Hello,
I bought an acer A500 which was under HC 3.2, may be 3.0.
I have rooted it, and tried some ROM.
I used this tuto :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1307539&highlight=root+without+downgrade
after few ROM test, I have choosed, for the moment, the latest flexReaper (1.031...)
I have Acer Recovery, which allow me to reboot easily in recovery mode.
now, after reading several post here, I have few question :
how can I know if my bootloader is HC or ICS ?
how can I know the version number of this bootloader ?
can I change the bootloader to another version , keeping the actual ROM ?
can I install a new bootloader with CWM ?
I have a CWM rev 1.3.4 by thor2002ro. is it good ? there is better than this ?
is the bootloader able to change the performance of the tablet ?
or just the kernel / Rom can do it ?
many thank you for any answer.
Olivier
orobin said:
Hello,
I bought an acer A500 which was under HC 3.2, may be 3.0.
I have rooted it, and tried some ROM.
I used this tuto :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1307539&highlight=root+without+downgrade
after few ROM test, I have choosed, for the moment, the latest flexReaper (1.031...)
I have Acer Recovery, which allow me to reboot easily in recovery mode.
now, after reading several post here, I have few question :
how can I know if my bootloader is HC or ICS ?
how can I know the version number of this bootloader ?
can I change the bootloader to another version , keeping the actual ROM ?
can I install a new bootloader with CWM ?
I have a CWM rev 1.3.4 by thor2002ro. is it good ? there is better than this ?
is the bootloader able to change the performance of the tablet ?
or just the kernel / Rom can do it ?
many thank you for any answer.
Olivier
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If you haven't flash an ICS Bootloader, or a Stock ICS Beta rom, then you have a stock Acer Bootloader.
To change bootloaders, you generally run the bootloader.zip through CWM/RA immediately after installing the rom, according to this post;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1517181
You have an old CWM recovery. You can either goto Tegraowners and upgrade to a newer version, or Flash RA Recovery from here through your current CWM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22392691&postcount=104
Your choice.
Kernels generally change the performance, although a well coded rom also plays a factor.
orobin said:
how can I know if my bootloader is HC or ICS ?
how can I know the version number of this bootloader ?
many thank you for any answer.
Olivier
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If you have Acer Recovery Installer v2.74 it tells you what bootloader version you're running, as well as the recovery version.
Hello,
just to be sure :
>stock ICS beta rom :
are more for developper, isn't it ? I read in some post that it was for development only.
flexReaper, Tabooney Icylicious are not stock ICS beta ??? isn't it ?
> or Flash RA Recovery from here through your current CWM
I have installed acer rovery installer 2.74 from the market.
with that, I have flash clockWorldMod recovery rev 1.3.4 by Thor2002ro.
under this tool, I can see : bootloader version 3.01
my rom is the latest flexReaper.
what do you think of that ? can I upgrade or do something better ?
thank you for any help.
Olivier
orobin said:
Hello,
just to be sure :
>stock ICS beta rom :
are more for developper, isn't it ? I read in some post that it was for development only.
flexReaper, Tabooney Icylicious are not stock ICS beta ??? isn't it ?
> or Flash RA Recovery from here through your current CWM
I have installed acer rovery installer 2.74 from the market.
with that, I have flash clockWorldMod recovery rev 1.3.4 by Thor2002ro.
under this tool, I can see : bootloader version 3.01
my rom is the latest flexReaper.
what do you think of that ? can I upgrade or do something better ?
thank you for any help.
Olivier
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If you would open a rom.zip you would see that the custom roms got no bootloader .blob and recovery to be installed.
That is so you would be able to flash without problems what you want.
Flexreaper, Icylisiuos , Lightspeed, and taboonay are all custom roms that can be installed with cwm or ra recovery and now the new twr recovery.
What is the best custom ICS rom , well all custom roms on here have there quality and is more up to the user what he or she wants.
ok, so I will look for bootloader more update than mine in this case.
the Rom Flexreaper I use during few days works very well, and now I am looking for the best bootloader and kernel to work with taht rom
anyway, good point, I should have look inside the zip file of a rom !
thanks
olivier
You don't need to update the bootloader. It will make no difference in the performance of the kernel or ROM. If you do update the ICS bootloader, you'll need to udpate the kernel to work with it and you will not be able to go back to an HC based ROM.
Just keep your 3.01 bootloader and use custom HC or ICS Roms until Acer releases ICS.
Hi
Well this helped me.
Because of all these terms are confusing in the beginning.
And a lot is all spread around this forum.
For noobs like me some terms like bootloader and wath to watch out for should be stickyd.
Well up to next page of reading hehe
Thx
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Unfortunatelly I don't have permissions to reply in this topic, so I created this one.
I have Installed CM7.2 (from Quarx) on stable recovery and ICS to latest recovery. I use multiboot for this.
Everything worked good, but one of the newest version of ICS has newer kernel, so after I choose it phone just stucks at Moto logo...
So I have 2 questions:
1) Is it possible to get working new ICS on multiboot?
2) If no, how can I delete ICS from latest recovery and install there other firmware?
Thanks
AstorDev said:
Unfortunatelly I don't have permissions to reply in this topic, so I created this one.
I have Installed CM7.2 (from Quarx) on stable recovery and ICS to latest recovery. I use multiboot for this.
Everything worked good, but one of the newest version of ICS has newer kernel, so after I choose it phone just stucks at Moto logo...
So I have 2 questions:
1) Is it possible to get working new ICS on multiboot?
2) If no, how can I delete ICS from latest recovery and install there other firmware?
Thanks
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Nope its not possible to have the newer versions including 111207 on multiboot!
to get rid of ICS in the latest boot you can just flash an other .zip over it, like miui or stuff...
hope it helped, greetz Esok
It is possible
Yes, it is possible. The only vital pre-requisite is to upgrade the main CM7 system to 2.3.4 kernel version.
But before, take care of:
1. The 2.3.4 kernel has some issue regarding camera, specially green lens (I think it doesn't work yet). Red lens work great, after a few work around with some overlay libs. (all this stuff very well described on CM7 thread).
2. Once you upgrade the kernel, you could install CM9 latest test builds.
pros:
- both systems running latest GB kernel (remember be sure to use 2.3.4)
- great to have CM7 and CM9.
cons:
- be sure to fix your camera in CM7. (of course, hope you have red lens )
- in my case: CM9 boot, but it doesn't detect the baseband (if I check "About phone" Baseband details show "Unknown"). WiFi work Ok.
I really appreciate any advice in this last comment.
Happy holidays
Hey
I just got a brand new Defy and I'm hoping I can get ICS on it. However, in my country there's no T-Mobile, Verizon, Orange or whatever, I bought it in an electronics store, so I have absolutely no idea about what CG version it is. I've already read the beginner's guide from top to bottom, but I still have some doubts:
1. How do I know which CG version do I have? (I need to know so I can know how to get back to stock in case of warranty)
Nevermind, I found the answer >_> CG 4 SBF 3.4.2 (Froyo)
2. I've seen lots of ROMs for this device, but their instructions aren't very clear and I don't want to brick my device (which, from what I've read it is very hard to do) or get stuck in a higher CG version.
3. The beginner's guide is cool, but I haven't seen any tutorials on installing a specific rom (in my case ICS) so, I'd appreciate some pointers here, if possible
Thanks in advance! =)
- DARKGuy
I have a defy+, so i have 2.3.6 on it. But you don't need to flash any new firmware to get ICS or MIUI, since they both have froyo builds. CG version only changes when you flash full SBF, not when installing zips and custom ROMs. So you shouldn't worry about getting stuck on a higher CG.
So what you need of course is a rooted phone , the SndInitDefy_2.0.apk (to install custom recovery and bootmenu because of locked bootloader), install the latest bootmenu (don't mind installing the old one although it might work on froyo). And there you're ready to flash! (to enter custom recovery on your defy, reboot your phone and press the volume down key when you see the blue led) I assume you know how to use the custom recovery, so I won't go into detail on that.
Since I haven't flashed any froyo ICS builds before, I don't dare to tell you how to myself! So just head over to the main CM9 ICS thread You'll find a guide in the first post. Nevermind, i'll just quote it here:
nogoodusername said:
How to flash ICS (Defy Builds)
1:Head Over To Stable recovery
2:Wipe Data
3:Install Zip from SD Card
4:Select ICS(Defy) .zip
5:Flash
6:Flash CM7 Kernel
7:Clear Cache and Dalvik Cache
First Boot will take some time...
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You need to flash Google Apps seperately through recovery. You should find the files and links needed in the thread linked above. Know the difference between the Defy+ builds (with gingerbread [gb] kernel), and the Defy builds with froyo kernel.
Please note that ICS for defy is still in it's early stages and you might experience bugs. But most people still think it's worth it! xD Sorry if I made it too detailed for you, but then others can make use of it too! Oh, I hope I haven't said wrong that will soft brick your phone! Flashing the wrong kernel always gives me bootloader error! Anyway bricking really isn't that scary (only the first time i can confirm) It's good to have an SBF with RSDLite and Drivers installed on your PC just in case
Oh! And then If you want MIUI, just do the normal wipes and flash the ROM. Let me recommend MIUI Pikachu edition by TweetyPeety, the best MIUI ROM out there! It even has the touch based AROMA installer in recovery where you can customize the installation!
I was wandering if there is any advantage in flashing a newer kernel (either CM9 kernel or a GB full SBF) on defy if I'm using CM7/CM9/MIUI
Also, I tried CM9 without flashing the kernel, and it works, so I can't figure what difference would that step make. How does changing the default kernel affect the use of custom roms? Any hit in performance/usability? Would I have to use Defy+ roms if I flash CM9 kernel?
Persechini said:
I was wandering if there is any advantage in flashing a newer kernel (either CM9 kernel or a GB full SBF) on defy if I'm using CM7/CM9/MIUI
Also, I tried CM9 without flashing the kernel, and it works, so I can't figure what difference would that step make. How does changing the default kernel affect the use of custom roms? Any hit in performance/usability? Would I have to use Defy+ roms if I flash CM9 kernel?
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I think you shouldn't flash new kernel for CM9 since it is in alpha
it is better to keep on CM7.1 and wait until a stable version from CM9 (unless you are a real HW or SW developer)
Hi everyone,
First I should say that I searched and read tons of posts before posting this question so please keep the flaming at a minimum.. thank you...
I have an Xperia Arc currently running the following:
Stock ICS Beta Kernel With CWM 5.5.0
Acronium ICS Beta ROM 2.2
Baseband that ends with .56
After trying ICS for a while I've decided that it is way too buggy for daily use. I want to go back to GB. I want to use Arconium 8.2 with DoomKernel V22...
The problem is.. I am trying to flash baseband 34(or 36 i can't remember).. I try flashing with FlashTool.. no go.. it seems to flash alright but when I boot the os.. the baseband still shows .56...
I try flashing DoomKernel V22.. and after a reboot I still see my old ICS Beta Kernel...
Am I doing something wrong here? All I want is a kernel that permits overclocking and Arconium 8.2...
Please help if you can... Thank you..
First install a clean .62 FW on your arc, then flash doomkernel v22. Go in recovery mode and install the wifi modules for v22. Now you go in fastboot mode and flash de baseband, after that go in recovery mode and install the baseband patch. Now you start your phone and look if everything is okay. After that you can install Arconium.
Thanks for the response Spit.. can you please clarify what you mean by fw .62?
PrimaryMaster said:
Thanks for the response Spit.. can you please clarify what you mean by fw .62?
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The Firmware version i mean (The last two numbers of the build version). The kernel only works on FW:.42/.58/.62 from Gingerbread. U can use Flashtool to flash it. After that you flash the doomlord kernel.
Hi guys,
I've a rooted Liberty Tab with Acer A500 HC 3.2.1 and a full nandroid backup to go back to PB stock ROM.
I would like to update to ICS, but I know that ICS requires a new bootloader, and as far as I understand, it's not possible to revert back to HC bootloader.
Is this right?
The first choice I have is to update my tablet with a modded A500 ICS rom, and I will loose (forever) my PB HC bootloader.
Otherwise I can go back to stock PB rom, accept PB 3.2.1 update and wait for PB ICS OTA (does it exists?)
Any other suggestion?
Is it stable to use ICS with HC bootloader? I didn't understand if it's ok or it's only a workaround but not stable.
Many thanks!
Hi,
you can use, as an example, the Flexreaper Rom with the HC Bootloader without any probs. The Rom has an autodetection for the bootloader and installs the right Kernel accordingly.
I did this from the beginning of the Flexreaper Rom until last R12.5.
Last week I decided to change the Bootloader to the ICS V3 patched. The same way I installed the V3 pathed ICS Bootloader, could be used also to flashe the HC bootloader back. But as mentioned, not really needed.
The Flexreaper Rom is excellent, give it a try.
BR
Gountled
Hi to all
After Testing many methods for installing Bootloaders and Different roms, I finally Got TWRP 2.3.3 + Honeycomb 3.2.1 (provided by root-3.2.1-V4 Working together fine.
Very strangely, When I try to flash Any AROMA-INSTALLER enabled ICS or Jellybean rom, Aroma installer Freezes in TWRP 2.3.3 and Other Civato-based roms flash but Nothing loads.
TWRP 2.3.3 is installed based on Skriylax_CS Bootloader V8.
.. ALL Honeycomb Roms install and work just fine.
Who knows what could be the problem? .
Thanks
Is your recovery.
the_hurricane_master said:
Hi to all
After Testing many methods for installing Bootloaders and Different roms, I finally Got TWRP 2.3.3 + Honeycomb 3.2.1 (provided by root-3.2.1-V4 Working together fine.
Very strangely, When I try to flash Any AROMA-INSTALLER enabled ICS or Jellybean rom, Aroma installer Freezes in TWRP 2.3.3 and Other Civato-based roms flash but Nothing loads.
TWRP 2.3.3 is installed based on Skriylax_CS Bootloader V8.
.. ALL Honeycomb Roms install and work just fine.
Who knows what could be the problem? .
Thanks
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Hello only certain recoveries work with ICS. download Acer Recovery Installer from the store and choose one of the recoveries from the list they provide.