I recently bought an HD2 T8585 and Installed the MIUI android 2.12.28 ROM on it..and it worked flawlessly but it requires 230M system so it gives me very less internal memory and I want something which could help me remove useless stuff or get extra internal memory....I dont want to repartition my sd-card because it has too much data and its just 4GB ........
Radio- 2.15.50.14
Bootloader- cLK 1.5
Internal Memory available - 0.00mb
Hello,
Okay, let's consider your options:
1- Repartition your SD card and use an a2sd or similar scripts. You said you don't want to repartition.
2- Delete some useless stuff. (Use Titanium Backup to unsinstall apps you don't use)
3- Use a smaller ROM, or a bare ROM.
4- Reconsider option 1. (It doesn't really take much, about 500 mb from your 4GB is enough I suppose)
Thanks
Thanks for your help.. I neede to know any Light ROM's ICS or JB.....I would prefer MIUI...:silly:
Feel free to have a look at the NAND development, and look for roms of your choice, and then rule out large ROMs. And then pick from what remained.
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OK..I've done everything, installed DFT Android ROM for HTC LEO etc...everything seems to be working fine, BUT..((
Most of the apps from Market or any other cannot be moved from Phone memory to SD card, thus consuming all phone memory very fast, and disabling me to install any more apps...and we all know that Android rules just because there are so many apps for it...
So, my question is: is there any possible way of making Android install apps to SD card, rather then phone memory? 'Cause this way, my 16Gig card isn't much of use on Android )
Please help, because there is no point in having Android on this device, if I can install only so many apps on phone memory...
Very thankful in advance....
Greeting from remote Bosnia ))
Which Rom are you using?
I am using Hyperdroid and it allows me to move apps to SD.
And they are working fine.
I'm using Desire ROM...from DFT 2.2 Froyo..
And this one also allows moving apps, but just some, not all.....
Could anyone be as kind as to point me to a ROM with Sense that allows moving all apps to SD card?
ddcww said:
I'm using Desire ROM...from DFT 2.2 Froyo..
And this one also allows moving apps, but just some, not all.....
Could anyone be as kind as to point me to a ROM with Sense that allows moving all apps to SD card?
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The best method would be to create an ext partition for your phone. ALL the apps that would normally installed on the phone will be moved onto this partition on your SDcard, saving you space. However, the trade off is speed. It will be slightly slower, but I don't think you'll even notice the speed difference day-to-day.
You can follow my guide here on how to make an ext partition without losing your data on your SDcard. It should only take like 5min to do. [HOW-TO] Make Ext4 from Recovery Without Losing FAT32 Data
well, there are some apps on the market that allows u to move all the installed apps in the internal memory to the storage card.
Try App 2SD Enabler. When you run the app, be sure to read the instructions.
If that doesnt work, Titanium Backup has a function in it that allows you to move any installed app u want from internal to storage memory (when u open the app, press Menu and then Batch. There should be an option somewhere there)
edit: keep in mind that some apps such as widgets, have to be on the internal memory to work properly. The Ext4 method is good if u want to increase the internal memory (by sacrifasing some storage memory), but you won't be able to connect your phone to the pc via Mass Storage. Plus, if it's the method with the 3 partitions(tbh i don't know if it's just for the 3partition method or any partition number), some of the storage card will be used from the OS as well, making the removal of the SD card impossible.
I would recommend App 2 SD. I use it to move all the apps it can to the SD card and it really does free up a lot of space.
Does Titanium Backup allow all apps to be moved too SD card? Just curious because Apps2SD doesnt move all apps to the SD card just some of them from my experience..
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The original DFT Desire ROM wasnt rooted correctly so use Z4Root from market then try using apps like Titanium and App2SD etc etc.
As an alternative, if you like sense but without all the bloat and lag try the rom in my signature, its a stripped down version oh DesireHD it flies like **** of stick and has all the best bits of sense
Try a different ROM
The DFT rom was also my first, but the internal memory filled up in no time and made it unusable for me.
In my experience, if you move an app to the SD card, some residual data goes onto the internal memory so you will find that you still use it up. As mentioned above, you will need to put certain apps and all widgets on the internal memory anyway.
I would go for a 'clean' rom that gives you plenty of free memory. You should then have no problem with it filling up. Titanium backup (free from market) is a good app, although Apps2SD (also free) is good as it lets you know how much space you have left.
I settled on the prj rom in my signature as it gives 180Mb free space from install and everything works as it is based on the DFT rom with minimal tweaks. There are plenty of clean roms out there, so try some out.
The best solution really for EU HD2's (512MB) is to use a rom that supports Data2SD as that actually extends your internal memory to the partition on SD card so you have say 1GB of internal memory, this is much better then any other current methods as its much more compatible with apps.
Also, dont mess about with Gpartid or other partition apps, You can use CWR to do it, just partition 1GB and then choose 0 for swap. (unless told otherwise by dev).
Thanks everyone, really...
I did this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=931126
Partitioned the card during setup and now I have 1Gig, which is OK..also the ROM is really stable and fast.... Try this, I'm quite happy, it works great and it is an upgraded version of DFT Desire ROM... Cheers!!!
Hi,
I did a quick search and couldn't find anything on the topic.
I was wondering for a while now, some applications (usually the bigger ones like Angry Birds) must be installed on NAND for it to work - given the HD2's limited onboard phone memory, I can't install very many of these at the same time - requiring me to move it to SD when I don't use it very often to save on space.
A bit of a pain really. I was just wondering if there's a fix for this issue? I'm using one of the older CyanogenMod7 builds if I recall correctly.
Cheers.
use a rom that uses app2sd+ (a2sd+ whatever, ) or data2sd, , one that uses an EXT partition on the sd card. the system will treat the EXT as internal memory and apps such as angry will work. If the EXT is already there when you install such a rom, you dont have to do anything, it will detect the EXT partition and use it, no interaction on your part needed.
Most roms are set up to use an EXT, go read your roms first post.
Right, that makes a whole lot of sense. Cheers!
Hey folks,
i set up my HTC HD2 with this Android (Coredroid 1.7) Version. Now i got at least one problem.
As i tried to start my phone, he said he's got too less internal memory (~ 576 KB). And that's where my problem(s) start(s). It's not possible for me to sign up for the MarketPlace, because i don't have a keyboard popped up (I guess because of too less memory - the set up of the phone (at the first start) also aborts when i try to type with the keyboard). My idea was to install App2SD to get some apps from internal memory to my SD Partition. But as I just said, i can not connect to the market. It's a vicious circle, seems at least like this to me.
I also read it could be a problem of a too big data.img, but actually I did not use my mobile at all so the data.img should be nearly virgin.
Would be nice if somebody got an idea, already asked in other (german) forums but just got the tip to install a "smaller" rom, but i would like to try CoreDroid (which should work for HTC Leo/HD2).
Best Regards
What size cwm partitions are you using?
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Do you mean the ext3 Partition on the SD-Card? I configured it with 1024MB, The Fat32 should be ~3GB. Hopefully this wasnt such a nooby answer
No, he means size of the Clockworkmod / a.k.a. system partition that your ROM requires... it's ROM specific...
But as I recall, coredroid has a somewhat odd way of installing it, it does this automatically...
Don't know what's up with your phone :/ , you can try another ROM (like TyphoonS) that has a step by step clean install instruction...
Ok, got it. But as you said, i used the flash.cfg from the Coredroid_1.7_Instructions.zip, extraced it together with the DAF.exe in the same folder and flashed Coredroid with the DAF.exe. Perhaps i try to adress another size than 390 MB or just try to flash CoreDroid once again, but this has to work . Got the used HTC HD2 since 2 Weeks and it never really worked yet
...just read a little bit more:
EU HD2s got 512MB RAM. Therefore CoreDroid, as a ROM which needs 390MB system space, should not work properly because there is too less space left. Is this right? Am I able to change the value for "system ya" in a certain range or does the ROM just work properly with nonEU/HDs with more internal space? Otherwise im going to try the JW MIUI 1.9.2 Rom...
After using my HD2 for close to 1.5 years, I finally manage to get root on the Froyo NAND ROM I have, and installed Titanium Backup. What took me so long? Partly due to the fact I don't have much time to try out different ROMs and also I need something reliable, which made me stuck to the same early NAND release for so long, but the lack of internal space is really getting on my nerves recently.
Just a backtrack on what ROM I used. I followed instructions on the [GUIDE] Flashing Your First HD2 NAND Android Rom [For Newbs] thread, installed LEO "Stock Desire" NAND Android ROM by Cotulla and never bothered with anything else, even with the fact it doesn't have root access.
Upon installing Titanium Backup, I discovered a section where they listed "System ROM: 274MB (18.6MB free)" and "Internal: 144MB (17.2MB free)", well, that explains why I kept running out of space, the first boot up, I remembered I only have like 30MB out of the 144MB Internal space to use for any other external apps I installed! But another question beckons, 274MB + 144MB is only about 418MB, I thought we have 576MB to begin with on the HD2? What happened to the rest of the storage? I've checked my radio and I'm running on 2.15.50.14 which is supposed to have unlocked the extra memory.
And I'm also thinking of installing a new ROM after all these years, probably sticking with a Sense based one, which I've seen a pretty good Rom SENSATION XL V 3.0 or DESIRE HD OFFICIAL RUU_Ace_Gingerbread_S_V 3.0 made by haldric, but the partition of 5/220/5 or 5/180/5 is a little worrying as that would mean less internal space left for apps I install, but how does one calculate and estimate the amount of internal memory left after a clean install? If not, I would be considering tytung's NexusHD2-Gingerbread V3.2a which has a small system partition of 135MB, which probably meant I have more internal space left for apps instead, but it doesn't have SENSE, which I prefer to have even though it makes the phone slower.
Also, I guess I prefer to stick with the MAGLDR way of flashing thru DAF.exe as I think it's probably the most straight forward and easiest way compared to the other methods which seemed kinda complicated.
My main question is actually the "System ROM" and "Internal" size showed by Titanium backup, is that normal that it doesn't add up to the RAM/ROM size?
Hope to get some response soon. Thanks in advance!
ever thought of using ext???
Thealshear, I would, but it seems the procedure to set it up seemed pretty complicated, and, well, I've been thinking of trying out a new ROM as well.
I guess I got confused anyway, it's 512MB of ROM, so after deducting 274MB out of System ROM and 144MB out of Internal memory, where did the rest of the 94MB went? Cache?
First of all, RAM is a completely different thing from ROM.
ROM, stands for Read-only memory , is where your OS resides. Whereas RAM, stands for Random Access Memory (you should already know this), is where your running apps are kept ... RUNNING !
The HD2 only has a RAM of 576 MB (after radio install).
But as for the ROM:
The T-mobile packs a 1GB ROM, while the regular (Euro) HD2 only packs 512MB (not 576MB).
And finally, don't trust TB . Mine says (167 System ROM & 1GB internal when I actually own a European HD2 ) and that is because the A2SD script.
When you want to flash a recovery, your maximum is 400MB system (considering 10MB cache, 2MB boot, 5MB recovery & 1MB misc) Which totals to about 418MB.
I don't know why the rest is not used, but since it is happening on both DAF flashing AND CWM, then I assume it's a thing we cannot change.
Well, yeah, I just found out I got mistaken, it's the ROM size that I need to take note about, one of the things that baffled me coming from iOS is that, in iOS, whatever listed storage size, I could use it all up for apps instead of like in Android's case, it's based on the ROM size.
Anyway, other than checking the flash.cfg configuration, there's no where else to roughly estimate how much internal memory is left? Moving apps to SD doesn't seem to be the full blown solution as I think some parts will still be left on the ROM, or I had been misinformed?
Is it possible to setup without Clockwork Mod?
Settings > Storage
Always shows you the actual amount of MBs left for you to install apps. (If you're not using an A2SD script)
Why are you still on that rusty ROM ?
There are now much better ROMs with better functionality. Furthermore, the installation procedure is rather simple.
I recommend doing the following:
1- Sync your Contacts & Calendar Events to Google. (Auto by default)
2- Backup your SMS with any app from the Market. (Optional)
3- Backup your apps using TB backup (requires root ofc )
After that, wipe off your device using Task29. Then choose either MAGLDR or cLK (see what suits you best). Then install CWM (cWM comes pre-installed with cLK 1.5) .. then customize the partition sizes. Finally, flash your favourite ROM.
Well, as mentioned, I'm still on this rusty ROM due to convenience and I didn't had much time to tweak around. Back then, I got the HD2 as it was the only possible phone that has 4.3" on Android
Recently, the internal memory issue is getting on my nerves as I need a couple of apps that's impossible to install without having more internal memory! Which was why I finally decided it's time to read a little bit more to get a much better ROM instead without resorting to changing phones.
So, basically, whatever I do, I would still need to run Task29? I just found out about the HD2 NAND Toolkit, so in accordance to the procedure you mentioned, I would still need to run Task29, install MAGLDR, use HD2 NAND Toolkit and then install whatever ROM I choose to use? Is CWM necessary? Or it just helps to ease up the work later on?
Thanks again!
GRexer83 said:
Well, as mentioned, I'm still on this rusty ROM due to convenience and I didn't had much time to tweak around. Back then, I got the HD2 as it was the only possible phone that has 4.3" on Android
Recently, the internal memory issue is getting on my nerves as I need a couple of apps that's impossible to install without having more internal memory! Which was why I finally decided it's time to read a little bit more to get a much better ROM instead without resorting to changing phones.
So, basically, whatever I do, I would still need to run Task29? I just found out about the HD2 NAND Toolkit, so in accordance to the procedure you mentioned, I would still need to run Task29, install MAGLDR, use HD2 NAND Toolkit and then install whatever ROM I choose to use? Is CWM necessary? Or it just helps to ease up the work later on?
Thanks again!
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Task29 is unnecessary I feel. Just follow this guide and you should be fine. Do a wipe in MAGLDR, flash CWM and carry on from there.
In terms of the internal memory apps, which ones are these? I made sure to move all of my games to the SD card, and any app which has a significant amount of data. All the apps on my internal storage right now are Widgets and Launchers, works fine for me.
^What he said.
And yes, CWM is fundamental. On the other hand, task29 is not. But I like to do it when switching from MAGLDR to cLK or vice versa.
So i have a list of stuff that i couldn't do so im seeking ur guys help !!!
1. How to use more than 445 mb of system size when partitioning ...
i use magldr 1.1.3 and when i flash TWRP i modify the flash.cfg file and i write for example
500 mb in system and 10 mb for recovery and 44 mb for cache
...what do i need to do use more than that i always use [datatoext] so i really don't use the onboard nand
correct me if im wrong but its only used for system date and cache right ... or is cache take a part in the ram nand
2. what ever rom i use it always shows 410 mb of ram will im using a 1042 rom / 576 ram t-mobile HTC HD2 with
t-mous radio version 15.42.50.11U_2.15.50.14 so is it right or is there missing ram ..
3. I have used a lot of roms like each pixilfreak rom ,parnoid android , slim rom , miui roms ,aokp roms
and i have 120 / 130 mb ram usage with custom launchers like adw , nova ,apex .. good right !!
4. How do i know for sure that the 200mb swap partition that i created is being used ...
.. and then an of subject question i have a nokia lumia 920 so is wp on the hd2 any where close to that i know that the difference is like
moon and sun but i just want a couple of views cause i want to try wp 7 on the hd2 but i don't like one bit of it ..
and the 920 i gave to my sis just so u know *
1- 445mb is maximum for any hd2 (eu or tmous) afaik, never seen someone using more on tmous so i don't think it's possible
2- it's 576mb ram, but android shows 410 because parts of it are for video memory (128mb i think) and the rest is for system/kernel etc so you can use 410mb
3- is 3 a question?
4- that depends whether you created the partition correctly, and if the rom SUPPORTS swap (it should be an option in installer)
gilbert32 said:
1- 445mb is maximum for any hd2 (eu or tmous) afaik, never seen someone using more on tmous so i don't think it's possible
2- it's 576mb ram, but android shows 410 because parts of it are for video memory (128mb i think) and the rest is for system/kernel etc so you can use 410mb
3- is 3 a question?
4- that depends whether you created the partition correctly, and if the rom SUPPORTS swap (it should be an option in installer)
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thanks man for the fast repely this were just stuff going thru my mind that i wanted to clear ..
any how the swap partition is right because i use lubuntu linux as my main computer system
and i have a swap on that and also i have partitioned my sdcard with the gparted app .
i just wanted to know if there is a tool to monitor swap usage in android :cyclops::cyclops:
3abdo3asal said:
thanks man for the fast repely this were just stuff going thru my mind that i wanted to clear ..
any how the swap partition is right because i use lubuntu linux as my main computer system
and i have a swap on that and also i have partitioned my sdcard with the gparted app .
i just wanted to know if there is a tool to monitor swap usage in android :cyclops::cyclops:
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well i don't know about that
but there are 2 commands, swapon and swapoff in terminal emulator which you can use but they need linux knowledge and i never used them before so try google-ing for what you want to know
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...what do i need to do use more than that i always use [datatoext] so i really don't use the onboard nand
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your phone is using the onboard nand constantly, since that is where the system is running from.
Re:swap - personally i only use roms that either don't offer swap, or have the ability to choose not to activate it. The (usually very small) performance gain is hugely outweighed to my mind by the increased load/decreased life of the sd card.