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Anyone know if any Metro apps are being created specifically for the Metro UI in Windows 8?
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yes, in visual studio beta 11 you can make metro appsfor windows 8 only
google is working on a version of chrome for metro as is mozilla with firefox. I'd say it's safe to say that you can expect an official facebook and twitter clients as well.
Look for developers that have cross platform support in the mobile world and it's probably safe to assume that most popular multi platform apps will get a metro app in the coming months.
Here's one I know for a fact that I know most of you won't care about; EnergyPro, an energy analysis tool for buildings (used a ton in the design part of the construction industry)
The next version will be available for Windows, Windows 8 (as a metro app), and Ipad. They are also looking into an android tablet port. How do I know this? I talked with one of the designers of the software last week at a seminar. They're looking to expand cross-platform more.
Funnily enough, they still have no interest in making an OSX app, because "pretty much everyone who has a Mac has some way of running windows software on it"
Hello I am looking at windows 8 from an It perspective and was wondering if there is any way of changing home screen to a more familiar UI (Windows 7).
There is, I don't remember the exact steps, but there's a thread in the other section of the forum for Win8 where it teaches you how to edit one registry and completely disables metro
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You might be better off just limiting the apps that appear on the Start Screen--e.g. Desktop, classic IE (or Firefox, Chrome etc), Explorer and so on.
Metro is the future. There's no point in upgrading to Windows 8 if you're just going to neuter it. It's not going anywhere. So, people might as well get used to it.
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You might be better off just limiting the apps that appear on the Start Screen--e.g. Desktop, classic IE (or Firefox, Chrome etc), Explorer and so on.
Metro is the future. There's no point in upgrading to Windows 8 if you're just going to neuter it. It's not going anywhere. So, people might as well get used to it.
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...:ROFL: umm WRONG! ever heard of VISTA or ME?... It will get dumped...
Great UI for phones, tablets, does not mean great UI for productivity based computing environments...
I'll just leave this here http://goo.gl/46gY1
Don't get me wrong I'll play with it but it's going back in the toy box when I'm done, along with all those
children's playthings runing iOS... BTW notice how OSX is not running in an environment that that looks
like an iPhone...
earmuffs said:
...:ROFL: umm WRONG! ever heard of VISTA or ME?... It will get dumped...
Great UI for phones, tablets, does not mean great UI for productivity based computing environments...
I'll just leave this here http://goo.gl/46gY1
Don't get me wrong I'll play with it but it's going back in the toy box when I'm done, along with all those
children's playthings runing iOS... BTW notice how OSX is not running in an environment that that looks
like an iPhone...
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Apple have no problem selling Iphones though lol It's clear that windows 8 is microsofts last gasp effort to push it's mobile OS and try and catch up with Android/IOS. In my opinion for the first time ever MS have left thereselves open to serious competition on the Desktop OS market. As it stands it has no serious competition, but someone like google could quite easly decide to drop chromium OS and develop a real linux based Desktop OS. MS then could find themselves in trouble.
I sure hope this active desktop is disabled for the desktop version... I think we may soon have a battle of OS's soon. Especially if this is the final version the new UI it cluttered and I would expect more from Microsoft like a brand new concept for the whole system they've had over 23 years...... and it feels and look just like it did in windows v 3 but with better settings....
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Honestly, it looks better than 3.1, they also did not remove any of the previous functions, they just moved them around. I just wish people would be more open minded about getting something new rather than just have something with a new visual style or paint job. I applaud Microsoft for trying to go with a unified UI throughout their platforms, certainly a great way to reinvent something that's been around since Windows 95.
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xXy3kXx said:
I sure hope this active desktop is disabled for the desktop version... I think we may soon have a battle of OS's soon. Especially if this is the final version the new UI it cluttered and I would expect more from Microsoft like a brand new concept for the whole system they've had over 23 years...... and it feels and look just like it did in windows v 3 but with better settings....
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that was very difficult to read... :/
a brand new concept for the whole system (UI)? what, like Metro?
the issue is backward compatibility, MS is a legend for keeping it, but it can also have its downside, meaning its not always possible to completely reinvent something.
But that's beside the point, Metro and Desktop Do work great together on a desktop PC and Metro is amazing on a tablet so, just takes an open mind and a it of getting used to.
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that was very difficult to read... :/
a brand new concept for the whole system (UI)? what, like Metro?
the issue is backward compatibility, MS is a legend for keeping it, but it can also have its downside, meaning its not always possible to completely reinvent something.
But that's beside the point, Metro and Desktop Do work great together on a desktop PC and Metro is amazing on a tablet so, just takes an open mind and a it of getting used to.
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Well said dazza9075, Windows 8 is a beautiful OS but the user interface you have to look at with open mind. After using it as my main OS on both my Dell E6410, My HP ZD7249Cl and my Home built Desktop I thought I would never move away from Windows 7 but it grows on you very quickly. Now when I do use windows 7 I find my self trying to do mouse gestures that windows 7 cant do.
*sitting in class taking notes or working* "Why wont the charms bar come up, I want to put my computer to sleep... Oh wait this is Windows 7"
Before I start please know that I've been a MS fan since my first desktop running Win98 and also loved MS phones when it was called 'Windows Mobile'.
I've just installed the W8 Consumer Preview out of curiosity and the beautiful Metro UI. Now, I'm a big fan of the Metro UI but not on my desktop PC please!
I'm a gfx/web designer I spend hours on PC everyday and the whole Metro and Desktop thing going on here makes me wanna kill someone!
It's hard multitasking and not that productive either. First, I blame Facebook for the whole "share" thing going on! and finally Apple's "great" iphone for this don't ask me why. If you just connect all the dots since the iphone's release you can understand how every apple competitor tried to turn their products more simpler or iphone'ish and that's the bitter truth though I absolutely hate that piece of crap!
It's like history repeating itself. How Microsoft lost all their "Windows Mobile" customers(including me) and market share when they introduced new WP7. They went average to worse! Previous "Windows Mobile" tech savvy's or a power user like me switched to Android and rest iphones.
Clearly, that was a wrong move by MS, they took risk with something new instead of improving what they already have with the "Windows Mobile".
In present, MS wants to make WP7 successful so they're feeding their successful huge community of PC users with their touch/portable OS crap! **** I even hate the term "Apps" now!! I want the gold old "softwares" back! Using W8 on my on 20" LED screen is a waste. Since the new Metro UI doesn't allow resizing any "Apps" or I cant keep more than 2 open. It's same as using apps on my 4" Android phone! Yes, I can work on the W8 stripped down desktop UI for a while but that just steals the experience when Metro is designed as the prime UI for W8.
I can just go on with the flaws! Never used an apple's product but now I'm seriously planning on switching to a MacBook pro until they plan to kill the desktop experience too.
No, I don't care if its just a consumer preview or whatever. Previous Win OS beta builds and final builds never had huge noticeable differences. W8 looks like it was made out of frustration.
Of course I can stick to W7 but for how long ? it's gonna saturate at some point of time. W8 has changed everything including the MetroUI. Looks like MS is killing everything they created for themselves in past years even their company logo. And of course "Windows" was the biggest part of MS' success.
In future, can't imaging W9 switching back from Metro and bringing the pure desktop experience either. Right now can only hope.
This is just my assumption and opinion. Personally I'm an MS fan and never thought I'd critic MS like this.
Please share your thoughts
My thoughts are, I'm sticking with w7
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Personally I Loved The Metro Ui
It Just A Fantastic Ui
Even On NoN-TouchScreen
But I Think That Microsoft Should Add The Button "Enable/Disable Metro Ui"
For Desktop Fans !
bornotty said:
I can just go on with the flaws! Never used an apple's product but now I'm seriously planning on switching to a MacBook pro until they plan to kill the desktop experience too.
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Tons of alternatives to both (look up Ubuntu, perhaps). No reason to be worried.
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In future, can't imaging W9 switching back from Metro and bringing the pure desktop experience either. Right now can only hope.
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I agree; I think the temptation to try to bundle desktop with mobile will be too strong. The problem is the explosive growth of small devices, compared to the slacking growth of PCs.
The failure oft Ms ist, Thats they direct kill the Old style Startmenu. It would habe been a Wetter way Tod implement Metro as a Kind of Background replacement in an classic environment. So you would have the free choice of your Personal experience.
But wich the current way, you Are forced To Use the experience , they want .
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When in future Apple finally merge iOS + OS X , their users will welcome it with open arm and called it First + Magical.
and Microsoft deliver that experience TODAY without abandoning the "Desktop" , and yet so called " Microsoft Fan" whining every lame excuses to sabotage it.
Pathetic.
Arnt there enough "I h8 windows 8" threads already?!?
The basic function of the operating system are fundamentally the same. The start menus functionality is the same, it just looks different. The lost start button is replaced by a function tile in an identical place which works in the same way. The jumping in and out of the start menu is as quick as it ever was. The desktop works in the same way as it always did. Apps are on almost all platforms now.
So I guess I'm saying, I don't get you. Windows 7 will still exist, my god there are still people running vista & there were some real problems to complain about there.
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My biggest peeve so far is that it seems to ditch functionality in favor of flair.
I have no problem with a beautiful UI--but Metro is, on a rather consistent basis, slowing down my workflow.
For example, open settings in Metro, and you are greeted with a side tab with a few options: Settings, Help, Network, blah blah blah, and what's this? More settings.
When you click on settings, you get the Oh-so-useful options of "Enable Admin tools" and "Clear personal data". That's it. All that's there. You select more settings, and you get a proper settings menu. So why the hell are these separate? They really, REALLY thought we needed a whole menu entry for TWO FRIGGING TOGGLES? They even thought those two options were soooooo important that they assumed that's what you were looking for in the first place, and put them up top.
And why the hell isn't there just a simple "Settings" tile in the Metro start screen? That's what I would look for first--but no, you have to hover your mouse over the bottom right corner, then mouse up and click settings, only to be asked which of the two pointless menus you'd like to access. And if you really want to do anything worthwhile with your PC's settings, you're in the completely wrong frigging place, because Microsoft had the infinite foresight to make the control panel completely separate from the settings menu.
I hate the start up screen and how it makes me grab the screen with the mouse like a touch screen to get it out of the way.
I hate how it hooks me up completely to MSN, making me log into my desktop and MSN at the same time.
I hate how unintuitive the mash of Metro and Desktop is. If you open IE from Metro and IE from the Desktop - why do they launch separate instances that don't look the same, act the same...it is pure garbage.
The list goes on and on... but lets run into the first three things I found WRONG in the first 30 seconds.
Simply avoid Metro UI as much as possible if you're using your PC for highly productive work. While Metro UI is great for entertaining, e.g. reading books, watching movies, social network etc. it simply cannot handle multiple tasks at the same time.
I don't work on Metro UI either, but now I've got used to staying with the classic UI. The only thing that's still frustrating is some great features can only be found in Metro style. Like skydrive integration, mail and people etc. I wish there were equivalent applications on classic desktop, so I don't have to switch between two interfaces from time to time.
Sorry to hear your disappointment. I actually like the Metro UI. I give MS credit for doing something different instead of re-hashing to same old user interface.
Only issue so far is jumping back and forth between Metro and old Win7 style. Nevertheless, to each his own.
dialupboy said:
When in future Apple finally merge iOS + OS X , their users will welcome it with open arm and called it First + Magical.
and Microsoft deliver that experience TODAY without abandoning the "Desktop" , and yet so called " Microsoft Fan" whining every lame excuses to sabotage it.
Pathetic.
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Im an MS customer I don't care what other companies are inventing and what crown they're taking, I care about what I'm paying for.
And I don't think you've actually used the new W8. I'm not "whining" for excuses which are "lame" to you. I've got my facts cleared up for everyone.
Looking at your post it just shows you can only debate on a "fanboy war" which this thread is not clearly meant for. That's Pathetic.
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Lol this like the other 20 "I hate windows 8" posts are all just troll boards. You may be clear on your "facts" but your facts arnt facts, there opinions, & you know what they say about opinions "opinions are like arseholes, everyone got them!
Come on mods, lock this thread! There are enough Microsoft sucks threads already.
I personally come to xda dev for answers not opinions. You don't like windows 8, fine, don't buy it. Just leave us folks to discuss real issues (harware/software) conflicts and solutions.
bornotty said:
Im an MS customer I don't care what other companies are inventing and what crown they're taking, I care about what I'm paying for.
And I don't think you've actually used the new W8. I'm not "whining" for excuses which are "lame" to you. I've got my facts cleared up for everyone.
Looking at your post it just shows you can only debate on a "fanboy war" which this thread is not clearly meant for. That's Pathetic.
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bah I AM using it on my pc with kb and mouse, I don't see "the problems" , it is fast , easy to use , sure you need to learn new things, but I am sure 8 years old kid wont have problem with the new stuff. You and others like you are just whiners, Pathetic.
i never understood why almost every os had a start-menu-like button in one of its corners. it has never been user friendly, klicking and klicking and more and more "apps" Pop up it's getting confusing. that has never been intuitiv from the beginnung and just got it because we were used to it. and it was kind of stupid, why just using a small part of the screen for one of the most importing tasks: getting an app/program/software started.
i love the new Metro ui, even on the pc. and your just one click away from a Desktop-similar experience so wtf is everybody worrying about?
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You don't like windows 8, fine, don't buy it.
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That's kinda hard considering how hard windows gets bundled with new computers, and how questionable the options are for getting a refund.
For me it's great so far
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When you click on settings, you get the Oh-so-useful options of "Enable Admin tools" and "Clear personal data". That's it. All that's there. You select more settings, and you get a proper settings menu. So why the hell are these separate? They really, REALLY thought we needed a whole menu entry for TWO FRIGGING TOGGLES? They even thought those two options were soooooo important that they assumed that's what you were looking for in the first place, and put them up top.
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Because that's the general settings section for each application and not for the entire system. It saves you from searching for the settings menu for each app. So it's more integrated into the Metro-UI. It is quite convinient.
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That's kinda hard considering how hard windows gets bundled with new computers, and how questionable the options are for getting a refund.
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Don't buy from Dell etc. Build your own and download Ubuntu etc. I've never HAD to buy an operating system & all the companies that preinstall windows sell over priced rubbish anyway.
So now that 8 is out, can anyone give a short list already of annoyances you've found, any carried over from Windows 7 or XP?
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So now that 8 is out, can anyone give a short list already of annoyances you've found, any carried over from Windows 7 or XP?
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You're posting this in totally the wrong place, so it will be moved or deleted, but ... Windows 8 is cr4p. No gain over 7 unless you have a touch-screen PC. There is no 'Start' button on the desktop so you have to pay to buy one from another software company. A load of drivers don't work on Windows 8 and there seems to be no rush to fix ...
In summary - avoid it. Businesses have already decided to skip this version.
Metro UI on any device without a touch screen and no Start button or menu. It seems Microsoft thinks its a great idea to not let the consumer choose to either have a start menu or use its craptro UI.
One annoyance of mine is the activation of the toolbar/ribbon from the start page to access the shut down/restart menu. I have a dual monitor setup and my mouse continues to the next screen instead of activating the hot corner.
Use [Win]+i to open the Settings charm, from where it's easy to access the Power options or other settings. Alternatively, [Win]+c opens the Charms bar in general. No need to use the hot corners.
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One annoyance of mine is the activation of the toolbar/ribbon from the start page to access the shut down/restart menu. I have a dual monitor setup and my mouse continues to the next screen instead of activating the hot corner.
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another tip for hot corners is to slightly offset the monitor in display config, lift the monitor a fraction, when you move the mouse to the corner you will hit a "wall" allowing it to work. But keyboard short cuts are where we should all be at, its so much simpler
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Metro UI on any device without a touch screen and no Start button or menu. It seems Microsoft thinks its a great idea to not let the consumer choose to either have a start menu or use its ******** UI.
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I don't have this issues and I don't have touch, the new start menu which is what it is, and is even called that in serveral places within the OS IS the metro interface, yes the button has gone but clicking where the button used to be will bring up the start menu
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You're posting this in totally the wrong place, so it will be moved or deleted, but ... Windows 8 is cr4p. No gain over 7 unless you have a touch-screen PC. There is no 'Start' button on the desktop so you have to pay to buy one from another software company. A load of drivers don't work on Windows 8 and there seems to be no rush to fix ...
In summary - avoid it. Businesses have already decided to skip this version.
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What are you basing that on?? I think you are giving a personal opinion rather than professional advice.Windows 8 is not bad,and definitely not crap.Just accept change and learn the metro ui.Its very good once you get to know it.And by the way,there is a app called pokki which gives you back the start menu and its free! It also gives you an option to boot to desktop.Has microsoft ever disappointed users so far? Driver support will be added.Windows 8 hardly released bro chill.....skipping windows 8 will not help ..
In all likelihood microsoft will not continue development of a desktop ui version of windows...its all metro from now on.Theres a lot to like about windows 8 if you are adaptive
Please dont post such posts which dont have any fact behind them...
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What are you basing that on?? I think you are giving a personal opinion rather than professional advice.Windows 8 is not bad,and definitely not crap.Just accept change and learn the metro ui.Its very good once you get to know it.And by the way,there is a app called pokki which gives you back the start menu and its free! It also gives you an option to boot to desktop.Has microsoft ever disappointed users so far? Driver support will be added.Windows 8 hardly released bro chill.....skipping windows 8 will not help ..
In all likelihood microsoft will not continue development of a desktop ui version of windows...its all metro from now on.Theres a lot to like about windows 8 if you are adaptive
Please dont post such posts which dont have any fact behind them...
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It is not simply a personal opinion. If you actually bothered reading any of the industry reviews then you would discover 90% of businesses are going to stick with Windows 7 because Windows 8 is such a mess. You are purely looking at this from the point of view of a home-user, but Microsoft makes most of its money from the business customers and they are voting with their wallets right now.
As for "Please dont post such posts which dont have any fact behind them..." - I would suggest you wind your neck in before your head gets taken off. I don't know who the f**k you think you are, but I am entitled to my opinion and I have a damn site more experience in this than you do.
Lets all calm down, Xmas what a horrible time of year, we all get stressed out an every ones fuses are that bit shorter, why on earth do we bother with it all
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It is not simply a personal opinion. If you actually bothered reading any of the industry reviews then you would discover 90% of businesses are going to stick with Windows 7 because Windows 8 is such a mess. You are purely looking at this from the point of view of a home-user, but Microsoft makes most of its money from the business customers and they are voting with their wallets right now.
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I tend to agree that businesses have no particular need to upgrade. However the new systems are shipping with Windows 8 and there are add ons that enabled the start menu. One could argue that Windows 8 is more secure, because the desktop is running as a separate app under the Windows 8 interface. Windows 8 is fully compatible with network configurations and logins, so there is really no reason why businesses wouldn't accept it for new systems.
I have it running on my ultra portable, which came with a touch screen. It is surprisingly simple to use, but totally unnecessary as an upgrade to Windows 7. I generally go right to the desktop immediately, where all my applications reside. And the first thing I did was install a start button on the desktop!
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I tend to agree that businesses have no particular need to upgrade. However the new systems are shipping with Windows 8 and there are add ons that enabled the start menu. One could argue that Windows 8 is more secure, because the desktop is running as a separate app under the Windows 8 interface. Windows 8 is fully compatible with network configurations and logins, so there is really no reason why businesses wouldn't accept it for new systems.
I have it running on my ultra portable, which came with a touch screen. It is surprisingly simple to use, but totally unnecessary as an upgrade to Windows 7. I generally go right to the desktop immediately, where all my applications reside. And the first thing I did was install a start button on the desktop!
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Exactly. It isn't anything to jump on if you have a corporate budget to consider (enterprise licenses are expensive), but if you get it for free, have it bundled with a new computer, or in some cases for the $40 upgrade, it becomes feasible to get because it is all around a better OS. Businesses aren't sticking with 7 because they don't like 8. They are sticking with 7 because it works almost as well as 8 and is not worth upgrading for all of their systems at a couple hundred dollars per machine. The majority of businesses that adopt windows 8 will be those who still have xp and haven't upgraded to 7 because either way, they have to pay a hefty sum.
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Exactly. It isn't anything to jump on if you have a corporate budget to consider (enterprise licenses are expensive), but if you get it for free, have it bundled with a new computer, or in some cases for the $40 upgrade, it becomes feasible to get because it is all around a better OS. Businesses aren't sticking with 7 because they don't like 8. They are sticking with 7 because it works almost as well as 8 and is not worth upgrading for all of their systems at a couple hundred dollars per machine. The majority of businesses that adopt windows 8 will be those who still have xp and haven't upgraded to 7 because either way, they have to pay a hefty sum.
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I have a couple of people whom I am providing with consulting, and they are using Windows XP. I have suggested that they consider going to Windows 8 now, simply because it is so cheap at the moment, and MS is going to stop Win XP support in 2014.