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Possible February launch date?

Thats what this article says:
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If so, I can hardly wait!

jchap2k said:
Thats what this article says:
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If so, I can hardly wait!
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Hmmm, looking like May for over here and Orange only to start with, which is a shame because the Orange signal is awful where I live

jchap2k said:
Thats what this article says:
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If so, I can hardly wait!
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fantastic news, no hopefully Bell here in Canada will release it around the same time frame!
I've been harassing Bell customer service reps about a release date, but they won't give me any information! haha

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bells releasing it march 17th
http://mobilesyrup.com/2011/01/24/b..._campaign=Feed:+Mobilesyrup+(mobilesyrup.com)

Ain't that an exciting time to be Canadian? For once, we get a high-end Android phone (high-end being an understatement in the Atrix case!) at the same time as south-of-the-border. Before CES, I was waiting for Telus' HTC Desire HD, but now, man, I'm getting my hands on the Atrix.

PuerkitoBio said:
Ain't that an exciting time to be Canadian? For once, we get a high-end Android phone (high-end being an understatement in the Atrix case!) at the same time as south-of-the-border. Before CES, I was waiting for Telus' HTC Desire HD, but now, man, I'm getting my hands on the Atrix.
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I've got my desire HD in october/november i m pretty happy with it,I think i ll be switching to the atrix when it comes out but only after trying it(waiting for htc annoucement for it dual core cpu phone), because of mainly 2 reasons:
1-Motoblur and software integration
2-community support! as HTC always had the best community support here..
Also i heard something about tegra 2 GPU being less powerfull than a SGX540 PowerVR or Adreno 205 while the next Dual core HTC will for sure have Adreno 220 which is supposed to be like 3x better than the 205 anyone got some info about this?

i hope it is at best buy and at&t stores in feb, i hate best buy
this no best buy this worst buy!
if not I might wait a month to get at at&t store.

kurolife said:
I've got my desire HD in october/november i m pretty happy with it,I think i ll be switching to the atrix when it comes out but only after trying it(waiting for htc annoucement for it dual core cpu phone), because of mainly 2 reasons:
1-Motoblur and software integration
2-community support! as HTC always had the best community support here..
Also i heard something about tegra 2 GPU being less powerfull than a SGX540 PowerVR or Adreno 205 while the next Dual core HTC will for sure have Adreno 220 which is supposed to be like 3x better than the 205 anyone got some info about this?
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You're right about HTC historically having better community support, though the hype is so high with the Atrix, and the "hacking/customization" possibilities are so awesome with the docking things and the pure power of that phone, I'm pretty sure it will have a huge and dynamic dev community. Locked bootloader or not.

There have been a lot of rumoured launch dates, like the 1st of March, late January and now the 13th of February. I hope that it will be the 13th of February, because then they have some time to find a solution for the "locked bootloader" issue and it's not too far away.

PuerkitoBio said:
You're right about HTC historically having better community support, though the hype is so high with the Atrix, and the "hacking/customization" possibilities are so awesome with the docking things and the pure power of that phone, I'm pretty sure it will have a huge and dynamic dev community. Locked bootloader or not.
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As mentioned in another thread the dock station is for 150$(it should be about the same price here in euros if we add the tax) which was a great surprise and a reason reconsider.
As for launch date here in France orange said the launch date would be somewhere around march and i think till then we will have a clear image and different tests and feedbacks from people in some regions that got to get it before the others
But Im still expecting HTC annoucement of it super future smartphone in WMC,i m pretty much expecting this platform , and it looks pretty much insane compared to tegra 2!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdVw9uBIr5I

kurolife said:
As mentioned in another thread the dock station is for 150$(it should be about the same price here in euros if we add the tax) which was a great surprise and a reason reconsider.
As for launch date here in France orange said the launch date would be somewhere around march and i think till then we will have a clear image and different tests and feedbacks from people in some regions that got to get it before the others
But Im still expecting HTC annoucement of it super future smartphone in WMC,i m pretty much expecting this platform , and it looks pretty much insane compared to tegra 2!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdVw9uBIr5I
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Qualcom dual core with ability to knock off processors for bat. efficiency.

Also found this thread:
http://androidforums.com/motorola-a...atrix-4g-training-2-2-2011-a.html#post2203973

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Also found this thread:
http://androidforums.com/motorola-a...atrix-4g-training-2-2-2011-a.html#post2203973
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Thanks for that. Things are looking pretty good.
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Finally I found a reason to switch from T-mobile to AT&T. I returned today my MT4G which is really a great device but the t-mobile service in San Diego sucks. Now I just have to survive with a Nokia prepaid phone until the Atrix is available. I hope it comes out mid of February. Can't wait

kurolife said:
As mentioned in another thread the dock station is for 150$(it should be about the same price here in euros if we add the tax) which was a great surprise and a reason reconsider.
As for launch date here in France orange said the launch date would be somewhere around march and i think till then we will have a clear image and different tests and feedbacks from people in some regions that got to get it before the others
But Im still expecting HTC annoucement of it super future smartphone in WMC,i m pretty much expecting this platform , and it looks pretty much insane compared to tegra 2!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdVw9uBIr5I
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That looks cool, and I know its still in development, but hell that ui looks weird and responds with quite a big lag.

DarkDvr said:
That looks cool, and I know its still in development, but hell that ui looks weird and responds with quite a big lag.
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Just download Launcher Pro. It is a speedy launcher and you will still have access to all of the benefits of motoblur.
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Now its a great phone but no super amoled witch I could get past but no gyroscope and no gingerbread 2.3.3 is a no go for my I'm at 1. 6gHz with a 2825 quadrant on my new nexus s
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nucentury08 said:
Now its a great phone but no super amoled witch I could get past but no gyroscope and no gingerbread 2.3.3 is a no go for my I'm at 1. 6gHz with a 2825 quadrant on my new nexus s
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yes, how can we possibly live without a gyroscope. Or a flux capacitor (which is in the next HTC device I am sure).

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yes, how can we possibly live without a gyroscope. Or a flux capacitor (which is in the next HTC device I am sure).
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Indeed. I constantly fall over without a gyroscope to stabilise me.

nucentury08 said:
Now its a great phone but no super amoled witch I could get past but no gyroscope and no gingerbread 2.3.3 is a no go for my I'm at 1. 6gHz with a 2825 quadrant on my new nexus s
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I had a Nexus S for 1 week. SAMOLED= not sharp, not bright and sucks battery like hell when you have a bright background. Just hype nothing else. I prefer SLCD.
Gyroscope? LOL I prefer gyros...very delicious;-)
Gingerbread? You mean this RC product that was released to the Nexus S? OMG I had so much fun with gingerbread....choppy homescreen swiping, choppy browser with or without flash...,no serious software support for FFC,

thinking of buying 2nd X1

im about to buy 2nd X10 which costs about $300, is this a good price?
secondly, my current phone is X1 which using window mobile, how can i transfer all sms from X1 to X10
any reply would be highly appreciated
PS: sorry for my bad English

If your X1 is still usable for about another month or two, I would wait

unknown13x said:
If your X1 is still usable for about another month or two, I would wait
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I have to agree with him,
Why go for X10? just wait a couple of months then go for the Xperia ARC or Play, heck even Xperia Neo will be soon released

sync it to Sony Sync from ur X1 and then Sync back to X10.
I'm using both X1 and X10 )

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If your X1 is still usable for about another month or two, I would wait
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LOL, I wont disagree but there huge improvement from x1 to x10, speedy, experience difference os, multimedia, games...
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kanchigo said:
LOL, I wont disagree but there huge improvement from x1 to x10, speedy, experience difference os, multimedia, games...
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Especially if he is concerned about price, 300 isnt bad and the arc will be way more upon release.

but arc will cost 600 not 300.big difference for almost same hardware

shihte said:
but arc will cost 600 not 300.big difference for almost same hardware
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There's some good news regarding the arc's price. However, it's still above his price range. However, the neo will fit better than the X10 Now, the hardware you're talking about is apparently much different than you expected...

unknown13x said:
There's some good news regarding the arc's price. However, it's still above his price range. However, the neo will fit better than the X10 Now, the hardware you're talking about is apparently much different than you expected...
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what hardware is apparently much different than we expected?

djandre said:
what hardware is apparently much different than we expected?
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Nothing. He's just saying that the newer models have better hardware specs than the x10...better screen with true multitouch, more optimized CPU, more RAM. It still remains to be seen how responsive they will be though.

I have the same dilemma.
I can not wait for two more months for the Arc or Neo. And their initial price will surely be real high.
Plus, I'm actually having 2nd thoughts if they would really perform as expected.
So I was thinking, if I could get an X10 now for half the price of the Arc, wait a few more months while watching the early birds get their hands on the new devices, then maybe after 6 months, if the Arc or Neo lived up to as promised, that's the time to buy either of the two. If not, I'll settle for my modded X10 or best, get an HTC.

I'd buy X10, if it costs 300 euros Arc will probably cost more than 500. OK, it's only a difference of 200 but you never know when you could need them
As I said in the past, the only good things of Arc (for me) are Gingerbread, Bravia display and HDMI. No double core processor, no more RAM, and no more quality in camera (no matter if it has Exmor technology). Multitouch isn't really needed. So let's say is not a significant improvement (MY opinion).
That's in case you want to save money and have a good phone at the same time. Otherwise, if you wanna spend more and have a high featured phone, HTC models are for you or you could even consider Motorola Atrix, those phones can offer you the same as Arc or even more for a similar price. However, if you still want to get a SE phone, you already know what your options are and what phones will come from this brand.
I also recommend you to read the specs. of each phone very closely.
Good luck in your decision

haha I just bought my first high end android phone, the AWESOME Xperia X10 for $200 on craigslist yesterday!! I LOVE IT!!! The difference between my old Galaxy I7500 and this phone is like the difference between a toyota corolla and a ferrari haha! I just upgraded to 2.1 and rooted and installed xrecovery with the dual touch and the jit! This phone is soooooooo fast!

Sony becoming HTC..More phones this year..WTH!

Sony about to unleash four new Android smartphones later this year
Sony has been on quite a roll. At least as far as mobile phone launches are concerned. This year alone, five handsets in different segments have been launched by the company. These range from the high-end Xperia Z and ZL to the mid-range Xperia SP to the low-tier Xperia E and Xperia L. But it seems the company is not stopping at just these five.
According to the rumour, a certain Sony Xperia A, codenamed Dogo, will be added to the Japanese carrier NTT DoCoMo’s line-up sometime in the summer months. It is said to have a 4.6-inch screen and is powered by a Qualcomm Snapdragon 600 processor. Other specs include 2GB of RAM, 32GB of native storage and a 2300 mAh battery capacity. The phone will be water and dust resistant, like the Xperia Z and Tablet Z, and will bring along support for NFC. An IR Blaster is also said to be aboard.
Also on the roadmap is the Sony Xperia UL, which we are dreading to see since it is codenamed Gaga. The phone is said to be very closely based on the Sony Xperia ZL and will also have a Qualcomm Snapdragon 600 under the hood. Other specs that have leaked of the Xperia UL say it will have 32GB of internal storage, 2GB of RAM and a 2300 mAh battery as well as NFC support.
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http://tech2.in.com/news/smartphone...ew-android-smartphones-later-this-year/855412
So they are just gonna churn out phones after phones..Xperia Z will be forgotten even before the end of the year this way..And apart from that..why so many phones? And with same capabilities of XZ? Whats wrong with sony..Htc just learnt its lesson!

Releases of new phones won't make your Z any worse, FYI.
As long as Sony release 4.2.2 and hopefully 5.0 there's nothing wrong with them spamming the market.

Its not just about firmware..If you release so many phones in the market the brand value of a flagship like XZ decreases as your giving same features and water/dust proofing on lower end phones.. what was so unique about XZ? this was one of the key factors.

Well Sony are not going competed in the mobile market only releasing a couple of handsets pair year. If they did they may as well just go home. Think Apple are the only manufacturer that could truly do that at present. Remember Sony are struggling at the moment. So if this is there business strategy then so be it. I still love my XZ price depreciation and all.
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Well company needs to capture the market, Z is already running on an old processor, flagship from HTC and Samsung are using faster processors already, they have to keep up the fight with them. That said i am sure Z will get upgraded to 5.0 and we should not care much about other phones.

XZ does not have an 'old' processor..Yes its S4 Pro but its clocked and implemented in such a way that its 2 time faster than nexus 4 with the same processor.
Everything can be run on an XZ that S4 and HTC one can do..There is nothing they can do extra. The jump from XZ to ONE is 30% and that is just benchmarks..In real life usage you will be able to use any app or game that the HTC ONE plays..Battery endurance test on gsm arena is same 48hr for both..Btw HTC ONE Gl graphics benchmark is just 30 fps..Which is lower than XZ
P.S- XZ is cheaper than HTC ONE AND S4...I got it for 644$ in my country..S4 and HTC ONE are coming for Around 773$

While I do understand you might feel bad that your Z will get outdated soon, you should also understand the situation Sony is in currently.
The Mobile business is THE most crucial business for Sony currently and their future depends on it. If they can consolidate market share further and grab the No.3 spot with a solid lead over HTC, Huawei, ZTE etc it will secure the future of Sony Group as a whole.
So new phones will definitely keep coming this year as Sony needs to survive.

I think it's a bad mistake. Dilution of the brand can never be a good idea. This is not a question about keeping up with the competition, if they wanted to do that, then they should have strived to release the Z with the 600 cpu. Releasing devices with that cpu in September or October will not make any impression because by then all eyes will have turned to the 800 cpu and whatever Qualcomm has to offer after that.
This strategy didn't turn out too well for the Xperia T, the phone that quick time forgot. Even the Xperia S is still regarded by most as Sony's flagship of 2012.
Sony should not get too involved in the spec race, well as far as cpus go anyway. The s4 pro on the Z is plenty fine and it's not it's weakness.
Sony's major problem is software development, everywhere you look the Xperia brand is being let down by software. Whether it be releasing phones with dated os and taking forever to update. The Xperia S is still waiting for JB while the galaxy s2, Samsung's phone of 2011 is about to get it if it hasn't already.
On top of that, you often get very weak software from Sony that takes ages for them to improve.
The software on my Z is its weakest link, whether it be the ui lag or the poor camera software that means you really have to take your time to get the best results from the camera.
Again and again, the hardware is being let down by the software.
Considering how lean and feature poor the Sony software is, it's really shockingly poor that it takes them so long to a) release stable builds and b) roll out updates.
Samsung's touchwiz is packed to the hilt with loads of software additions but yet, Samsung get it out quicker, up to date, and more stable than Sony can dream of right now.
For me, this is where Sony falls down really badly. They really need to bring in some excellent developers to turn things around.
Having a so called flagship waiting almost a year for a software update is just pathetic.
I said it before, I'll reserve my final judgement on the Z until I see the 4.2.2 software because I know it takes Sony linger than most to put out decent and stable software. Also the 4.1 has little or no software additions from Sony with the exception of the new launcher which I think is a bit ridiculous without an overview mode and the stamina mode and new camera app. Everything still looks the same from the gingerbread days.
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Too many new phones will simply mean delayed updates.
The r&d team remains the same.
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zodiac100 said:
Considering how lean and feature poor the Sony software is, it's really shockingly poor that it takes them so long to a) release stable builds and b) roll out updates.
Samsung's touchwiz is packed to the hilt with loads of software additions but yet, Samsung get it out quicker, up to date, and more stable than Sony can dream of right now.
For me, this is where Sony falls down really badly. They really need to bring in some excellent developers to turn things around.
Having a so called flagship waiting almost a year for a software update is just pathetic.
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I agree with your software complaint. The fact the camera takes 3 seconds to open is completely unacceptable, especially considering the Xperia S was so fast at booting up the camera. That said, I don't have too many problems with the software on the Z.
This is my first Sony smartphone, but I've noticed Sony almost always releases phones with outdated software AND dated computing hardware. The Xperia S was the first dual core Sony smartphone (I think) and it was months behind the Sensation, North American S2,and many others, all while having the same processor. Same goes for the Xperia T.
The fact that Sony intends to release so many phones this year probably has something to do with getting their high end devices to as many carriers/countries as possible. For instance, the Xperia Z isn't available in Canada. We're getting the ZL. In any event, coupling Sony's reputation for not releasing timely updates and the fact they're going to allegedly have 4-5 flagship devices this year, I'm not confident we're going to see many significant updates. Hopefully CM is able to keep us up to date!
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It isn't a new thing from Sony anyway... I have never use smartphone other than Sony 's for my entire life and it was since somewhere around x10 to x arc period they started to release phones to different target user like flagship, middle range and budget phones In each year.
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They simply replaced with smartphones their previous portfolio.
And this is natural. Every other OEM does that exept Apple.
This is good for the company to support all the market niches.

Would you rather they release phone to cater for everyone's budget OR be like apple and only sell expensive devices?
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^Seriously! Its not about them releasing multiple phones..Its about them releasing SO MANY phones..
Why not one for budget, mid-range and flagship? This is what i mean!

Simple. To make money. They know that if they release 12 phones in a year, for example, that 3 will sell REALLY well, 6/7 will sell fairly well and the remaining probably won't sell very well. But each one of those is still a sale which means more money for the company.
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The ZL is understandable as it's an experimental device to see how users react to the form factor. If it does well, I'm pretty certain Sony's flagship of 2014 will follow the same style. But if they release another flagship this year, that'll really piss me off, there is no need for a 600 cpu replacement for the Z. The Zs got all the raw power it needs. Flagship devices should stand for a year at least, the successful companies follow that principle. They can release a note style device this year but a new flagship smartphone, that demeans the Xperia brand, not to talk of the consequences for software support. They shouldn't go down that road again. Like I said before, software is their greatest weakness and I'd like to see signs that all resources are consolidated and brought to bare to offer the best possible user experience to a dedicated line of phones. If Sony don't address this software issue soon, I could conceivably go Samsung next year. HTC have proved that they don't quite no which way to go.
I also have a feeling that the gs4 will be the last cheap looking Samsung flagship we'll see. The s5 I expect will be different because it must be obvious to Samsung that that's it's weakest link too.
I also believe that Samsung is slowly beginning to accept that it's own proprietary stuff can't compete. We're likely to see them move away from super amoled to solux LCD displays and from exynos to snapdragon. We can see that happening already as 70% of s4s will use the 600 cpu. I don't think they'll have an exynos that can take on say a 2.3ghz cortex a15 snapdragon 800 cpu.
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What's wrong with releasing 4-6 phones a year ? They need to address the whole market, not only high-end devices, but also low-end, mid-end and entry level. Now people seem to have a problem with too many phones being released... seriously, what the hell has gotten into you people ?

Akiainavas said:
What's wrong with releasing 4-6 phones a year ? They need to address the whole market, not only high-end devices, but also low-end, mid-end and entry level. Now people seem to have a problem with too many phones being released... seriously, what the hell has gotten into you people ?
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But Sony is releasing 4-5 flagship devices. From the looks of it, 3 are coming out with the Qualcomm 600 cpu, and likely another with the Qualcomm 800 at the end of the year. Good for them but I suspect it will leave those of us with Xperia Z and ZL's waiting longer for updates.
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But Sony is releasing 4-5 flagship devices. From the looks of it, 3 are coming out with the Qualcomm 600 cpu, and likely another with the Qualcomm 800 at the end of the year. Good for them but I suspect it will leave those of us with Xperia Z and ZL's waiting longer for updates.
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Then wouldn't the obvious demand is for sony to hire more software engineer than to demands that they stop making more phone?
Other thing from other post is that isn't The other obvious answer on why they cant just release 3 phone a year for different price range is because HTC has done it with their one series and by the looks of it, the strategy fails miserably.
And I think from the time of the arc, sony had released 2 flagship a year, so not sure why people still think they will only do just one. The thing about sony is it main market are where people buy PAYG and without subsidies. So people are really price sensitive. Releasing 2 flagship would land sony as the cheapest but most powerful phone on the block. The Z here in Malaysia can be bought at around us550. Making it slightly more expensive than the nexus 4 and S3. The hTC one and S4 are a cool us200 more. The xperia V, which are much better than the s3 is now at US300, making it even cheaper than the S2.
Interesting enough by doing what a lot of people here hates, sony climb to number 2 spot just behind Samsung, while HTC with their one series experiment that people here seems to love drop even lower. So I guess, they are on the right track.
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All it looks like they're doing is throwing loads of phones out on the market and hoping one sticks and becomes successful.
The more devices they release the more delays it will cause with updates.
Bad move in my opinion but they obviously know better.
You do get the sense though with Sony that once a new mobile comes out their 'previous flagship' is dropped like a sack of *bleep* and it takes forever for anything to be updated.

Sony Xperia UL launched with full-HD screen and quad-core processor

http://gadgets.ndtv.com/mobiles/new...full-hd-screen-and-quad-core-processor-369016
So Sony has done it again n again! What is the meaning of coming out with 2 phones with similar specs that too in less that 3 months of time! Sony ,please where is 4.2.2? Please do provide updates first rather than coming out with multiple similar phones.. :crying:

So... its wrong for them to do this when every other manufacturer is doing this?
As I understand it, this is for Japanese markets only (specifically AU by KDDI), no indication that this is meant to be an international release.

What's wrong with you people?
Instead of getting worried and angry because a new phone comes, why don't you try to enjoy your phone?

The Xperia Z still looks sexier, and i don't think there will be any phone as sexy as the XZ for sometime

There is nothing wrong with the same phone different style...I love the Zs style muchhhh better anyway

pandaball said:
So... its wrong for them to do this when every other manufacturer is doing this?
As I understand it, this is for Japanese markets only (specifically AU by KDDI), no indication that this is meant to be an international release.
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Agreed they’re all as bad as each other. Look at Samsung they bring out the s4 everyone rushes out and buys it, then 1 month later the first picture of the S4 Active come out!
http://crave.cnet.co.uk/mobiles/samsung-galaxy-s4-active-leaks-better-looking-than-the-s4-50011270/

Integrated TV anttena is only thing I feel UL is better than my XZ...
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So... we can forget about Android 4.3... 5.0... etc...

I prefer my xperia z:good:

This phone is a special model intended for legacy cdmaOne networks that have added LTE for data but haven't moved the voice traffic onto LTE yet.

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http://gadgets.ndtv.com/mobiles/new...full-hd-screen-and-quad-core-processor-369016
So Sony has done it again n again! What is the meaning of coming out with 2 phones with similar specs that too in less that 3 months of time! Sony ,please where is 4.2.2? Please do provide updates first rather than coming out with multiple similar phones.. :crying:
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Now I agree with someone elses comment about Sony being like HTC. Bad move because it hasn't helped HTC at all EVER!!!
Flooding the market with Many different models that a similar just confuses people, doesn't directly contribute to larger market share.
One great model and one or two of cheaper alternatives works extremely well. Look at Apple and Samsung, the two at the top by a long shot.
On the bright side so far it doesn't appear to have the next generation CPU

danw_oz said:
Now I agree with someone elses comment about Sony being like HTC. Bad move because it hasn't helped HTC at all EVER!!!
Flooding the market with many different models just confuses people, doesn't directly contribute to larger market share.
One great model and one or two of cheaper alternatives works extremely well. Look at Apple and Samsung, the two at the top by a long shot.
On the bright side so far it doesn't appear to have the next generation CPU
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Uhh, Samsung actually disproves your theory. They flood the market with everything.
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Flooding in market with different model and spec actually give user more choices. I don't see any wrong with this.
Samsung did this brilliantly success.

Clearly just a side-grade (if not downgrade) from our Z. It's much uglier too. I'm surprised it doesn't even have snapdragon 600. I guess that's a relief though.

arvin2212 said:
The Xperia Z still looks sexier, and i don't think there will be any phone as sexy as the XZ for sometime
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ZL

DoubleYouPee said:
ZL
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ZL size with Z body...perfect match

pandaball said:
Uhh, Samsung actually disproves your theory. They flood the market with everything.
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Hahaha, true, but from a different angle. I just saw that the S4 has already shipped 10 Million units Today

Samsung releases gAlaxy s4 and then they ll release s4 pro, s4 plus, s4 minus ,mini, s4 Active, s4 inactive ,whatever day want..jus hopeless products
Sony ul doesnt seem to be less worthier than z in anyway..its one and d same. But only one in sony s products has got the name "the best of sony" "sony s flagship".
So chill out if any phones of sony beats xz then , the name "flagship" will be no more for xz.so no need to worry about our xz gettin outdated.
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JPWOA said:
ZL size with Z body...perfect match
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No because Z's body is too big

danw_oz said:
Hahaha, true, but from a different angle. I just saw that the S4 has already shipped 10 Million units Today
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The reason why Samsung controls such a large portion of the Android market is not because of their top-end phones, but their low-end phones that are bought by a lot of people in poorer countries like China and India. That's partially the reason why adoption for ICS and JB each are lower than GB: most of the phones sold are low-end ones, as much as people hate to admit that.

Xperia Z3 expected at the IFA 2014 IN August!!!

Just a couple of weeks old, the Xperia Z2 and Sony is already working on its newest flagship, the Sony xperia Z3.
What is expected??
Brand new design,
Newer display technology,
Faster CPU/GPU
More ram and more internal memory!
Why is Sony working so rapidly with flagships?
Director Kurozumi Yoshiro told Japanese media, that with all the technical evolutions in mobile devices, it's too hard to compete with a yearly cycle, so that they are forced to go ahead with a 6 month cycle, to make sure, Sony is still in competition!
What are your thoughts, your expectations and your wishes for the new upcoming "Z" device?
Drop your comments

If they could keep the software up to date on the "obsolete" £500 6 month old handsets with features and bug fixes then great. But they're going too fast and leaving people with expensive handsets with half finished, broken or missing software features. Hardware tends to be on the better side, imo
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Could this be a possible new design sony will be revealing?
A display with no edges and no bezels?
What are we to expect when there is a complete new design being worked on?

slim207rc said:
Could this be a possible new design sony will be revealing?
A display with no edges and no bezels?
What are we to expect when there is a complete new design being worked on?
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I can guarantee you that that isn't the device that's going to be released as the Z3. Not to be rude, but no one here will have a clue what the Z3 or any future device is going to be. (or they do know, but can't say)

Read what I wrote. I did not say it's the device, I just asked if this could be a possible design!
Just to make sure there are no misunderstandings!!!
Regards!!
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aooga said:
I can guarantee you that that isn't the device that's going to be released as the Z3. Not to be rude, but no one here will have a clue what the Z3 or any future device is going to be. (or they do know, but can't say)
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I can guess it's omnibalance design

Can't believe what Sony is doing right now, I understand that you plan ahead on future products but this is too soon especially seing as the Z1 came out in October and now Z2 . I remember getting a pone and using it at least 12months before feeling outdated

Not at all impressed. The biggest issue is that the flagship we bring now won't be the most important 6 months down the line, and hence we won't get updates too quick (same with Samsung as well, though they tend to update both Note and S flagships together.), which is extremely stupid and a reason why I might move away from Sony.

well... i cant afford buying a new phone that often.... and i dont plan to for the future... i have had the arc s, S, Z and now Z1... maybe i will wait until the Z4 arrives before buying my next phone hehe

At last who cares about Z3? I don't, I care about Z1 and some aspects of Z2, just to compare them both. We have to focus to develop a massive Developing Section for Z1, this is what we should do now.

All ive got to say is Sony really lol
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good luck sony ,this is my last sony phone cracker jack toy,

slim207rc said:
Just a couple of weeks old, the Xperia Z2 and Sony is already working on its newest flagship, the Sony xperia Z3.
What is expected??
Brand new design,
Newer display technology,
Faster CPU/GPU
More ram and more internal memory!
Why is Sony working so rapidly with flagships?
Director Kurozumi Yoshiro told Japanese media, that with all the technical evolutions in mobile devices, it's too hard to compete with a yearly cycle, so that they are forced to go ahead with a 6 month cycle, to make sure, Sony is still in competition!
What are your thoughts, your expectations and your wishes for the new upcoming "Z" device?
Drop your comments
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You know who hates this more than users trying to keep up with next big thing? Stores who have inventory that's at risk of being discounted every 6 months vs every year. If I were stocking Sony I'd have a very strong contractual obligation that Sony covers the costs of big wholesale price decreases. Either that or I'd stock a very small amount of devices.
It's hard enough getting Sony phones in the States. Stuff like this is another reason retailers and carriers will not want to carry them.
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slim207rc said:
Just a couple of weeks old, the Xperia Z2 and Sony is already working on its newest flagship, the Sony xperia Z3.
What is expected??
Brand new design,
Newer display technology,
Faster CPU/GPU
More ram and more internal memory!
Why is Sony working so rapidly with flagships?
Director Kurozumi Yoshiro told Japanese media, that with all the technical evolutions in mobile devices, it's too hard to compete with a yearly cycle, so that they are forced to go ahead with a 6 month cycle, to make sure, Sony is still in competition!
What are your thoughts, your expectations and your wishes for the new upcoming "Z" device?
Drop your comments
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Source?

Jiyeon90 said:
Source?
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There is no source for sure.
BTW, I predict the future too, I see Z5 in 2015. :cyclops:
..LOL..

eclyptos said:
There is no source for sure.
BTW, I predict the future too, I see Z5 in 2015. :cyclops:
..LOL..
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galaxy s to s5 took 5 years, z to z5 in 2 years, really sony is catching up

Going by what they said about releasing a flagship every six months, im pretty sure the Z3 is coming this year
But i wonder how long can Sony keep this rhythm
By next year we'll have 5 flaships still elegible for updates, not counting the rest of the Sony lineup
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Jiyeon90 said:
Source?
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A German android blog, who were at a conference where this was mentioned!
www.go2android.de/sony-xperia-z3-soll-schon-im-august-kommen/
It's not the only source, but it's the only source I am able to give you!!
I don't know when I can say more. But there is a lot more about this!
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aygriffith said:
You know who hates this more than users trying to keep up with next big thing? Stores who have inventory that's at risk of being discounted every 6 months vs every year. If I were stocking Sony I'd have a very strong contractual obligation that Sony covers the costs of big wholesale price decreases. Either that or I'd stock a very small amount of devices.
It's hard enough getting Sony phones in the States. Stuff like this is another reason retailers and carriers will not want to carry them.
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Well I have other sources, where people will be surprised and probably real mad, because other companies are thinking about starting the same tactics with 6 month flagships!
Can't mention who, but those are really big known high end producers
Sony is just the first to start off!
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slim207rc said:
Can't mention who, but those are really big known high end producers
Sony is just the first to start off!
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Ok, but this is not good at all!