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I cannot believe this dude will publicly bash and feud with members of XDA, then attempt to sell his kernel for $5.50..A MONTH! That's almost as much as I pay for Sirius satellite radio.
The idea is revolting. Absolutely devs should make money off their work, but the fact that people are supporting this guy is extremely disheartening. I implore everyone to not support his nonsense and wait for the public release, or find it another way.
I'm not saying he's not a good dev, his kernel is widely used and stable, but his actions and his juvenile behavior added with his holier-than-thou persona makes him persona-non-grata to me, and hopefully to you too.
I was willing to look past the fact he's been kicked off XDA and even the fact that he fueds with other devs and I was willing to try his kernel, as a persons coding skill should not be affected by his child-like behavior, but the fact that he charges a monthly friggin fee goes against everything this open source movement stands for and his actions actually hinder the further development of our Samsung Galaxies.
Don't. Just don't. He doesn't deserve your support.
agreed! lol
i thought i was the only one that thought this hahaha
WOW! CANT WAIT TO TRY THIS!
...flashing now.
wait you didn't develop anything...learn to post in the correct forum.
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WOW! CANT WAIT TO TRY THIS!
...flashing now.
wait you didn't develop anything...learn to post in the correct forum.
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i'm commenting on the development of a known developer, in the development forum. That a problem?
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i'm commenting on the development of a known developer, in the development forum. That a problem?
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I believe geekus33 was trying to say this is more of a general forum topic; as it's not a comment/post from either a Dev or a comment on a bug with a ROM/MOD/Kernel.
Besides, this is more of a childish rant than anything else. Not useful in any way shape or form. If you don't like the way someone does business don't support them by voting with your wallet.
~SB
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Not supporting this thread, not denying what it's stating, just wondering how it can even be charged monthly. Is there built in software that makes it stop working if you haven't paid up, or what?
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i'm commenting on the development of a known developer, in the development forum. That a problem?
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Technically, geekus33 is right. Whenever you want to post something like this, just post it under General. Development sections are for Roms, Kernels, and Development projects, and not to talk about them.
sorry if this should be posted elsewhere, although i fail to see why.
in any event, all of you *****ing about me *****ing, are just doing the same thing you said i shouldn't do.
I N C E P T I O N
Moved to general as not development.
Please see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8475563&postcount=2 for guidance on when to post in development.
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Technically, geekus33 is right. Whenever you want to post something like this, just post it under General. Development sections are for Roms, Kernels, and Development projects, and not to talk about them.
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ahh, i see. i read the rules, but just misunderstood the different forums. my bad.
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i'm commenting on the development of a known developer, in the development forum. That a problem?
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yeah, it belongs in general, Development section is for developers to share work, and communicate with other developers.
not saying your opinion is any less valid just doesn't belong here...
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ahh, i see. i read the rules, but just misunderstood the different forums. my bad.
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Its cool...I tend to be overly sarcastic.
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yeah, it belongs in general, Development section is for developers to share work, and communicate with other developers.
not saying your opinion is any less valid just doesn't belong here...
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yah i re-read the rules. my bad. now my rant seems less meaningful
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Its cool...I tend to be overly sarcastic.
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me too! we should hand out. go bowling or something.
Its a paypal monthly recurring charge, you can unsubscribe anytime, it won't affect your hardware, just you may not get the new password when its updated to get into the donation section.
wait, are you serious?
Where is this thread that talks about a monthly fee? I've always heard nothing but BAD things, but this is absolutely laughable.
If you go to his site you will see over on the right a place to subscribe for either Platinum or Gold level membership. The membership entitles you for exclusive access to the kernels and also he says you will make you a custom ROM or something. $5.50/month
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If you go to his site you will see over on the right a place to subscribe for either Platinum or Gold level membership. The membership entitles you for exclusive access to the kernels and also he says you will make you a custom ROM or something. $5.50/month
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yup. and the $5.50 a month entitles you to the updates of your kernel. otherwise, you're out of luck.
what a douche.
If he's distributing a modified linux kernel, he has to provide the source to go with it under the terms of the GPL. So, anybody who "subscribes" will have the rights to the source code and can republish that. If he's *not* distributing his source code along with the binaries, that's a GPL violation, and I bet the FSF would be interested.
I'm all for people asking for donations and all, but unless he's providing the code to subscribers this is a problem. If he *is* providing the code to subscribers, they can turn around and repost it for everybody else to use.
mind = blown
Thank God we have people like Team Whiskey, Eugene and JAC (not a complete list, just examples).
he's not.
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Just to their this out here... Anyone who publishes ROMs and other mods here... How's the compliance going? Seems that it's strictly enforced on the other forums, but not here. Did I miss anything?
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You did miss something: a ROM called Baked Snack and a dev named Herver.
I think you are referring to the DK28 Froyo ROMs, they have not been published under the GPL yet by Samsung and therefore there is no source available to publish. Once Samsung releases their source and ROMs are based on that I will assume they will comply...
Geoff
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I think you are referring to the DK28 Froyo ROMs, they have not been published under the GPL yet by Samsung and therefore there is no source available to publish. Once Samsung releases their source and ROMs are based on that I will assume they will comply...
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That is what I was thinking.
Nah, actually I wasn't thinking about dk28. I completely forgot about hero_over
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Nah, actually I wasn't thinking about dk28. I completely forgot about hero_over
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Can we file this thread under who cares? Seriously, is this thread even necessary?
ScientificOne said:
Can we file this thread under who cares? Seriously, is this thread even necessary?
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Actually it is. Pretty important. To steal from 12aon's post:
Recently in several Android fora on XDA-Developers, it has come to the attention of the moderator team that there have been issues regarding developers’ compliance with the GPL. This post aims to clarify the position of XDA on the use of GPL sources, particularly in the development of Android kernels.
Without the GPL, the Android operating system would likely never have come about. Through the work of Linus Torvalds, the Linux kernel was made open source for all to use, share and modify. As Android runs on the Linux kernel, and features numerous modifications to these sources, it would not exist in its present state without the Open Source community.
As a result, it is in the interests of everyone who owns an Android phone, who wishes to see further development on the platform, to ensure that they play their part in upholding both the letter and spirit of the GPL.
The GNU General Public Licence (also known as the GPL) is available to read in full at www.gnu.org
To make it easy for everyone to spot a release that complies with the GPL mark the title of your release thread with [GPL]. If you find a ROM which does not comply with the GPL, or the developer does not issue sources, you can report the post as usual, using the report post button next to the post number. Alternatively you may PM your forum specific moderator.
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Actually it is. Pretty important. To steal from 12aon's post:
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Then how about instead of throwing out a vague (possibly rhetorical) question you cite some actual problem/violation witht he GPL and work to fix it? Unless of course there weren't really any problems that you saw and you just wanted to start a thread to be an antagonistic jacka**.
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Then how about instead of throwing out a vague (possibly rhetorical) question you cite some actual problem/violation witht he GPL and work to fix it? Unless of course there weren't really any problems that you saw and you just wanted to start a thread to be an antagonistic jacka**.
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+1. OP, you are the second person to post about this. Of course you don't point out how we are in violation, but here is your answer: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=867318
You're welcome.
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Then how about instead of throwing out a vague (possibly rhetorical) question you cite some actual problem/violation witht he GPL and work to fix it? Unless of course there weren't really any problems that you saw and you just wanted to start a thread to be an antagonistic jacka**.
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Couldn't agree more. To the OP, if you think someone is in non-compliance, how about using a PM to a mod and have them follow up? This thread is retarded and should be closed.
They trollin...they hatinn...lookin tryin to catch the devs ridinn dirty...lol
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I was under the impression that Android was NOT GPL. So of course they do NOT have to follow it. Android is under ASL, but the kernel is GPL. Different licenses different rules.
pretty sure the deal is that when someone asks for the GPL then they must release their source, but if no one asks than everythings good baby babbbbby! from what i remember herver saying on his personal forum.
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Just to their this out here... Anyone who publishes ROMs and other mods here... How's the compliance going? Seems that it's strictly enforced on the other forums, but not here. Did I miss anything?
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did you ever stop to think... maybe this is why you don't have any friends??
we all know how jealous you are of all the awesomeness going on here and how our phones would run laps around yours if phones had legs . you must be really bored , im sure you can find something better to do under that bridge of yours, troll.
please do not feed the trolls. OP since you are strict and follow everything to the letter...why is this even in Development when it has nothing to do with actually developing anything....just more of a General Question....which infact should be posted in the...ionno...General section?
Please post questions in General section.
Can anyone give me a detailed answer as to why the HDMI threads are getting closed? I would like to stay informed of the progress and share my experiences with the dev... isn't that why we all come to XDA?
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My guess is because they often turn into arguments of "so-and-so stole code from so-and-so."
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My guess is because they often turn into arguments of "so-and-so stole code from so-and-so."
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This and people report them. I've reported two myself because if I want to watch drama, I'd turn on Jerry Springer or Maury. I come here to learn, see what's new with Android developements, get updates on CM7, MIUI, and the like, and maybe even contribute here and there.
If the HMDI threads can keep out the "Down with Teamwin" and "Orrebmas is two-faced" crap, and maintain meaningful dialog, then the threads will live a nice long life...we'll see what happens to this one.
The XDA drama queen is in the house! Now where were we?
lol j/k
As long as no one pokes me with a stick again, I'm done with it.
These guys are right, it just turns into a feud between teamwin supporters and the ooremmbas(however you spell it) supporters. That guy and team win have achieved awesome things lets just accept the greatness and enjoy our evos. Who cares, ooreammbas gave us hdmi, teamwin gave us 4g the 2 single most important things on our evo. I support them all man.
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I don't understand all the drama either. People just need to shut up and enjoy the awesome work that these devs do. Orrebmas has a thread over on Android Central that seems to be staying civil and on topic.
http://forum.androidcentral.com/htc...dmi-official-fullhdmi-beta-discussion-24.html
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I don't understand all the drama either. People just need to shut up and enjoy the awesome work that these devs do. Orrebmas has a thread over on Android Central that seems to be staying civil and on topic.
http://forum.androidcentral.com/htc...dmi-official-fullhdmi-beta-discussion-24.html
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what about the teamwin does anybody know where to get some info on it? about the progress with HDMI?
I would love to follow bough
There was one thread last night saying people who donated would get a "pro version" of the beta. After seeing that I'm not surprised they got shut down.
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Can anyone give me a detailed answer as to why the HDMI threads are getting closed? I would like to stay informed of the progress and share my experiences with the dev... isn't that why we all come to XDA?
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[GPL- Violation] Full HDMI Mirroring(Released)--(NEW UPDATED APP) claims GPL violations. My question to the admins is this. Is the beta apk posted in violation of GPL or the modified kernels or both? If it was the kernel then all that had to be done was have the posted kernels removed. If it was the apk. then there are a hell of a lot of threads that need to be closed on this site.
My personal opinion with regards to this is, the rules are black and white so follow them and enforce them AT ALL TIMES. If there is any confusion/requests (in this case there's a whole lot) as to what the violation is, cite examples of the offending file or post. If no example is given then is looks like typical political BS. As far as "who stole code from whom", post code or GTFO.
To all devs. If you claim to be working on something post links to, or examples of progress or don't post. When you don't show examples it makes the thread/post look like vaporware or BS.
To members. Posting nothing more than "cool" or some of useless drivel makes no sense in a dev thread. If you like then there's a "thanks" button, use it and move on. Dev threads are for test results, bug reports and feature requests. If you want to chat about something in the dev thread there's a "General" forum just a click away. If a general discussion thread is started then request that the OP post a link to it in the first post.
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what about the teamwin does anybody know where to get some info on it? about the progress with HDMI?
I would love to follow bough
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follow shinzul on twitter for updates, he just posted another video yesterday!
http://twitter.com/#!/Shinzul
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There was one thread last night saying people who donated would get a "pro version" of the beta. After seeing that I'm not surprised they got shut down.
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I believe you misunderstood that post. What he meant was that people who already donated would not have to pay for the final release of the app; not the beta. The beta that is out now is the same whether you have donated or not and is available to anyone.
@Lokifish: It is the SBC HDMI kernel that is in violation of GPL. There is a stock HTC kernel where the only change are the HDMI drivers that were added to it which is not in violation of anything. The app is not in violation of anything, either. A member of this site posted the kernel here after orrebmas had removed the link to it voluntarily to not be in violation of any GPL rules.
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follow shinzul on twitter for updates, he just posted another video yesterday!
http://twitter.com/#!/Shinzul
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thanks man i just started following
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@Lokifish: It is the SBC HDMI kernel that is in violation of GPL. There is a stock HTC kernel where the only change are the HDMI drivers that were added to it which is not in violation of anything. The app is not in violation of anything, either. A member of this site posted the kernel here after orrebmas had removed the link to it voluntarily to not be in violation of any GPL rules.
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That's my thought as well, but instead of closing the thread and deleting everything all it would have taken is the removal of one file to be in compliance. It's akin to formatting a HDD because you find one wallpaper offensive, very childish IMHO.
Off topic but related. TW's development is very tight lipped and from the two vids I've seen I've already found flaws, this doesn't benefit development.
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That's my thought as well, but instead of closing the thread and deleting everything all it would have taken is the removal of one file to be in compliance. It's akin to formatting a HDD because you find one wallpaper offensive, very childish IMHO.
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I think that due to the drama that has been circling around anything related to Evo HDMI lately, there is little to no tolerance from the mods for anything that doesn't 100% follow the rules. I myself am partly to blame, because I have been beyond outspoken with my opinions. However, I'm ready to let it go and hopefully the other protagonists to this soap opera are, too.
Maybe someone can start a new thread and it can be kept clean. I'm not going to do it seeing as I am probably not the most popular person on the XDA Evo forum right now, but I think someone should.
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That's my thought as well, but instead of closing the thread and deleting everything all it would have taken is the removal of one file to be in compliance. It's akin to formatting a HDD because you find one wallpaper offensive, very childish IMHO.
Off topic but related. TW's development is very tight lipped and from the two vids I've seen I've already found flaws, this doesn't benefit development.
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+1
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Is this one next?
You have been EVOfied.
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@Lokifish: It is the SBC HDMI kernel that is in violation of GPL. There is a stock HTC kernel where the only change are the HDMI drivers that were added to it which is not in violation of anything. The app is not in violation of anything, either. A member of this site posted the kernel here after orrebmas had removed the link to it voluntarily to not be in violation of any GPL rules.
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Him not releasing the kernel source changes makes it a GPL violation regardless.
Gotta pay to play, be a true citizen and report the denizens of the internet for GPL violations!
ooremmbas's project is not open sourced ... and he fully intends to release it as a payed product. He's made no mystery about that. Even if it's not in literal violation of a certain rule ... it's certainly against the spirit of XDA, so I couldn't care less if it gets shutdown.
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ooremmbas's project is not open sourced ... and he fully intends to release it as a payed product. He's made no mystery about that. Even if it's not in literal violation of a certain rule ... it's certainly against the spirit of XDA, so I couldn't care less if it gets shutdown.
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The gpl is more than just a rule made up by xda, it is a legal agreement you agree to in order to use the linux kernel.
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Him not releasing the kernel source changes makes it a GPL violation regardless.
Gotta pay to play, be a true citizen and report the denizens of the internet for GPL violations!
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If that's the case then there are a lot of threads on XDA that need to be deleted. Actually lets follow precedence and just lock and delete the whole site. This whole thing goes deeper than just his work, it's the "pick and choose" application of forum rules and GPL.
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ooremmbas's project is not open sourced ... and he fully intends to release it as a payed product. He's made no mystery about that. Even if it's not in literal violation of a certain rule ... it's certainly against the spirit of XDA, so I couldn't care less if it gets shutdown.
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What are your options then? Are you going to support a closed development project just because you'll get the app for free? From what little I've seen of the alternative it's already flawed but find me the thread where it's discussed so I can voice this. You can't.
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Since a lot of people don't seem to know that JT1134 has released a version of Android 4 ICS on RootzWiki (since he didn't create a thread here) I figured I'd create one with a link and try to keep it updated when a new version comes out.
This is daily driver quality already. Only issues are: Outbound MMS is non-functional, Video recording is non-functional.
Go here:
jt1134 refuses to post his work on XDA due to a long-running dispute over the flaming that goes on here (ironically his ICS thread over on Rootzwiki is full of what chopper the dog calls "noobsause"). In any case, if he refuses to post his work here, how do you think he'd feel about someone else doing so? I don't mean any harm, because I'm sure you didn't know about this and you're just trying to be helpful, but in the future, you'll profit from asking the dev first if he'll let you post his work here.
Has anyone seen John Connor?
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jt1134 refuses to post his work on XDA due to a long-running dispute over the flaming that goes on here (ironically his ICS thread over on Rootzwiki is full of what chopper the dog calls "noobsause"). In any ca se, if he refuses to post his work here, how do you think he'd feel about someone else doing so? I don't mean any harm, because I'm sure you didn't know about this and you're just trying to be helpful, but in the future, you'll profit from asking the dev first if he'll let you post his work here.
Has anyone seen John Connor?
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I agree if JT wanted this posted here he would have posted it. He posts comments here still, but does not post his work here any longer. Most people know how to find his work. I suggest you delete this post.
***ATTENTION*** Mods please erase this thread as it was posted without the developers permission.
Meh
Lmao u guys take this stuff too serious. its all public
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edit* just noticed its just a link after reading gizmo posts. Thats not really a big deal, but I agree it should be posted in the general section.
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Lmao u guys take this stuff too serious. its all public
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It's so public, it was posted on a private forum and not publicly!
I really despise people like you and that djk halfwit over on Rootzwiki. You think because a developer shares his work that it's all fair game and no big whoop and people are too serious.
I would sincerely like to see you try picking up the code and doing something for the phone, having it leaked without your permission, and then still say it's all good.
You must be a child, otherwise you wouldn't be so insolent.
Is rootzwiki a private forum?
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Anyone else notice how ICS has created Flaming Zombies.
No matter what the thread or site is, it always becomes a problem.
I think Google put something in the ice cream
Are you guys seriously trying to force jt1134 into doing IRC only releases???
HINT: STOP TRYING TO PISS OFF THE FASCINATES BEST DEV!!!!
I'm a fan of Jt's, but guys... its a link. No one should be upset over a link.
Heck, it's not even a direct link. It's just a link to Jt's thread.
It's common practice in the Android community (and all other communities) for people to post links to other forums.
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I'm a fan of Jt's, but guys... its a link. No one should be upset over a link.
Heck, it's not even a direct link. It's just a link to Jt's thread.
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Agreed...regardless info posts belong in general iirc
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It's just a link to Jt's thread.
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We have a thread in General on this, already, do we not?
But still JT doesnt post his work here and has expressed that he doesnt want his stuff here. Its just simple respect, isnt that practiced in the android community?
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We have a thread in General on this, already, do we not?
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I never venture into General land, so I honestly would have no idea. That place... is scary.
I can agree with you that it should be in General.
So let's get angry about the section it's in instead.
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But still JT doesnt post his work here and has expressed that he doesnt want his stuff here. Its just simple respect, isnt that practiced in the android community?
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The OP didn't post Jt's work. He posted a link to Jt's thread. Big difference.
Come on everyone. No need to be fighting with one another over a link to a thread at another site. Nitsuj and Gizmo are right. Gfosco didn't post a download link for the ROM. What gfosco did is no different than someone asking "hey I heard jt made an ics rom for the fascinate but I don't see it here" and gfosco replied, "It's over at rootzwiki." There may be fascinate users who do not stray away from XDA much and gfosco is simply doing the community a service by making everyone aware of the ROM and where to find it. Thumbs up gfosco (just remember, the link isn't ROM development so this thread should have gone in general )
Not be repetitive or continue this BS thread, but there already *is* a thread in General for jt's ICS...
It's more like someone asking "where's jt's thread" in a completely unrelated *dev* thread when it's already been answered after a dozen other folks made the same request in that same *dev* thread.
Some folks may be a tad over-reactive, but considering what we've already lost at XDA, isn't that *more* forgivable than the folks behind the very reason we've lost so much???
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Come on everyone. No need to be fighting with one another over a link to a thread at another site. Nitsuj and Gizmo are right. Gfosco didn't post a download link for the ROM. What gfosco did is no different than someone asking "hey I heard jt made an ics rom for the fascinate but I don't see it here" and gfosco replied, "It's over at rootzwiki." There may be fascinate users who do not stray away from XDA much and gfosco is simply doing the community a service by making everyone aware of the ROM and where to find it. Thumbs up gfosco (just remember, the link isn't ROM development so this thread should have gone in general )
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seriously theres WAY better threads to flame!! ill link them:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1375195
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1324771
these are much more fun to flame.
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But still JT doesnt post his work here and has expressed that he doesnt want his stuff here. Its just simple respect, isnt that practiced in the android community?
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This is EXACTLY the point.
Meh
gunnermike said:
seriously theres WAY better threads to flame!! ill link them:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1375195
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1324771
these are much more fun to flame.
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Looks like some of us are in withdrawal now that there's only one Enyo thread to pounce on for lulz... Mods closing that thread (and probably this one too) in 3... 2...
Has anyone seen John Connor?
Just read that the CM team is integrating this in to CM9, it looks amazing!!
How hard would it be for someone more knowledgeable than me to integrate it in to a ROM for our Tablets? It's open source so I don't know if it's as simple as just compiling and installing, or if you would have to compile a ROM from the google AOSP after adding it?
http://www.onskreen.com/cornerstone/
Thoughts?
bumpity bump
I wish I had of thought of that. Why not, Google should think about integrating this as well.
Awesome idea.. would put Ios off the grid of usable tablet
very interesting .
I so would love something like this on our tablet .Thanks for the Link .I am not a developer in any way. But I did send them a email asking for more information.Maybe we can get a Developer to spark some interest when we get ics.. As of for now stuck waiting for a major update.. nothing will be seriously developed for our tablet..
This could put android Way over the top...
Thanks for the link and very Useful thread..
has anyone seen this running on a true device not just emulation?
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It's working on the Samsung 10.1...
While this looks cool as hell, I m wondering if tegra 2 could pull this off
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BrianDigital said:
While this looks cool as hell, I m wondering if tegra 2 could pull this off
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Shouldn't be an issue with Ics which the maker of CS built it around and a galaxy tab i believe which is tegra 2
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On topic or GTFO.....
Aaron Camp said:
In your haste you accidentally removed this valid link to active development on cornerstone.
Hopefully others can avoid name calling etc so that this thread doesn't get moded again.
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And in your haste, you linked to a forum we're not allowed to link to on the XDA forums, due to GPL violations. Well done.
I should not post this here..
But i had to. i went to cornerstone website and read there requirements to use there software.. THEY STRICTLY SAY ANYONE WHO IS GPL CAN USE IT.
I asked them to visit this xda banned site.
enough said..
Can someone give me a brief run down of this situation?
Just for the record, if this site requires registration for downloads then it should not be linked to. If not it's fine as long as no non gpl compliant works are linked to.
Also, roms are not subject to the gpl only kernels are.
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erica_renee said:
I should not post this here..
But i had to. i went to cornerstone website and read there requirements to use there software.. THEY STRICTLY SAY ANYONE WHO IS GPL CAN USE IT.
I asked them to visit this xda banned site.
enough said..
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Get a life! Enough said!
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conantroutman said:
Can someone give me a brief run down of this situation?
Just for the record, if this site requires registration for downloads then it should not be linked to. If not it's fine as long as no non gpl compliant works are linked to.
Also, roms are not subject to the gpl only kernels are.
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I don't know why that was linked?
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what is the issue with the site?
And what is the issue with this thor guys ics build?
I'd research it myself but I'm at work right now and mobile only...
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Are you guys totally blind that you've managed to miss the DOZENS of times this has been explained in these forums!?!?
Basically, Thor refuses to release is kernel source code as required under the GPL license. Because of this, his ROMs, which have his kernel integrated, are not allowed on XDA, nor are links to his site.
He's done this because some people took his code, made cosmetic changes, then released it as their own without giving him credit. Instead of dealing with it maturely and getting those people dealt with by the mods, he decided to throw his toys out of his pram in a toddlers tantrum and withdrew his sources. Legally, he has no right to do this because, no matter what changes he has made, it is NOT his source code and never was.
Note, the above applies to his kernel only, but as he ships his kernel inside his ROMs, his ROM's are included in the ban along with his kernels.
It's a damn shame because he's a pretty good developer, but XDA have to protect themselves from possibly GPL violations, so out goes his code.
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erica_renee said:
I should not post this here..
But i had to. i went to cornerstone website and read there requirements to use there software.. THEY STRICTLY SAY ANYONE WHO IS GPL CAN USE IT.
I asked them to visit this xda banned site.
enough said..
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*sigh* Erica... Really.. That doesn't help things at all...
FloatingFatMan said:
Are you guys totally blind that you've managed to miss the DOZENS of times this has been explained in these forums!?!?
Basically, Thor refuses to release is kernel source code as required under the GPL license. Because of this, his ROMs, which have his kernel integrated, are not allowed on XDA, nor are links to his site.
He's done this because some people took his code, made cosmetic changes, then released it as their own without giving him credit. Instead of dealing with it maturely and getting those people dealt with by the mods, he decided to throw his toys out of his pram in a toddlers tantrum and withdrew his sources. Legally, he has no right to do this because, no matter what changes he has made, it is NOT his source code and never was.
Note, the above applies to his kernel only, but as he ships his kernel inside his ROMs, his ROM's are included in the ban along with his kernels.
It's a damn shame because he's a pretty good developer, but XDA have to protect themselves from possibly GPL violations, so out goes his code.
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*sigh* Erica... Really.. That doesn't help things at all...
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I'm assuming this is directed at me.....
Blind? No.....
I, just don't monitor every forum every waking hour of the day. For that I can only apologise.
As for the kernel, yeah your right, it has no place here under those circumstances.
It does not stop anyone linking to that site though, providing the other criteria are met.
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conantroutman said:
I'm assuming this is directed at me.....
Blind? No.....
I, just don't monitor every forum every waking hour of the day. For that I can only apologise.
As for the kernel, yeah your right, it has no place here under those circumstances.
It does not stop anyone linking to that site though, providing the other criteria are met.
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Which they're not, as like most forums, you have to register to see download links.
conantroutman said:
I'm assuming this is directed at me.....
Blind? No.....
I, just don't monitor every forum every waking hour of the day. For that I can only apologise.
As for the kernel, yeah your right, it has no place here under those circumstances.
It does not stop anyone linking to that site though, providing the other criteria are met.
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Assuming they linked to the Thor's dev thread there for ICS, it falls under the criteria of registering for downloads.
By the way, can we PLEASE make it clear to other users the importance of GPL compliance on XDA? I'm getting sick of others and myself getting called jealous haters for explaining basic forum rules. I'm just as bothered we're out a good dev as others but it isn't anyone's fault but Thor. And I'm not the only one who sees this. I've talked to other users and they're just as shocked by what goes on in here.
Edit: And Aaron if you have ever been into the development subforum maybe you'd have seen the sticky of the rule I have been citing about GPL compliance. You know, the ONLY rule I ever bring up on this subject. Is this the one I'm "making up"?
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Which they're not, as like most forums, you have to register to see download links.
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Cheers.
That's that then. No more links to that forum.
And no more childish name calling, no matter how thinly veiled it is....
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.. LOL! I just realised I asked a senior mod if he was blind! Bloody XDA mobile app!
Actually, I'm kinda glad to see you in here... We've been pretty modless for ages and tbh, it's gotten ridiculous. I know we have mods that drop in sometimes, but really, we need someone checking things daily. I'd offer myself but I'm not exactly innocent of losing patience with some people...