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Cyanogen 6.0. Is it way over rated?

Here is a question for everyone. It's not a trolling question, nor is it designed to provoke anger. As a faithfull user of cyanogen 6 since its inception (nightly updates, RC1, RC2, and Full) Lets boil this down.
Things that work:
1. Its fast as hell.
2. No sense (makes it fast as hell).
3. Highly customizable
4. ADW tweaks are nice.
5. Feel free to add something else in here.
6. Nice screen rotation for car mounting.
7. Oh ya....its fast as hell and, as has been posted in here a million times, "...is buttery smooth."
Things that still don't work at all or work well:
1. HDMI
2. 4G
3. Radio
4. MMS with picture or voice (tried it again yesterday)
5. Voicemail issues (we all know what they are)
So......essentially....except for some modest, user appreciable "non-sense" speed boosts....this ROM actually removes some pretty darn important features.
Explain the logic of this to me?
Cyanogen has done excellent work. I am not trying to squelch that, but he (and his team) seem to be unable to resolve issues EVO users should and do find important.
With the new sense roms out there and their subsequent kernal releases, they perform, user appreciably, nearly the same as this rom with all the above MAJOR FUNCTIONS working. (Linpak, FPS2d, and Quadrant scores for which I can reproduce screen shots)
So, you get a fast rom with few of exceptional functions / features this phone is capable of.
Do you think maybe....the rom is a crutch for the phone.
Just one man's humble opinion. Maybe further versions with the important features useable will kick butt. For now......Come on. What is the obsession?
Would someone please explain my confusion on this seemingly obvious question.
So....Ill keep it as a nandroid backup. For what? I don't know.
-JZ

Pro: Stagefright AAC decoding patch implemented in CM6
Con: Bluetooth prevents phone from sleeping

I agree.. seems ridiculous to me. I wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole.

I don't really want to get nit picky, but I agree with your points, and it's personally not the rom for me. At least not in its current state.

Didn't you post this in the CM6 thread?

all the features in cm6 currently PWN 4g and hdmi. for those that other are either fooling theirselves or havent really actually played with the rom
-i mean really, hdmi is nice, but you cant even use it to its full extent now...why waste the time? a saying that comes to mind "if you gonna do something, do it big" or "why halfass when you'll just have to come back and finish it up later"
sorry i just dont think a HALF working hdmi in sense or even stock roms for that matter are worth bragging about.
-4g is NICE, however its only ONE phone that has this option as of right now (excluding the samsung epic that just launched today). It makes NO sense at all to focus on a feature that is only exclusive to ONE phone...not to mention the code for 4g is intricately woven into Sense, so it takes some time to remove and code for it
-Radio? Seriously? It just seems like yer being a hater here.... I do realize having the FM radio is nice and all....but even in the stock roms you have to have gay ass headphones.
With all the pandora radio, stitcher radio and other podcast..... is it REALLY that big of a deal? i think not especially since i dont have to be on a leash with headphones and can play through my speaker
-NO other rom has a higher bitpool for bluetooth aka if you use a2dp to stream to your car's stereo...unless your using cm6.... your stream is gonna sound like ****!!! This is a BIGGGG feature
and whas the issue with MMS? the 160 char limit thing? I dont seem to suffer from that problem....maybe its a hit or miss?
as far as the voicemail...i dont use sprint's voicemail on this phone....i link it to my gvoice....but i can definitely understand the frustration not being able to get to your vmail.
i guess people like cm6 because it pwns and own all while not being a bloatware king and slowing **** down

ya....i wasn't sure where the "most appropriate" place to post it was. You know how folks won't answer your question/quandry, but rather say, "this isn't the appropriate place for this." So....pre-empting that I posted it in both places in case one gets deleted.

They do great work for other phones, but I think the EVO 4G was just to complex.

it pwns? with modest appreciable speed increases (seriously.....post some objective data for me....not subjective)?
4g, hdmi, (ill give you the radio), mms (not sending messages with photos or sound or both attached) are not little things. Also....if you have a decent HDMI set it will recognize the settings and accomodate....so come on. OBJECTIVE not SUBJECTIVE.
The sense roms have comprable linpak, quadrant, and BETTER fps2d scores.
Im not hating....just posting OBJECTIVE findings.

rubixmaster said:
They do great work for other phones, but I think the EVO 4G was just to complex.
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My thoughts exactly.

Nope.
HDMI? Why would I want that in a phone?
4G? I'm not in a 4g area.
Radio? Haha.. why? It never worked right for me anyway and my Zune gets better reception.
MMS - I sent my wife a picture just yesterday. No issues there.
VM - I use GV and always have. No issues.

jasonziter said:
it pwns? with modest speed increases (seriously.....post some objective data for me....not subjective)?
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Bro, I'm not going to do research for you. If you haven't already, flash CM6 final on your phone. If it doesn't fly compared to a Sense ROM, you are doing something wrong or you need to return your phone.

goodelyfe said:
and whas the issue with MMS? the 160 char limit thing? I dont seem to suffer from that problem....maybe its a hit or miss?
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That is SMS (aka texting) and the 160 character limit is the CDMA technology limit, has nothing to do with a ROM. MMS (aka picture/multimedia mail) is what he is referring to. But I'm not sure exactly what problems he's referring to, because I though MMS worked fine on my phone when I had CM on it.
You feel it is faster by far then other roms, that is your opinion, hard factual numbers do not necessarily agree with you. I didn't want to get into the nit picky, as I stated before, because honestly I respect CM for doing things I could never dream of doing. But your post reads as if a one sided defensive retort. Prove him wrong in his stance, saying it feels faster does not do so, because that is one of it's few claims to fame.
And yes, I've run multiple nightlies, and ran RC1, I did not care for any of them enough to keep me around long. I am waiting however for 6.1 and look forward to trying it out.

Thats it......too complex. I can't think of anything else. The argument that
1 there really isnt that much 4g out there
2 HDMI really doesnt work
3 who really sends pics / voice MMS anyhow.
4 are you really using your FM radio (no.....im not but thats not the point in the whole picture)
5 voicemail issues - just move to SOMTHING ELSE (gvoice etc)
These are poor agrguments. Post objective findings on why Cyanogen 6.0 for the EVO is such a better rom. Give me some FreakEvo vs Cyanogen quadrant photos (what ever kernal you like to use). Set cpu settings equal and EVO switch settings equal.
Post some photos. Show me why CM6 is better. Don't show me emotionally.....show me with objective data. Then.....ill understand the "non-sense" and stop my silly confusion. Thats my whole point with my silly quandry. I really DO like CM6...I just want the features my phone is capable of (which.....most of them I do use...) to work.

jasonziter said:
Thats it......too complex. I can't think of anything else. The argument that
1 there really isnt that much 4g out there
2 HDMI really doesnt work
3 who really sends pics / voice MMS anyhow.
4 are you really using your FM radio (no.....im not but thats not the point in the whole picture)
5 voicemail issues - just move to SOMTHING ELSE (gvoice etc)
These are poor agrguments. Post objective findings on why Cyanogen 6.0 for the EVO is such a better rom. Give me some FreakEvo vs Cyanogen quadrant photos (what ever kernal you like to use). Set cpu settings equal and EVO switch settings equal.
Post some photos. Show me why CM6 is better. Don't show me emotionally.....show me with objective data. Then.....ill understand the "non-sense" and stop my silly confusion. Thats my whole point with my silly quandry. I really DO like CM6...I just want the features my phone is capable of (which.....most of them I do use...) to work.
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You're asking him to do the testing to back up his point, when you're the one with the challenge?
BUT
I might have just found something I'm interested in and maybe I'll do the testing you're asking for today during my afternoon at work.
Fresh installed FreakEvo and Fresh CM 6.0 running the gambit.

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lol dude!!! lol 'dont show me emotionally'
it seems you and maybe another are the ones who are getting upset/emotional
lol
you ask us our opinions, then you 'attack' us for them.....and your rebuttal is back it up with objective data....
dude its not that serious.
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I understand your curiosity about what makes it measurably better, but I don't undestand what makes you think anyone would be motivated to win you over..
I love CM6 and am very happy to be running it on my phone, it's smooth and reliable and I'm happy with it. I could give a **** if you like it or decide to start using it.
If you don't see the value, and if you prefere a sense based rom then use a sense based rom. If you want to know the difference then flash them both and run your objective tests and share the results with the community. It would be interesting to know but I don't forsee anyone providing you with this data in an attempt to convince you to become a CM6 user.
You want some objective data? CM is powered by unicorns.. does it get any better than that?

Zergburger that is a mighty quadrant score indeed. What were you OC'ed to in that?

nebenezer said:
You want some objective data? CM is powered by unicorns.. does it get any better than that?
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^this^ lol

Sooooo did ANYONE get the update today? Post your results please.

Well I doubt it seeing as sprint said they are having a issue getting it to google for distribution..
So that is their way of saying, we are sorry but no update and we have no ETA of when we will get it out. They are just pointing the finger at google, the same crap they always try to do.. Its never their fault, just everyone elses.

See here ... you can update it manually if you wish and there are screenshots / results being posted there already.
Tgrable, many people are seeing the OTA update now.

I think this update may have very well fixed a problem with the radio trying to find signal on Sprint towers vs roaming. I usually have to use roam control at home, but after a FULL stock restore, and installing this update; It just stays on roaming.
Too early to tell all what is fixed/if battery life is better. But hopefully it helps. I'll check 3G upload when I get in town later.
Though oddly, it seems to have killed clockwork.
If you get the same result; just re-do Clockwork via noobnl's method; works fine. Getting ready to test a custom kernel to make sure it didn't break anything.
(UPDATE)
Flashing the mixup kernel worked just fine. No problems I can see so far; so it looks like we are OK.

So guess what, to all the people who say upload doesn't matter.
My google maps took forever to load - i have traffic and satellite images enabled.
After this update, they are INSTANT. I tried it right before the update and they were their usual slow selves. NOW wherever I scroll it's instantly up.
Now sure you are saying "well they fixed the download too" however my download speeds haven't really increased. Just wanted to point out UPLOAD SPEED matters too!

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So guess what, to all the people who say upload doesn't matter.
My google maps took forever to load - i have traffic and satellite images enabled.
After this update, they are INSTANT. I tried it right before the update and they were their usual slow selves. NOW wherever I scroll it's instantly up.
Now sure you are saying "well they fixed the download too" however my download speeds haven't really increased. Just wanted to point out UPLOAD SPEED matters too!
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I honestly think they just did some tweaks to the 3G radio drivers all together. Upload wouldn't affect what you are talking about, as that is ALL downloaded. Upload is only content coming FROM your phone pushed to the web.
But yeah, overall it seems ALOT better. I think there were more bugs in the 3G radio than we realized. Hopefully everyone gets a good experience.

Dameon87 said:
I honestly think they just did some tweaks to the 3G radio drivers all together. Upload wouldn't affect what you are talking about, as that is ALL downloaded.
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Sure it would. Google Maps is a highly interactive app, constantly sending requests up to Google's map servers to retrieve map tiles for different areas and zoom levels, then displaying them.

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Sure it would. Google Maps is a highly interactive app, constantly sending requests up to Google's map servers to retrieve map tiles for different areas and zoom levels, then displaying them.
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It's funny how most people really don't understand that upload MATTERS.
A few days in a row here at my house I had 30mb down but my upload was only 128k - you wouldn't believe how horrible my basic browsing experience was.
Tech came, swapped modems, my upload went back to normal (5mb) and I could thankfully browse the web again!
While cruising google maps upload is absolutely important!!

Can actually get 1 bar of 4g at my house where I never could and gained a 3rd 3g bar in my room where I have always had 2 or less. More testing needed but seems alright
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update is on hold for right now

ajac said:
update is on hold for right now
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What? .

3G > Upload speeds increased. I'm getting up to 450kbps ^
Conversely, DL speeds seem to have decreased, but just a bit (though I haven't yet run enough tests to completely confirm this)
4G > After the updated, I've definitely seen an increase in DL speeds. I was maxing at around 7.9Mbps and now it's closer to 9Mbps. I am in Cali where they're still working on the network so this increase may not have been due to the update.
Major downer....I wasn't having all the GPS issues I've heard others having. My device would lock within 15 seconds and sometimes faster. Since doing the update I can't get a lock at all.

zulubushi said:
3G > Upload speeds increased. I'm getting up to 450kbps ^
Conversely, DL speeds seem to have decreased, but just a bit (though I haven't yet run enough tests to completely confirm this)
4G > After the updated, I've definitely seen an increase in DL speeds. I was maxing at around 7.9Mbps and now it's closer to 9Mbps. I am in Cali where they're still working on the network so this increase may not have been due to the update.
Major downer....I wasn't having all the GPS issues I've heard others having. My device would lock within 15 seconds and sometimes faster. Since doing the update I can't get a lock at all.
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My downloads have been horrible since the update on 3g.

I'm still capped. I guess I have to revert to stock and try it.

With 4g now working at home where I sit in my laziest position, I did a speed test
4G On
Download: 3649
Upload: 1148
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With 4g now working at home where I sit in my laziest position, I did a speed test
Download: 3649
Upload: 1148
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those are still pretty lame 4g speeds...right?

zulubushi said:
3G > Upload speeds increased. I'm getting up to 450kbps ^
Conversely, DL speeds seem to have decreased, but just a bit (though I haven't yet run enough tests to completely confirm this)
4G > After the updated, I've definitely seen an increase in DL speeds. I was maxing at around 7.9Mbps and now it's closer to 9Mbps. I am in Cali where they're still working on the network so this increase may not have been due to the update.
Major downer....I wasn't having all the GPS issues I've heard others having. My device would lock within 15 seconds and sometimes faster. Since doing the update I can't get a lock at all.
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Ok, some weirdness. Downloaded GPS Test from AppBrain and all is well now. Don't know what changed, but I'm seeing 8 Satellites and locking on 7. My accuracy is 98.4 feet (30 meters in Google Maps). My SNR is in the high 20's. Seems to lock pretty quickly now (almost instantly) in Google Maps.
Where I'm at (I'm at work now as opposed to home where I was testing earlier) I'm getting close to 2Mbps on 3G down.
All in all, it WOULD appear that this update was good for my stock device.

kbps....
But yeah they are weak but with only one bar barely hanging on, but never had 4G spillover this strong before
3G on with new extra 3rd bar
Download: 1101
Upload: 510
What sucks is they no longer give out the air raves(name) for free and have to pay that puto ass fee to rent it every month.
Get this... they ended the free air raves if you had terrible signal about 3 weeks ago and I called about three days after it ended when they gave me the bad news.
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Well I didn't have to go to complete stock, just stock kernel then just root it. I'll guess we need to wait for the custom kernels to incorporate this new patches stuff.

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Now getting average of 600-800kbps upload! ​

GPS show your good track/ signal strength.

In this tread i ONLY want people with GOOD gps post. Do NOT post any bad track or make any bad post about the gps. You have many others tread for this.
When you post do write were you record this, what firmware you are using, what manufacture date on the phone and what whether it was.
If you want to make a screenshot just press back button and hold it. Then press home button while you still holding the back button.
It don't work on every program.
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I use jpo firmware from kies and i have my own kernel on that.
I record this signal strength in las palmas.
It was a nice whether that day.
My sgs was manufactured 2010-06-29.
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What program is that screenshot from?

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What program is that screenshot from?
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Its from gps test. Its free from the market.
There is alot of program yo use. Even in the sgs there is s program for this, but i think this program you see it in a better way.
I will post more pictures and even tracks when i get out and have time with it.
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This proves absolutely nothing.
Everybody knows that the GPS can work sometimes.

zorxd said:
This proves absolutely nothing.
Everybody knows that the GPS can work sometimes.
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Then show me a working track or something then, instead of spam this tread with nonsense.
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DamianGto said:
I use jpo firmware from kies and i have my own kernel on that.
I record this signal strength in las palmas.
It was a nice whether that day.
My sgs was manufactured 2010-06-29.
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Hello DamianGTO,
I've just upgraded my SGS to Froyo, and I've to say that the GPS signal has improved a lot.
Also, as in the screenshot you post, I'm unable to get a SNR above 40, which in fact is a bad thing, though :S
Regards.

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Then show me a working track or something then, instead of spam this tread with nonsense.
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Why would I, since it would prove nothing but that I have time to loose?
Let say you get 100 people posting a working GPS test and/or track. So what?
An incorrect track prove that there is a problem with the GPS. A correct track proves nothing. A correct GPS test even less.

DamianGto said:
Then show me a working track or something then, instead of spam this tread with nonsense.
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And where's your working track? An screenshot doesn't prove anything.

Good thread, many of us have well working GPS, this is only balancing the fact that "squeaky wheel gets the grease ". Where one is "squeaky", 3 weels are working perfectly well
Anyhow, this is one of the many tracks I got
http://sportypal.com/Workouts/Embed/750981?key=49eb6324c341a52e7e92eecd3378d86f039d06b5&ms=0
Using sporty pal, I used to have issue like this one:
http://sportypal.com/Workouts/Embed/722309?key=c42495263cd2882440f3814aba3e82a48552b1c5&ms=0
The difference is huge!
Same rom used (JH2)
Added the use of TrackerBooster and that's about it.

Please respect this tread and stop spam it with nonsense.
If we can get as many as possible to post good track/ show the signal strength we maby se a pattern.
That pattern can help to solve the problem for people with sgs that had bad gps.
If you spam this tread you only show that you don't want a solution on the problem.
So start thinking on that before you even consider to ruin this tread.
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t1mman said:
Good thread, many of us have well working GPS, this is only balancing the fact that "squeaky wheel gets the grease ". Where one is "squeaky", 3 weels are working perfectly well
Anyhow, this is one of the many tracks I got
http://sportypal.com/Workouts/Embed/750981?key=49eb6324c341a52e7e92eecd3378d86f039d06b5&ms=0
Using sporty pal, I used to have issue like this one:
http://sportypal.com/Workouts/Embed/722309?key=c42495263cd2882440f3814aba3e82a48552b1c5&ms=0
The difference is huge!
Same rom used (JH2)
Added the use of TrackerBooster and that's about it.
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And you consider that a good track! Have you even looked at it properly!! I like the bit where you run through someones house. You only take one sodding corner as well, and even thats not looking so cocky.
My god, straight, turn, straight and even thats crap. Try driving round by me, bends, corners, roundabouts, the things laughable at times. Not to mention it lags behind where I am between 5 and 20 seconds.

I may disagree with DamianGto many times, this thread is for different purposes. I've posted in another thread that the signal strength maybe related to whether or not your GPS works.
If you have 3 or 4 satellites with SnR close to 40 (or over 40 like DamianGto posted above), your GPS will work fine.
So, please post yours and stop spamming this thread with useless comments.
I don't know how to take screen cap. But my SGS GPS is just as crap as a lot others who complained. I have at most one satellite with SnR close to 40 or above. 2 or 3 are around or below 35. Most others are around or below 30.

Unless you ask people to post the serial number and/or manufacturing date of their phone then what pattern to you expect to see?
The only thing you will be able to say is that X people have been able to get a working GPS at least once. So what?
If you have 3 or 4 satellites with SnR close to 40 (or over 40 like DamianGto posted above), your GPS will work fine.
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How do you know? Nobody posted SNR in function of time next to error distance in function of time and I bet no one will on this thread as there are no common tools for that.

There you go, I think thats a pretty good signal strength in anyones book, more than enough to lock and track me....and yet it does it so poorly, in fact it drops and relocks satellites every few seconds.
Correlation between signal strength and good gps = total fail

I already seen a pattern, but i want to confirm that's right.
I also want to know the reson behind it. Then maby we can find a cure. But if people don't respect the purpose of this tread and continue to post nonsense i just stop working on it. So its up to ALL of you.
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DamianGto said:
I already seen a pattern, but i want to confirm that's right.
I also want to know the reson behind it. Then maby we can find a cure. But if people don't respect the purpose of this tread and continue to post nonsense i just stop working on it. So its up to ALL of you.
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Not even you have posted a working track, and the one "working" track I've seen posted so far is laughably bad. Please can YOU post a working track so we can see how good the GPS can be, as your phone is clearly uber awesome.

Bynar010 said:
Not even you have posted a working track, and the one "working" track I've seen posted so far is laughably bad. Please can YOU post a working track so we can see how good the GPS can be, as your phone is clearly uber awesome.
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The pictures you did post i don't considere to be a good one.
Signal strength is important and im more interesting in that. If you can post raw data( position and signal strength) on every point on a track it would be usefull.
I do working on this issue.
But i do it for others. Remember i do have a working gps so i don't have to do this. And if people continue to post junk in this tread i stop.
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Thats me done, until you post a working track. Or is it that you can't and just love to stare at the long bars in GPS test and drool over them?

another ridiculous thread.
lock time and signal strength and number of satellites seen mean ABSOLUTELY NOTHING when it cant track you accurately.
my 3 year old nokia 95, while it did take a while to lock on, once it did (and i think it can only see 5 satellites at a time..) it not only tracked completely on the road the entire path, you could clearly see which side of the road you were on as well. every little detail. it was like 1-3 meter accuracy 100% of the time along a whole track.
ive seen nothing but garbage tracks from every single person posting them. i have a feeling that every single person who claims their galaxy s has a perfectly working gps just plain does not know what a working gps looks like.

My new Vibrant's GPS works better than my old one

It's no joke. Ignore the accuracy rating because it's just an estimate. Look at the SNR's between the two. It works much better in buildings, with Google Navigation, has no problem getting a lock, reported accuracy when driving is often 5-7 meters vs 10 then 40 then searching for GPS with the old phone. Never loses it's GPS lock, EVER and I've been testing it for a few days now. No big circles (stable lock)..
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just fyi, when someone says their GPS works fine - they might be telling the truth

Just curious, why did you get your phone replaced?

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Just curious, why did you get your phone replaced?
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The headset jack

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The headset jack
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The replacement you got is JI6, correct?
Also if you leave it stationary, does the SNR jumps up and down or stays relatively stable?

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It's no joke. Ignore the accuracy rating because it's just an estimate. Look at the SNR's between the two. It works much better in buildings, with Google Navigation, has no problem getting a lock, reported accuracy when driving is often 5-7 meters vs 10 then 40 then searching for GPS with the old phone. Never loses it's GPS lock, EVER and I've been testing it for a few days now. No big circles (stable lock)..
just fyi, when someone says their GPS works fine - they might be telling the truth
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I see you're using 3G on the new one, and wifi on the old one. I get faster locks with wifi off. Can you try them both setup exactly the same? Not saying this accounts for the difference, but I like to see exact comparisons on things like this.
Thanks.

It's the same with or without WiFi on. It was tethered to the other phone. aGPS data was already downloaded. I've tested it both ways and there is no difference, the new phone reports higher SNR's

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It's the same with or without WiFi on. It was tethered to the other phone. aGPS data was already downloaded. I've tested it both ways and there is no difference, the new phone reports higher SNR's
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Cool. Thanks.

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The replacement you got is JI6, correct?
Also if you leave it stationary, does the SNR jumps up and down or stays relatively stable?
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It's much more stable (obviously because of the increased SNR) but I don't know what the reasonable range is. Like I said below, it's cloudy so they should be unstable
Furthermore: off of WiFi for both like requested
It's cloudy today. The new Vibrant's GPS performed admirably when going under clouds while driving but accuracy did decrease. The old Vibrant is probably so bipolar because they are passing clouds. Maybe 2 minutes before I took that pic it had a better lock and as you can see, 4 minutes inbetween shots and the SNR has lowered and shifted on the new Vibrant but the older one completely lost it's (inaccurate) GPS lock.

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It's much more stable (obviously because of the increased SNR) but I don't know what the reasonable range is. Like I said below, it's cloudy so they should be unstable
Furthermore: off of WiFi for both like requested
It's cloudy today. The new Vibrant's GPS performed admirably when going under clouds while driving but accuracy did decrease. The old Vibrant is probably so bipolar because they are passing clouds. Maybe 2 minutes before I took that pic it had a better lock and as you can see, 4 minutes inbetween shots and the SNR has lowered and shifted on the new Vibrant but the older one completely lost it's (inaccurate) GPS lock.
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You should be pretty much on the dot if your SNR is between 30 and 45, the higher the better obviously.

heygrl-
Just so I'm clear...are both of those phones set up identically, i.e., stock 2.1 JI6, etc.? No other differences in settings?

This is true, I traded my phone in because of gps, lag, freezing and crashing, etc...... Got a new phone and transferred all of my stuff to the new phone and the gps was dead on, no more lag and no more freezing, When I tried to use the bluetooth, no worky. tried everything, and so did tmobile, called in and ordered another one, it showed up and everything was great including the bluetooth, loaded in my apps and files and bluetooth quit working, went to tmobile store and they messed with it including a reset to stock and still no worky, pulled battery and it started working, reloaded my apps and files, no bluetooth again, pulled battery and it now works
I pulled the battery on the 1st phone twice and it made no difference????????
What can I say, I think the refurbished phones have been changed some how.....
The gps finds my location on a cold start in about 10 to 15 seconds and if I try it in navigator on a cold start it may take several minutes. on a hot start it takes about 5 seconds
The compass seems to work and when the car is stopped the arrow stays in one place on the map, but it may point in different directions.
If anyone has a phone that has lag issues and or the gps sucks, I would recomend that you do a warrenty trade in immediately, this sticks it to tmobile and samsung and should give you a phone that works

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It's no joke. Ignore the accuracy rating because it's just an estimate. Look at the SNR's between the two. It works much better in buildings, with Google Navigation, has no problem getting a lock, reported accuracy when driving is often 5-7 meters vs 10 then 40 then searching for GPS with the old phone. Never loses it's GPS lock, EVER and I've been testing it for a few days now. No big circles (stable lock)..
just fyi, when someone says their GPS works fine - they might be telling the truth
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Maybe the reason your new one works better is because you haven't messed it up by tinkering with the GPS settings.
I've followed the GPS drama since the Vibrant came out, and remember reading your posts, you've messed around with the GPS settings a lot on your old phone.
Personally, I don't know who came up with all those fake GPS "fixes" for the Vibrant on this forum, they never worked, and just made GPS performance for me worse. I've had better luck on all stock settings. Seriously, why did the mods allow that thread to continue titled "GPS FIX" bogus, no fix at all.
Maybe going into your GPS settings and deleting data and tinkering with **** is not a good idea.
Enjoy your new phone.

I didn't touch the LBSTestMode settings on either phone. It's pointless stuff, it doesn't last/can make stuff worse for how ever long it lasts. Either way it doesn't really make a difference here. I recently lost everything on my old phone thanks to Eugene's FroYo and had to start fresh again. Even beforehand I haven't done anything in LBSTestMode. Changes in GPS software have to come from Samsung.

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I didn't touch the LBSTestMode settings on either phone. It's pointless stuff, it doesn't last/can make stuff worse for how ever long it lasts. Either way it doesn't really make a difference here. I recently lost everything on my old phone thanks to Eugene's FroYo and had to start fresh again.
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how many exchanges have you done?

One at the crapshack and one from T-Mobile

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One at the crapshack and one from T-Mobile
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Hopefully you won't need anymore. Enjoy your new phone.

Even when locked, my vibrant only accurate to 30 feet meh.

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Even when locked, my vibrant only accurate to 30 feet meh.
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That's a problem, because even under these poor weather conditions (for GPS) getting down to 24FT/over my house on the map in my house is not a problem. Not any worse than the DROID X

The JI6 update OBVIOUSLY fixed the GPS lock and stable accuracy because it was listed on the bug fix list from Samsung and mine sure showed a very fast GPS lock via 3G even on a rainy cloudy day in California INSIDE the room upstairs a few feet away from the window and it worked at work place and a couple other spots even the phone was turned on after a full charge. And I love the Vibrant even more and I love GPS with the free nice looking voice guidance nav app from Google. And EVERYTHING that takes max cpu power and ram run smooth unlike other Android phones.

[Q] (Q) 3G painfully slow?

I currently have an HD2 with Hardspl3. The radio i have installed is 2.11.50.20. The rom i have installed is Jaws-MIUI base on MIUI 28-1 NAND(because i got annoyed launching Android thru windows mobile 6.5 everytime). Problem I;m having is not with android itself. My wifi speeds(although not as fast as they normally are) are Download: 7038 and Upload: 1825. Normally they are above 20000 but idk what's going on. And my 3G speeds are Download: 46kbps Upload: 12 kbps. Which of course is beyond bad. Typically i got 3-6mbps on any of my other android phones(my last being the myTouch 4G) in my area. So I'm just wondering what is gone wrong. I live in the US. Should i try a bunch of radios til i get something that works? I'm a little unsure. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you
Edit: My speeds are back to normal as of today, February 4th. It turns out T-mobile can lower ur data speeds to almost a hault if u go over ur 5gb data. The good thing is they don't charge u extra per mb/gb like other carriers. They just slow down ur internet(mine's was slowed down to below dial-up at 46kb!). They sent me a text message 2 days ago saying that when my next bill cycle starts up, speeds will be returned to normal(officially it's tmw, but they came back today). My speeds are back up to 1.5-3mb now . So if ur a T-mobile customer experiencing 3G connectivity issues, monitor 3G usage. Once u pass 5gb, they limit ur connectivity, which 46kb is near useless. GPS is barely functional, txt messages take forever to send/receive. It sucks.

Try Radio 2.12.50.xx

jalshah05 said:
Try Radio 2.12.50.xx
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Just did right now. Still the same speeds

DaArtist401 said:
Just did right now. Still the same speeds
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Check your APN settings http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=899726 Or try different ROM.. I don know what might be the problem though...

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Check your APN settings http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=899726 Or try different ROM.. I don know what might be the problem though...
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Na im still havent problems with it. DL:47 UL 48. This sucks. Gotta keep searching i guess

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Na im still havent problems with it. DL:47 UL 48. This sucks. Gotta keep searching i guess
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as weird as it sounds, i believe this has to do with the i/o speeds in some roms... i've tested a bunch, and the only thing that i've seen is the i/o speeds are different, the ones that read higher, are the ones with faster download speeds in the market, and faster browser load times... try a different rom and see if that helps

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as weird as it sounds, i believe this has to do with the i/o speeds in some roms... i've tested a bunch, and the only thing that i've seen is the i/o speeds are different, the ones that read higher, are the ones with faster download speeds in the market, and faster browser load times... try a different rom and see if that helps
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Yea, well thing is i did. That's why i'm wondering whats wrong. The first rom i tried was darkstone SuperRAM FroYo v1.5 off SD. It had same download speeds im getting now(i think a little lower actually). Then i decided to NAND Windows Phone 7. Used it for a day, n didn't like it much. The 3G speeds were pretty slow on WP7 too(but i had no means of checking thru speed test cuz i didn't have live services). It was just super slow web browsing. And then i came to NexusHD2-Froyo_V1.9G_NAND as my first NAND android rom. I didn't test the speeds there tho, although i could not get google to sync with my email thru 3G. So i think it's safe to say the 3G speeds weren't hot there. And then came to this rom. Idk, i'm hoping it's not a hardware problem. I just got this phone used yesterday

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Yea, well thing is i did. That's why i'm wondering whats wrong. The first rom i tried was darkstone SuperRAM FroYo v1.5 off SD. It had same download speeds im getting now(i think a little lower actually). Then i decided to NAND Windows Phone 7. Used it for a day, n didn't like it much. The 3G speeds were pretty slow on WP7 too(but i had no means of checking thru speed test cuz i didn't have live services). It was just super slow web browsing. And then i came to NexusHD2-Froyo_V1.9G_NAND as my first NAND android rom. I didn't test the speeds there tho, although i could not get google to sync with my email thru 3G. So i think it's safe to say the 3G speeds weren't hot there. And then came to this rom. Idk, i'm hoping it's not a hardware problem. I just got this phone used yesterday
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I'm using CMYLXGO's STOCK and my 3g speeds are awesome... even Edge is not that painful... sound quality is great, never drop connection, and sometimes i'll get 3.5G and it helps a ton too... maybe check that one out... its a desire rom if you like sense its the best i think...

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I'm using CMYLXGO's STOCK and my 3g speeds are awesome... even Edge is not that painful... sound quality is great, never drop connection, and sometimes i'll get 3.5G and it helps a ton too... maybe check that one out... its a desire rom if you like sense its the best i think...
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The funny thing is my edge network speeds are faster. Jeez I don't know what the problem is with the 3G. I've tried everything I can think of. Idle what the previous owner did with the phone. I'm not sure if the terrible snow storms are affecting my signal(they are affecting my cable and home internet). But I even checked some guides on APN and everything and I can't get it to work right. Ima see what happens in a day or two. Maybe its the weather. I hope it is. I NEED my 3G speeds for school tethering etc

I tried that rom u recommended and still nothing. This sucks. Idk what to even do with this phone at the moment. I feel like i got it for nothing. I guess i was unfortunate to get a terrible phone with the worst signal. It's even worst now. 15kbps DL

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I tried that rom u recommended and still nothing. This sucks. Idk what to even do with this phone at the moment. I feel like i got it for nothing. I guess i was unfortunate to get a terrible phone with the worst signal. It's even worst now. 15kbps DL
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My best speed (4mbps down) was with the 2.15.50 radio and CyanogenMod7 2.6 (NAND). I'd try that combination and see how it works for you.
Here is a link to all the radios:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=611787

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My best speed (4mbps down) was with the 2.15.50 radio and CyanogenMod7 2.6 (NAND). I'd try that combination and see how it works for you.
Here is a link to all the radios:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=611787
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Yea, i actually just installed this exact rom and radio after seeing a pic on MDJ thread with the radio and rom together to see if it would help. Sadly it didn't. These are what my speeds have been looking like all day on 3G. This particular one is that combo u mentioned.
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This is with wifi. My wifi has also taken quite the hit. I'm normally above 14mbps DL with my other phones i had(Mytouch 4G, Nexus One, Samsung Vibrant)

Problem solved
Problem solved, for those interested, check the edit on first post. I think this should be a widely known fact for anyone on T-Mobile. I had no idea and i been on T-Mobile for over a year :-/

im getting kinda the same problem on tmobile however i know its not due to the data cap one. it randomly just gets no connection at all and if i open the dialer and hit*#*#4636#*#* and go in and switch it from wcdma only to gsm auto or vise versa it starts working again for a little bit then it goes out again to no connection at all ping 999 dl- 0.00 upload-0.00 ive tried several different roms radios its weird cause if i flash a new rom it will seem okay for a few days then it does it again ive also checked my apn settings they are okay. if anyone has any ideas feel free to share cause i cant figure it out.