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According to TechRadar UK:
Sony Xperia S release date confirmed
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By John McCann
UK release date and price confirmed
The Sony Xperia S will be released on 5 March and will be priced at £429.99 (inc VAT) SIM-free.
After several outings over the past couple of months the Xperia S was finally released at CES 2012, under the "Sony" banner, however the handset on display clearly had Sony Ericsson splashed across the front.
As already announced, O2 and Three will be carrying the handset and Phones4U will offer the exclusive white version. T-Mobile and Orange have now jumped on the Xperia S band wagon, but it doesn't look like Vodafone is planning to range it.
Worth the hype?
The Xperia S certainly has some impressive stats, boasting a 4.3-inch LCD HD touchscreen, 1.5GHz dual-core processor, 12MP camera and 720p video recording.
However, with several quad-core phones mooted for release this year, will enough people be drawn in to Sony's offering or have they left it to late to join the dual-core party?
We think the Xperia S is a decent phone with strong features, but Sony may have just missed the boat this time. Are you tempted?
I'm not really tempted atm, but that might change
There are already the same phones out, nothing new, just another 2.3 dualcore phone.
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Flo95 said:
I'm not really tempted atm, but that might change
There are already the same phones out, nothing new, just another 2.3 dualcore phone.
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Sony Ericsson never did anything new in terms of hardware. What they excelled in is software quality and hardware design. And it sure looks like Sony did something great with the software this time, and the Xperia S (like all other Xperia phones) really does look like.no.other ^^
well im definitly tempted and Im surprised its so cheap. Will probably get this a couple months after release. Sony Arc was around £600 on release this is twice as good and almost half price.
soldiers33 said:
well im definitly tempted and Im surprised its so cheap. Will probably get this a couple months after release. Sony Arc was around £600 on release this is twice as good and almost half price.
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may be because no more ericsson so they can reduce the cost.
soldiers33 said:
well im definitly tempted and Im surprised its so cheap. Will probably get this a couple months after release. Sony Arc was around £600 on release this is twice as good and almost half price.
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may be because no more ericsson so they can reduce the cost.
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Well, I think if you live outside of the EU you do not have to pay VAT. So that brings the price down to GBP 389 (approximately $600) which is what I paid for the Arc on SonyStyle USA.
I am in. This should be my next phone. Looking forward for the release
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Xperia S might arrive on 30 January in the UK.
(http://tinyurl.com/7g67d2y)
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JAPANESE PHONE MAKER Sony's first phone without the Ericsson name will arrive on 30 January in the UK.
Source: The Inquirer (http://s.tt/15gEt)
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The article also states:
We're a little sceptical about this, as the phone was just announced at the consumer electronics show (CES) in Las Vegas only last week. In our experience Play has changed the release dates for smartphones.
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I would highly doubt that it would be released before March. Japan will receive it next month.
Yeah ..
What stand out from the rest will be the pixel density and access to PlayStation store for music and videos. Dual core or quad core, if the OS/apps doesn't utilize, its redunance.
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What stand out from the rest will be the pixel density and access to PlayStation store for music and videos. Dual core or quad core, if the OS/apps doesn't utilize, its redunance.
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I agree.....
nice update but Samsung release quad core soon
Diffleks said:
nice update but Samsung release quad core soon
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Maybe but, Ice Cream Sandwich does not support quad core. So what is the use? Just to drain battery?!
batman_112 said:
Maybe but, Ice Cream Sandwich does not support quad core. So what is the use? Just to drain battery?!
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Actually it won't. Newer chips require less power than older chips regardless of cores
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Actually it won't. Newer chips require less power than older chips regardless of cores
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Oh, that's really good to know. I did not know that so, thanks!
However, my point still stands, if ICS 4.0 can not take advantage of the extra chips then, what is the use? Also, people might say "Well, it's for future use". But, do we know for a fact that the next Android version will support quad cores? IMHO, the lifespan of a smartphone is 24 months. After that, it becomes obsolete.
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Maybe but, Ice Cream Sandwich does not support quad core. So what is the use? Just to drain battery?!
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now and day, hehehe maybe developers of smartphones thinks what is impossible to possible
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Actually it won't. Newer chips require less power than older chips regardless of cores
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agree, and i think ICS for the older smartphone will be permanent
Sony Xperia S jogs past the FCC carrying AT&T 3G radios
Sony Xperia S jogs past the FCC carrying AT&T 3G radios.
This is great news! At least for me! Hope Sony Style USA sells it soon after its release.
i'm really looking forward to this phone.
i especially like the design. it's pretty clean.
is really good phone..., i'm really want it...., please make unlocked bootloader as default...., so we can make xperia S more powerfull
Hi this thread will may give sony the push they need to start and develop another generation of Play2.
anyone who would support and would buy Xperia Play2 that will have a minimum of a quad CPU and some future wonderful GPU if it will be out, please replay to this thread.
only if your answer is yes reply else we don't need you
The Xperia Play was a flop in business yo Sony, they didn't make much from it, they were expecting millions and millions to be sold. Usually companies don't waste time on a successor if the original was not popular.
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KeiranFTW said:
The Xperia Play was a flop in business yo Sony, they didn't make much from it, they were expecting millions and millions to be sold. Usually companies don't waste time on a successor if the original was not popular.
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I'm with you on this one
I'm gonna start a petition to Nokia to get an N-Gage 2 /sarcasm
labbala said:
Hi this thread will may give sony the push they need to start and develop another generation of Play2.
anyone who would support and would buy Xperia Play2 that will have a minimum of a quad CPU and some future wonderful GPU if it will be out, please replay to this thread.
only if your answer is yes reply else we don't need you
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i'm with you man
VIVA xpeRia pLAY 2
quad core , tegra 3 ... i'll buy that , and don't care how much that will be
It's because people are greedy that XPlay hadn't the success Sony hoped for. People wanted XPlay to have from the beginning 500 optimised games, ability to play PSP games, Android 5, quad-core etc. But I'm happy that only smart people are owners of XPlay, the others still playing games with their thumbs covering 30% of the screen.
That's how customers are nowadays, they want everything to have the Apple logo, to be perfect, to be popular.
Also, about XPlay 2, Sony will surely do it in the future. It will be something big, a great gaming phone. Unfortunately, right now they have to sell PS Vita's before that.
Does anyone actually have sales data for the xperia play? I know it didnt exactly blow the walls of all known sales records, but I don't think it was a loss making flop like some make it out too be, but if anyone can say im wrong please present the evidence.
The play had a couple of drawbacks on release which really hampered its sales, im hoping sony is going to sort these out and try again, they may not, in that case i will be waiting for a high end slider.
According to this, in september 2011 sony said xperia play sales were meeting expectations. Hardly the flop its rumored to be, but also not a huge success. Truth is, it sold an expected quantity, so there's no reason to think that it won't get a successor. No strong reason to believe it will either.
Yes I think we need an Xperia Play 2. The Xperia play was very good but a little late with the tech inside and this led to a lot of hate from many reviewers. I would say if people at least gave it a try they would change their minds, I mean it is every bit as good as the Nexus S with the bonus of physical gaming controls.
xperia play 2...at least 4.0 AOS for x play.
labbala said:
Hi this thread will may give sony the push they need to start and develop another generation of Play2.
anyone who would support and would buy Xperia Play2 that will have a minimum of a quad CPU and some future wonderful GPU if it will be out, please replay to this thread.
only if your answer is yes reply else we don't need you
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I support this thread completely. If this phone came out tomorrow I would pre-order it. However, the biggest issue I haver with the first is its incompatibility with other sony devices, ps3 primarily. I understand this is an OS issue and would like to see a vita OS if possible. I know that is a legal issue. Although if it were done properly in the first place this phone would have been a significant flagship phone. Either should have "gone big or gone home". I would give them another chance. Possibly another one if they actually tried, moreover, if they don't try I'm gunna give them fewer chances. One last thing, samsung could have made a device more compatible with sony products.
Its funny, if a phone doesn't get close to iPhone sales figures then its considered a flop. Since there is a zillion different android phones you can consider all of them a flop as androids market share is split between countless manufacturers. The curse of the open os.
If you think about it, xplay is no more a flop than android is.
There are far to many android models. You need a company to make a gaming phone and only a that. Sony has at least 10 different models competing with its on xplay.
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Its funny, if a phone doesn't get close to iPhone sales figures then its considered a flop. Since there is a zillion different android phones you can consider all of them a flop as androids market share is split between countless manufacturers. The curse of the open os.
If you think about it, xplay is no more a flop than android is.
There are far to many android models. You need a company to make a gaming phone and only a that. Sony has at least 10 different models competing with its on xplay.
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Seems we have an ifanboy.. haha.. I like options. Unlike the iphone which is..one phone..and no, not all android phones are "flops", but hey you should look at some sales figures and then see actual sales then come back and reply until then, don't assume.
lol I am anti apple, just telling it the way it is
Geez you either can't read very well or you took my post the wrong way.
Now-a-days it isn't the phone that's selling its the specs. If you see a new android on the market then you would also see heavily advertised specs about the phone. Bottom line and common sense would tell Sony that higher specs in the worlds only gaming phone would sell through the roof. Also maybe if the touch pads weren't such a big deal to configure for development and games then half the complaints and lost sales would not be what it is today. It doesn't take a genius to know what the ppl want so why is it so hard to put more effort and ambition in this device to make it more successful and up to date. Its simple you gonna sell seedless grapes instead of grapes with seeds in them because you know what ppl want and that's without the headache of spitting out seed after every grape. Stupid analogy but think about it it does make sense
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i am a teenager (13) and i love y rooted and bootloader unlocked xperia play (i did it by myself) and all my friends say that it is a great phoone and that they want to have one. i think it should be continued, but made cheaper so more people between 13 and 18 can afford it (my parents are moderately rich and i got it within the first 6 months of release)
I don't see it happening. It treads too much on the toes of the Vita and was probably Ericsson who pushed for it to happen before. So either Sony is going to see that the future of mobile gaming is integration with smartphones or they're going to continue down the dead end road with the likes of the Vita, in which case the Xperia PLAY 2 won't see the light of day.
The Xperia PLAY didn't do as well as it could have because it was released with 1 year old specs and reviewers are generally unforgiving of that. For an Xperia PLAY 2 to be a success, it would need following:
- Dual/Quad core GPU
- 1GB RAM
- 720p resolution display
- Tegra GPU (not as powerful as others but nvidia is and will continue to buy the market with exclusives)
- 8GB internal memory with expandable memory.
- PSP games - the vita can emulate PSP games, so I don't see this as being unrealistic.
- Better gamepad integration for devs with built in touchscreen to button mapper.
I just don't see it happening any time soon, especially while the Vita is still in play.
I think the future of mobile gaming will be integration with smartphones but sony isn't there yet. When they are, if they can develop the vita into an xperia play shell, they will have the market sewn up (they already have the decent game developers on-board).
LordBattleBeard said:
I don't see it happening. It treads too much on the toes of the Vita and was probably Ericsson who pushed for it to happen before. So either Sony is going to see that the future of mobile gaming is integration with smartphones or they're going to continue down the dead end road with the likes of the Vita, in which case the Xperia PLAY 2 won't see the light of day.
The Xperia PLAY didn't do as well as it could have because it was released with 1 year old specs and reviewers are generally unforgiving of that. For an Xperia PLAY 2 to be a success, it would need following:
- Dual/Quad core GPU
- 1GB RAM
- 720p resolution display
- Tegra GPU (not as powerful as others but nvidia is and will continue to buy the market with exclusives)
- 8GB internal memory with expandable memory.
- PSP games - the vita can emulate PSP games, so I don't see this as being unrealistic.
- Better gamepad integration for devs with built in touchscreen to button mapper.
I just don't see it happening any time soon, especially while the Vita is still in play.
I think the future of mobile gaming will be integration with smartphones but sony isn't there yet. When they are, if they can develop the vita into an xperia play shell, they will have the market sewn up (they already have the decent game developers on-board).
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i'll buy that , for any price
I would buy it in a heartbeat
At launch the Xperia Play wasn't too bad, the MSM8255 is still a fine performer.
As much as I hope for you guys a newer Xperia Play will arrive, a petition of any sorts will absolutely not help. Creating and releasing a phone requires months, if not one or two years of work. Especially something that would require so much extra development, new partners, extra quality control, content at launch, ... It's very hard to get all the cycles in the development process up to speed since a phone is something completely different from a console.
I'm in for the Xperia Play 2...
So far My perfect phone will be a Xperia Play with the 32GB Galaxy Nexus Screen and Guts... It's not that difficult Sony.
I will jump to the Galaxy Nexus while I wait...for it
It's all obvious. The Play was launched with old specs for a phone at the time, never mind a phone that should have been cutting edge to be a gaming phone. It's been said many times, but a phone that is up-to-date spec-wise with a gamepad would sell unbelievably.
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http://news.yahoo.com/leaks-suggest-playstation-nexus-phone-way-165700862.html
Here's a blurb:
This May, a report by Amir Efrati in the Wall Street Journal said that Google would be partnering with multiple different manufacturers at the same time for its next wave of Nexus devices. More recently, a leak reported by the Japanese-language site Android Noodles listed three different Nexus devices that were slated to be released soon, including a Sony Xperia Nexus. And with the recent release of the PlayStation Mobile marketplace on Sony Xperia phones, two of the biggest brands in tech might be about to collide.
If Nexus smartphones are "pure Android," how could it be a PlayStation phone?
A "regular source" to the Android and Me blog says that upcoming Nexus devices will allow manufacturer customizations, so long as they're put in a separate place and made optional.
In this case, the PlayStation Mobile store isn't preloaded on any devices right now, the way that its precursor and other gaming features were baked into the Xperia Play (and the way carriers usually pack bloatware onto non-Nexus phones). Instead, owners of Xperia phones have to visit a Sony website to download the store. So an Xperia Nexus may be able to use PlayStation Mobile without breaking Google's pure out-of-the-box Android experience.
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See the link for more!
Very excited!
Dear god I hope this is true.
If Sony releases a Nexus device for US carriers, I'd buy it without a doubt.
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It is an interesting development. I do like this push in Nexus development to bring more pure Android experiences and encourage manufacturers to make their pieces more optional.
I'll be more excited if we actually hear about a new Playstation-certified phone with gaming controls, though (EDIT: Note that the above article gives no indication of whether or not an Xperia Nexus would have integrated game controls). I'm hoping Sony is just waiting to find the right time when they have everything ready (Hopefully by the time my 2-year contract expires next Fall). Being the only phone with gaming controls gives us a bit of anti-fragmentation in that regard - developers who target us aren't targeting a slew of devices.
Meanwhile more and more devices are coming out Playstation-certified without gaming controls - even the HTC One X, which I think it is cool to see happen on another brand. I just hope this trend doesn't mean there won't ever be another phone with integrated game controls... 'cause beefier hardware would be nice at some point.
~Troop
If its a Nexus, im pretty sure it would have Galaxy S3 rivaling or even beating specs..
Doubt it'd have a gamepad. I don't think a nexus device would be aimed at gamers.
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LG Optimus G Nexus interests me more...
No gamepad no party. :silly:
Sorry guys but the next nexus (by lg) will be similar to the optimus g but dual core and 2gb of ram, no gamepad.
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Sorry guys but the next nexus (by lg) will be similar to the optimus g but dual core and 2gb of ram, no gamepad.
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5 nexus devices from various manufacturers are rumored to be released next month, actually.
5?? All probably with no gamepad, so... Meh.. :banghead: Why exactly the manufacturer aren't interested in gaming device?? Coz they all corporate leaders & not gamerz?? Is that it?? They only use thier phone to simplify thier job?? Meh..
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5?? All probably with no gamepad, so... Meh.. :banghead: Why exactly the manufacturer aren't interested in gaming device?? Coz they all corporate leaders & not gamerz?? Is that it?? They only use thier phone to simplify thier job?? Meh..
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Guess there just isn't a big market for it yet, and rumors about Android 4.2 are saying that it will have a center where OEMs can make their skinned ROMs available while the user can update their phone with the pure Android versions whenever they want. So, different manufacturers are gonna have their own Nexus devices. You can google Android 4.2 and read up on the rumors, allegedly from a source known to be reliable.
AAAAAAAAHHHHHHYYYYYYYYYYyYEEEEEEEEEE...
we need xperia play 2 ==> no
please , xperia nexus with game pad :
No.
Please.
No.
Pretty please?
No.
Pretty pretty please?
No.
Pretty please with sugar on top?
No.
Pretty please with sugar and a cherry?
No.
Pretty please with sugar, nuts and a cherry?
No.
Pretty please with sugar, nuts, a cherry and chocolate sprinkles?
No.
I really need it.
No.
I really really need it.
No.
I really desperately need it.
No.
It's a matter of life and death.
No.
If you don't make it to us i'll never speak to you again.
No.
I'll be your best friend.
No.
I'll be your best friend forever and ever.
No.
Aw, come on, be a pal.
Oh... Alright. yeah
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quad core, not dual core
jacklebott said:
quad core, not dual core
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We will see...
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We will see...
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What gives you even the most remote idea that it'd be dual core? Name one source. One. Seriously. Bet you can't.
Quad core Qualcomm Krait is LTE capable, and LTE compatibility was the only reason we didn't get quad core phones sooner
If it doesn't work out at least the Xperia Play is still going strong; no I'm not being sarcastic either: FPSe touch-pad support, Playstation Mobile, high-profile games like the Bard's Tale, support from great dev's like Hyper Dev Box. If everyone stopped supporting the Play in unison I'd still have years worth of gaming left on the device.
mehdi.moha said:
AAAAAAAAHHHHHHYYYYYYYYYYyYEEEEEEEEEE...
we need xperia play 2 ==> no
please , xperia nexus with game pad :
No.
Please.
No.
Pretty please?
No.
Pretty pretty please?
No.
Pretty please with sugar on top?
No.
Pretty please with sugar and a cherry?
No.
Pretty please with sugar, nuts and a cherry?
No.
Pretty please with sugar, nuts, a cherry and chocolate sprinkles?
No.
I really need it.
No.
I really really need it.
No.
I really desperately need it.
No.
It's a matter of life and death.
No.
If you don't make it to us i'll never speak to you again.
No.
I'll be your best friend.
No.
I'll be your best friend forever and ever.
No.
Aw, come on, be a pal.
Oh... Alright. yeah
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Regardless of your spam comments. This one made me luagh hhhahahha
No Touchpads = No Fun
All the people hate me, but thats normal.
jacklebott said:
What gives you even the most remote idea that it'd be dual core? Name one source. One. Seriously. Bet you can't.
Quad core Qualcomm Krait is LTE capable, and LTE compatibility was the only reason we didn't get quad core phones sooner
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Obviously is only a rumor
http://translate.google.es/translat...0/05/lg-google-nexus-finales-octubre/&act=url
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Obviously is only a rumor
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Well, I applaud you for actually having a source . I'm gonna keep believing in the quad core specs that many other news sites detail though (sorry for snapping at you as well, I've kinda been testy lately)
http://m.techradar.com/news/phone-a.../sony-admits-our-phones-can-t-compete-1113159
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its poor to admit such things publicly , each phone has their own advantage.
s3- fast and cutting edge features
iphone - reliable
nexus - google experience
sony - best looking phones
Off course it can't compete right now without a single handset 100% Sony.
What we have available is Sony Ericsson's devices with Sony brand.
Next year will be the year.
I really need a decent display with a lot of power under the hood.
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its poor to admit such things publicly , each phone has their own advantage.
s3- fast and cutting edge features
iphone - reliable
nexus - google experience
sony - best looking phones
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You spelt "totally locked up and uncustomisable" wrongly.
They might not compete with iphone5 or Galaxy S3 but not all people are looking for these high-end phones. Not everybody are flashaolic nerds like me. I know a lot of people who still use their phone as a.... PHONE!!! In this category Sony is still a good choice for a phone.(Even I never owned one)
I agree Sony is by far the best looking and best screen android phone, but the miss some points like locked bootloaders and not so good cameras.
I had a xperia s and the device from specs was very nice, from specs I would prefer it as the S3 processor beast. But then with the use you miss important things like USB on the go (not workink but promised) and the 12 mp cam was a piece of SH....
If that happens, maybe Sony will take Samsung's place. Sony devices are in fact, powerful with great support (Also AOSP)
And the system is 200% cleaner than TouchWiz.
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You spelt "totally locked up and uncustomisable" wrongly.
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hahahaha....
very well said...witty and true! :laugh:
I dont really know.....they should make phone to rival sgs4 or iphone 5s/6....its nonsense to rival sgs3 (when its going to be year old flagship)...it is still going to sell well, but still...everybody says how sucky samsung devs are....but idk, they gave us some sweet features-sony should follow that step, high end hw<good software, today in my opinion....
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I dont really know.....they should make phone to rival sgs4 or iphone 5s/6....its nonsense to rival sgs3 (when its going to be year old flagship)...it is still going to sell well, but still...everybody says how sucky samsung devs are....but idk, they gave us some sweet features-sony should follow that step, high end hw<good software, today in my opinion....
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it's nonsense to rival iphone. Android doesn't rival, Android beats.
If I am not wrong (stopped stalking for latest releases after buying the S3), Sony still doesn't have a quad core flagship, so if you were indeed a Sony lover you would have already accepted the fact that right now they don't aim for specs (like Samsung does obviously) and like to provide a nice quality phone with decent price, specs and software (updates + aosp release). This is not at all a bad thing and I like where Sony are headed in the Android world.
Sony has cut back a lot, austerity for them due to a loose wallet subsidising blueray with the PS3. Imagine SGS3 costing 20% of its production costs
They hardly make anything themselves now. It's like Honda giving up and rebranding Kia's instead. Karma me thinks, for Sony Music being fascist psychopathic murdering scum
bala_gamer said:
its poor to admit such things publicly , each phone has their own advantage.
s3- fast and cutting edge features
iphone - reliable
nexus - google experience
sony - best looking phones
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Why does everyone use iphone and reliable in the same sentence? What's not reliable with an android phone? If anything, an iphone is much more unreliable (not hardware-wise, more like software-wise. Have you ever actually owned an iDevice in real life? If you did, you'd notice there are a lot more freezes and app crashes than with android.
Also, how can it be reliable if it doesn't even have proper multitasking?
Sony's 2013 top devices will have S4 PRO,5" 1080p screens,2gb RAM,water resistance,dragontrail glass,Exmor RS 16.2 mpx and 13mpx with third generation dual LED and the sexy look that only Sony know how to do...
But we just can wait with the best device in our hands right now.
If Sony really puts some weight behind these words, and they use the ST-Ericsson NovaThor SoCs next year, they will blow everything out of the water. The STE processors will be manufactured by Samsung, so they will have arguably the best mobile manufacturing process out there for the moment, while having the ImgTech G6xx0's GPUs which seem to look pretty unchallenged in performance.
Up until now all of Sony's devices were just outdated by a good more than half a year. In the mobile space where we basically have 1 year long product cycles, that's half of a product lifetime. The Xperia T is a nice phone, but at this point in time it's basically the same internal hardware as the One XL/S and NA S3's, which are 6+ months old. Don't get me started on the previous "flagships".
Let's hope they can deliver. They have the hardware available to do it.
testadeferro said:
I agree Sony is by far the best looking and best screen android phone, but the miss some points like locked bootloaders and not so good cameras.
I had a xperia s and the device from specs was very nice, from specs I would prefer it as the S3 processor beast. But then with the use you miss important things like USB on the go (not workink but promised) and the 12 mp cam was a piece of SH....
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Funny you mention that Sony cameras are not so good when the SIII and Iphone 4s uses a Sony sensor.
http://9to5mac.com/2012/06/01/chipw...sung-galaxy-siii-sports-the-iphone-4s-camera/
Anyway, in the flagship they can´t compete, shure, but in the rest of the range, it has the best ones.
I currently have the SIII but below that Sony does better than Samnsung, in price/quality, at least in my country.
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Funny you mention that Sony cameras are not so good when the SIII and Iphone 4s uses a Sony sensor.
http://9to5mac.com/2012/06/01/chipw...sung-galaxy-siii-sports-the-iphone-4s-camera/
Anyway, in the flagship they can´t compete, shure, but in the rest of the range, it has the best ones.
I currently have the SIII but below that Sony does better than Samnsung, in price/quality, at least in my country.
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I can tell you that my xperia neo takes better photos then my s2 and my former xperia s. But not better then the s3. This was tested with the 4 phones in the same places and in same conditions. I m a sony fan. Allways had sony Ericsson phones. And tell you thay the xperia s is a great deception. I m not a great fan from samsung I had some y op devices and allqays had problems with them. But one I ensure you. S3 is by far better then any sony. Last I tell you if the xperia s had some features that it could have without problems, like otg usb, external sd, removable battery, and decent software for cam, I had prefere it has the s3.
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You spelt "totally locked up and uncustomisable" wrongly.
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thats another part of the story
I tried so hard analyzing but now at last I know their reasoning behind releasing Xperia S, Xperia P, Xperia U, Xperia Acro S, Xperia T, and whatever Xperia (ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ) phone they released this year. All along and all this time, those phones were meant to challenge Galaxy S2, HTC Sensation, iPhone4s and other phones from last year! What kind of mindset is that for a company? What have you become Sony? Argh!
The iPhone's implementation of panorama is a great example on why Apple are so good at creating user experiences for the lowest common denominator.
Yes, that's a nice way of saying it's made for stupid people. But making things for stupid people requires very smart ideas.
Sony about to unleash four new Android smartphones later this year
Sony has been on quite a roll. At least as far as mobile phone launches are concerned. This year alone, five handsets in different segments have been launched by the company. These range from the high-end Xperia Z and ZL to the mid-range Xperia SP to the low-tier Xperia E and Xperia L. But it seems the company is not stopping at just these five.
According to the rumour, a certain Sony Xperia A, codenamed Dogo, will be added to the Japanese carrier NTT DoCoMo’s line-up sometime in the summer months. It is said to have a 4.6-inch screen and is powered by a Qualcomm Snapdragon 600 processor. Other specs include 2GB of RAM, 32GB of native storage and a 2300 mAh battery capacity. The phone will be water and dust resistant, like the Xperia Z and Tablet Z, and will bring along support for NFC. An IR Blaster is also said to be aboard.
Also on the roadmap is the Sony Xperia UL, which we are dreading to see since it is codenamed Gaga. The phone is said to be very closely based on the Sony Xperia ZL and will also have a Qualcomm Snapdragon 600 under the hood. Other specs that have leaked of the Xperia UL say it will have 32GB of internal storage, 2GB of RAM and a 2300 mAh battery as well as NFC support.
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http://tech2.in.com/news/smartphone...ew-android-smartphones-later-this-year/855412
So they are just gonna churn out phones after phones..Xperia Z will be forgotten even before the end of the year this way..And apart from that..why so many phones? And with same capabilities of XZ? Whats wrong with sony..Htc just learnt its lesson!
Releases of new phones won't make your Z any worse, FYI.
As long as Sony release 4.2.2 and hopefully 5.0 there's nothing wrong with them spamming the market.
Its not just about firmware..If you release so many phones in the market the brand value of a flagship like XZ decreases as your giving same features and water/dust proofing on lower end phones.. what was so unique about XZ? this was one of the key factors.
Well Sony are not going competed in the mobile market only releasing a couple of handsets pair year. If they did they may as well just go home. Think Apple are the only manufacturer that could truly do that at present. Remember Sony are struggling at the moment. So if this is there business strategy then so be it. I still love my XZ price depreciation and all.
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Well company needs to capture the market, Z is already running on an old processor, flagship from HTC and Samsung are using faster processors already, they have to keep up the fight with them. That said i am sure Z will get upgraded to 5.0 and we should not care much about other phones.
XZ does not have an 'old' processor..Yes its S4 Pro but its clocked and implemented in such a way that its 2 time faster than nexus 4 with the same processor.
Everything can be run on an XZ that S4 and HTC one can do..There is nothing they can do extra. The jump from XZ to ONE is 30% and that is just benchmarks..In real life usage you will be able to use any app or game that the HTC ONE plays..Battery endurance test on gsm arena is same 48hr for both..Btw HTC ONE Gl graphics benchmark is just 30 fps..Which is lower than XZ
P.S- XZ is cheaper than HTC ONE AND S4...I got it for 644$ in my country..S4 and HTC ONE are coming for Around 773$
While I do understand you might feel bad that your Z will get outdated soon, you should also understand the situation Sony is in currently.
The Mobile business is THE most crucial business for Sony currently and their future depends on it. If they can consolidate market share further and grab the No.3 spot with a solid lead over HTC, Huawei, ZTE etc it will secure the future of Sony Group as a whole.
So new phones will definitely keep coming this year as Sony needs to survive.
I think it's a bad mistake. Dilution of the brand can never be a good idea. This is not a question about keeping up with the competition, if they wanted to do that, then they should have strived to release the Z with the 600 cpu. Releasing devices with that cpu in September or October will not make any impression because by then all eyes will have turned to the 800 cpu and whatever Qualcomm has to offer after that.
This strategy didn't turn out too well for the Xperia T, the phone that quick time forgot. Even the Xperia S is still regarded by most as Sony's flagship of 2012.
Sony should not get too involved in the spec race, well as far as cpus go anyway. The s4 pro on the Z is plenty fine and it's not it's weakness.
Sony's major problem is software development, everywhere you look the Xperia brand is being let down by software. Whether it be releasing phones with dated os and taking forever to update. The Xperia S is still waiting for JB while the galaxy s2, Samsung's phone of 2011 is about to get it if it hasn't already.
On top of that, you often get very weak software from Sony that takes ages for them to improve.
The software on my Z is its weakest link, whether it be the ui lag or the poor camera software that means you really have to take your time to get the best results from the camera.
Again and again, the hardware is being let down by the software.
Considering how lean and feature poor the Sony software is, it's really shockingly poor that it takes them so long to a) release stable builds and b) roll out updates.
Samsung's touchwiz is packed to the hilt with loads of software additions but yet, Samsung get it out quicker, up to date, and more stable than Sony can dream of right now.
For me, this is where Sony falls down really badly. They really need to bring in some excellent developers to turn things around.
Having a so called flagship waiting almost a year for a software update is just pathetic.
I said it before, I'll reserve my final judgement on the Z until I see the 4.2.2 software because I know it takes Sony linger than most to put out decent and stable software. Also the 4.1 has little or no software additions from Sony with the exception of the new launcher which I think is a bit ridiculous without an overview mode and the stamina mode and new camera app. Everything still looks the same from the gingerbread days.
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Too many new phones will simply mean delayed updates.
The r&d team remains the same.
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Considering how lean and feature poor the Sony software is, it's really shockingly poor that it takes them so long to a) release stable builds and b) roll out updates.
Samsung's touchwiz is packed to the hilt with loads of software additions but yet, Samsung get it out quicker, up to date, and more stable than Sony can dream of right now.
For me, this is where Sony falls down really badly. They really need to bring in some excellent developers to turn things around.
Having a so called flagship waiting almost a year for a software update is just pathetic.
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I agree with your software complaint. The fact the camera takes 3 seconds to open is completely unacceptable, especially considering the Xperia S was so fast at booting up the camera. That said, I don't have too many problems with the software on the Z.
This is my first Sony smartphone, but I've noticed Sony almost always releases phones with outdated software AND dated computing hardware. The Xperia S was the first dual core Sony smartphone (I think) and it was months behind the Sensation, North American S2,and many others, all while having the same processor. Same goes for the Xperia T.
The fact that Sony intends to release so many phones this year probably has something to do with getting their high end devices to as many carriers/countries as possible. For instance, the Xperia Z isn't available in Canada. We're getting the ZL. In any event, coupling Sony's reputation for not releasing timely updates and the fact they're going to allegedly have 4-5 flagship devices this year, I'm not confident we're going to see many significant updates. Hopefully CM is able to keep us up to date!
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It isn't a new thing from Sony anyway... I have never use smartphone other than Sony 's for my entire life and it was since somewhere around x10 to x arc period they started to release phones to different target user like flagship, middle range and budget phones In each year.
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They simply replaced with smartphones their previous portfolio.
And this is natural. Every other OEM does that exept Apple.
This is good for the company to support all the market niches.
Would you rather they release phone to cater for everyone's budget OR be like apple and only sell expensive devices?
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^Seriously! Its not about them releasing multiple phones..Its about them releasing SO MANY phones..
Why not one for budget, mid-range and flagship? This is what i mean!
Simple. To make money. They know that if they release 12 phones in a year, for example, that 3 will sell REALLY well, 6/7 will sell fairly well and the remaining probably won't sell very well. But each one of those is still a sale which means more money for the company.
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The ZL is understandable as it's an experimental device to see how users react to the form factor. If it does well, I'm pretty certain Sony's flagship of 2014 will follow the same style. But if they release another flagship this year, that'll really piss me off, there is no need for a 600 cpu replacement for the Z. The Zs got all the raw power it needs. Flagship devices should stand for a year at least, the successful companies follow that principle. They can release a note style device this year but a new flagship smartphone, that demeans the Xperia brand, not to talk of the consequences for software support. They shouldn't go down that road again. Like I said before, software is their greatest weakness and I'd like to see signs that all resources are consolidated and brought to bare to offer the best possible user experience to a dedicated line of phones. If Sony don't address this software issue soon, I could conceivably go Samsung next year. HTC have proved that they don't quite no which way to go.
I also have a feeling that the gs4 will be the last cheap looking Samsung flagship we'll see. The s5 I expect will be different because it must be obvious to Samsung that that's it's weakest link too.
I also believe that Samsung is slowly beginning to accept that it's own proprietary stuff can't compete. We're likely to see them move away from super amoled to solux LCD displays and from exynos to snapdragon. We can see that happening already as 70% of s4s will use the 600 cpu. I don't think they'll have an exynos that can take on say a 2.3ghz cortex a15 snapdragon 800 cpu.
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What's wrong with releasing 4-6 phones a year ? They need to address the whole market, not only high-end devices, but also low-end, mid-end and entry level. Now people seem to have a problem with too many phones being released... seriously, what the hell has gotten into you people ?
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What's wrong with releasing 4-6 phones a year ? They need to address the whole market, not only high-end devices, but also low-end, mid-end and entry level. Now people seem to have a problem with too many phones being released... seriously, what the hell has gotten into you people ?
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But Sony is releasing 4-5 flagship devices. From the looks of it, 3 are coming out with the Qualcomm 600 cpu, and likely another with the Qualcomm 800 at the end of the year. Good for them but I suspect it will leave those of us with Xperia Z and ZL's waiting longer for updates.
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But Sony is releasing 4-5 flagship devices. From the looks of it, 3 are coming out with the Qualcomm 600 cpu, and likely another with the Qualcomm 800 at the end of the year. Good for them but I suspect it will leave those of us with Xperia Z and ZL's waiting longer for updates.
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Then wouldn't the obvious demand is for sony to hire more software engineer than to demands that they stop making more phone?
Other thing from other post is that isn't The other obvious answer on why they cant just release 3 phone a year for different price range is because HTC has done it with their one series and by the looks of it, the strategy fails miserably.
And I think from the time of the arc, sony had released 2 flagship a year, so not sure why people still think they will only do just one. The thing about sony is it main market are where people buy PAYG and without subsidies. So people are really price sensitive. Releasing 2 flagship would land sony as the cheapest but most powerful phone on the block. The Z here in Malaysia can be bought at around us550. Making it slightly more expensive than the nexus 4 and S3. The hTC one and S4 are a cool us200 more. The xperia V, which are much better than the s3 is now at US300, making it even cheaper than the S2.
Interesting enough by doing what a lot of people here hates, sony climb to number 2 spot just behind Samsung, while HTC with their one series experiment that people here seems to love drop even lower. So I guess, they are on the right track.
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All it looks like they're doing is throwing loads of phones out on the market and hoping one sticks and becomes successful.
The more devices they release the more delays it will cause with updates.
Bad move in my opinion but they obviously know better.
You do get the sense though with Sony that once a new mobile comes out their 'previous flagship' is dropped like a sack of *bleep* and it takes forever for anything to be updated.