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At&t 850hz on rooted? Possible?

Has anyone with a rooted nexus s managed to enable the at&t frequencies? 850hz? is it possible physically (is there a 3g 850hz frequency built in?)
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joesixpack1969 said:
Has anyone with a rooted nexus s managed to enable the at&t frequencies? 850hz? is it possible physically (is there a 3g 850hz frequency built in?)
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3G on this first version of the Nexus S (assuming they come out with an HSPA version as well like they did for the N1) supports 900, 1700, and 2100 MHz. The onboard hardware does not support 850hz / 1900hz.

That's a real bummer...
Short sighted of google too...
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joesixpack1969 said:
That's a real bummer...
Short sighted of google too...
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I'm pretty sure it was intentional. It would be in Google's best interest to have all bands so that they wouldn't need to release multiple versions like with the N1. They likely have a deal with T-Mo

joesixpack1969 said:
That's a real bummer...
Short sighted of google too...
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5 and 6 band HSPA radios are still quite uncommon. I can only think of one or two devices on the market that use them.
It is just life. Send them feedback and tell them you want an 850/1900 version.

Just wait for the Nexus S to come out on ATT, I seriously doubt Google is going to make the Nexus S strictly Tmobile. Tmobile makes up less than 10% of all cell phones, would be kind of stupid...

Why does it say quad band with 850hz here? http://www.google.com/nexus/#/tech-specs
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That's GSM - you can make calls and get 2G (EDGE) data just fine on AT&T with the Nexus S... but would you want to? =)
joesixpack1969 said:
Why does it say quad band with 850hz here? http://www.google.com/nexus/#/tech-specs
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Its not googles' fault. A long time ago the US gsm providers decided to add a download chanel to 3g gsm so that users couldn't take their phone from one provider to another and so the could not import phones in from europe. You can take a phone from att or tmo and it will do 3g on any european gsm provider you chose. However no normal european gsm phone will do 3g in the us. They lack the second download chanel. So don't complain about google, it was the providers that made a conscious decision to muck it up.
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dimes-jth said:
Its not googles' fault. A long time ago the US gsm providers decided to add a download chanel to 3g gsm so that users couldn't take their phone from one provider to another and so the could not import phones in from europe. You can take a phone from att or tmo and it will do 3g on any european gsm provider you chose. However no normal european gsm phone will do 3g in the us. They lack the second download chanel. So don't complain about google, it was the providers that made a conscious decision to muck it up.
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That's 100% true!!! Plus the batter life would be horrific with all those signals, and a bigger antenna! LOL
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I'm on ATT
I hate the EDGE speeds but there is nothing else we can do. I currently carry around my Nexus One with this one to use as a hotspot. Google will probably release another version within a couple months as they did with the N1. Hopefully they will cause tethering all the time is awesome to show off but cumbersome all at the same time

I picked up the nexus s yesterday. Love the phone compared to my Captivate on Cognition but EDGE is really hampering the experience.

petep86 said:
That's 100% true!!! Plus the batter life would be horrific with all those signals, and a bigger antenna! LOL
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Nokia managed to design a pentaband 3G (5 different 3G bands, 850/900/1700/1900/2100MHz) phone, the N8 and it has no problems AFAIK. Samsung probably doesn't have the knowledge or talent to design a pentaband 3G device though.

The T-Mobile Vibrant (a Samsung Galaxy S phone, just like our Nexus S) can be used with full 3G speeds on both T-Mobile and AT&T (1900mhz). My friend is currently using an unlocked T-Mo Vibrant on AT&T with no problems and fine 3G speeds.
Samsung certainly knows how to make a phone that will work on both networks; this was clearly a Google decision...why, we'll never know, but I suspect pressure from T-Mobile.

distortedloop said:
The T-Mobile Vibrant (a Samsung Galaxy S phone, just like our Nexus S) can be used with full 3G speeds on both T-Mobile and AT&T (1900mhz). My friend is currently using an unlocked T-Mo Vibrant on AT&T with no problems and fine 3G speeds.
Samsung certainly knows how to make a phone that will work on both networks; this was clearly a Google decision...why, we'll never know, but I suspect pressure from T-Mobile.
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At&t does not use 3g on 1900mhz everywhere. In fact, a major AT&T initiative in the past few years was to move 3g to the 850 band everywhere possible in order to enhance indoor signal strength.
A phone that can only do 3g on 1900mhz is not a nationwide solution for AT&T, coverage is quite hit or miss.

distortedloop said:
The T-Mobile Vibrant (a Samsung Galaxy S phone, just like our Nexus S) can be used with full 3G speeds on both T-Mobile and AT&T (1900mhz). My friend is currently using an unlocked T-Mo Vibrant on AT&T with no problems and fine 3G speeds.
Samsung certainly knows how to make a phone that will work on both networks; this was clearly a Google decision...why, we'll never know, but I suspect pressure from T-Mobile.
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Check the nexus s specs again. It does not have 1900mHz 3g in any form at all like the vibrant.
It only has 900, 1700, 2100.

RogerPodacter said:
Check the nexus s specs again. It does not have 1900mHz 3g in any form at all like the vibrant.
It only has 900, 1700, 2100.
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Re-read my post, and the post I was responding to again.
I never said that the Nexus S supports 850/900, I was telling a guy who said Samsung didn't know how to make such a phone that he was incorrect because Samsung has already made such a phone (the Vibrant which supports both AWS/1700/1900/2100 on the UMTS side).
Ironic that you're telling me to re-read something when you should have done the same before correcting me.
Peace!

Mactagonist said:
At&t does not use 3g on 1900mhz everywhere. In fact, a major AT&T initiative in the past few years was to move 3g to the 850 band everywhere possible in order to enhance indoor signal strength.
A phone that can only do 3g on 1900mhz is not a nationwide solution for AT&T, coverage is quite hit or miss.
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Yes, I'm well aware of this, but if you're in any major metro area where AT&T has been offering 3G service for a couple of years or more, 1900 is likely available to you. 850 is in far fewer areas, isn't it? It's only a recent addition to San Francisco as I recall.
1900 support in the Nexus S would have made it much more attractive to me, and a viable AT&T alternative for many across much of the country, but I'll concede that 850/1900 would be necessary to address the whole nation.

I see I mis read your post thinking it meant it had 1900.

Whats the difference between Atrix and Atrix 4G?

International market is getting Atrix 3G, US is getting 4G. Is there any difference? As far as I know, both versions support HSPA+.

syl0n said:
International market is getting Atrix 3G, US is getting 4G. Is there any difference? As far as I know, both versions support HSPA+.
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Largely terminology. If you mean HSPA+, then no, there's no difference. Someone has hinted that the Atrix will make it to other carriers. If it goes to Verizon, we could see a version that supports LTE. Then you'll have a difference. Until then, it's HSPA+ on various frequencies (assuming there will be a European version on a quirky frequency, and assuming it hits TMo).
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There is no difference at all. In Europe they don't call HSPA+ 4G, so it's not called a 4G phone there.

It's kind of weird, it's probably because of some more restrictive laws outside the US where you can't call a cat a tiger (after all, HSPA+ is NOT 4G). Otherwise, they would surely market it the same way in Canada and Europe.

PuerkitoBio said:
It's kind of weird, it's probably because of some more restrictive laws outside the US where you can't call a cat a tiger (after all, HSPA+ is NOT 4G). Otherwise, they would surely market it the same way in Canada and Europe.
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The idea of US carriers calling HSPA+ 4G is that it is delivering 4G speeds using upgraded 3G technology. 14.4Mbps HSPA+ with AT&T is nearly on par with the LTE speeds we will see on Verizon initially. T-Mobile is cranking their HSPA+ up to 42Mbps or something similar. It will be some time before carriers can really flex LTE muscle, but for now there really won't be that huge of a speed difference, so all these carriers calling their data tech 4G is just marketing.
Besides, LTE is NOT 4G either by definition. LTE is more of a 3.5G technology, similar to HSPA+, but the cool thing with LTE is that over time it can be upgraded to approximately 300Mbps theoretical download speed, while HSPA+ can only be upgraded to approximately 84Mbps download speed.
LTE Advanced will be the first technically compliant 4G technology on the market, but we are still years off from seeing that in the real world.
So take everything you see about 4G as a grain of salt. Atrix 4G vs Atrix is just marketing lingo.
And when people want to say that the Droid Bionic is a real 4G device would technically be incorrect. So don't think your Atrix is in any way inferior to the Bionic (except maybe camera and screen size).

PuerkitoBio said:
It's kind of weird, it's probably because of some more restrictive laws outside the US where you can't call a cat a tiger (after all, HSPA+ is NOT 4G).
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It is now. Standards folks changed their minds, and as of last month or so current WiMax, current LTE, and HSPA+ are all 4G.

when i talked with my rep basically he said they were dropping the 4g just to make things easier. The phone is the same, just some people are still using the superfluous 4g tag.

Does this mean that we can buy a sim-free Atrix 4g from at&t, bring it to europe and use it with european sim cards?or any other gsm sim-cards around the world?

Po0yAn said:
Does this mean that we can buy a sim-free Atrix 4g from at&t, bring it to europe and use it with european sim cards?or any other gsm sim-cards around the world?
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I'd really like to know that as well. Besides this the only thing preventing me from ordering an unlocked version as soon as such is available is the bootloader thing.

A_Kirsh said:
I'd really like to know that as well. Besides this the only thing preventing me from ordering an unlocked version as soon as such is available is the bootloader thing.
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same here.thats why im considering galaxy s2 now. i have both moto milestone and galaxy s,the build quality of moto is way better.also my friends like the milestone build and look more,but the locked up bootloader really frustrated me.although there aren't much of great custom roms for galaxy s either,we haven't had a decent cyanogenmod rom around yet, after 8 month since galaxy s been released.
i like atrix more because of better build,higher resolution and tegra 2,but the damn bootloader and later release date along with slightly better specs for s2 like shipping with 2.3 and better camera is changing my desire.
not to mention that this time moto is using PenTile for it LCD and sami is using stripe matrix for its samoled+. thats another let down for atrix.
it was stupid from moto to change the lcd tech on atrix, stripe matrix looked great on milestone.
u can see the differences here:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4165/the-motorola-atrix-4g-preview/4
you can see im pretty confused here!if only the damn nexus s was shipped with a daul core cpu!

LockeCPM4 said:
The idea of US carriers calling HSPA+ 4G is that it is delivering 4G speeds using upgraded 3G technology. 14.4Mbps HSPA+ with AT&T is nearly on par with the LTE speeds we will see on Verizon initially. T-Mobile is cranking their HSPA+ up to 42Mbps or something similar. It will be some time before carriers can really flex LTE muscle, but for now there really won't be that huge of a speed difference, so all these carriers calling their data tech 4G is just marketing.
Besides, LTE is NOT 4G either by definition. LTE is more of a 3.5G technology, similar to HSPA+, but the cool thing with LTE is that over time it can be upgraded to approximately 300Mbps theoretical download speed, while HSPA+ can only be upgraded to approximately 84Mbps download speed.
LTE Advanced will be the first technically compliant 4G technology on the market, but we are still years off from seeing that in the real world.
So take everything you see about 4G as a grain of salt. Atrix 4G vs Atrix is just marketing lingo.
And when people want to say that the Droid Bionic is a real 4G device would technically be incorrect. So don't think your Atrix is in any way inferior to the Bionic (except maybe camera and screen size).
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Just thought I'd correct you. Tmobile has claimed they can reach speeds of up to 672mbps with their HSPA+ tech. Honestly with speeds like that is there any real need for LTE?
"Now we're seeing a chart of T-Mobile's 4G evolution on the HSPA+ technology path, starting with 21Mbps in 2010. We're seeing 28, 42, 84, 168, and 672Mbps bars here as we move through dual-carrier, MIMO, and so on."
http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/06/live-from-t-mobiles-ces-2011-press-event/

svengalis said:
"Now we're seeing a chart of T-Mobile's 4G evolution on the HSPA+ technology path, starting with 21Mbps in 2010. We're seeing 28, 42, 84, 168, and 672Mbps bars here as we move through dual-carrier, MIMO, and so on."
http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/06/live-from-t-mobiles-ces-2011-press-event/
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This is basically LTE. They will be switching to it eventually, and these technologies is what makes up most of it.
Just to make sure everyone's aware. Without a huge picocell/femtocell underlay, you will never see anything over 6-12 meg on an LTE network.

The difference between atrix 4g and atrix for europe could be regarding frequencies: 4g shold be 3g on frequencies 850/1900/2100 while european version 850/900/1900/2100. This should be not a problem because almost in all europe 3g works on 2100 Mhz frequency. What do you think about it?

mercuryzzz said:
The difference between atrix 4g and atrix for europe could be regarding frequencies: 4g shold be 3g on frequencies 850/1900/2100 while european version 850/900/1900/2100. This should be not a problem because almost in all europe 3g works on 2100 Mhz frequency. What do you think about it?
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Since most 3G GSM operates in the 2100MHZ area nowadays, I don't this this is too much of a problem (if I'm wrong could someone please correct me?)
I'm now curious as to what exactly is the unlock procedure (sim-wise) of an att Atrix... Can anyone please explain (in detail) ?

True 4G on our Atrixs

Just a thought... but if verizon was willing to upgrade all the xooms to 4G why doesn't AT&T do the same for our phones when they roll out their LTE? Just a thought since having a powerful device (even though its crippled) with awesome speeds would be nice.
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it's not that simple. there's no magic 'switch' or replaceable part that enables LTE.

That and the fact that the Xoom is a Google flagship device.

drock212 said:
Just a thought... but if verizon was willing to upgrade all the xooms to 4G why doesn't AT&T do the same for our phones when they roll out their LTE? Just a thought since having a powerful device (even though its crippled) with awesome speeds would be nice.
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Anyone who buys the Xoom now that wants LTE later has to send their device into Moto to have the hardware upgraded to support LTE

It's quite clear that the Xoom was designed with upgradability in mind while the Atrix wasn't. Actually if I remember correctly the Xoom has an open expansion slot. I'm sure ifixit would have the information. I know however that the Atrix radio chip is soldered in place. Realistically though, AT&T has no active LTE network and won't until probably after the T-Mobile acquisition is complete - they have started they want to use the AWS band for their LTE network. And by then we'll all be lining up to buy the next high end phone. Hexacore anyone?
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phobos512 said:
It's quite clear that the Xoom was designed with upgradability in mind while the Atrix wasn't. Actually if I remember correctly the Xoom has an open expansion slot. I'm sure ifixit would have the information. I know however that the Atrix radio chip is soldered in place. Realistically though, AT&T has no active LTE network and won't until probably after the T-Mobile acquisition is complete - they have started they want to use the AWS band for their LTE network. And by then we'll all be lining up to buy the next high end phone. Hexacore anyone?
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Well, they're using T-mo's bands to help expand their pre-determined LTE rollout from 80% to 95%. They also want to use T-Mo to help support their H+, but AT&T already had spectrum set up for their LTE before this acquisition

When LTE on AT&T is out you are going to have already your next Android phone with quad core processor;-)

mgymnop said:
When LTE on AT&T is out you are going to have already your next Android phone with quad core processor;-)
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We might be talking through biological implants in our ears

PLEASE MAKE STICKY - Rogers GT-P7500R is NOT an actual 4G device!!!

Hi All,
For ALL my Canadian brethren here in the wonderful world of Galaxy Tab goodness, I wish to advise you (some of you may already know) that we are essentially being LIED to by Rogers (and other Canadian carriers) and our devices are NOT true 4G (LTE) devices but are really GLORIFIED 3G/3.5G units.
See the attached pics and you will see that my box for my tab CLEARLY states that it is a 4G Tablet but again I repeat... IT IS NOT!!!
I don't believe that we here in Canada actually have a true 4G / LTE provider and as such Rogers, Bell and Telus have been marketing 3.5G HSPA+ (21+Mbps) Devices as 4G which is unfortunately just NOT true considering that REAL 4g / LTE devices are capable of upwards of 75+ Mbps.
I write this as I wish to help ensure that people who are trying to ROOT and flash new ROMS are NOT using the wrong files and thus BRICKING there new toys!!!
Please ensure that you follow the steps / guides for the 3G units when ROOTING, FLASHING, etc and you will be fine (as long as you read the instructions and know what you are doing).
Please MOD... Make this STICKY!!!
Thanks...

yiannisthegreek said:
Hi All,
For ALL my Canadian brethren here in the wonderful world of Galaxy Tab goodness, I wish to advise you (some of you may already know) that we are essentially being LIED to by Rogers (and other Canadian carriers) and our devices are NOT true 4G (LTE) devices but are really GLORIFIED 3G/3.5G units.
See the attached pics and you will see that my box for my tab CLEARLY states that it is a 4G Tablet but again I repeat... IT IS NOT!!!
I don't believe that we here in Canada actually have a true 4G / LTE provider and as such Rogers, Bell and Telus have been marketing 3.5G HSPA+ (21+Mbps) Devices as 4G which is unfortunately just NOT true considering that REAL 4g / LTE devices are capable of upwards of 75+ Mbps.
I write this as I wish to help ensure that people who are trying to ROOT and flash new ROMS are NOT using the wrong files and thus BRICKING there new toys!!!
Please ensure that you follow the steps / guides for the 3G units when ROOTING, FLASHING, etc and you will be fine (as long as you read the instructions and know what you are doing).
Please MOD... Make this STICKY!!!
Thanks...
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Nothing new. The t-mobile usa tab 10.1 is advertised as 4g and is HSPA+ 42Mb. 7500 roms still work with it. (Im using it now. Only difference between tmobile stock rom and others is tmo shows 4g while others shows H)

djdanska said:
Nothing new. The t-mobile usa tab 10.1 is advertised as 4g and is HSPA+ 42Mb. 7500 roms still work with it. (Im using it now. Only difference between tmobile stock rom and others is tmo shows 4g while others shows H)
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Yup... Rogers stock ROM also showed as 4G but I have since flashed to AOKP and it now shows as H as well...

yiannisthegreek said:
Yup... Rogers stock ROM also showed as 4G but I have since flashed to AOKP and it now shows as H as well...
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Rogers has never ONLY called LTE as "4G", "4G" under the "older" definition as HSPA+, while LTE was called "beyond 4G". So there was no lie.
btw, if you are on "LTE", it would show "LTE" at the status bar. (as shown in Galaxy S 2 LTE, Galaxy Note LTE, and HTC Jetstream LTE). None of Rogers LTE devices were given naming convention with "4G" but "LTE"
yiannisthegreek said:
Hi All,
For ALL my Canadian brethren here in the wonderful world of Galaxy Tab goodness, I wish to advise you (some of you may already know) that we are essentially being LIED to by Rogers (and other Canadian carriers) and our devices are NOT true 4G (LTE) devices but are really GLORIFIED 3G/3.5G units.
See the attached pics and you will see that my box for my tab CLEARLY states that it is a 4G Tablet but again I repeat... IT IS NOT!!!
I don't believe that we here in Canada actually have a true 4G / LTE provider and as such Rogers, Bell and Telus have been marketing 3.5G HSPA+ (21+Mbps) Devices as 4G which is unfortunately just NOT true considering that REAL 4g / LTE devices are capable of upwards of 75+ Mbps.
I write this as I wish to help ensure that people who are trying to ROOT and flash new ROMS are NOT using the wrong files and thus BRICKING there new toys!!!
Please ensure that you follow the steps / guides for the 3G units when ROOTING, FLASHING, etc and you will be fine (as long as you read the instructions and know what you are doing).
Please MOD... Make this STICKY!!!
Thanks...
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According to International Telecommunication Union, HSPA+ is classified as 4G.
http://www.itu.int/net/pressoffice/press_releases/2010/48.aspx

Hi there, not sure why you think the Galaxy Tab is not 4G. Mine states 4G when it's connected to the 4G network and I'm in Windsor where 4G has just been introduced and hopefully LTE, since my SGS II is LTE. Trust me I know how slow 3G is compared to 4G and this device is 4G. Maybe someone should do a speed test to show that it is in fact 4G or H+.

the galaxy tab doesn't have an LTE chip inside (unless you have a Verizon version). you're probably experiencing HSPA+, gdmuscle.

gdmuscle said:
Hi there, not sure why you think the Galaxy Tab is not 4G. Mine states 4G when it's connected to the 4G network and I'm in Windsor where 4G has just been introduced and hopefully LTE, since my SGS II is LTE. Trust me I know how slow 3G is compared to 4G and this device is 4G. Maybe someone should do a speed test to show that it is in fact 4G or H+.
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If you read my OP you will understand why I wrote it. TRUE 4G as I understand it is based on LTE however I do also know that here in Canada HSPA+ IS considered 4g as well which is weird and confusing.
Also... If you noticed in my OP you will see that I wanted to warn users about ROOTING and Flashing ROMS, etc as on the Rogers version of the GTAB we MUST use the 3G ROOT method and flash ROMS for the 3G version of the Tablet and NOT the 4G/LTE ROMS, etc or we will brick our devices.
The only 4G/LTE TAB on the market is the Verizon version. Our boxes, etc state 4G so I can see (and have seen some here) people getting confused and try to ROOT with the wrong method and flash the wrong ROMS.
I just want to make it clear and easy for people which is why I posted this thread.

yiannisthegreek said:
If you read my OP you will understand why I wrote it. TRUE 4G as I understand it is based on LTE however I do also know that here in Canada HSPA+ IS considered 4g as well which is weird and confusing.
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Correction: The Current LTE being used was NOT considered 4g until they allowed HSPA+ and this current version of LTE to be considered 4g. Until then, LTE Advanced was the ONLY true 4g, which is not in deployed yet from what i understand.
So, based on the original rules, NOBODY ANYWHERE has a 4g tab 10.1. lmao!

djdanska said:
Correction: The Current LTE being used was NOT considered 4g until they allowed HSPA+ and this current version of LTE to be considered 4g. Until then, LTE Advanced was the ONLY true 4g, which is not in deployed yet from what i understand.
So, based on the original rules, NOBODY ANYWHERE has a 4g tab 10.1. lmao!
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There is no commercial "4g" networks anywhere; the wireless companies realized--or rather the marketers realized--you can't sell many devices branded "3.5g". Once one company started calling it 4g, all the others had to follow suit. Even LTE networks are actually 3g (or "3.5g"). Until they can get 1gbps stationary (or 100mbps non-stationary), none of them will actually be 4g; but I guarantee the marketers don't care about that... I'm guessing the tech will actually be "3g" for what the marketers will call "5g"... No big deal, it's just a name anyways. Also, if you think this is the most dishonest thing the marketers are pushing on you, well....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4G
So the sky isn't falling; you might want to take the stuff in capital letters out of the thread title...

Reminds me of Seinfeld...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vn_PSJsl0LQ
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jus rooted a p7500r thinking it was 4g with the rooting process of a 4g .now its looping.shuld i flash it with the p7500r 3g files as u say in ur post

well isnt this wonderful...

It is as 4g as hspa+ is 4g.
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LTE not appearing in notification Bar

I saw LTE yesterday in my notification bar, and that was the first time I saw it in 2 weeks. I always have 4G, but I believe that's HSPA+. Anyone have anything similar, and how they would fix it?
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QuickSkope said:
I saw LTE yesterday in my notification bar, and that was the first time I saw it in 2 weeks. I always have 4G, but I believe that's HSPA+. Anyone have anything similar, and how they would fix it?
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Maybe there are issues with LTE in your area? If you didn't change anything on the phone I would reboot it just to be sure but it's probably a coverage issue.

I'm gonna talk to Rogers today, cause I should have LTE around my area.
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HSPA+ is H+, not 4G. Test your connection speed if you're unsure, anything over 10mbps (especially for upload) is most likely LTE. I get around 24-36mbps up here in Canada.
Edit: Ah, that might be different for each carrier then. I definitely get H+ when I am on HSPA+.

8mb/s. On download, I don't believe those are LTE speeds, and if they are they're pass poor.
Also, never seen H+ on my GS4, so I think 4G is HSPA+.
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The "4G" indicator is HSPA+.
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On the AT&T version, when on LTE, there is a small print "LTE" under the 4G symbol. The term 4G has been abused so much, God knows what it means on any given device.

I`ve got the rogers one and it says LTE when theres LTE and 4G when there isn`t.
Check your apns and make sure its ltemobile.apn set up ?

kylecore said:
I`ve got the rogers one and it says LTE when theres LTE and 4G when there isn`t.
Check your apns and make sure its ltemobile.apn set up ?
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Where are you located? And ya, I have my Rogers LTE and my tethering APN as well.
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QuickSkope said:
Where are you located? And ya, I have my Rogers LTE and my tethering APN as well.
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I'm in Chatham Ontario.
Between Windsor and London

I think it might be a radio issue with the stock ROM. It was the same on the S2 Skyrocket, some radios worked better than others. The Radio I had on my S2 when I switched over to the S4 showed LTE in my area constantly. Previous radios on that phone were hit and miss...some a lot better than others. I guess we will have to wait until the BootLoader is unlocked (for AT&T S4s) and other basebands (radios) are released until we can test and see which one works better in each area.
My S4 has a pretty good connection now, but it too shows 4G where it use to show LTE. Like I said, some radios do better than others when handling LTE connections.

So apparently the representative lied to me and said that I would have LTE, but my region doesn't support it. That's awesome : /. Thought it doesn't explain why I had it for a brief period. Maybe it came from a tower with LTE. Weird.
Well, This things going back unless a representative can give me a decent deal : /

QuickSkope said:
So apparently the representative lied to me and said that I would have LTE, but my region doesn't support it. That's awesome : /. Thought it doesn't explain why I had it for a brief period. Maybe it came from a tower with LTE. Weird.
Well, This things going back unless a representative can give me a decent deal : /
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Are you positive that your area doesn't have LTE? Just because the phone is capable of having LTE doesn't mean you are guaranteed an LTE signal. You have to be within the LTE broadcast area and, your phone's modem (radio) has to pick up that LTE signal. Like I said before, the phones radio has a lot to do with it. Some just handle LTE connection (and all connections) better than others. Radios are flashable, but the bootloader has to be unlocked, with custom recovery installed and different versions of the radio have to be available before Devs can make them flashable. Some will do better than others. It's just a matter of trying them when they are available.

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Are you positive that your area doesn't have LTE? Just because the phone is capable of having LTE doesn't mean you are guaranteed an LTE signal. You have to be within the LTE broadcast area and, your phone's modem (radio) has to pick up that LTE signal. Like I said before, the phones radio has a lot to do with it. Some just handle LTE connection (and all connections) better than others. Radios are flashable, but the bootloader has to be unlocked, with custom recovery installed and different versions of the radio have to be available before Devs can make them flashable. Some will do better than others. It's just a matter of trying them when they are available.
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I live in Nanaimo BC, Checking the Rogers Map, it states that LTE is "Coming Soon". Which is ambituitous to say the least.

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