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HTC to retire QWERTY from its future plans
http://www.phonearena.com/news/HTC-to-retire-QWERTY-from-its-future-plans_id29293
Does it mean we will not get a decent Desire Z successor from HTC?
That would be sad because i like the look and feel of a real hardware keyboard.
And it's much more comfortable compared to a virtual keyboard.
Maybe sony, motorola or lg will build a comparable "successor" for the desire z.
the reason why HTC's qwerty phone recently are not as good as they should because of the quirky hinge mechanism and if you want to bring up HTC Chacha, then it's their screw up because that's a mediocre phone that sucks to begin with.
bring back the HTC Touch Pro type qwerty keyboard and we'll talk.
NOOOOOOO
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I call bull****.
They need a new desire Z-like phone based off the One S!!!
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http://www.concept-phones.com/htc/htc-return-sliding-keyboard/
Nice
This wouldn't surprise me one bit. HTC has been making one stupid decision after the another. The One Series with non removable batteries or storage is extremely flawed thinking. I know they have been struggling lately compared to Samsung, Motorola, etc... But simplifying phones isn't the answer. Making fewer, more higher quality phones sounds good (and is something they should stick with) but not at the cost of losing features to make it 1mm thinner! Who knows with these stupid phone manufacturers though?! They might change their minds/direction again in a few months lol! I don't think they even know what they want! I'm really starting to lose faith in HTC whether this story is true or not.
Almost as if they have caught the Nokia flu then?
Panic, panic and then some panic? Let's hope they don't announce abandoning Android and betting everything on Microsoft and for example thin-thin phones.
Seriously, the hardware keyboard is not on it's way out. No way. When machines can read our minds maybe.
Bought my 2nd DZ (brand new) a few weeks ago , a phone without a physical keyboard isn't an option for me.
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NOOOOOOO
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My thoughts exactly. NOOOOOOOOOOOOO
On a more serious note, I may be wrong but I've noticed that HTC is moving towards a more iPhoneish design of devices. Like the non-removable batteries for example.
This is a tad disappointing to be honest...I always liked HTC because the produced quality phones, like the Touch Pro2 or the Desire Z, but I don't see the same quality with the one Series.
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So this means I will get my new phone from someone else, I love HTC for the things we all know. But I'm not a fanboy, so no qwerty, no HTC. The problem is who... I don't like at all LG and Samsung for different reason (I think I bought the worst optimus one ever sold... And about Samsung, have you read they're about to release S-Cloud........) Motorola could get better with google and the milestones doesn't look bad at all, but google seems to be about to sell its mobile sector and motorola phones have always looked a bit too serious for me.. The desire z was perfect betweem the LG/Samsung qwerty phones thta seemed to be built for kids to break them in a hour and Motorola that looked like business phones...
Hiope they change their mind or it's fake...
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Voila... 98 full qwerty keyboard android devices. A plenty to chose from.
http://www.meetgadget.com/gadget/category/Cell%20Phones/#/gadget/category/Cell Phones/?f[3373]=4764&f[7178][]=9439
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Voila... 98 full qwerty keyboard android devices. A plenty to chose from.
http://www.meetgadget.com/gadget/ca...gory/Cell Phones/?f[3373]=4764&f[7178][]=9439
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I'm not sure if any of those are going to be worthy successors of the DZ. I hope I'm wrong though.
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Voila... 98 full qwerty keyboard android devices. A plenty to chose from.
http://www.meetgadget.com/gadget/category/Cell%20Phones/#/gadget/category/Cell Phones/?f[3373]=4764&f[7178][]=9439
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u do know our dz is the best between all of those...
Two things brought me to HTC - a great keyboard and a greater interface. I love Sense UI and everything in it. I love my Desire Z's keyboard and everything about it.
Too bad. I'll have to choose..
Well, the statement in the article (even if its confirmed) doesn't make any claim to the length of time they are talking about (just "future plans"). If anything, HTC has shown in the past few months that they are willing to change direction quickly in order to compete. May very well only be a present and near future plan. And while this does seem to sink hopes of finding a suitable QWERTY replacement for the Z/G2 anytime soon, I have no doubt that HTC would quickly change this stance at a later time, if they had reason to believe there was good enough demand for phones with hardware keyboards.
As for competitors with QWERTY smartphones, just my opinion that all other manufacturers tend to disappoint me with their build quality. Motorola handsets often look great on paper, and even ok in photos, but always feel like cheap plasticky crap, with clunky keyboards once in hand. Similarly, Samsung and LG continue to feel lower in build quality to most HTC products.
But on that same note, its disappointing to see HTC take the "slimmer, lighter" route with their flagship One X line. Haven't actually held one in hand yet, but I have a feeling the polycarbonate body just isn't going to feel as sturdy as HTC's aluminum body designs. I've read a number complaints about the weight of aluminum body phones, and the popular trend is obviously thinner & lighter. But I actually like to have some heft to the phone. Aluminum body phones just look nicer, and feel more durable than skinny light plastic phones. And I don't understand why people make such a big deal about weight anyway. It doesn't make any difference when its sitting in your pocket. And if you get tired holding something that weighs a few ounces, you should probably exercise more.
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Voila... 98 full qwerty keyboard android devices. A plenty to chose from.
http://www.meetgadget.com/gadget/ca...gory/Cell Phones/?f[3373]=4764&f[7178][]=9439
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There's only two on that list I like....on page 2... the desire z and g2
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I'm afraid H/W Keyboard phones have gotten less popular.
The ones that are out right now don't really compare to the DZ and it doesn't seem like there'll ever be a worthy successor to it. Thus, there will be a lot less users and even less devs on such phones.
I don't know about you guys, but whether I like it or not, I'd easily give up a H/W keyboard for a good and lasting dev scene like ours.
@redpoint I've had the chance to play around with a One X yesterday and I think you stand correct about the build quality. I'd much rather prefer an aluminum body over polycarbonate.
crestofawave said:
I'm afraid H/W Keyboard phones have gotten less popular.
The ones that are out right now don't really compare to the DZ and it doesn't seem like there'll ever be a worthy successor to it. Thus, there will be a lot less users and even less devs on such phones.
I don't know about you guys, but whether I like it or not, I'd easily give up a H/W keyboard for a good and lasting dev scene like ours.
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Yep same, I'm thinking of getting the one x in summer... if it doesn't fit in my pocket then the one s. Need a new phone to be honest
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This news saddens me! I've desperately been waiting for HTC to release a new QWERTY phone. I'm not a fanboy, but a sensed up android just feels best.
Now if only Nokia pops out a Lumia QWERTY I'm theirs. Sorry HTC, better luck next time my cell plan let's me pick a new phone
But if that doesn't happen I guess it's the Sony Experia Pro for me. Not a huge upgrade, but a upgrade not the less. Plus it's unrooted users got ICS OTA a while back. I'm still waiting for HTC to show us that same love...
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I made a promise to myself NEVER to buy again HTC after the HTC One X Wi Fi scandal fiasco. I was ready to go back to Samsung but then this gorgeous phone shows up and I am all confused again.
Had I not suffered greatly with the HTC One X antenna problems I would dive in for the HTC One. It looks amazing!
How can we be sure HTC learned its lessons with the HTC One X?
Garoto1973 said:
I made a promise to myself NEVER to buy again HTC after the HTC One X Wi Fi scandal fiasco. I was ready to go back to Samsung but then this gorgeous phone shows up and I am all confused again.
Had I not suffered greatly with the HTC One X antenna problems I would dive in for the HTC One. It looks amazing!
How can we be sure HTC learned its lessons with the HTC One X?
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Htc need this device to do well so to mess up with build quality when it's being pushed as a premium device is a big mistake.
Funny how different poeple's perceptions differ .. I preordered, and got one on the day of release, and can honestly say that the only problem I recall having with my One-X was the erratic GPS. which was fixed within a couple of months of the release date.
My Wifi has been fine on my HOX but after the problems it had and the antenna scandal on the iPhone I think HTC would have tested it thoroughly to make sure that everything works perfectly.
The Wifi issue isn't the only concern.
I am more worried about multiple manufactures for the Screen. I had the HTC One XL and ended up returning it because I got stuck with the inferior screen.
Hope HTC Does not make the same mistake.
Screen lottery is one thing that does concern me.
This was an issue with the Sensation and the One X. At launch I couldn't find a One X that didn't have a noticeable yellow tint.
I am weary of pre-ordering one and having to swap it due to niggles like this. White should be white! Or slightly blue, not fussed, hah.
Don't forget yellow screens and digitizers that don't last on the EVO 3d... Among other simple things. I'm not sold 100%.
The One XL didn't have any major issues; at least not compared to the One X. The DNA/Butterfly's launch has also been pretty smooth with only a couple of niggly issues with port covers and the like. Display issues are always going to pop up on a percentage of devices because it's just the way it is with so little margin for error during production. As others said, HTC's got a lot riding on the One so I'd expect QC to be a high priority.
This is an issue for many. I swore never to buy HTC after the problems with my DHD rebooting. HTC didn't give a toss. Their terrible customer service was featured on a consumer's rights TV programme here in the UK called Watchdog. The HTC Facebook page was bombarded with other customers slating them.
There will be problems, you can be sure of that. All phones have issues to begin with and most (software) get ironed out after release.
Don't forget the Galaxy S 3 with crippled with the 1GB of RAM. Can't wait to get rid of my SGS3!
We should start a sweep steak to predict the HTC ONE problems.
I'll start.. random reboots! HTC love em
Every phone has problems when they're released from HTC, Samsung or Apple. It's just how big they are or how long they take to be fixed.
Personally I don't mind cause custom ROM's tend to fix most problems.
gibbs1984 said:
Every phone has problems when they're released from HTC, Samsung or Apple. It's just how big they are or how long they take to be fixed.
Personally I don't mind cause custom ROM's tend to fix most problems.
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So true. Had a evo3d since launch and had no problems at all, but i know of others that had many.
Can't wait to try out the one... Hope I have as much luck with it as I did last time. 12 days and counting
Maedhros said:
The Wifi issue isn't the only concern.
I am more worried about multiple manufactures for the Screen. I had the HTC One XL and ended up returning it because I got stuck with the inferior screen.
Hope HTC Does not make the same mistake.
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How many people do you think are making 4.7" 1080p screens? This is the only phone on the market using them....
M.
Maedhros said:
The Wifi issue isn't the only concern.
I am more worried about multiple manufactures for the Screen. I had the HTC One XL and ended up returning it because I got stuck with the inferior screen.
Hope HTC Does not make the same mistake.
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Maybe I just got lucky but I haven't had any issues certainly with regards to WIFI or screen. What inferior screen problems were there if I may ask? Maybe I have one and I don't know it lol.
GPS lock could be better. Mind you I don't use it much except when I'm playing golf and for the most part it seemed to work fine.
Also HTC really can't afford to put out a crappy product. It'll almost be the end of them (ok not really but you get it) if they do.
Surely the antenna issue is a design issue and not build quality.
In my opinion htc's build quality is better than most of their rivals.
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For issue less phone
Wait for a month
They will rectify the mistakes in the upcoming production
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mattman83 said:
How many people do you think are making 4.7" 1080p screens? This is the only phone on the market using them....
M.
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So...? Whats your point? HTC could be sourcing the screens from 2 or 3 companies like they did with the HTC One X. It matters not that they are the only ones using the screens,
XL2001 said:
Maybe I just got lucky but I haven't had any issues certainly with regards to WIFI or screen. What inferior screen problems were there if I may ask? Maybe I have one and I don't know it lol.
GPS lock could be better. Mind you I don't use it much except when I'm playing golf and for the most part it seemed to work fine.
Also HTC really can't afford to put out a crappy product. It'll almost be the end of them (ok not really but you get it) if they do.
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Asaik HTC used 3 diffferent panels, each with its own quirks. I won't tell you which ones inferior, and I suggest you not look it up so long as your happy with yours
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Asaik HTC used 3 diffferent panels, each with its own quirks.
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Both the XZ and DNA/Butterfly use the Renesas (Sharp) 63311 LCD panel. It or a variation of it may be what's in the One.
http://www.rsp.renesas.com/en/news/2012/news20120418.htm
razer1224 said:
For issue less phone
Wait for a month
They will rectify the mistakes in the upcoming production
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Exactly. The first mass beta test begins in the UK on the 15th March
gibbs1984 said:
Every phone has problems when they're released from HTC, Samsung or Apple. It's just how big they are or how long they take to be fixed.
Personally I don't mind cause custom ROM's tend to fix most problems.
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This is precisely my attitude. I don't care about software bugs or missing features etc... they will be fixed by the geniuses on here.
Only hardware matters to me.
With zero gap this trap there should be less build quality issues
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Straight from an HTC exec, the company has been downgraded from a Tier 1 client by many suppliers, meaning they don't get first dibs on components, because of poor shipment forecasts. Not only can they not acquire enough camera modules, but the metal casing is apparently also to blame for delays. When you tout the 200 minutes of CNC machining required just to make the phone's body, and you also want it to be a mass market success and not some custom low yield and expensive luxury item, there will be ramifications if you don't have the necessary production resources all in order. HTC didn't seem to prioritize ease of manufacturing, which has been the downfall of many other tech products and companies in the past.
Late last year, the iPhone 5 also experienced heavy delays because the metal casing was chipping and they needed to tighten quality control, which undoubtedy cost them a good chunk of sales. But Apple is a strong brand and people are willing to and used to waiting for their products. HTC doesn't have this sort of clout. They are trying to prove themselves after hitting rock bottom, to stand back up from the fall, but these continuing reports of delays are the death knell to HTC's carion call. Furthermore, the iPhone only experienced minor chipping and cosmetic issues that could be quickly rectified as they had the whole manufacturing process with Foxconn under their domain. HTC's obstacles are far larger and the outlook far more tenuous. Many people may hate the plastic build of Samsung's phones, but it can be churned out en masse with efficiency, and once the consumer can get past the cheaper feel, the phone is functionally similar in durability to a metal phone and far superior in reception.
Even when the HTC One finally gets released at the end of the month, it will be very limited, almost considered vaporware in some countries. Whether they can even secure a reliable manufacturing line after the soft launch is uncertain. What is certain though, is that the Galaxy S IV will be coming out in full force very soon, and other competitors are also not resting on their laurels. Is this the end for HTC?
More HTC One delays:
http://www.engadget.com/2013/03/19/htc-one-delayed/
http://www.theverge.com/2013/3/19/4122798/htc-one-delayed-because-of-component-shortage
It's been released already. I'm typing this on a One right now.
Shasarak said:
It's been released already. I'm typing this on a One right now.
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Meanwhile, the rest of the world is still waiting.
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Meanwhile, the rest of the world is still waiting.
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I dunno people have been getting deliveries this week?
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I would imagine that anyone that has seen the phone and likes it would be prepared to wait a bit for it, but HTC certainly shot themselves in the foot with these problems. I may be a bit biased, I love HTC devices(Desire, currently E3D) pre-ordered ONE, but I feel the ONE will be worth the wait. For me don't like iPhones(way too small), SGS4 do not like the design, like the design of the Blackberry but not the size or OS, Like the Xperia Z a lot just not the skin. Bit of a dilema if not for the ONE. Thank HTC for the ONE.
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Originally I wanted to have several devices to run some display testing, and I was supposed to give them back, but with now 3 HTC One phones (2 silver and 1 black) in my possession, I am having trouble parting from them.
I am now seriously considering keeping the other two phones, one as a remote control, one as a hotspot router with permanent that remains online in all social networks.
I love the fact that I always have 1 charged up phone ready to be grabbed, checked upon, plus I really couldn't decide which screen I like best. The 6640K one has got really accurate colors and is brighter and the 6970K one has got the best contrast.
This way I can move back and forth between the two displays depending on my mood.
Feeling the aluminum of the device in my hands was already making me beam, but now sometimes I have all 3 devices in my hands, gliding on each other and I find the slow aluminum rubbing noise wildly erotic.
The HTC One is the best piece of hardware I have seen in a long time. Three HTC Ones make me smile any day. Ever since I got the HTC One, I stopped dating, I do more sports and am constantly overjoyed with anything ordinary.
Everytime I am around a smartphone shop, I feel like chatting clients up and make them marvel about the phone. I have started an unofficial job as an HTC One advisor, now Vodafone and O2 shop representatives let me talk to their clients whenever they see me and don't bother advising clients anymore. They have gotten used to me measuring up screens.
I realize my behavior is not normal, though. I was wondering if any of you had the same experience and if you had any tricks how you can quit feeling addicted to the HTC One. I have tried reducing the brightness, shutting down the sun and hiding the phone under pillows, but none of this helped.
Hahaha and here I am waiting for just "one"
Best thread in along while :good:
I had the same feeling about my One X
Ps: I would have proudly shared your experience on HTC Elevate of it wasn't for the erotic part haha
I've had the same feeling with my xperia play but not till this extend and advising others, but let's see after I get the HTC One.
Basically it's called a nerdgasm =P
I will be buying a black 64gb version when they are available in the UK as I really like this device. Already have a silver One. I use one phone for business and one for personal.
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I had 2, so i kinda know how you feel. I just picked the best one, and belive it or not, even though the screens differed slightly (And that was all) it boiled down to me keeping the Sim Free (Unlocked and Debranded) One.. . sold the one on EE and made £490
Hope this helps. . .
Nope. I have many phones but this One is sure going. Getting the DNA Beast
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First world problems ey? haha
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Which one u like better. Black or silver?
Have you named them yet?
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So it's the "HTC Three" then or the "HTC onex3"
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schrickm5 said:
Have you named them yet?
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Silver Candy
Metal Lolli
Black Breaker
puremind said:
Silver Candy
Metal Lolli
Black Breaker
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By the way Puremind, excellent responses to that imbecile on the GS4 thread, you know which one I mean.
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By the way Puremind, excellent responses to that imbecile on the GS4 thread, you know which one I mean.
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This I need to see!!!
Puremind you are a legend!
I need to find out which screen I have now, whats the best way to go about doing so if you don't mind my asking?
I guess its time for a rehab centre special for HTC instead of XTC addiction
Could you send me the one you least like among the three. Pm me if interested
Send/Sell one to Hamdir!
The handset and postage would probably work out to be cheaper than what he'd pay over there!
puremind said:
Originally I wanted to have several devices to run some display testing, and I was supposed to give them back, but with now 3 HTC One phones (2 silver and 1 black) in my possession, I am having trouble parting from them.
I am now seriously considering keeping the other two phones, one as a remote control, one as a hotspot router with permanent that remains online in all social networks.
I love the fact that I always have 1 charged up phone ready to be grabbed, checked upon, plus I really couldn't decide which screen I like best. The 6640K one has got really accurate colors and is brighter and the 6970K one has got the best contrast.
This way I can move back and forth between the two displays depending on my mood.
Feeling the aluminum of the device in my hands was already making me beam, but now sometimes I have all 3 devices in my hands, gliding on each other and I find the slow aluminum rubbing noise wildly erotic.
The HTC One is the best piece of hardware I have seen in a long time. Three HTC Ones make me smile any day. Ever since I got the HTC One, I stopped dating, I do more sports and am constantly overjoyed with anything ordinary.
Everytime I am around a smartphone shop, I feel like chatting clients up and make them marvel about the phone. I have started an unofficial job as an HTC One advisor, now Vodafone and O2 shop representatives let me talk to their clients whenever they see me and don't bother advising clients anymore. They have gotten used to me measuring up screens.
I realize my behavior is not normal, though. I was wondering if any of you had the same experience and if you had any tricks how you can quit feeling addicted to the HTC One. I have tried reducing the brightness, shutting down the sun and hiding the phone under pillows, but none of this helped.
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Seriously You are sick mate... :laugh:
Dude, you are high!
bornotty said:
I've had the same feeling with my xperia play but not till this extend and advising others, but let's see after I get the HTC One.
Basically it's called a nerdgasm =P
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Agreeeeeeed
Idk if you guys have noticed but HTC is declining at an alarming rate http://thenextweb.com/insider/2015/08/13/htc-cuts-15-of-its-workforce-as-it-battles-poor-sales/ and they're worthless http://techcrunch.com/2015/08/10/htc-is-now-essentially-worthless-and-insecure/#.lb8fpr:0sl9 . So do you guys think HTC is doomed or will they make a comeback?
Theandroidfan said:
Idk if you guys have noticed but HTC is declining at an alarming rate http://thenextweb.com/insider/2015/08/13/htc-cuts-15-of-its-workforce-as-it-battles-poor-sales/ and they're worthless http://techcrunch.com/2015/08/10/htc-is-now-essentially-worthless-and-insecure/#.lb8fpr:0sl9 . So do you guys think HTC is doomed or will they make a comeback?
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LOL I read those same links and came up with a different conclusion than you..........................................
In the short term profits are non existent, but that does not mean they are down and out.
Look at most of the USA's motor manufacturers, they were in the same boat not to long back
It's funny you mention this. I was displaying something at work the other day to a coworker and a few of his friends. After the video was over, someone asked: "What phone is that?" I said "The HTC One M9". He responded with "HTC? Wow I haven't seen anyone with an HTC in a long time." The rest of the group nodded. That's when I realized that HTC is behind in the game, even if their Flagship product continues to out-pace the S6 and G4 in terms of battery life and build quality. When people think of buying a new phone the first thing that pops into their heads are either the iPhone or Samsung. Samsung is a massive company that has been saturating the market with advertisements for years. But even moving passed them, what are some other phone manufacturers that normal, non-tech savvy people would think of. LG is a familiar name. HTC? Not so much.
HTC needs to get its name out there. Its making quality devices and no one seems to care. The M9 wasn't a big departure from the M8 in terms of looks and when people buy phones they want to be noticed. A phone is every bit an upgrade to the person's communication capabilities as it is a social status. For the buyers that do research before purchasing a new device, they probably stumbled upon the slew of articles proclaiming the Snapdragon 810's heat problems. They also probably read about the lackluster camera. While the camera, after many updates, is quite good, it still doesn't have basic features like OIS. Unfortunately, we live in a society where the camera is the most important part of the phone; thanks to Instagram, Snapchat, Twitter, Facebook, etc. People want a phone that they can just point and shoot in any condition and take a good photo. So when I read articles like the ones you posted above, I find myself not really that surprised. HTC has struggled to keep up with the likes of Samsung, LG and Motorola. Period.
As for me, the M9 is nice, but I absolutely cannot wait for the new Nexus 5 to come out this year. The development community here has some nice content but between Sense and the lack of sources coming from HTC, I find myself missing my old N5 more and more. This will be the last HTC device I'll ever own.
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The M9 wasn't a big departure from the M8 in terms of looks and when people buy phones they want to be noticed.
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Yeah because Apple totally redesign their phones every year and wouldn't possibly ship the same phone again with an S badge on it. People still queue for days down the street for it.
They're in trouble, yes. Even a killer M10 might not be enough because the market is just saturated and the margins on flagship phones are so thin. And they're going to have trouble rolling out a killer phone for the simple reason that nobody can afford to max out the specs anymore and still sell their phones at a profit. I mean, look what happened with the OP2. Even Samsung had to cut corners on the S6 (battery, sdcard slot).
Samsung is surviving on marketing and market share, but when the cheap smartphones from China start really flooding the market, things are going to change for everyone.
Despite the negation of some, HTC is at its darkest hour. If the hero product coming doesn't turns out to be a real hero, I'm afraid the M10 will be the last for them to succeed they need both to be successful, and considering the middle tier and phones like the Redmi Note 2 out there, it's gonna be really hard
In my humble opinion, HTC should try not to compete with Apple and Samsung, but move in a new direction. They should move to a more niche market, keeping the things they are good at and also creating a device that comes rooted, so people who like all the modding can have a device that would truly unique to them or bespoke.
Samsung and Apple are to big now for HTC to compete with, so heading in a completely different directions may save HTC, but the company would be a lot smaller than it is now.
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Alcolawl said:
It's funny you mention this. I was displaying something at work the other day to a coworker and a few of his friends. After the video was over, someone asked: "What phone is that?" I said "The HTC One M9". He responded with "HTC? Wow I haven't seen anyone with an HTC in a long time." The rest of the group nodded. That's when I realized that HTC is behind in the game, even if their Flagship product continues to out-pace the S6 and G4 in terms of battery life and build quality. When people think of buying a new phone the first thing that pops into their heads are either the iPhone or Samsung. Samsung is a massive company that has been saturating the market with advertisements for years. But even moving passed them, what are some other phone manufacturers that normal, non-tech savvy people would think of. LG is a familiar name. HTC? Not so much.
HTC needs to get its name out there. Its making quality devices and no one seems to care. The M9 wasn't a big departure from the M8 in terms of looks and when people buy phones they want to be noticed. A phone is every bit an upgrade to the person's communication capabilities as it is a social status. For the buyers that do research before purchasing a new device, they probably stumbled upon the slew of articles proclaiming the Snapdragon 810's heat problems. They also probably read about the lackluster camera. While the camera, after many updates, is quite good, it still doesn't have basic features like OIS. Unfortunately, we live in a society where the camera is the most important part of the phone; thanks to Instagram, Snapchat, Twitter, Facebook, etc. People want a phone that they can just point and shoot in any condition and take a good photo. So when I read articles like the ones you posted above, I find myself not really that surprised. HTC has struggled to keep up with the likes of Samsung, LG and Motorola. Period.
As for me, the M9 is nice, but I absolutely cannot wait for the new Nexus 5 to come out this year. The development community here has some nice content but between Sense and the lack of sources coming from HTC, I find myself missing my old N5 more and more. This will be the last HTC device I'll ever own.
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Great post, I'm with ya... In my case, I miss my OnePlus One just like you miss your Nexus 5. I'm planning on getting one of the two new Nexus that are coming out in October as well, and the M9 is probably going to be my last HTC device as well.
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Yeah because Apple totally redesign their phones every year and wouldn't possibly ship the same phone again with an S badge on it. People still queue for days down the street for it.
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HTC is not apple. Apple can afford to do that, HTC can't.
I bought the M9 on a whim (and to see if HTC got its head straight after the Doubleshot debacle) and I'm impressed with this phone. Unfortunately it's too little too late.
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I have a lot of htc devices before i buy sgs3 and then sgs5. I go for sammy because there was too many hardware issues with htc phones. But touchwiz i the ugliest launcher. I just can'tuse it. So i install cm on my samsungs. But there was always something that doesnt work as it should. Now with m9 i am very happy again. I would definitely support this copamny in future. I don't know why people are expecting so different design. Not always different is good.
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I hope it doesn't lose ground. I know this isn't a popular device amongst the 2015 flagships. Definitely doesn't beat m8 in terms of popularity either. Their main focus is their next phone but hope htc continues to give us timely updates and support for this device. My only concern.
It's sad that my dad even knows this company is struggling and he doesn't know anything about smartphones.
I'm hoping HTC doesn't die either, pretty much the only phone on the market I like due to the sense overlay, don't like Samsung's touchwiz and as for the rest, LG, Sony etc, well you may as well just get a Nexus, and Sony are rubbish for updates in my experience, Cant stand I don't know phones.
M9 is currently available on Virgin Mobile for half the price it was 4 months ago, sorry all those who grabbed it as soon as it came out on a 2 year contract and are paying double :crying: current price is not a good sign, still may grab one however when my contract comes up for renewal in November, maybe it will be a bit cheaper.
HTC are upsetting a lot of people at the moment with them promising updates and then not bothering, M8 just lost its August update, we now have to wait till android M release, and I can really see by the time its ready, they will use the excuse that the device is over 2 years old so no update, so still no Sense 7 unless you go custom rom, if XDA developers can do it, why cant HTC ?
HTC Mini 2 aka M8 mini, only got a year of updates, didn't even get Lollipop, not a very happy Mrs. promised by HTC then cancelled.
M7 updates got the 2 year excuse and left with a buggy Lollipop, which were fixed by Google 4 weeks later in 5.1.
I miss the HTC that made good phones like this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfSxWNOG8DQ That video gives me a nostalgia overload.
Looks like htc is digging a bigger hole for the m9 with the a9 being announced in September.
The support for this device is going to downtrend fast.
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Looks like htc is digging a bigger hole for the m9 with the a9 being announced in September.
The support for this device is going to downtrend fast.
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If they do a good job with the initial release that doesn't needs to be true; It will include the latest android version, so no need to worry about system updates probably until android M, it will include the stagefright patches, so no need to worry about that either. If it includes a good camera and gets rid of Snapdragon 810, there won't be a need of constant firmware updates and even if it includes the 810, they've improved it so much so far, so there would be no need to firmware updates, cause they passed for that with the M9 already.
Again that's assuming they're going to announce sometihng at IFA, which is yet uncertain.
Simply put...nowadays phone manufacturers don't need to build the best phone to sell the "best" phone, they just have to make it the most popular phone. People outside of XDA don't buy a phone because it has killer features, or superior build quality, or the best camera; they buy a phone because the marketing department said it was the best phone on the market, plain and simple. If HTC wants to catch up, all they need to do is change the look of the M10 and focus on marketing it heavily. HTC has been building top tier smartphones for some time now and they have lost the market game to Samsung and Apple every year.
And also, don't think for a minute that other manufacturers will not pay for negative press on competing phones. They know that public perception is what drives public reception. I am quite certain that Samsung "influenced" atleast a few of the bad review that the M9 received. I am the proud owner of an M9 and although it hasn't been the best phone that I have ever owned, it is FAR from as bad as some of the reviews made it out to be; but if you read the reviews and base your phone decision off of them, you would think the M9 was a piece of junk to be avoided.
All HTC needs to do is figure out some hip gimmicks and marketing (not for us, but for the public), and they will be just fine.
Htc is for people who don't want to go with the sheep of the phone world, plus once you've had a decent high end htc device you'll always be looking back if you switch to let's say a Samsung or an apple device. They're always really close to getting it perfect, this time round it's obviously the camera which is still good but you need to tweak it a bit, personally I'd always chose htc, they're great phones, especially since the m7.
In terms of overall sales, no they're not doing as well as Samsung and apple, bare in mind though that Apple and samsung sell lots of other devices besides phones, htc do not. A fresh approach needs to happen in terms of marketing, and a thoroughly tested flagship with every angle covered, plus I don't think it's necessary for them to release several phones per year. A flag ship and a budget phone would suffice, allowing them to optimise the devices properly. Having an E an E+ an m9 and an m9+ with desires popping up all over the place for me is far too much.
Time will tell, but I don't think they're down and out.
This is my sixth HTC phone and still happy with it. Sad though they can't keep up with the telecom market nowadays.. I would say HTC ain't dead, but it had its better days. Hopefully they strike back with a stunning 2016 flagship. They really deserve a better position or either everybody's attention like last year with the m8 in my opinion
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