DesireZ v3.4][DL Data2SD/Ext4 v2.6][Nand/SD/MAGLAR] on to it.... it took me into magldr and told me to do a few things...did this flash to my NAND ? and did it do what was needed to the SD card regarding format or was it up to me to make certain changes to the SD card myself ?..the phone works and i can make calls, but all the apps that are stated to be in the ROM are not there, i cant find any GPS stuff and when i go to market place itsays its downloading an app but i can never see it.
As you can see i really am quite discombobulated with all this...i would love a easy reading guide that explains everything from A-B and all the terminolgy.
Thanks.
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1) MAGLDR is nothing but kind of a bootloader. You can select how you want to start your ROM. AD SD or NAND or also now you can back up ROMS with MAGLDR... SD ROMS use haret.exe method. NAND uses DFT.exe method. there is another way called Clockwork MOD which uses .zip method.
Differences:-
SD Method: you have winmo 6.5 on NAND and android on SD card.
NAND Method: you install android on NAND itself.
Clockwork MOD: you install android on NAND but the benefits include you can backup your whole ROM in the actual state and flash it back later... So you can try different ROMs without worrying about installing apps and adjusting settings on the ones you like.
ext4 is a type of partition used by system. you can use the ROM which supports APP2SD and put your apps on ext4 partition.
2) As for the barcode ones. I am not sure how that works, but deffinately not as easy as you are thinking...
3) All the NAND roms use DAF.exe method so you do not need to worry about setting up the ROMs or anything. It does it for you. But some NAND roms have capabilities for APP2SD, in that case you might have to format your SD card in some particular way (explained in the threads always) to get ext2/3/4 partition to use app2sd.
4) you can flash WP7 only on NAND as there is no other way to do it for now. As for the new build you used, it has more than 1 versions. SD and NAND. If you followed the instructions for NAND and used DAF.exe to install it, then the ROM is already set up for you on NAND. Now the build you used had data2sd option and you can format your SD card as the author has said to use app2sd functionality.
One more thing, mostly TMO US users do not need app2sd as they have enough space on their phone. So if you are TMO US user, you can opt your self out from that headache.
Hope this helps. Just for the clarification, I am also a newb... I tried my level best to answer your questions...
QR codes are just text, in this case a URL. Instead of making you type the URL on your phone, you can just scan it with a special app, and get taken to the URL. Nothing more.
Thanks guys...the fog is clearing a little now...just a few reiterations..
So if i opt to flash to NAND, is it flashing it to the NAND upon each boot or is it written once and thats it, it seems to take a little while longer to boot these ROMS on NAND than a stock ROM..so for instance, if i was to remove the SD card after shutting down the phone and then start it up again, would it not boot because its looking for the ROM on the SD to put into NAND ?...i understand that running from the SD card it just boots from the SD card.
So basically the last ROM i installed, as i did not pre setup the partitions on SD card, FAT32/1024mb ext4/512mb ext4 and went on to flash the rom it has ONLY flashed the ROM WITHOUT the apps and everything else it was supposed to have pre installed already ?...so i have now setup my SD card and i am going to follow through again from scratch and hopefully have the ROM running with all the said apps.
My SD card being setup FAT32 / 1024 ext4 / 512 ext4 doesnt seem to be a lot of space to store apps on the ext4 partitions, what data goes on what partitions...and do i HAVE to have the ext 4 at the stated sizes ?
Thanks again guys for your input, you have all been really helpful.
loady said:
Thanks guys...the fog is clearing a little now...just a few reiterations..
So if i opt to flash to NAND, is it flashing it to the NAND upon each boot or is it written once and thats it, it seems to take a little while longer to boot these ROMS on NAND than a stock ROM..so for instance, if i was to remove the SD card after shutting down the phone and then start it up again, would it not boot because its looking for the ROM on the SD to put into NAND ?...i understand that running from the SD card it just boots from the SD card.
So basically the last ROM i installed, as i did not pre setup the partitions on SD card, FAT32/1024mb ext4/512mb ext4 and went on to flash the rom it has ONLY flashed the ROM WITHOUT the apps and everything else it was supposed to have pre installed already ?...so i have now setup my SD card and i am going to follow through again from scratch and hopefully have the ROM running with all the said apps.
My SD card being setup FAT32 / 1024 ext4 / 512 ext4 doesnt seem to be a lot of space to store apps on the ext4 partitions, what data goes on what partitions...and do i HAVE to have the ext 4 at the stated sizes ?
Thanks again guys for your input, you have all been really helpful.
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If you use NAND then you can start your phone without SD card. The build is on NAND(ROM). Where win6.5 used to be originally. You do not HAVE TO partition your card. You can use whole card at FAT32 and store all your data on there. But if you choose, you can give some storage space as ext2/3/4 partition and store your apps in that partition. The benefit is you can free some space from your phone. When you boot your phone for the first time, it will be in original state. Then you can install apps from the market. These apps will be going to your phone's inbuilt memory by default. But you can use some apps to move apps from your phone storage to ext4 partition. But be aware that after you move your apps to SD card you have to have SD card in all times or those apps will not work when SD card is not there. As far as the size of ext4 partition is in question, 1024 MB is more than enough. As you will have some space on your phone and 1024MB on ext4. I would say if you install more apps than that, then you phone will be laggy like hell. ext4 partition size should not matter according to me.
Also read tutorials at this thread. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905841
^ Agreed. Don't do Apps2SD if you don't really need it. It's another possible source of problems (I've had my fair share of system crashes with A2SD on my ol' Magic, and the biggest problem was that there was no way of backing stuff up - stuff probably got more reliable nowadays though), it's not ideal for your SD card and speed isn't optimal either.
StephanV said:
^ Agreed. Don't do Apps2SD if you don't really need it. It's another possible source of problems (I've had my fair share of system crashes with A2SD on my ol' Magic, and the biggest problem was that there was no way of backing stuff up - stuff probably got more reliable nowadays though), it's not ideal for your SD card and speed isn't optimal either.
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People would have you believe otherwise..ext4 is faster but ext2 parsay is more reliable... for the life of me i have followed numerous guides explaining how to format the card, even one i followed from a rom was in perfect enlgish and easy to follow but my phone just locks at the spinning tmobile logo, it wont even boot into magldr...all i can do is reflash a stock rom using RUU...im sure i am doing everything in correct order
Hello Eeveryone,
I month back i had flashed nand wp7 on my htc hd2 T8585, after that i tried to flash anroid desire Z Rom, and i am getting message "almost full on phone memory".
I again tried lot of methods to get back my space, but i am unable to get. Now i had flashed with factory rom.
When i check on settings --->> SD card & Phone Storage, i am seeing
Total Storage - 162.42 MB
Used Storage - 41.96 MB
Free Storage - 120.46 MB
Total Ptogram - 208.20 MB
Used Program - 161.21 MB
Free Program - 46.99 MB
There was lot of space missing with rom n ram.Can i get any tool/help to get back my 512MB internal memory.
PLEASE HELP ME
naughty85 said:
Hello Eeveryone,
I month back i had flashed nand wp7 on my htc hd2 T8585, after that i tried to flash anroid desire Z Rom, and i am getting message "almost full on phone memory".
I again tried lot of methods to get back my space, but i am unable to get. Now i had flashed with factory rom.
When i check on settings --->> SD card & Phone Storage, i am seeing
Total Storage - 162.42 MB
Used Storage - 41.96 MB
Free Storage - 120.46 MB
Total Ptogram - 208.20 MB
Used Program - 161.21 MB
Free Program - 46.99 MB
There was lot of space missing with rom n ram.Can i get any tool/help to get back my 512MB internal memory.
PLEASE HELP ME
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Have you tried performing a Task29? Here´s the link to the thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=644781&highlight=task29
Hope this helps
RayHeath said:
Have you tried performing a Task29? Here´s the link to the thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=644781&highlight=task29
Hope this helps
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I had tried this too, actually this is wipping the space totally, but i feel my internal memory got partitioned i guess,i need to remove whole partitions inside and create a new one.
So are there any tools for working on partitions, please please help me.
brothers please give me a solution, hope some where there will be a tool for this. It will help me lot in getting my internal memory. Please provide me your valuable suggestions
naughty85 said:
I had tried this too, actually this is wipping the space totally, but i feel my internal memory got partitioned i guess,i need to remove whole partitions inside and create a new one.
So are there any tools for working on partitions, please please help me.
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have you tried flashing a winmo rom?
You can get one here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=577717
RayHeath said:
have you tried flashing a winmo rom?
You can get one here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=577717
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Thanks for you reply RayHeath, yes right now i flashed with the factory rom.
First i wiped everything by task29, then i flashed with the factory rom tracked by my serial number.
Even thoug Only 162.42 MB i can see in Total storage, if you have the same device can you please check with yours how much its showing please.
Imp note : in settings --> about phone ---> hardware information , i can see RAM SIZE : 576MB & FLASH MEMORY SIZE : 512 MB
ARE THE VALUES CORRECT
when you perform task29 you have to flash magldr again, did you think about that?
I think with task29 also partitions will be deleted...when you are able to install stock winmo rom you must be able to flash any other rom. At least mdjs cm7 should work when you try an android rom because it uses less memory than winmo.
naughty85 said:
Even thoug Only 162.42 MB i can see in Total storage, if you have the same device can you please check with yours how much its showing please.
Imp note : in settings --> about phone ---> hardware information , i can see RAM SIZE : 576MB & FLASH MEMORY SIZE : 512 MB
ARE THE VALUES CORRECT
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I would say this is normal
ike2903 said:
when you perform task29 you have to flash magldr again, did you think about that?
I think with task29 also partitions will be deleted...when you are able to install stock winmo rom you must be able to flash any other rom. At least mdjs cm7 should work when you try an android rom because it uses less memory than winmo.
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First thanks for your reply, Task29 wil not remove partitions, it wil wipe fully thats what i can conclude after my 2 days of investigation, the harware information which shows the values as 576 MB & 512 MB are fine. even i agree with you, as it is giving the values of hardware present on phone.
can you give me once your values @ settings ---> SD Card & Phone Storage please, then i can explain you more clear.
My values : Total Storage : 162.42 MB Urs :
Total Program : 208.20 MB Urs:
If any one have the same model with 512MB please provide me the inputs, usefull for investigation
naughty85 said:
can you give me once your values @ settings ---> SD Card & Phone Storage please, then i can explain you more clear.
My values : Total Storage : 162.42 MB Urs :
Total Program : 208.20 MB Urs:
If any one have the same model with 512MB please provide me the inputs, usefull for investigation
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I think you have to add these two (Storage and Programm) because winmo seperates?! Please, correct me if I'm wrong^^
I can tell but it would be useless because I'm using Android w/ data2ext
btw: I'd wp7 on my device 3 times and I always could get back to Winmo, Android or whatever. Maybe you should try to install magldr 1.13 and cwm 400mb. I don't think that your nand has gone
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I think you have to add these two (Storage and Programm) because winmo seperates?! Please, correct me if I'm wrong^^
I can tell but it would be useless because I'm using Android w/ data2ext
btw: I'd wp7 on my device 3 times and I always could get back to Winmo, Android or whatever. Maybe you should try to install magldr 1.13 and cwm 400mb. I don't think that your nand has gone
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You are right. Task29 does wipe everything. He was having problems with his internal storage.
Naughty, first he´s right, you should now flash the MAGldr 1.13. Then choose an Android NAND Rom from whoever you want. Most of the cooks have included the CWM already with the right size. It would definately be easier for you using one of them. I personally use CorDroid. It´s fast and used doesn´t use that much of the internal space on the HD2. And a lot of eye candy. And again very very FAST. Okay?
ike2903 said:
I think you have to add these two (Storage and Programm) because winmo seperates?! Please, correct me if I'm wrong^^
I can tell but it would be useless because I'm using Android w/ data2ext
btw: I'd wp7 on my device 3 times and I always could get back to Winmo, Android or whatever. Maybe you should try to install magldr 1.13 and cwm 400mb. I don't think that your nand has gone
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Sure i wil ltry today and give you the outcome.
RayHeath said:
You are right. Task29 does wipe everything. He was having problems with his internal storage.
Naughty, first he´s right, you should now flash the MAGldr 1.13. Then choose an Android NAND Rom from whoever you want. Most of the cooks have included the CWM already with the right size. It would definately be easier for you using one of them. I personally use CorDroid. It´s fast and used doesn´t use that much of the internal space on the HD2. And a lot of eye candy. And again very very FAST. Okay?
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I will try with Cordroid itself and let you know the outcome.
ike2903 said:
I think you have to add these two (Storage and Programm) because winmo seperates?! Please, correct me if I'm wrong^^
I can tell but it would be useless because I'm using Android w/ data2ext
btw: I'd wp7 on my device 3 times and I always could get back to Winmo, Android or whatever. Maybe you should try to install magldr 1.13 and cwm 400mb. I don't think that your nand has gone
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I think you have to add these two (Storage and Programm) because winmo seperates?! - And i dont think its correct as it will give the addition of both 2ill come 370.62 MB... any way i will confirm by dropping a thread in winmo. i feel those are ROM and RAM
naughty85 said:
I think you have to add these two (Storage and Programm) because winmo seperates?! - And i dont think its correct as it will give the addition of both 2ill come 370.62 MB... any way i will confirm by dropping a thread in winmo. i feel those are ROM and RAM
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Yes, those values are ROM and RAM... the ROM, or internal storage seems right, I think, because a lot of the internal storage is taken up by the operating system. The RAM seems a little low, though. Some of the RAM isn't shown because it is used by system and radio, but you should still have a total of 300 or more, I think. I can't remember what the numbers are suppose to be exactly. Try asking in WinMo section what their numbers are for the totals.
What WM rom did you flash? I have heard there's a problem with build 3.14 and HSPL, I think if I remember right. If that's the stock rom you flashed, you should probably try a different stock ROM or just task 29 and go directly to MAGLDR and whatever android or wp7 rom you want.
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Yes, those values are ROM and RAM... the ROM, or internal storage seems right, I think, because a lot of the internal storage is taken up by the operating system. The RAM seems a little low, though. Some of the RAM isn't shown because it is used by system and radio, but you should still have a total of 300 or more, I think. I can't remember what the numbers are suppose to be exactly. Try asking in WinMo section what their numbers are for the totals.
What WM rom did you flash? I have heard there's a problem with build 3.14 and HSPL, I think if I remember right. If that's the stock rom you flashed, you should probably try a different stock ROM or just task 29 and go directly to MAGLDR and whatever android or wp7 rom you want.
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thanks for your reply, i just dropped in Winmo and waiting for inputs....
I Flashed with 3.14.707.3 (04666) WWE, before this itself i had problem with it. I am not remembering , i tried for "DL.DesireZ.v3.4.final.nand" and also "Motoman234_MyTouch4G_V3.1_DAF" after WP7... from here i am seeing this problem.
Before WP7, i loaded "Motoman234_MyTouch4G_V3.1_DAF" just for review and it worked fine, but now due to less phone memory after flashing HTC SENSE itself is not loading "its force closing" nothing i can do just loop of this force close. So i concluded that there was some partition operation went accidentally, and now there is only 162.42 MB partition available for phone memory to use totally.
Are there any tool to work on phone memory partitions..??? i tried task29, clockwork recovery where i went for advance & wipe options too.
naughty85 said:
thanks for your reply, i just dropped in Winmo and waiting for inputs....
I Flashed with 3.14.707.3 (04666) WWE, before this itself i had problem with it. I am not remembering , i tried for "DL.DesireZ.v3.4.final.nand" and also "Motoman234_MyTouch4G_V3.1_DAF" after WP7... from here i am seeing this problem.
Before WP7, i loaded "Motoman234_MyTouch4G_V3.1_DAF" just for review and it worked fine, but now due to less phone memory after flashing HTC SENSE itself is not loading "its force closing" nothing i can do just loop of this force close. So i concluded that there was some partition operation went accidentally, and now there is only 162.42 MB partition available for phone memory to use totally.
Are there any tool to work on phone memory partitions..??? i tried task29, clockwork recovery where i went for advance & wipe options too.
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Okay, try the CoreDroid Rom. All of the apps will be installed automatically on sd card and you don´t need to worry about you internal memory. Here´s the link. By the way please read!
Sorry dude, forgot the link. Here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=926507
zarathustrax said:
Yes, those values are ROM and RAM... the ROM, or internal storage seems right, I think, because a lot of the internal storage is taken up by the operating system. The RAM seems a little low, though. Some of the RAM isn't shown because it is used by system and radio, but you should still have a total of 300 or more, I think. I can't remember what the numbers are suppose to be exactly. Try asking in WinMo section what their numbers are for the totals.
What WM rom did you flash? I have heard there's a problem with build 3.14 and HSPL, I think if I remember right. If that's the stock rom you flashed, you should probably try a different stock ROM or just task 29 and go directly to MAGLDR and whatever android or wp7 rom you want.
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Hippeee....Hurrrraayyyy....!!!
Total Program came to 336.17 MB, i removed HSPL and i got this.
But sir still i have one doubt, Now My RAM Size is showing 448MB, where before i had saw it as 576MB. How come suddenly it had been decreased. any idea...what should be the exact value of RAM Size should be in harware information...??
FYI: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11286863&postcount=6
Stock rom doesn't let the users use the full 576 ram. It will save some for the system.
Hey folks,
i set up my HTC HD2 with this Android (Coredroid 1.7) Version. Now i got at least one problem.
As i tried to start my phone, he said he's got too less internal memory (~ 576 KB). And that's where my problem(s) start(s). It's not possible for me to sign up for the MarketPlace, because i don't have a keyboard popped up (I guess because of too less memory - the set up of the phone (at the first start) also aborts when i try to type with the keyboard). My idea was to install App2SD to get some apps from internal memory to my SD Partition. But as I just said, i can not connect to the market. It's a vicious circle, seems at least like this to me.
I also read it could be a problem of a too big data.img, but actually I did not use my mobile at all so the data.img should be nearly virgin.
Would be nice if somebody got an idea, already asked in other (german) forums but just got the tip to install a "smaller" rom, but i would like to try CoreDroid (which should work for HTC Leo/HD2).
Best Regards
What size cwm partitions are you using?
Sent from my HD2 using xda premium
Do you mean the ext3 Partition on the SD-Card? I configured it with 1024MB, The Fat32 should be ~3GB. Hopefully this wasnt such a nooby answer
No, he means size of the Clockworkmod / a.k.a. system partition that your ROM requires... it's ROM specific...
But as I recall, coredroid has a somewhat odd way of installing it, it does this automatically...
Don't know what's up with your phone :/ , you can try another ROM (like TyphoonS) that has a step by step clean install instruction...
Ok, got it. But as you said, i used the flash.cfg from the Coredroid_1.7_Instructions.zip, extraced it together with the DAF.exe in the same folder and flashed Coredroid with the DAF.exe. Perhaps i try to adress another size than 390 MB or just try to flash CoreDroid once again, but this has to work . Got the used HTC HD2 since 2 Weeks and it never really worked yet
...just read a little bit more:
EU HD2s got 512MB RAM. Therefore CoreDroid, as a ROM which needs 390MB system space, should not work properly because there is too less space left. Is this right? Am I able to change the value for "system ya" in a certain range or does the ROM just work properly with nonEU/HDs with more internal space? Otherwise im going to try the JW MIUI 1.9.2 Rom...
I recently bought an HD2 T8585 and Installed the MIUI android 2.12.28 ROM on it..and it worked flawlessly but it requires 230M system so it gives me very less internal memory and I want something which could help me remove useless stuff or get extra internal memory....I dont want to repartition my sd-card because it has too much data and its just 4GB ........
Radio- 2.15.50.14
Bootloader- cLK 1.5
Internal Memory available - 0.00mb
Hello,
Okay, let's consider your options:
1- Repartition your SD card and use an a2sd or similar scripts. You said you don't want to repartition.
2- Delete some useless stuff. (Use Titanium Backup to unsinstall apps you don't use)
3- Use a smaller ROM, or a bare ROM.
4- Reconsider option 1. (It doesn't really take much, about 500 mb from your 4GB is enough I suppose)
Thanks
Thanks for your help.. I neede to know any Light ROM's ICS or JB.....I would prefer MIUI...:silly:
Feel free to have a look at the NAND development, and look for roms of your choice, and then rule out large ROMs. And then pick from what remained.