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I wondered if any techies thought it would be likely that Windows Phone 7, Windows Mobile 6.5, Samsung Bada, Nokia MeeGo or other mobile OS's would be ported to the Tab. I think Ubuntu Netbook Edition is certainly likely.
Oh, asking "why would you want to replace Android?!" is a different topic.
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I'm grown to like Android so much as to do things the other way around (try to fit android to any number of other devices), but I think the two most interesting (and perhaps obvious) choices would be MeeGo and ChromeOS.
Yeah, I would definitely be interested in ChromeOS or a netbook linux distro rather than another mobile OS. I bet that there will be plenty of people trying to get linux on it, because people always wanna run linux on everything
What would be PERFECT to my mind, would be being able to dual boot.
Android for when its a phone, and a micro-desktop OS for when I wanna work on it. Stick it on the keyboard dock and add a bluetooth mouse and that'd be sexy. Hell, as long as you saved any documents to SD card you'd still be able to pull them up in droid.
Now all we need is some seriously smart people to make it happen
I don't know why Bada is on that list as it is not really a smartphone os(it more akin to a higher end/smarter feature phone os), and I doubt it would translate well to the Galaxy Tab.
I kind of want to see it running the latest version of Windows CE or Embedded in a dual boot setup with Android. Or some version of Ubuntu(maybe in a newer Mint variant).
Windows Mobile 6.x would be the best alternate.
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Windows Mobile 6.x would be the best alternate.
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Is that just personal preference, or is there a specific feature you think would work well on the Tab ?
Windows 7 on Galaxy Tab
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RS4UOK-pyRg
But this is only a remote desktop.you can do it now with remote RDP or LotMeIn Ignition
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I'd love to see WinMo 6.5 and some Linux Distro, but my pipedream would absolutely be Windows 98 - I know, lol98, but I would go absolutely crazy if I could run some Visual Novels on it without having to remote desktop.
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I'd love to see WinMo 6.5 and some Linux Distro, but my pipedream would absolutely be Windows 98 - I know, lol98, but I would go absolutely crazy if I could run some Visual Novels on it without having to remote desktop.
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It's seriously unlikely that we'll see a windows desktop OS on the tab. Its the problem with closed-source code. It'd take very significant patching to get it to run on the Tab, and then you couldn't legally distribute the full OS. You could make a patcher/installer, but it would require anyone who wanted to use it to use full version of windows as an installer.
In all honesty, I wouldn't get your hopes up over installing any (significant) programs that don't come with a desktop OS anyway. Sure, theres no problems with bundled stuff, so you can expect office, email, browser, IM, minesweeper etc. But running anything more complex will start to bring up problems, first due to the lack of available resources (1ghz and 512 of ram is rather anemic) and secondly because its tricky to get things to run on unfamiliar architectures.
In theory, you have the chance to do some really cool stuff (some retro command and conquer on the tab... Or Baldurs Gate) but I wouldn't hold out hope.
But you never know.
Those Linux guys are CRAZY smart. A little win95/DOS emulation later, and maybe you could do whatever you want. *shrug*.
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Wasn't there someone who installed win95 on a nexus one ? You had to install it via dosbox and even then you could only get to it via remote desktop, but it did run. So maybe I'm being too negative. However, don't expect it to be an easy ride lol. Then again, it all depends on how many of these Samsung actually sell.
If they do (somehow) manage to get up to 10mil of these in circulation then there will be a massive dev community to try and make cool stuff for them.
Yeah, that's why I called it a pipe dream - unfortunately most of the visual novels I'd love to play are windows 98+ even if 95 got up. Everything else I'd want to do could be covered by WinMo (coreplayer is love) and Android (Galaxy native divx decoding <3)
IIRC the Samsung Galaxy S series has sold 5 million worldwide last time we heard - since it's essentially the same thing sans resolution I would expect some serious development stuff going on within a few months... I hope.
If I must, I will shell out for remote desktop software, but I'd really rather not if there's other options. Music on top of other stuff doesn't stream well enough through 3G
Windows Mobile 6.5.X is what I voted though.
Ubuntu 10.10 Netbook remix looks good for touch screen.
Hello I am looking at windows 8 from an It perspective and was wondering if there is any way of changing home screen to a more familiar UI (Windows 7).
There is, I don't remember the exact steps, but there's a thread in the other section of the forum for Win8 where it teaches you how to edit one registry and completely disables metro
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http://www.addictivetips.com/window...-menu-explorer-and-task-manager-in-windows-8/
You might be better off just limiting the apps that appear on the Start Screen--e.g. Desktop, classic IE (or Firefox, Chrome etc), Explorer and so on.
Metro is the future. There's no point in upgrading to Windows 8 if you're just going to neuter it. It's not going anywhere. So, people might as well get used to it.
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You might be better off just limiting the apps that appear on the Start Screen--e.g. Desktop, classic IE (or Firefox, Chrome etc), Explorer and so on.
Metro is the future. There's no point in upgrading to Windows 8 if you're just going to neuter it. It's not going anywhere. So, people might as well get used to it.
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...:ROFL: umm WRONG! ever heard of VISTA or ME?... It will get dumped...
Great UI for phones, tablets, does not mean great UI for productivity based computing environments...
I'll just leave this here http://goo.gl/46gY1
Don't get me wrong I'll play with it but it's going back in the toy box when I'm done, along with all those
children's playthings runing iOS... BTW notice how OSX is not running in an environment that that looks
like an iPhone...
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...:ROFL: umm WRONG! ever heard of VISTA or ME?... It will get dumped...
Great UI for phones, tablets, does not mean great UI for productivity based computing environments...
I'll just leave this here http://goo.gl/46gY1
Don't get me wrong I'll play with it but it's going back in the toy box when I'm done, along with all those
children's playthings runing iOS... BTW notice how OSX is not running in an environment that that looks
like an iPhone...
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Apple have no problem selling Iphones though lol It's clear that windows 8 is microsofts last gasp effort to push it's mobile OS and try and catch up with Android/IOS. In my opinion for the first time ever MS have left thereselves open to serious competition on the Desktop OS market. As it stands it has no serious competition, but someone like google could quite easly decide to drop chromium OS and develop a real linux based Desktop OS. MS then could find themselves in trouble.
Well win8 been out some time one would expect some demo metro apps to be out there or the least here but nothing?
I know MS will not start win8 marketplace for some time to come but when was that an issue?
I can't find any METRO UI apps on the web too...
You will have to wait til after the deadline of the MS challenge. There will be some cool apps coming up soon.
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Well win8 been out some time one would expect some demo metro apps to be out there or the least here but nothing?
I know MS will not start win8 marketplace for some time to come but when was that an issue?
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Is there a date for developers when the marketplace "beta" will go live, so we can publish our apps or at least test the marketplace integration ?
The reason for "no Metro apps on the web" is just simple.
There is not even a beta online of Windows 8 which means that a beta store would be useless for now. So no one can develop apps right now.
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The reason for "no Metro apps on the web" is just simple.
There is not even a beta online of Windows 8 which means that a beta store would be useless for now. So no one can develop apps right now.
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Yyy developer preview + win8 SDK was clearly released for one reason only to develops apps and test them.
Even though people may have been working on applications for the Windows 8 metro library, it isn't commercially available, and most people who are currently using it are other developers or technical enthusiasts who won't be interested in their angry birds port or something stupid like that. And I've found one or two out there myself, but they're mostly just stupid calculator apps or calendar apps, stuff that's already included in the ISO, essentially.
At least that's my opinion.
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Even though people may have been working on applications for the Windows 8 metro library, it isn't commercially available, and most people who are currently using it are other developers or technical enthusiasts who won't be interested in their angry birds port or something stupid like that. And I've found one or two out there myself, but they're mostly just stupid calculator apps or calendar apps, stuff that's already included in the ISO, essentially.
At least that's my opinion.
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Beta apps could be released for enthusiasts to test. I am not talking angry birds. A unit converter or calculator that is on metro as tile ready to use and so on.
Good: Most functionality from x86 remain. Verge said no WMP in desktop, only in Metro. And no legacy apps, of course. Office RT Preview looks good (given that it's free), albeit you'll need a KB/mouse setup. Looks just like Win8 all-around.
Bad: No accelerometer?! Well, at least the Surface RT has it.
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Good: Most functionality from x86 remain. Verge said no WMP in desktop, only in Metro. And no legacy apps, of course. Office RT Preview looks good (given that it's free), albeit you'll need a KB/mouse setup. Looks just like Win8 all-around.
Bad: No accelerometer?! Well, at least the Surface RT has it.
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There's a chance. That slim possibility of running cross-compiled desktop apps..... Maybe, just maybe.
So... desktop view works on RT, this is a go
Now I will really be buying the Surface, also you can put the Surface in 0 and 90 grades angles in the dock so it makes it even better.
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Another brief tour of WinRT, this time going through Word 2013 Preview. But more noteworthy is that windowing function in desktop mode is still the same as ever (1:25 mark), ie you can move/resize/overlap windows to any degree.
The main takeway is that WinRT is basically same as Win8 x86 w/o the legacy apps, in exchange for a lower price and free Office. (I hope MS shrinks the footprint, and dumps WinSxS.) The second takeway is that despite all the Metro hubbub, if you want to get real work done, it still takes a mouse & keyboard.
Am hoping sideloading will be achieved quickly, and that 3rd-parties will support desktop mode with cross-compiled apps as phail pal said.
Oh yah and hoping MS goes ahead with that $199 Surface RT!
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Another brief tour of WinRT, this time going through Word 2013 Preview. But more noteworthy is that windowing function in desktop mode is still the same as ever (1:25 mark), ie you can move/resize/overlap windows to any degree.
The main takeway is that WinRT is basically same as Win8 x86 w/o the legacy apps, in exchange for a lower price and free Office. (I hope MS shrinks the footprint, and dumps WinSxS.) The second takeway is that despite all the Metro hubbub, if you want to get real work done, it still takes a mouse & keyboard.
Am hoping sideloading will be achieved quickly, and that 3rd-parties will support desktop mode with cross-compiled apps as phail pal said.
Oh yah and hoping MS goes ahead with that $199 Surface RT!
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My.. there it is! the desktop! and FILES! LOL. I like this, I wish I can be at USA when it goes out to make the line with others to buy it, but I will have to tell somebody to buy me one and send it to DR crap!..
There will be an accelerometer. That is a requirement of windows RT
I'm kind of surprised he wasted an opportunity with Windows RT in the desktop. There so many questions regarding metro performance and resource footprint that he could have addressed.
Some more looks at WinRT desktop (and tech stuff).
Storage & OS footprint: On this 32GB device, only 24GB is showing as available as a single C: drive, with 12GB of that used and 12GB remaining (2:02 mark). From this, I'm assuming the OS is stashed in a 8GB reserved partition, and the 12GB used is from Office and possible swap file. Total footprint: 20GB for WinRT + Office. On a 32GB device, that is a huge footprint and needs to be slimmed down much further.
MS Office 2013 has a touch mode that's disabled by default (why?). Enabling it means menu options are spaced further apart from each other, allowing for more surface area for touch input.
Another Verge vid shows that most of Win8's built-in apps & functions (except WordPad and WMP) are present in WinRT. Also, a look-see at Dev Mgr, showing the same WDDM 1.2 drivers as in Win8. Some of the driver dates are from 2006, which imply the drivers have not been reworked at all, but were simply recompiled (1:50 mark). This is certainly good news for porting to ARM.
All these indicate a work-in-progress for RT. One worry is that MS, in its push to standardize on Metro, will take measures to lock out the desktop. We'll see how it goes, but the above is a good step toward assuring users that RT won't be just a dumbed-down Windows.
The ZDNet article talking about these two videos is here, and contain a few more insights.
http://www.zdnet.com/hands-on-with-windows-rt-finally-7000003589/
The more I watch it, the more I like it. Windows 8 is awesome, fast, smooth and safe. =]
I got very excited about the "desktop mode" in RT, but then I remembered about this:
"heavily-restricted "desktop" mode that will run only Microsoft code...[such as] Word, Excel, PowerPoint...[and] Internet Explorer."
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I got very excited about the "desktop mode" in RT, but then I remembered about this:
"heavily-restricted "desktop" mode that will run only Microsoft code...[such as] Word, Excel, PowerPoint...[and] Internet Explorer."
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Droff said:
I got very excited about the "desktop mode" in RT, but then I remembered about this:
"heavily-restricted "desktop" mode that will run only Microsoft code...[such as] Word, Excel, PowerPoint...[and] Internet Explorer."
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Source?
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Source?
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Microsoft blog
Chillingly Based said:
Microsoft blog
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Droff said:
I got very excited about the "desktop mode" in RT, but then I remembered about this:
"heavily-restricted "desktop" mode that will run only Microsoft code...[such as] Word, Excel, PowerPoint...[and] Internet Explorer."
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This will only apply for about the first week.
Once the people who make software start to build for Windows 8, most apps like for example VLC and so on upload to the app store, most apps will cross compile in the cloud.
That was stated at the launch event.
So it means something like VLC could hit Windows 8 x86/RT/ and Windows Phone 8.
In under 6 months I can see having about 90% of the use of a full PC on RT.
I could find that handy to have an arm based Win Tab, with a dumb version of Photoshop to edit a picture on the fly, hot spot my phone and upload on the go.
My dream is a Nokia Tablet (MS Surface as 2nd pick), my HTC Radar ( with 7.8), and my Canon Digi, all able to fit in my Motor bike Case.
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This will only apply for about the first week.
Once the people who make software start to build for Windows 8, most apps like for example VLC and so on upload to the app store, most apps will cross compile in the cloud.
That was stated at the launch event.
So it means something like VLC could hit Windows 8 x86/RT/ and Windows Phone 8.
In under 6 months I can see having about 90% of the use of a full PC on RT.
Case.
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Well, it's not been confirmed whether there will be desktop development allowed on Windows RT devices. If it is allowed, then I totally agree with you. We'll see a deluge of desktop apps recompiled to target ARM desktop. If it is not allowed(most likely) then Windows RT devices are worthless.
I dont think they intend At this point to Allow desktop apps in windows rt, however apparently a large amount of the windows 8 rt (metro) apps will be cross platform, working on both arm and x86
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There will be, just wait until Windows RT is out, and give it 2 weeks or so.
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It was made very clear, at both the Surface launch, and again at WP8 launch, because of the shared bits and common code that apps will cross platform.
If I am not mistaken the statement was " build once and compile for all"
The developer tools will cover all 3 platforms in 1 program.
It also means because of the common code, if the builders of apps for iphone and android want to add users they can use almost the same code.
So the things you like on your PC, once built for Metro will show up on all 3 platforms, or just the PC and RT.
I truly think this is the call of the developer and not MS. As the developer will pick what platform to compile for.
So in time you will see Firefox, Chrome....PJ64, Nes.....Photoshop,Video Edit...multi format media player like VLC or Real Player.
It is just up to someone out on the internet to click the button and send the uplaod.
If your unsure, go back and watch the Surface launch, I am sure it is said a few times.
>Well, it's not been confirmed whether there will be desktop development allowed on Windows RT devices...If it is not allowed(most likely) then Windows RT devices are worthless.
Metro can't replace the desktop for productivity, so unless MS wants RT to fail out of the gate, RT can't and won't be restricted to just Metro apps. RT will have an uphill battle as it is to get any traction, with no Metro apps to speak of, and having to compete against iPad and cheap Android tabs. Restricting RT to just Metro (and Office) is just plain stupid.
Second, I find it humorous that MS would be able to "restrict" desktop development, or for that matter forcing every vendor to use only the MS app store to sell their wares (and for MS to get its 30 or 20% cut). Windows is still a monopoly, and that would be the first thing vendors will scream about. That, and hobbyist devs (read: XDA types) will do whatever they want to do.
>It also means because of the common code, if the builders of apps for iphone and android want to add users they can use almost the same code.
That's the MS pitch for pushing Metro. However, for the immediate future, RT and WP8 are insignificant entities, and cross-platform isn't a pressing need. Metro's positives have to be weighed against its negatives, and the big one for now is that it can't do desktop (productivity) applications. Cross-platform doesn't matter unless that's resolved.
Windows 8 isn't a finished product, despite the RTM tag. Much will have to change. Either MS needs to do the desktop/Metro integration much better, or Metro will have to grow up. As it stands, I don't see anything as being cast in stone, MS' decrees notwithstanding.
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>Well, it's not been confirmed whether there will be desktop development allowed on Windows RT devices...If it is not allowed(most likely) then Windows RT devices are worthless.
Metro can't replace the desktop for productivity, so unless MS wants RT to fail out of the gate, RT can't and won't be restricted to just Metro apps. RT will have an uphill battle as it is to get any traction, with no Metro apps to speak of, and having to compete against iPad and cheap Android tabs. Restricting RT to just Metro (and Office) is just plain stupid.
Second, I find it humorous that MS would be able to "restrict" desktop development, or for that matter forcing every vendor to use only the MS app store to sell their wares (and for MS to get its 30 or 20% cut). Windows is still a monopoly, and that would be the first thing vendors will scream about. That, and hobbyist devs (read: XDA types) will do whatever they want to do.
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I totally agree with you, but considering all of the bull MS reps have been spewing, anything can happen, including locking down the desktop on RT. Also, windows RT isn't windows anymore(according to MS), so there's no worries about a monopoly.
Still, I'm hoping for an open desktop on RT that will quickly fill up with powerful desktop apps.
I'm looking at the 950XL as it seems to have all the specs of the Nexus 6P but also includes USB 3.1, which is very important to me (I currently have a Note 3 which needs upgrading).
Project Astoria quite interests me; can you use any Android App with this, or just certain ones?
One thing I like about Android is the ability to flash ROMs; I don't think there's anything like this with Windows is there?
(Slightly dodgy topic to talk about) On Android I can just search for an app adding the word 'apk' on Google and download it for free. Is there anyway to do this on Windows?
I used to run Windows Mobile and before that Windows CE, before switching to Android
I just saw your question. Here is some of what I know. As of right now there is an app called 'bluestack' that allows you to run apks as if on android with google services this is a win 8 app though.
There are plus' and minus' here.
1. The feature that makes what you that interested in are win universal apps. That announced by MS is supposed to be repackaged Android apks and converted to universal apps. They then would use Windows services. (a minus or a plus depending on preferences)
2. Blue stack (and its alternatives)may need to be updated to a win 10 universal app. The biggest upside to the 950/xl are that dual booting maybe possible. And a full emulation is possible almost like having 2 phones in one. I say that because of how windows runs or promises to run. With win10 it should be a hackers/tinkerers/dev dream. Leading to more of the apps you may want to port over.
3. Porting maybe possible with the tools MS provide. You maybe able to repackage apks on your own into win10 universal apps.
4.this is the last thing. You maybe able to enjoy 3rd party win10 apps. There are alternatives to twitter for example on windows but no actual Twitter app which some say are better than Twitter's actual app. Also some reporters have said that microsoft are offer to build apps(official) for companies like Twitter and then hand it over to them and they then take over maintenance. But that hasn't worked so far.
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Many thanks for your reply. I've been reading a lot, trying to get my head around the new Windows Phone experience. It seems vastly different from what I used to have on my HTC HD2, which was my last Windows Phone.
One app I use a lot and I find useful is Truecaller, it tells you who's calling, even if you don't have their number in your phone. I presume this needs some sort of integration with the OS. I wonder if Project Astoria offers this level of integration.
My last windows phone was also the HD2 and I've used android ever since. I recently bought a lumia so I could try windows 10 preview. There are a couple of things I miss:
- the ability to transfer files to/from my NAS through WiFi without having to go through a pc
- swipe keyboard doesn't work in some places, eg works in messaging but not in browser
- android .nomedia facility
- banking - my bank is HSBC and they don't have a windows app
If the 950x windows 10 version fixes the first two of these then that will be my next phone.
My banking app also isnt on WP10.
I also like to use DOSbox to play old games on my phone.
Also Torque for hooking up to cars ECU via a bluetooth OBD2 reader.
No Starbucks app
I also use my LG Gwatch to receive notification on my wrist at work. As Im not allowed to get my phone, this is a very very handy feature for me.
I think I'm too invested in Android right now. I am a real Windows 10 Phone wannabe though. I wish I could afford both the Nexus 6P and Lumia 950XL.
Windows Lumia 950xl check every check in the box for what i want in a smartphone on the hardware side... But my issues is that i know that you can port apps over but how many official apps from ios and android made it to the windows store. Once they have app they will have me as a new consumer
https://youtu.be/P2wKJK5cr3M
https://youtu.be/Eu3EMS4dvv8
Look at these vids, they can give you an idea of what to expect with w10 mobile
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Hey folks,
I figured this thread would be a good place to ask since it already existed. A little background. I'm a heavily entrenched Android user since the Evo 4G days and have service with several telecoms and own several phones as well. I saw the new presentation and I was really impressed, however, I need some help to see if the switch is right for me.
1) I use Google Voice to manage all of my numbers and phones. I heard that Skype doesn't allow number Port In, however, does allow forwarding. Does anyone know if this is true? Why don't they allow number Port In? Is it coming in the future? Any creative solutions around this?
2) I don't own a P.C., so Continuum really intrigues me. I've always owned PlayStation and loved being able to stream my PlayStation to my Sony phones and play remotely. Would I be able to stream XBoxOne to my phone and use Continuum to play on a monitor? What about streaming to a T.V. for Netflix or other apps like that?
3) I'm really interested in turning my home "smart". I know that Android has a big IoT platform and it'll be great with NEST and the other things they have coming down the pipeline. What about Windows? Is there a platform available? What products support it? Can it all be phone controlled and do apps exist for them?
Any insight would be greatly appreciated as I'm sure there are others in my boat who might have similar questions.
http://www.technobuffalo.com/2015/09/18/elephone-vowney-dual-boots-android-and-windows-10-for-299/
Guys i thought this may also be useful to keep in mind. There maybe a US compatible version at some point.
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Hey folks,
I figured this thread would be a good place to ask since it already existed. A little background. I'm a heavily entrenched Android user since the Evo 4G days and have service with several telecoms and own several phones as well. I saw the new presentation and I was really impressed, however, I need some help to see if the switch is right for me.
1) I use Google Voice to manage all of my numbers and phones. I heard that Skype doesn't allow number Port In, however, does allow forwarding. Does anyone know if this is true? Why don't they allow number Port In? Is it coming in the future? Any creative solutions around this?
2) I don't own a P.C., so Continuum really intrigues me. I've always owned PlayStation and loved being able to stream my PlayStation to my Sony phones and play remotely. Would I be able to stream XBoxOne to my phone and use Continuum to play on a monitor? What about streaming to a T.V. for Netflix or other apps like that?
3) I'm really interested in turning my home "smart". I know that Android has a big IoT platform and it'll be great with NEST and the other things they have coming down the pipeline. What about Windows? Is there a platform available? What products support it? Can it all be phone controlled and do apps exist for them?
Any insight would be greatly appreciated as I'm sure there are others in my boat who might have similar questions.
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So in theory you can do this with windows phone right now. remember one windows isn't anything new. windows 8.1 is on the xbox one. And you can use the pass through feature on any windows device. On windows 10, its all the same, even on mobile because on phone it is full windows running (just slightly different ui, right now if windows 10 on desktop is told its on an under 6inch screen it locks into mobile or atleast the apps do, per windows weekly). Even though it is mobile you could run full photo shop on the phone with a couple of hacks. The one issue is Windows doesn't run well on Arm processors snapdragon 810 and 808... Look out also for a zenfone 2 running Windows 10 mobile. Also the is some one hacking the zenfone to port windows 10.
My dream is for the test windows 10 mobile rom that was being tested on xiaomi mi4 could get ported.
Also microsoft has debated on creating a rom that's flashable to android devices. That helps them get the 1billion user goal. And also attract devs and hacking enthusiasts.
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So this is full Windows 10? But on ARM?
Could I install and run any programs that I can install on my laptop then?
Does the phone have some kind of x86 to ARM translator?
No, it is not full Win10.
It only runs "universal" apps (the successor of the "metro" apps of windows 8/8.1/10)...
Truecaller is already available on win10 mobile. It shows info about who is calling but also can act as your call and text message spam filter, a feature I don't think they have on Android.
I broke my Icon unfortunately so can't post screenshots.
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I'm in the same boat. The 950 checks all my boxes hardware wise, but I do think it'll be hard to switch.
What I am doing is getting a Lumia 640, pretty cheap from BB: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/at-t-go...lack/9231014.p?id=1219701750248&skuId=9231014
Figure that would be a good device to test everything out on and see if I can make the switch. And I could probably sell it in a few months to close to what I paid for it.
Indeed fantastic price.
If my 950 XL proves (too) good, I might get a cheapo previous model so that my wife also switches.
(and only keep my Z4 Tablet LTE - that is getting Marshmallow soon - to keep contact with Android)
I actually waited to the last minute if a really serious device comes out this year from Android and only three came "close but no cigar" (the others far behind including the Note5, a series I used to be a fan and they stupidly killed by turning to a fashion series like S series):
- LG V10. I don't like the little screen (mostly the awkward positioning and that is not AMOLED but is always on - which kind of defeats the concept) and I don't care about the two selfie cams. Also you make it tough. Why not water resistant (at least) also?
- Z5 Premium. I always liked the Z series, but they failed to really advance it and now you can even call it ugly. 4K for a non-4K ready world is just a nice selling bullet. You put a super-MP camers, with no OIS and a simple single LED flash. Goofy.
- Moto X Force. No biometrics at all? In 2015? (also I kind of fear Moto as a brand for years now)
Anyway... few more days to a month to see if we made the right choice.
Love my Windows 10 1511 update that has extras to support coexistense with Win 10 phone...
MSFT don't screw this.
I started with windows hacking until I bought a HTC evo 4g. I have had 4 nexus devices and currently on the nexus 6. When the 950xl becomes available i am ditching the 6 for windows again after several years of android. Just out grew android. It was fun buy going back to where it all started.
No, only universal apps are able to run on Arm and X86 Plattform. W10 is similar on Arm and X86 but all Apps / Programms has to do the step and create Universal Apps while also Microsoft seems to work on Phones which are based on X86 CPU.
So this is a first step into the future which will provide same stuff on Desktop, Tablet and Phones. While Android has no Desktop OS and Apple has IOS and MAC OS seperated, Microsoft did the next step to Melt all worlds together. Now it is on us to support this way and on them to work continously to improve the process.
olarf said:
No, only universal apps are able to run on Arm and X86 Plattform. W10 is similar on Arm and X86 but all Apps / Programms has to do the step and create Universal Apps while also Microsoft seems to work on Phones which are based on X86 CPU.
So this is a first step into the future which will provide same stuff on Desktop, Tablet and Phones. While Android has no Desktop OS and Apple has IOS and MAC OS seperated, Microsoft did the next step to Melt all worlds together. Now it is on us to support this way and on them to work continously to improve the process.
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I feel windows mobile will make a come back.
tomzefi said:
I feel windows mobile will make a come back.
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Totally agree and i don't like the way Samsung is heading, no microsSD, removable battery etc.
MS is no Saint with privacy, but Google is ignoring us users more and more.
A bought a 950xl just a few days ago.
Having a Android device for years, this Lumia is fun, new etc.
Although i must say, the available / working apps is a bit....
Anyone has a working Tapatalk yet?
KeesStolk said:
Totally agree and i don't like the way Samsung is heading, no microsSD, removable battery etc.
MS is no Saint with privacy, but Google is ignoring us users more and more.
A bought a 950xl just a few days ago.
Having a Android device for years, this Lumia is fun, new etc.
Although i must say, the available / working apps is a bit....
Anyone has a working Tapatalk yet?
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Yes, apps, always been lacking there. I have a feeling that's gonna change. Windows phone hacking & development is coming back. I will hold on to my nexus and gonna get the 950xl
KeesStolk said:
Totally agree and i don't like the way Samsung is heading, no microsSD, removable battery etc.
MS is no Saint with privacy, but Google is ignoring us users more and more.
A bought a 950xl just a few days ago.
Having a Android device for years, this Lumia is fun, new etc.
Although i must say, the available / working apps is a bit....
Anyone has a working Tapatalk yet?
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Same for me, I used Sammy phones for some years now and it seems they lost the track more and more. For sure there is a need for more apps but its a bit a Chicken and Egg thing. If you ask Software companies they tell you that there are not enough Windows phones to make it worth to develop a APP and if you ask customers they tell you that there are not enough apps to make it worth buying a Windows Phone... Actually I see Windows Phones appear in more and more companies where they replace IPhones. ALso the Bridge Projects seems to be more promissing then the Astoria one. For us as WP users we must not care about as most good apps exist for IOS and ANdroid at the same time. If the porting from IOS work good, we will get a lot of apps soon. The rest is on Microsoft then, they have to motivate companies to create a lot of universal apps. Actually the 950/950XL seems to be the only phones with some inovation right now. Lets see end of 2016 where we are.
I forget to mention that there exist a Tapatalk app and it works. Not that good but it works and do the job.