I'm brand new to the Glacier, although I've rooted many other phones.
I looked at the guides I could find here, but I was wondering if there is an easier way to S-off + CWM than a bunch of ADB to downgrade to 2.2.1 etc... seems overly complicated atm, isn't there a way to root on GB stock ROM or an easier way in general?
I really have searched, but there is too much info and I feel like some of it may be old, like there's an easier way to root now?
Just wanna flash some custom ROMs basically.
exploit
downgrade
root/unlock hboot/install recov
i duno, it doesnt get much easier than that. its honestly very simple it just takes some time to do.
if you have the stock mytouch 4g you dont need to downgrade as far as i know..
just follow the steps, i just rooted a second one of these with stock 2.3.. took a bit longer but it worked out, the guides here are amazing
ok well I was basically wondering if there was an updated way to do it, but I guess I'll just do the downgrade and go from there.
Thx for the heads up.
orangekid said:
ok well I was basically wondering if there was an updated way to do it, but I guess I'll just do the downgrade and go from there.
Thx for the heads up.
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Hate to be the bearer of bad new, but as of currently the only way to root the 2.3.x update is to downgrade to 2.2.x then root.
There are two different eMMC chips that you could have in your device. You might want to look at my Noob Thread. I know with a post count of over 3k your not a noob but it has all the links that you'll be interested in.
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Hate to be the bearer of bad new, but as of currently the only way to root the 2.3.x update is to downgrade to 2.2.x then root.
There are two different eMMC chips that you could have in your device. You might want to look at my Noob Thread. I know with a post count of over 3k your not a noob but it has all the links that you'll be interested in.
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yeah that part I learned about and was glad to see I have the "good" one
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yeah that part I learned about and was glad to see I have the "good" one
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one of mine has the bad chip... well see how long it lasts..
once i root and flash, does it still affect the chip or is it only when flashing?
(sorry for thread hijack )
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one of mine has the bad chip... well see how long it lasts..
once i root and flash, does it still affect the chip or is it only when flashing?
(sorry for thread hijack )
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np I'm actually interested in the answer to this even though I have the good chip.
arg, keep getting stuck on INFOsignaturechecking when I try to fastboot flash the froyo stock ROM
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There was a locked thread in development where someone asked if it would work. A lot of people replied (obviously without even knowing what they are talking about) that it wouldn't work.
it DOES work on the myTouch 3G's - I just did it on one.
It works on any android phone - but the current apk implementation flashes the 1.4 cyanogen recovery image so it only works on phones that image will boot (i.e. the HTC Dream, or the Sapphire... etc)
It's way easier to apply that than it is to apply the nbh downgrade... etc.
Cool
I posted the question in a wrong area im glad someone with a mytouch tried it i bricked my first mytouch
Worked
This worked for me also I am now on CyanogenMod v3.9.11.2 and it works very well.
TY Cyanogen!
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Works...but hesitant
This definitely works on the MT3G just tried it...whew glad it worked Still extremely hesitant on flashing new rom though. Dont know why even though I have a rooted G1. Perhaps I just love this phone too much to f*#$ it up
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There was a locked thread in development where someone asked if it would work. A lot of people replied (obviously without even knowing what they are talking about) that it wouldn't work.
it DOES work on the myTouch 3G's - I just did it on one.
It works on any android phone - but the current apk implementation flashes the 1.4 cyanogen recovery image so it only works on phones that image will boot (i.e. the HTC Dream, or the Sapphire... etc)
It's way easier to apply that than it is to apply the nbh downgrade... etc.
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Now that I think about it...If you just use this to get the recov img the MT3G still has the "perfected" spl. So exactly will this allow you to flash any new ROMs? That is why the "goldcard" was used to trick it and flash to an earlier "non-perfected" spl which would then allow you to flash ROMs updated radio etc etc etc. Shed any light on this?
I know there can be risks when doing any kind of modding/hacking. What is the main risk with rooting the MT3G? Is it mainly an issue with the battery falling out or running out of juice? Or is the rooting process invasive enough (i know it is root = can touch everything) or unstable enough that there is a relatively high probability of an issue running the canned procedure?
I have my phone, love it, my wife would kill me if I wrecked it. I just want to know how likely I am to end up with a brick using this method.
Also a question to understand this procedure, if I run the apk and reboot normally then there is no lasting root, correct? I have to go into the recovery mode and flash over a new rooted rom for root to become permanent? Does this actually change the SPL on the MT3G, does it preserve the ability to flash other roms at any time in the future? I want to know if this is a one time open up your phone for rooting or if after I do this will I always have root.
Sorry for all the questions, but I have been lurking around and haven't found definitive answers to these questions. Thanks!
Dave
Dave, Ive used this method. However if you didnt notice in my previous post...the spl does NOT change. Which is why I questioned the ability to flash any ROMs. The more "complicated" method (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=547133) requires a "goldcard" with an earlier version of the spl. Which I believe allows flashing to occur.
Yeah, I saw your post after I posted. I think this is great for a simple root I am thinking to have future rooting I will need the goldcard method anyway.
It would seem that this method should be able to modify the SPL since it is able to run as root, maybe not though...
I did mine last night and now doing my wifes MT3G and I was comparing cyanogen's vs stock and its night and day...no loading screen issues with cyan's build and keyboard response got better too...
LOL yeah Ii was thinking about the SPL if we can change it out? I kinda want to call my phone semi-rooted
so anyone flash a new spl/radio using this one click root? success? or no?
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so anyone flash a new spl/radio using this one click root? success? or no?
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Still waiting on this one also hehehe haven't seen anyone do it yet!
im debating on getting a mytouch if i can get full root in just a few clicks hmmmm definatley a positive haha. hows the mytouch work in recovery terminal? since theres no hardware keyboard?
bobzoz said:
im debating on getting a mytouch if i can get full root in just a few clicks hmmmm definatley a positive haha. hows the mytouch work in recovery terminal? since theres no hardware keyboard?
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just use the trackball to select what you want...cant use console though (ALT-X)
Works
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so anyone flash a new spl/radio using this one click root? success? or no?
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Just did it...1.33.2005/ also S-off. this is definitely legit and makes things a hell of a lot more easier than all those damn adb commands. Dont get me wrong at all I do appreciate all the work that was done by Haykuro and the other boys because without them Im sure this wouldnt be possible. Anywho...it works.
Okay. As newb as one can get with phone mods, etc. But it actually works. I dont know what the exact benefits of it are but I am running... Mod version CyanogenMod-3.9.11.2 per about phone. All my downloads are gone but it worked. I dont know what the difference/any limitations is for down the road, in comparison to the gold card method (I hope none), with this type of root but hey it actually worked and I would have kick my own a$$ if I bricked my phone. Thanks to folks who found this way and are their any "rooted" differences now that I am on cfw using this method for say updating to cyanogens 4.0 eventual release?
Alright, I took the plunge and it worked flawlessly!
I use the 1 click install via the market app called Recovery Flasher. I installed CyanogenMod 4.0.1 Stable. Zoom zoom zoom...
I thought I may have had an issue when I rebooted after flashing since it sat at the MyTouch 3G splash for a ton longer than normal. I had read it was normal for the first boot to take longer so I didn't freak out and pull the battery. I just let it come up and now I couldn't be happier.
If I remember reading correctly CyanogenMod has the fix for the root vulnerability used in this hack to root plugged. So, now that I have a rooted ROM and recovery 1.4 will I ever need to worry about having the dreaded "Perfect SPL?"
so easy a caveman could do it! a thousand times, thank you.
so its confirmed you can FLASH a different SPL with no problem ? cuz if so im gettin a mytouch ! lol
go for it
bobzoz said:
so its confirmed you can FLASH a different SPL with no problem ? cuz if so im gettin a mytouch ! lol
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go to town boss...now i need to get out of the stupid hero boot loop.
Thanks. I also took a chance since I got my Touch for free by Timo mistake. Couldn't resist. Aside a few apk not able to install everything works fine. Noob question, can I now format sd card?
Oh, thanks for Quick Office.
I'm just gonna stick with rooting. Will rooting hold up against the update or will I have to nandroid unlock and flash a stock rooted rom?
This has been asked several times. Please visit the Android development section and you will see. A little searching doesn't hurt.
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Well there is so much information being thrown around at the moment, that I haven't been able to find a stock rooted 1.47.xx rom, either, and all I do is search.
OP: If you find it, let me know and I will do the same.
thats because one doesnt exist.
Use a patched version of the OTA or a ROM with it baked in and you keep root. Flash non-patched OTA and you loose root. eazy-peazy.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=712695
the OTA will break your root.
however, if you've already done that, you can reroot since the most recent OTA has been rooted.
Short answer is yes.
Long answer will involve you going to a different sub forum for evo and looking it up.
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thats because one doesnt exist.
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Ha! Thanks.....believe it or not, that actually explains a lot. I think I'll wait for a stock rooted rom to be available.
Things can change quite quickly around here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=718889
Herein lies the answer to your quest. ;-)
seankent4uf said:
Things can change quite quickly around here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=718889
Herein lies the answer to your quest. ;-)
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Yea, I saw that earlier, but this is for people who upgraded via the OTA 1.47.xx and then lost root. For this to work for me, I'd have to willingly upgrade to the OTA, and then run through these steps. I don't think I want to do that.
I'm in the process of unlocking NAND now since I'm going to need to have that done in order to proceed with anything related to 1.47.xx, so once I get this done, I'll worry about finding something that works.
I am pretty sure this is what you are looking for... It is a Rooted rom, based off the 1.47 update.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=712695
or this one...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715915
which one of those work?
I was actually running the first of the 2 links myself, since I was having major problems with my EVO, and could only use limited ROMs. It was very reliable, but I wanted the flexibility to run other ROMs. I have not run the one posted in the 2nd link, but from some of the replies, it works well also. If you are already rooted, and are comfortable flashing ROMs, I would recommend the first, since it loads just like any other ROM. It all depends on how much work you want to do.
Seriously, I know you guys hate noob posts, that been covered 1000x before.... but, my phone just arrived! This site is very large and scary... if someone could point me to a how to guide and a recommended rom... I would appreciate it.
Thx
THE BEST PLACE to start is: http://www.youtube.com/user/HTCShowMe
uh, thx?
I meant for rooting, custom roms etc... but thx either way.
Try this http://hemorrdroids.net/overclock-undervolt-your-desire-hd/
You can look for custom roms in the Dev section. There are other guides in there too.
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uh, thx?
I meant for rooting, custom roms etc... but thx either way.
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First you should decide why you need to root or flash custom roms. If you find out you should also make sure that you know "how to do" steps for rooting transactions.
eozen81 said:
First you should decide why you need to root or flash custom roms. If you find out you should also make sure that you know "how to do" steps for rooting transactions.
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Sage advice, my thoughts, apply the current OTA update and see how you get on with it as stock, then when you know where you stand think about modding it, Visionary (from Paul at modaco) will attain temp root for you to expirement with and see what root will give you without risk and can apply permanent root when and if its required. Main advice is enjoy your new phone
BTW hold off applying any future OTA updates until they have been examined, as I believe the latest Incredible OTA closes off many of the current root exploits
I would play around with it first before rooting. This way you can see what you think is missing and choose the rom you want accordingly
Agreed and thanks for the concern
I got the same advice when I posted about my nexus one..... 3 days later, I rooted! Wish I read that comment about ota
first though.....
I'll hold off a cooked days as I might not keep it, having no 3g is tough, camera doesn't seem very good and the speaker sound is very tingy.... it has proved I missed Android but this might not be the phone for me
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Hey guys, I've been thinking about rooting my MT4G, but I can't risk getting this phone bricked. I was wondering what the risks are using this method http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858021
I've heard that it can only be truly bricked if you mess with the HBoot or radio stuff. Is this true and what are your thoughts on the matter?
Thanks,
Barrett
The method that's depicted in that link is the "safer" one generally. While there is always a risk involved with this type of thing, you can be safe by following those directions EXACTLY. if you do that, it should be just fine.
There SHOULD be no risks to rooting. But check if you have a good or bad chip first... Because the myTouch 4G is just dumb like that. HTC really messed up with this phone with it's plethora of hardware problems.
I personally think that if you "can't risk" a brick, you probably shouldn't root it. And yes there should be no risks, but with these crazy chips floating around and people not being able to follow directions, there are always risks.
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I personally think that if you "can't risk" a brick, you probably shouldn't root it. And yes there should be no risks, but with these crazy chips floating around and people not being able to follow directions, there are always risks.
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There are always risk when you are tampering with the firmware of anything. Phones, Computers, Routers what ever. If you cannot "RISK" it you might just want to use VISIONary.apk r14 and just leave "temp root on boot" checked.
Read up as much as you can and then read some more, watch some youtube howto videos and if after all that you are still doubtful that you can do it then stick with stock. Its really not as overwhelming as it seems to root a phone though, but it is pretty basic and after youve done it once you will wonder why you didnt do it sooner.
I also agree with these guys. If you cant take the risk, then dont do it. There are people that want to root and those who dont. Then there are people who should root and those who should not. Rooting is only needed if you want to flash custom kernels,roms, radios etc. If your an average user then dont worry about rooting. It will do you no good.
If you do decide to root, then just read and take your time. The instructions are all laid out and have been used many times. When in doubt ask.
Good luck
Thanks guys, I really appreciate all of the responses! I'm fairly certain I'll root, but I am still reading. I'd like to know some worst case scenarios and what I can do to prevent them. What if I mistype something while perm rooting? Also, what are the risks of loading custom roms? Is there always a way to restore it even if your stuck on bootloop? One more thing, how do I know if I have a bad chip and what happens if I do?
Thanks again,
Barrett
Barrett S said:
Thanks guys, I really appreciate all of the responses! I'm fairly certain I'll root, but I am still reading. I'd like to know some worst case scenarios and what I can do to prevent them. What if I mistype something while perm rooting? Also, what are the risks of loading custom roms? Is there always a way to restore it even if your stuck on bootloop? One more thing, how do I know if I have a bad chip and what happens if I do?
Thanks again,
Barrett
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Best thing i can say to do as kind of a brick prevention tool is to make sure you flash eng bootloader cause it opens up more options that would be unavailable if you have a problem. If you mistype something it may not be as big a problem as WHERE it is mistyped. I dont think you can check for the bad chip until your phone is rooted. but it is something that can be checked through adb. The post with instructions in how to check the chip is the one that says something about post your emmc serial.
There really isnt any risk in loading a custom rom, other than getting a corrupt file download that wont flash. Make sure you make a backup through rom manager as soon as you get rooted. It will save you bigtime from having to reset everything up after a problem (ie bootloop or phone overclocked to the point of freezing.)
I think there's a high risk of becoming a flash-O-holic!
well, i tried that method several times and i keep getting s-on. good luck with you
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I think there's a high risk of becoming a flash-O-holic!
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I second that, I flash new roms too frequently.
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I was hesitant at first, but a couple months later, I went ahead and jumped in. Not too much to be afraid of if you follow instructions. Wouldn't ever go back to a stock ROM and I wondered what I was so afraid of after it was all over.
I try out new ROMs like I'm trying on shirts, its that simple once you get over the initial hump of being a bit hesitant to root a device. There's a supportive community here that will answer any questions you have and chances are- someone has already gone through whatever it is you have an issue with and has a fix. Search is your friend, that's how I got by. Just jump in. All the resources are here and other places on the web.
If you're still hesitant... just don't do it. It's not worth your time and anxiety if you're going to be continually fearful of doing something wrong. This is the kind of thing for tinkerers.... if you're not a tinkerer, just enjoy your phone as it is.
You can check your eMMC chip before rooting by using terminal app. The command is: cat /sys/devices/platform/msm_sdcc.2/mmc_host/mmc0/mmc0:0001/name
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Best thing i can say to do as kind of a brick prevention tool is to make sure you flash eng bootloader cause it opens up more options that would be unavailable if you have a problem. If you mistype something it may not be as big a problem as WHERE it is mistyped. I dont think you can check for the bad chip until your phone is rooted. but it is something that can be checked through adb. The post with instructions in how to check the chip is the one that says something about post your emmc serial.
There really isnt any risk in loading a custom rom, other than getting a corrupt file download that wont flash. Make sure you make a backup through rom manager as soon as you get rooted. It will save you bigtime from having to reset everything up after a problem (ie bootloop or phone overclocked to the point of freezing.)
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I have heard of the eng bootloader, but can you explain it to me?
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You can check your eMMC chip before rooting by using terminal app. The command is: cat /sys/devices/platform/msm_sdcc.2/mmc_host/mmc0/mmc0:0001/name
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It says "no t found"
cat /sys/devices/platform/msm_sdcc.2/mmc_host/mmc0/mmc0:0001/name
That is the correct command. Make sure you include the space after "cat". I just tried on an unrooted phone and received SEM04G in reply.
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cat /sys/devices/platform/msm_sdcc.2/mmc_host/mmc0/mmc0:0001/name
That is the correct command. Make sure you include the space after "cat". I just tried on an unrooted phone and received SEM04G in reply.
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M4G2DE
From what I've read, this is the bad one. Now what?
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M4G2DE
From what I've read, this is the bad one. Now what?
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Yup, thats the one they say is the bad one. I've got it too.
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eqjunkie829 said:
Yup, thats the one they say is the bad one. I've got it too.
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Okay, do I go ahead and root and claim a warranty if the chip gives out?
I am having a mytouch 4g now running stock rom 2.1. The phone came with S-Off. So if i download the 2.3 update, would it turn my phone back to S-on???
Also does the S-Off mean that if i want to root the phone, i would just need to flash the superuser.zip? or what???:silly:
Or Where will i continue from in case i want to root the phone. Also my device is "M4G2DE".
THANKS
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I am having a mytouch 4g now running stock rom 2.1. The phone came with S-Off. So if i download the 2.3 update, would it turn my phone back to S-on???
Also does the S-Off mean that if i want to root the phone, i would just need to flash the superuser.zip? or what???:silly:
Or Where will i continue from in case i want to root the phone. Also my device is "M4G2DE".
THANKS
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/HTC_Glacier#Root
http://oldwiki.cyanogenmod.org/wiki/HTC_Glacier:_Full_Update_Guide
Those are two pretty good guides. Honestly you have to first read, read and read some more to understand what you have and what can be done with it. Also in development there are answers to your questions under the stickys. Updating your phone would more than likely put it back to full stock status. Also why upgrade to an already 2 yr old software version.
I would recommend fully rooting your phone and the cyanogen method was easier to me. Also remember to google like crazy....
playya said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/HTC_Glacier#Root
http://oldwiki.cyanogenmod.org/wiki/HTC_Glacier:_Full_Update_Guide
Those are two pretty good guides. Honestly you have to first read, read and read some more to understand what you have and what can be done with it. Also in development there are answers to your questions under the stickys. Updating your phone would more than likely put it back to full stock status. Also why upgrade to an already 2 yr old software version.
I would recommend fully rooting your phone and the cyanogen method was easier to me. Also remember to google like crazy....
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Thanks but i read a guide which said that the emmc chips in the mytouch 4g normally corrupts after wiping or factory reset. So i am a little confused. There have been many instances that people have bricked their mytouch 4g.
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Thanks but i read a guide which said that the emmc chips in the mytouch 4g normally corrupts after wiping or factory reset. So i am a little confused. There have been many instances that people have bricked their mytouch 4g.
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Why do you have two of the same thread?
Listen, here is the deal with the eMMC. Some are faulty, some aren't. If you have a crappy one, flashing CAN speed up the process of the chip giving out. If the chip does goes kaput, though, it always was. The only "bad" chips are the ones that fail. I and many others one here have a glacier with the type of chip people ignorantly refer to as "bad." I have flashed hundreds, perhaps thousands of times and it still works just fine. Understand?
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Why do you have two of the same thread?
Listen, here is the deal with the eMMC. Some are faulty, some aren't. If you have a crappy one, flashing CAN speed up the process of the chip giving out. If the chip does goes kaput, though, it always was. The only "bad" chips are the ones that fail. I and many others one here have a glacier with the type of chip people ignorantly refer to as "bad." I have flashed hundreds, perhaps thousands of times and it still works just fine. Understand?
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what he said..... Hey I just got this phone on loan and rooted it and moved on to flashing.. not for nothing but this phone dont cost that much if something goes wrong... but if you are scared may I suggest leave this forum alone because it may have you doing things you are not comfortable with. - Just a suggestion
Hey. I have rooted and installed cyanogemod 7 okay??? So thanks but ur suggestion isnt helping.
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Hey. I have rooted and installed cyanogemod 7 okay??? So thanks but ur suggestion isnt helping.
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confused? I am glad to see you rooted and if you used the method by CM then you are also SIM unlocked. Now stroll over to Development section and you can either flash the 2.3 stock rom or my suggestion the 4.2.2 rom by cnote74.
Your device is now freely yours!
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I am having a mytouch 4g now running stock rom 2.1. The phone came with S-Off. So if i download the 2.3 update, would it turn my phone back to S-on??? - MY ANSWER WOULD BE YES.... WHY RISK IT
Also does the S-Off mean that if i want to root the phone, i would just need to flash the superuser.zip? or what???:silly: - YOU WOULD NEED A CUSTOM RECOVERY TO FLASH ANYTHING
Or Where will i continue from in case i want to root the phone. Also my device is "M4G2DE".
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http://oldwiki.cyanogenmod.org/wiki/HTC_Glacier:_Full_Update_Guide
I agree with this one. This is how I got my MT4G rooted and custom roms installed just about a week ago.
Hey OP you ok... My suggestion still not working?
playya said:
Hey OP you ok... My suggestion still not working?
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He PM'ed me. He got it worked out.