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flashing prep questions

Ok, so I'm currently using bionix 1.9 with stock kernel. I really want to flash bionix fusion with kingxklicks kernel, from what here this is a great rom.
My question, is there anything I should know about flashing this i.e. going back to stock rom? Is there anything I need to do before flashing this?
If I decide to go back to stock rom can I just flash with odin? Do I have to flash stock kernel before flashing back to a stock rom?
Can anyone just let me know, I would like to be prepared in case anything does go wrong.

Nope, you should be safe to flash directly over your current rom. As a precaution, if you have Ryanza's OCLF, you might consider undoing the lag fix... not saying it is needed but more often than not, most people who have a problem start off with saying " Help, I just tried flashing (xyz rom) and now I am stuck at the bootscreen. I had (abc rom) and OCLF before... what could be wrong?" Any other questions be sure to consult the red text in my sig.

Ok cool, even then I have been stuck on the boot screen a couple of time. Odin fixed that problem.
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Other than making a nandroid backup and maybe a titanium backup, you should be good to go ...
Fusion 1.1 is a wipe ROM so may want to backup your apps ....

Easier of flashing.

So i have probably flashed my phone around twenty times, and each time something goes wrong or doesnt work, i have to use Odin and flash back to stock, do the JI6 update, install OCLF, root it, flash clockwork recovery, then try and flash another rom.
My concern is that it takes forever to do his process everytime. Is there an easier way to do this? Do you need to have JI6 before flashing a 2. 2 rom? Do you need root to install a custom rom? Or can you just copy over clockworm recovery to sd? Any info will help, thanks.
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I've flashed my phone with every rom I could find. I was using ClockworkMod Recovery to do my flashing and never had a problem. but if you flash a 2.2 rom.... you can't go back to 2.1
Unless you open Odin and have your phone set to Download mode.
Use these files and click START
PIT- s1_odin_20100512.pit
PDA- T959-PDA
PHONE- T959UVJFD
Then your phone will be rolled back to 2.1 update1 STOCK.
I had to use this 4 times. It works.
**If you have a Nandroid Backup of a rom running 2.1 You can't use that to roll back**
YOU WILL BRICK IT UP!

Annex1 said:
I've flashed my phone with every rom I could find. I was using ClockworkMod Recovery to do my flashing and never had a problem. but if you flash a 2.2 rom.... you can't go back to 2.1
Unless you open Odin and have your phone set to Download mode.
Use these files and click START
PIT- s1_odin_20100512.pit
PDA- T959-PDA
PHONE- T959UVJFD
Then your phone will be rolled back to 2.1 update1 STOCK.
I had to use this 4 times. It works.
**If you have a Nandroid Backup of a rom running 2.1 You can't use that to roll back**
YOU WILL BRICK IT UP!
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What if that rom includes a kernel?
Constantly Drinking

jzero88 said:
So i have probably flashed my phone around twenty times, and each time something goes wrong or doesnt work, i have to use Odin and flash back to stock, do the JI6 update, install OCLF, root it, flash clockwork recovery, then try and flash another rom.
My concern is that it takes forever to do his process everytime. Is there an easier way to do this? Do you need to have JI6 before flashing a 2. 2 rom? Do you need root to install a custom rom? Or can you just copy over clockworm recovery to sd? Any info will help, thanks.
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Who's the stupid person who told you to flash JI6 first to go to 2.2?

jzero88 said:
So i have probably flashed my phone around twenty times, and each time something goes wrong or doesnt work, i have to use Odin and flash back to stock, do the JI6 update, install OCLF, root it, flash clockwork recovery, then try and flash another rom.
My concern is that it takes forever to do his process everytime. Is there an easier way to do this? Do you need to have JI6 before flashing a 2. 2 rom? Do you need root to install a custom rom? Or can you just copy over clockworm recovery to sd? Any info will help, thanks.
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yeah ...

I have no clue how you could be having this much trouble... are you following the guides?

First off you don't need to wait for the ji6 / flash the ji6 update to get to froyo. 2nd, why are you bothering with the lag fix before getting on the rom you want to run daily? Try to keep your flashes clean. By this I mean once you're odin'd back to stock, just flash 2.2, so there's no weird mods messing things up for you. If you're finding things wrong every time you have to eliminate as many variables as you can that could potentially cause something to go wrong. If you flash straight from stock, you're only variables will be within the 2.2 ROM you're flashing. Hope this helps. It's definitely worth it to get on one of the froyo roms in these forums, I recommend Axura, no problems at all and there's an even newer release than I'm running so it might be even better.

I did a backup with 2.1 update1 stock. Then flashed to 2.2 Obsidian V4.
That's my first flash and I only got the phone for two weeks. So apparently
I was still in learning mode. I did not backup my contacts as I thought
I could easily go back to 2.1 just as if having a dual bootable linux box.
However, after restoring to 2.1, the phone did not boot. It appears that I
have to use ODIN to bring it back. But my concern is I will lose my contacts
once 2.1 is back. So my questions are:
1. if I use odin, will I lose my contacts?
2. is there any other way to let the phone boot?
3. Not sure if my case falls into the category that flash to 2.2 then cannot
go back to 2.1 unless odin is used.
Sorry for asking so many questions.
Many thanks in advance.
Annex1 said:
I've flashed my phone with every rom I could find. I was using ClockworkMod Recovery to do my flashing and never had a problem. but if you flash a 2.2 rom.... you can't go back to 2.1
Unless you open Odin and have your phone set to Download mode.
Use these files and click START
PIT- s1_odin_20100512.pit
PDA- T959-PDA
PHONE- T959UVJFD
Then your phone will be rolled back to 2.1 update1 STOCK.
I had to use this 4 times. It works.
**If you have a Nandroid Backup of a rom running 2.1 You can't use that to roll back**
YOU WILL BRICK IT UP!
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Ok i'm confused on how you will lose contacts.
When you add contacts to your phone are you choosing "google" as the place to add it? If you choose "phone" then you will lose contacts as data is wiped.
But always choose "google", then all of your contacts will be synced and stored to googles servers. Then once you add your google account after you flash your rom all of your contacts will be synced right back to your phone..... this is what I do and I always have my contacts no matter what

install check list
OCLF (Root only)
Rom Manager (clockwork recovery + Rom Installer)
thats all you need really for quick installs.
I did my first rom install about a week ago, since then i've flashed 4 different ones, havent had any issues. i tend to stick to installs that can be installed via clock work, Used odin 1 time that was because OTA JI6 broke me.
Obsidian V4 is unstable and was pulled from the public download page for revisions try V3 or Onyx R3.1
as for contacts, you don't have them synced Via gmail or atleast backed up on your sim?

Just so everyone knows there is a stock 2.2 for use with ODIN. No need to go back to stock 2.1 then up to 2.2 again. The 2.2 for ODIN is pre-rooted. I have done this twice now with no problems. Haven't needed One Click Root/Unroot since we got 2.2

It might be a little late to know this. But to be honest, I do not really buy into
the concept of putting everything in google's hand. That's why I chose to
save in the phone other than google.
I thought that by backing up the current ROM (2.1 update1 in my case),
I should be able to restore back to it whenever I want to.
Am I doomed? Really hate to shoot everybody an email asking for their
numbers. And worse, some of them don't have email since they are old
eminembdg said:
Ok i'm confused on how you will lose contacts.
When you add contacts to your phone are you choosing "google" as the place to add it? If you choose "phone" then you will lose contacts as data is wiped.
But always choose "google", then all of your contacts will be synced and stored to googles servers. Then once you add your google account after you flash your rom all of your contacts will be synced right back to your phone..... this is what I do and I always have my contacts no matter what
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so far obsidian v4 has not given me any trouble, but I will give V3 a try later
to make sure I have at least one stable version.
As for contacts, I did not take it too seriously when I flashed to 2.2.
But now I realize it's a lot hassle to get all numbers back if I can remember
who are on my list.
Is there any hope to save my a**?
boystuff said:
install check list
OCLF (Root only)
Rom Manager (clockwork recovery + Rom Installer)
thats all you need really for quick installs.
I did my first rom install about a week ago, since then i've flashed 4 different ones, havent had any issues. i tend to stick to installs that can be installed via clock work, Used odin 1 time that was because OTA JI6 broke me.
Obsidian V4 is unstable and was pulled from the public download page for revisions try V3 or Onyx R3.1
as for contacts, you don't have them synced Via gmail or atleast backed up on your sim?
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Thanks for all the replies but to be clear all my custom flashed roms flash successfully. Nothing wrong with flashing, just doing advanced stuff like testing eugenes kernels with other roms. If something goes wrong then i have to start over. I was just wondering if we can go from stock to 2. 2 which i know now we can. Do you need root to do this or can you just copy the update. Zip of the clockwork recovery to sd and get into it from stock recovery to flash the new rom
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Ive been using gmail as my contacts backup since 06 when it was beta invite only. Synced via active sync on my windows mobile 5,6 and 6.5 phones with ease its just always made more sense then outlook or sim cards since i could access it anywhere i had internet.
Give it a shot doesnt hurt to always have atleast 1 backup
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Help needed: New User

I just bought my Epic 4G a few days ago and quickly discovered the existence of rooting and custom ROMS. Needless to say I took the plunge the other day.
I attempted to install the Epic Experience Froyo yesterday but it doesn't seem to load up properly.
Seemed simple enough. I boot into clockwork, I cleared data/factory cache, cache partition, and davnik cache three times each. I installed the ROM from my SD card, install says it's successful, so I hit the reboot.
After this I expect my new rom to load up but all that happens is the samsung logo comes up for about a minute, phone reboots again and goes into the factory Android system recovery utility.
Any ideas? Please help, my phone is inoperable at the moment.
-Dennis

Sounds like kernel. Dl a costume kernel and flash it thru cwm.
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I'll have to apologize ahead of time because I'm completely new to rooting.
Which kernel should I use (a link to one with instructions would be helpful), and how do I get it on my SD card if it isn't booting up? (my pc doesn't have an SD card reader)

Did you first use odin to install the DK17 modem and kernel through odin? That might be the step youmissed because if you just flashed straight from stock 2.1 to epic experience you need the updated froyo modem and kernel. Check here if you're still confused.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=853209

So, flash Odin/DK17 and then flash Epic Experience over this?

Ya also did you first do the one click root method to make sure you are definitely rooted? If you press. Volume down + camera button + power when booting and the letters are blue you are NOT rooted. If they are green then you are rooted. Sometimes when you install a rom it might take away your root so you might try doing it in the order of this:
1. Flash back to stock 2.1
2. Do theone click root method
3. Flash DK17 modem through odin
4. Install Epic Exprience

hgvidal said:
Did you first use odin to install the DK17 modem and kernel through odin? That might be the step youmissed because if you just flashed straight from stock 2.1 to epic experience you need the updated froyo modem and kernel. Check here if you're still confused.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=853209
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I went straight from 2.1 to 2.2 firmware without using odin or anything of the sort. Will I notice a difference? If so what difference will it make and can I just install DK17 modem and kernel or do I have to revert back to 2.1 first?

idontwanttostudy said:
I went straight from 2.1 to 2.2 firmware without using odin or anything of the sort. Will I notice a difference? If so what difference will it make and can I just install DK17 modem and kernel or do I have to revert back to 2.1 first?
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Hm that is interesting. When i first made the mistake of going from to a 2.2 rom without upgrading the modem my cell & data service wouldn't work. It kept looping on and off and would not stick. Maybe it depends what rom you went to as maybe some require the modem as mandatory and others do not? I am not sure. But if its working for you, you should just be able to flash the DK17 through odin without going back to 2.1.

hgvidal said:
Hm that is interesting. When i first made the mistake of going from to a 2.2 rom without upgrading the modem my cell & data service wouldn't work. It kept looping on and off and would not stick. Maybe it depends what rom you went to as maybe some require the modem as mandatory and others do not? I am not sure. But if its working for you, you should just be able to flash the DK17 through odin without going back to 2.1.
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I just did it today with the newest froyo version out by chance would it come with them? If not where can i get them? I cant seem to find the modem to dl

How can i tell by looking in my phone if i have it or not?

idontwanttostudy said:
How can i tell by looking in my phone if i have it or not?
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Go to settings -> about phone and then check where it says "Baseband version" it should say DK17 in there. If it doesnt follow these instructions to download the files you need. It has step by step directions
http://www.nomie.mobi/how-to-install-dk17-modem-samsung-epic/

I assume this is the rom you flashed:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=856715
In the first post it has a link to the instructions to properly flash the rom. You can use those instructions to flash the modem and see if it fixes your problem. You might be better off just flashing everything again. It would mean downloading odin and the files to your pc and flashing them to your phone from your pc. The simplest way to do this is follow this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=853209
Follow the instructions carefully and when your done you have the new modem, the froyo rom, clockwork recovery, and be rooted.

I was at the site earlier but when i click the dl link it takes me to some wordpress and tells me registration is currently not allowed then asks for a username and password
@Raylusk can i do this method even if i am running the 2.2 firmware? Or would i have to revert back to the original is so how do i do it?

idontwanttostudy said:
I was at the site earlier but when i click the dl link it takes me to some wordpress and tells me registration is currently not allowed then asks for a username and password
@Raylusk can i do this method even if i am running the 2.2 firmware? Or would i have to revert back to the original is so how do i do it?
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You can do it running 2.2. This will wipe your phone and install the new system.
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raylusk said:
You can do it running 2.2. This will wipe your phone and install the new system.
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Ok I finally have it all worked out thanks a lot!

hgvidal said:
1. Flash back to stock 2.1 [through odin]
3. Flash DK17 modem through odin
4. Install Epic Exprience
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I actually skipped step 2 and everything went fine for me. My laptop was being an asshole and not seeing the phone, so the 1 click root script simply wasn't working.. but then I realized that the DK17 flash via Odin that I got form the epic experience thread included clockworkmod and was pre-rooted and everything so I saw that step as unnecessary.

[Q] Few questions about custom Epic ROMs

i have the HTC EVO and have been running Flipz FreshROM since he first put out his custom EVO ROM and even used his HERO ROMs before that. my wife has an Epic now, which i rooted back in October. she's currently running the last official update from Samsung (DI18, i believe) and i wanted to update her to the latest release (DK28).
what are the best custom ROMs to use that are based off of the DK28 update?
is it best just to update to DK28, then root and not worry about a custom ROM?
in order to update to DK28, do i have to unroot first or is there an already unrooted DK28 ROM that i could flash?
thanks for the help.

Sturmie said:
i have the HTC EVO and have been running Flipz FreshROM since he first put out his custom EVO ROM and even used his HERO ROMs before that. my wife has an Epic now, which i rooted back in October. she's currently running the last official update from Samsung (DI18, i believe) and i wanted to update her to the latest release (DK28).
what are the best custom ROMs to use that are based off of the DK28 update?
is it best just to update to DK28, then root and not worry about a custom ROM?
in order to update to DK28, do i have to unroot first or is there an already unrooted DK28 ROM that i could flash?
thanks for the help.
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In my opinion, different people will have different opinions regarding which ROM is the "best". User experience can vary from person to person. What may not be an issue to one person may be a deal breaker for another.
I would recommend trying each until you find one that meets your needs. To update to DK28, I would recommend following this guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=853209
Couldnt be easier. If you find that you have issues with DK28, use ODIN to get back to 2.1 and then reroot. The process is simple and easy to find if you search. Personally, the second time I tired DK28, I used ODIN to go back to stock 2.1, then used the link above to go to DK28. I would also recommend giving your phone a few days to adjust to 2.2. This helped some of my issues work themselves out.

Use odin to flash the dk28 modem first. I can't post links yet but look in the ViperRom thread for a good zip of Odin with the dk28 modem and the correct Pit file. Unzip everything, untar the modem.tar. Turn off your phone. Boot while holding the 1 key down (you get a Yellow Icon in the middle of the screen). Run Odin, Place the modem.bin file in the PHONE slot in odin, put the .PIT file in the PIT slot in odin. Plug the phone into the computer. Odin will see your phone as a COM# port, any number is fine. Auto-Reboot and F.Reset Time should be the ONLY things checkmarked in options. Click start.
Its complicated but it works pretty good. The phone will restart and run with the DI18 and the DK28 modem. Get a GPS Lock in Navigation or Google Maps on the phone, make sure it locks! Skipping this step has led to some people not being able to get locks with the internal gps on epics with dk28.
Apply the oneclick root found in the forums (Android Developement).
Pick a rom, i think Bonsai 1.04 is very stable and pretty with its elegant font.. not so strongly masculine like some of the custom roms. Download the rom and put it on the sdcard, boot into clockwork (volume down, camera and the power button simultaneously) and wipe / factory reset, wipe cache, wipe dalvik cache. Flash the rom...zip off the sdcard and then reboot.
Yes you can flash directly dk28 with modem using ODIN.. I tried the OTA zip on a stock DI18 and couldn't get that to work for me. But when I went direct to dk28 from di18 i lost gps.
Anyway, just my story, and what I did. I love my custom rom, but it took me hours to figure it out. I hope these instructions are complete and errorfree, but it would be a good idea to read forum threads about this stuff besides just what I have to say. ViperROM's thread was especially helpful with the odin use stuff. There is a wiki about it too, but im not allowed to post links, oops.

I don't know if it was just me but I immediately jumped on the DK28 band wagon, and yes it was cool but for me it was somewhat unstable. My Wifi was borked, sometimes it'd go on perfect, other times I'd hit the widget in the pulldown, and it'd sit there green and do nothing. i'd have to go into the Settings -> Wifi and it'd say "Error". So like I said I don't know if it was just me cause everyone else here loves it. Anyway just thought I'd let you know!
Good luck!
Sincerely,
D3luSi0n4L

thanks for the responses...i really appreciate the info.
candypeart said:
Apply the oneclick root found in the forums (Android Developement).
Pick a rom, i think Bonsai 1.04 is very stable and pretty with its elegant font.. not so strongly masculine like some of the custom roms. Download the rom and put it on the sdcard, boot into clockwork (volume down, camera and the power button simultaneously) and wipe / factory reset, wipe cache, wipe dalvik cache. Flash the rom...zip off the sdcard and then reboot.
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if i'm wiping everything and flashing a custom DK28-based ROM, do i need to unroot, flash the stock DK28, re-root and then flash? or could i just wipe the current state of her Epic and flash the Bonsai ROM? i know with my EVO that i have to update the baseband/radio separately from the ROM, but whenever i want to update my EVO, i just wipe and re-flash the new ROM.

D3luSi0n4L said:
I don't know if it was just me but I immediately jumped on the DK28 band wagon, and yes it was cool but for me it was somewhat unstable. My Wifi was borked, sometimes it'd go on perfect, other times I'd hit the widget in the pulldown, and it'd sit there green and do nothing. i'd have to go into the Settings -> Wifi and it'd say "Error". So like I said I don't know if it was just me cause everyone else here loves it. Anyway just thought I'd let you know!
Good luck!
Sincerely,
D3luSi0n4L
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I was having voice problems myself... lots of distortion at high volumes. Went back to 2.1 and the problem is gone.

Sturmie said:
i have the HTC EVO and have been running Flipz FreshROM since he first put out his custom EVO ROM and even used his HERO ROMs before that. my wife has an Epic now, which i rooted back in October. she's currently running the last official update from Samsung (DI18, i believe) and i wanted to update her to the latest release (DK28).
what are the best custom ROMs to use that are based off of the DK28 update?
is it best just to update to DK28, then root and not worry about a custom ROM?
in order to update to DK28, do i have to unroot first or is there an already unrooted DK28 ROM that i could flash?
thanks for the help.
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Check out Quantum rom,with EXT4..Just did my wifes epic,no issues at all....BTW i run fresh 3.5, good rom....

I have a question about roms and the (eventual) update to official froyo...will those of us on DK28 need to flash back to use custom roms or will we be able to simply odin a new modem and install a new rom? Or better yet, not have to odin anything and just be able to flash in CWM.

[Q]Having issues getting back to stock rom from CM7.

Does anyone have a stock based flashable rom so that I can get back to touchwiz?
All the ones I've tried dont have the right update scripts and I'm not that good with those yet.

Unfortunately you will have to ODIN back to stock JFD. You will need to select repartition in odin also.

Odin is your friend. I've done it half a dozen times now. it's the way to go

And of course you'll have to use Eugene's Froyo That doesn't brick odin first then odin JFD then you'll be good to go. Something with the file system in CM makes it so you have to do all these steps to get back to stock and to be able to use Voodoo again well I had to do it...

just odin back to stock but im not sure if u check off re-partition?? when going back to stock from cm7?

AustinKnight45 said:
And of course you'll have to use Eugene's Froyo That doesn't brick odin first then odin JFD then you'll be good to go. Something with the file system in CM makes it so you have to do all these steps to get back to stock and to be able to use Voodoo again well I had to do it...
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I really don't think that you need to do this. All I did was odin the jfd with repartitions checked plus the pit file.
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Anyone that reads this thread in the future, just check the going back to stock link in my signature.
The reference to Eugene's ftdb is only needed in special circumstances.

You should be fine just using ODIN to go back to JFD. You will want to select repartition as well when coming from CM7. You wouldnt need to use the Froyo that does not brick in this circumstance. That would be used say for example if you forgot to disable Voodoo and flashed a non Voodoo ROM over it.