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Hi All, so its been 10 months almost since I purchased by Bravo, and am thinking to upgrading to a Defy, however... in GSM Arena, it is listed that the bravo has a 2gb Rom versus the 1gb for the Defy. Is this true? I was not able to find anything on Motorola.com to confirm this.
Would you recommend switching to a Defy, if so which version (+, xt)?
marcelarr said:
Hi All, so its been 10 months almost since I purchased by Bravo, and am thinking to upgrading to a Defy, however... in GSM Arena, it is listed that the bravo has a 2gb Rom versus the 1gb for the Defy. Is this true? I was not able to find anything on Motorola.com to confirm this.
Would you recommend switching to a Defy, if so which version (+, xt)?
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I say keep your bravo. There's a good enough community here behind it with good ROMs to choose from. You can get Miui, CM7, CM9, CM10, and I think bandroidx's custom rom is still here (obsolete, but if you like MotoBlur, go for it).
They DEFY (+, xt) and the BRAVO have the same amount of RAM (~512mb) and internal storage space (2gb). However, the DEFY has Corning Gorilla Glass, which is super scratch resistant and tough, and prevents dust according to GSMarena. The DEFY also has a 4th capacitive button, the search button (which isn't really necessary in my opinion).
There might be other interface differences but I've never played with a DEFY so I don't know. I do know that the Bravo is a really good phone and that this Bravo community is amazing. We could have a really slow, BLUR using, battery draining Bravo, but instead we can have a lightning fast one with all the features of the latest smartphones (ex: most phones with android 4.1.1).
That's my opinion. Good luck with your decision!
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I say keep your bravo. There's a good enough community here behind it with good ROMs to choose from. You can get Miui, CM7, CM9, CM10, and I think bandroidx's custom rom is still here (obsolete, but if you like MotoBlur, go for it).
They DEFY (+, xt) and the BRAVO have the same amount of RAM (~512mb) and internal storage space (2gb). However, the DEFY has Corning Gorilla Glass, which is super scratch resistant and tough, and prevents dust according to GSMarena. The DEFY also has a 4th capacitive button, the search button (which isn't really necessary in my opinion).
There might be other interface differences but I've never played with a DEFY so I don't know. I do know that the Bravo is a really good phone and that this Bravo community is amazing. We could have a really slow, BLUR using, battery draining Bravo, but instead we can have a lightning fast one with all the features of the latest smartphones (ex: most phones with android 4.1.1).
That's my opinion. Good luck with your decision!
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Thanks for the input. I absolutley ADORE my bravo... I currently have Quarxs 4.0 Installed and am happy with it. The only think I dislike about it is the camera... kinda wish it had flash and was 5mpx... that was the major reason for changing.
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However, the DEFY has Corning Gorilla Glass, which is super scratch resistant and tough, and prevents dust according to GSMarena.
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Thought I should mention that according to the Corning web site our Bravo also has gorilla glass! Look!
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Thought I should mention that according to the Corning web site our Bravo also has gorilla glass! Look!
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I did not know that. Thanks! I agree on the better camera with flash though. If I took more pictures I would pick defy over bravo.
I'd just stick with the Bravo unless you find a cheap Defy. There aren't that many differences between the Defy and the Bravo -- Defy is waterproof\dustproof, has a better camera with flash, search button, official moto GB kernel, and all other differences are in the CG levels and partition signatures, etc. Now that we have custom kernels the differences will soon become just the search button and camera. I'll even go so far as to say that our roms will be interchangeable without porting once Quarx gets the custom kernel fine tuned with some Bravo support. As it is, the only reason we have to "port" the Defy roms is to add in our camera driver -- every other code for the most part is shared between the two phones, or actually, shared by the Moto Omap 3630 devices since they use the Defy team's code as well.
Ya gotta love our devs working their butts off to get us working CM7\9\10\11?? roms on the most locked down devices on the market and doing a better job at it than devs on fully unlocked phones. They're awesome. :good:
On another note, almost done with a new 7 port. I've added a lot of tweaks and mods and I'm adding the final touches to it today. I'm having a bit of hell trying to get the ICS framework animations to work on GB, once that's done, I should be done. I really don't care for the flip animations that the CM.com Defy 10\28 rom has and I plan to use the 7 port until PA is back in business. I'm going for a CM7 rom that looks like CM9\10, inverted gapps (almost all of them), tons of init scripts, tweaked for speed & battery life, and use the latest CM10 bootmenu so this 7 can be used a stable base to test 10 roms with. I'm gonna release the rom as a nandroid backup since I'm doing a few tweaks that require either sqlite3 database init scripts (a pita) or instructions on what settings to change to what to have the full experience I'm trying to provide.
I'll be including Holo Launcher (I own the Pro version ) so if you don't like it then install something else, though I recommend Holo Pro since its a very good, fast, and stable launcher on both GB and ICS\JB roms. Holo works better than Trebuchet on PA. Also including MiFileExplorer instead of File Manager (it sucks), Sonny's ICS theme with the additional framework\metamorph addons (no more black on black notification text), SuperSu instead of Superuser (with the updated su binary), gapps (most are inverted) preinstalled, ICS framework animations, and more.
Anyone have any suggestions as to what they want in a CM7 rom??? You'll have about 6 hours from the time of this post to let me know :silly:.
/I could start up a new cm7 thread for most of this post, but I'll just hijack one of my older cm7 threads when I release the rom, until then I'll just post crap in random places.
What do you think about Pimp My Rom?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1908269
I've been using it without any issues and it has various init.d scripts and tons of other tweaks along with it. It's worked with each CM rom I've used, so I'm wondering if that will save you some work, rather than have you write all the scripts yourself.
That's my two cents. Good luck and thanks! You never fail to impress us!
Thanks!
skeevy420 said:
I'd just stick with the Bravo unless you find a cheap Defy. There aren't that many differences between the Defy and the Bravo -- Defy is waterproof\dustproof, has a better camera with flash, search button, official moto GB kernel, and all other differences are in the CG levels and partition signatures, etc. Now that we have custom kernels the differences will soon become just the search button and camera. I'll even go so far as to say that our roms will be interchangeable without porting once Quarx gets the custom kernel fine tuned with some Bravo support. As it is, the only reason we have to "port" the Defy roms is to add in our camera driver -- every other code for the most part is shared between the two phones, or actually, shared by the Moto Omap 3630 devices since they use the Defy team's code as well.
Ya gotta love our devs working their butts off to get us working CM7\9\10\11?? roms on the most locked down devices on the market and doing a better job at it than devs on fully unlocked phones. They're awesome. :good:
On another note, almost done with a new 7 port. I've added a lot of tweaks and mods and I'm adding the final touches to it today. I'm having a bit of hell trying to get the ICS framework animations to work on GB, once that's done, I should be done. I really don't care for the flip animations that the CM.com Defy 10\28 rom has and I plan to use the 7 port until PA is back in business. I'm going for a CM7 rom that looks like CM9\10, inverted gapps (almost all of them), tons of init scripts, tweaked for speed & battery life, and use the latest CM10 bootmenu so this 7 can be used a stable base to test 10 roms with. I'm gonna release the rom as a nandroid backup since I'm doing a few tweaks that require either sqlite3 database init scripts (a pita) or instructions on what settings to change to what to have the full experience I'm trying to provide.
I'll be including Holo Launcher (I own the Pro version ) so if you don't like it then install something else, though I recommend Holo Pro since its a very good, fast, and stable launcher on both GB and ICS\JB roms. Holo works better than Trebuchet on PA. Also including MiFileExplorer instead of File Manager (it sucks), Sonny's ICS theme with the additional framework\metamorph addons (no more black on black notification text), SuperSu instead of Superuser (with the updated su binary), gapps (most are inverted) preinstalled, ICS framework animations, and more.
Anyone have any suggestions as to what they want in a CM7 rom??? You'll have about 6 hours from the time of this post to let me know :silly:.
/I could start up a new cm7 thread for most of this post, but I'll just hijack one of my older cm7 threads when I release the rom, until then I'll just post crap in random places.
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Thanks for your sharing your point of veiw... I am looking for a cheap Defy... but think I will keep my Bravo also!!
Thanks for all your hard work on CM7!
marcelarr said:
Thanks for your sharing your point of veiw... I am looking for a cheap Defy... but think I will keep my Bravo also!!
Thanks for all your hard work on CM7!
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Well, now that I have a Defy....Defy is better. Get it, you won't be disappointed. My comparison -- Defy feels more durable while holding it, Torch is awesome, the waterproof\dustproof covers (usb, headphone, battery cover) are annoying but worth it. My only issue is really a non issue -- I have to add in the correct battd (I recieved a greenlens Defy, using my Bravo's battery which is the same as 525 Defy and JB 2nd-boot uses 526 Defy+ battd). I'll end up getting a 526 battery, although our BF5X batteries can be picked up for $4 (~$6 after shipping).
Bravo is well worth keeping -- useful for testing roms, backup phone, etc. I'd never get rid of my Bravo, its too good of a phone.
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Well, now that I have a Defy....Defy is better. Get it, you won't be disappointed. My comparison -- Defy feels more durable while holding it, Torch is awesome, the waterproof\dustproof covers (usb, headphone, battery cover) are annoying but worth it. My only issue is really a non issue -- I have to add in the correct battd (I recieved a greenlens Defy, using my Bravo's battery which is the same as 525 Defy and JB 2nd-boot uses 526 Defy+ battd). I'll end up getting a 526 battery, although our BF5X batteries can be picked up for $4 (~$6 after shipping).
Bravo is well worth keeping -- useful for testing roms, backup phone, etc. I'd never get rid of my Bravo, its too good of a phone.
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Good to know you own a Defy now, I think you will improve more your knowledges about Android, as we all know Defy has a more activity which is good to learn more following the steps of Quarx.
Hope you still work with us and our lovely bravo.
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Good to know you own a Defy now, I think you will improve more your knowledges about Android, as we all know Defy has a more activity which is good to learn more following the steps of Quarx.
Hope you still work with us and our lovely bravo.
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I plan on it , but CM10 on the Bravo is gonna take a back seat for the moment. I've put 2+ weeks into getting it to function properly and haven't made any headway on it....I gotta get to updating PA since its starting to fall way behind. As is, the only way I can improve my Android knowledge is to get a uart board (for kernel debugging) and some books on C and Java. Merging code is one thing, writing it is a whole different story.
//Plus I only have one battery for two phones....Need to get another battery for my Bravo. Also, here's a pic of my Bravo so you all know what I've been working with for the past 6 months.
Dear everyone here,
I'm a newbie and bit of a n00b here.
My goal: I have Nook Color and want to put a stable ROM on it. It would be great if it can be stable, fast and Jelly Bean (CM10)!
I know the last official stable CM ROM is 7.2, Gingerbread. Didn't try it on Nook, yet.
I was following this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1941247 and tried CM10 nighty (ver. 11. Dec 2012). This was my first Nook Color ROM ever. Everything I've tried was ok, but it's very slow and I can't really use it. Are there any ROMs that are faster, with no leg?
So, please guys, who have tried different ROMs, please suggest me a good working (stable) and fast (no lag). CM10 would be great, if not please feel free to suggest (with a link provided).
Otherwise, I would try CM 7.2, which is a "phone" OS, not that suitable for tablets.
Thanks a lot!
you have to remember that the hardware you have only has a stock, single core 800mhz processor. you wont get any smoother than the latest nightly. i suggest that you do a clean flash of the latest nightly and then go to settings>performance>processor and set your cpu governor to performance and set the max frequency to 1100mhz
you have to remember that this is hardware from late 2010, two year old hardware, it performes well, but it cant compete with the nexus devices.
That Baker Guy said:
you have to remember that the hardware you have only has a stock, single core 800mhz processor. you wont get any smoother than the latest nightly. i suggest that you do a clean flash of the latest nightly and then go to settings>performance>processor and set your cpu governor to performance and set the max frequency to 1100mhz
you have to remember that this is hardware from late 2010, two year old hardware, it performes well, but it cant compete with the nexus devices.
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Hello and thanks for your kind reply!
I've done what you suggested: CPU was already set to 1GHz in CM10, I've set it to 1100MHz and changed "on demand" to "performance". Not faster. Or not fast enough. I din't download another CM10 nightly since the one I'm using is just 3 days old.
I'm fully aware Nook Color is outdated in today's fast digital world. However, I'm disappointed it can't go any smoother since this is really to slow and even frustrating (waiting, click, waiting). What's the point of using CM10 if one can not really use it? CM10 nightly's general respond to basic operations (menus, settings) has a lag. Do the others report the same? What with the other CM10 ROMs, like Paranoid Android?
Would it be much better if I would switch to CM7.2 instead of CM10?
I also have ZTE Blade 2010. phone (600MHz stock single core CPU, OC to 800MHz) that works great on CM 7.2. Smooth and stable.
Once again, I didn't try CM7.2 for Nook Color, maybe it would work just as smooth as on Blade.
For the record, Blade and Nook Color almost have the same AnTuTu bench score (Nook is a bit better).
Please note I was using (testing) simple apps on Nook (not games or anything "heavy"):
- Opera Mini browser, News reading apps, ES File Explorer, etc -- works fine.
- Google Maps also works okay, no lag.
- YouTube is slow, it takes ages to swap from portrait to landscape when Nook is rotated. When finally starts playing it goes smooth even in HD.
- Chrome is a killer! Takes ages to load and is not usable.
All these apps, besides Chrome (requires Android 4) work just fine on my ancient ZTE Blade! :good:
I ask all of this since I saw posts on XDA regarding ICS and JB on NC saying "I'm totally thrilled with this version. Haven't had a bug at all, bluetooth functionality is flawless, and it's even faster than the stock software." I'd like the same!
Any hints now? Again, thanks a lot!
The fastest and smoothest ROM you'll find right now for your nook is going to be (mirage cm7.2).
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The fastest and smoothest ROM you'll find right now for your nook is going to be (mirage cm7.2).
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Especially if it is installed on the EMMC, and not running off of an SD Card.
My NC CM10 ROM is installed on EEMC, not SD. Should I forget about speed and smoothness on ANY CM9 and CM10 and go back to a phone OS on a tablet, CM7.2, as suggested?
Should I consider ICS instead JB hoping to get a better result? CM9 instead of CM10?
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I would forget about cm9, and cm10 is still in the works(but making progress). So if your looking for the most stable and smooth ROM, I would go with MiRaGe cm7.2, at least until cm10 has got a stable ROM. Those guys have tweeked that mirage ROM to the point of perfection.lol
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Thank you very much! I'll do that.
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Just try the various ones and see what suits your needs the best. Everyone has differing opinions of the various ROMs based on their particular hardware, setups, expectations, experience and the particular apps used.
Only you can decide. It is easy to give them all a try. CM10 and Paranoid Android will perform similarly since PA is based on CM10.. so you don;t have to try both to get a performance feel.
This was in the CM 10 general thread:
soobah said:
Thanks to several people on these forums I now have the Nook color running CM10 fairly responsively, to the point where it doesn't feel all that different to the Nexus7. Huge kudos to the devs on that!
I hope these steps can help others get theirs in the same state. I am using EMMC boot. YMMV so do a backup first.
Firstly, I was having trouble with FC and really bad performance, I traced the issue to something installed on the SDcard (didn't happen if booting with SDcard removed), so I wiped the SDcard, problem fixed.
When installing via clockworkmod (3.2.0.1), I wiped data (aka factory reset), wiped cache partition, (under advanced) wiped dalvik cache. I did not do fix permissions but some suggest that also helped them, pretty sure you need to do that after install though and I've not gotten around to a reboot yet)
1. Settings->performance->interactive
This seems to be the biggest improvement overall. I am wildly speculating that the nook is too laggy at adjusting clock speed in 'on demand' and that is where a fair bit of the sluggishness comes from. I did run with 'Performance' for a while and that is better, and interstingly I didn't find the battery life too bad at all really, so that could be an option for some (I do turn off wifi when not using and that helps heaps with battery).
2. Settings->Performance->I/O scheduler->BFQ (YMMV but worth playing with)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22134559&postcount=4
3. System Tuner app from the Play store https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ccc71.pmw
Tweaks->Sysctl->Recommended
OOM (scroll right past memory top line)->Presets->aggressive
I'm on the Nov13 build atm, not feeling like I need to try any later nightly but I might for interest.
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It makes the nook run much faster and it has a much better user interface than CM 7
Also run the unofficial build that has a few tweaks that make the nook seem faster with GPU intensive tasks.
i still think the cm10 rom, while experimental, is still the best rom, cm7.2 is old software, it was good at the time, but android4. and 4.1 have alot of enhancements as far as speed, but try 7.2 and compare it. the only person that can tell you what the best rom is, is you.
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i still think the cm10 rom, while experimental, is still the best rom, cm7.2 is old software, it was good at the time, but android4. and 4.1 have alot of enhancements as far as speed, but try 7.2 and compare it. the only person that can tell you what the best rom is, is you.
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Thank you, as always!
CM10 might be the best ROM on the paper, due to JB's enchantments over GB. However, this particular CM10 is just slow on NC. Basic use, like navigating through system options, settings, menus -- has a lag (w/o any apps). All the time, every time. I must say I didn't try last power settings your recommended on the previous page, since I gave a try to CM 7.2 (Mirage).
CM 7.2 makes NC responsive and fast. (It won't play HD videos in YouTube, only "normal", that's the only thing I noticed so far.)
Regarding CM10, I can give it a try once again if/when becomes faster. Do you think the power settings you gave me most recently would really boost it? I can flash it again. Or CM9 (ICS), I'm following that one as well. Until then, I don't think it's the matter of choice. After all, we all have the same HW here (even though two versions of NC have some differences, but not in speed).
Lastly, I'm a newbie and I can be very wrong.
I have tested all of them, also various nightlies.And although CM10 looks prettier and have better "menu" options (no need to mount sd card when connecting to PC for example), 7.2 is still the fastest rom on Nook Color.
owim said:
Thank you, as always!
Regarding CM10, I can give it a try once again if/when becomes faster. Do you think the power settings you gave me most recently would really boost it? I can flash it again. Or CM9 (ICS), I'm following that one as well. Until then, I don't think it's the matter of choice. After all, we all have the same HW here (even though two versions of NC have some differences, but not in speed).
Lastly, I'm a newbie and I can be very wrong.
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The power settings definitely make a difference.. whether they would make it better for your use is something nly you can decide. Try them.
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I have tested all of them, also various nightlies.And although CM10 looks prettier and have better "menu" options (no need to mount sd card when connecting to PC for example), 7.2 is still the fastest rom on Nook Color.
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Thanks for your reply! Great you've tested more ROMs so you're experienced with different versions, their benefits and problems.
Right now, I'm on CM 7.2 (Mirage) and like it, fast and smooth enough.
- What do you think about HoneyComb (Android 3) for Nook? If not, than only HC theme would be enough.
- Have you tried power options settings regarding CM10, discussed in this thread?
- What other ROMs except CM 7.2 (Mirage) are worth of exploring? CM9 nightly?
- How about making a dual boot, so I would have a working CM 7.2 on one, and experimental ROMs on second boot (CM9, CM10). Is that safe? Should I be aware of possible issues? I've never done this, but I saw a thread on that here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=17834691
Thanks a lot!
Also give v6 Supercharger a try for all ROMs. And, SD Speed Increase with a 2048 heap if you are on 7.2.
owim said:
Thank you, as always!
CM10 might be the best ROM on the paper, due to JB's enchantments over GB. However, this particular CM10 is just slow on NC. Basic use, like navigating through system options, settings, menus -- has a lag (w/o any apps). All the time, every time. I must say I didn't try last power settings your recommended on the previous page, since I gave a try to CM 7.2 (Mirage).
CM 7.2 makes NC responsive and fast. (It won't play HD videos in YouTube, only "normal", that's the only thing I noticed so far.)
Regarding CM10, I can give it a try once again if/when becomes faster. Do you think the power settings you gave me most recently would really boost it? I can flash it again. Or CM9 (ICS), I'm following that one as well. Until then, I don't think it's the matter of choice. After all, we all have the same HW here (even though two versions of NC have some differences, but not in speed).
Lastly, I'm a newbie and I can be very wrong.
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there were some tweaks in the thread (don't ask I cannot remember where...) that helped make CM10 very usable. Before that I was using MC-ROM...
For me it is a toss-up: either CM10-12/17/12 nightlie or stock B&N 1.4.3, rooted with ManualNooter 5.8.20.
I believe stock/MN is much faster and more reliable.
CM10 is feature rich, slighly slower, and the mail app is far better than stock B&N.
Hey, do both on emmc.
Install MN by following the instructions in the OP here.
Setup your NC for dual boot by following the instructions here.
And Install CM10 12/17/12 and the correct Gapps.
Personally, my NC has stock B&N 1.4.3 rooted with ManualNooter 5.8.20 on the alternate emmc partition and CM 10-nightlie 12/17/12 on primary. Then I can share the uSD card for data.
bluepen61 said:
For me it is a toss-up: either CM10-12/17/12 nightlie or stock B&N 1.4.3, rooted with ManualNooter 5.8.20.
I believe stock/MN is much faster and more reliable.
CM10 is feature rich, slighly slower, and the mail app is far better than stock B&N.
Hey, do both on emmc.
Install MN by following the instructions in the OP here.
Setup your NC for dual boot by following the instructions here.
And Install CM10 12/17/12 and the correct Gapps.
Personally, my NC has stock B&N 1.4.3 rooted with ManualNooter 5.8.20 on the alternate emmc partition and CM 10-nightlie 12/17/12 on primary. Then I can share the uSD card for data.
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Did you see my post to you about CWM not being available on the CM10 thread? I think I have the solution for your problem.
Sent from my Nook HD+ Running CM10 on SD
leapinlar said:
Did you see my post to you about CWM not being available on the CM10 thread? I think I have the solution for your problem.
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No. I I missed it. Which CM 10 thread? I have been following the CM 10 nightlife thread.
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After being tired with the official gingerbread stock, i decided to give two mods a try, that seemed to be interesting to me:
CM10.1 - latest RC and SlimBean 5.0 (semaphore), based on CM, claiming it is very clean and fast (very interesting to me). both look really nice and so i decided to help myself with the decision by installing my std. apps and benchmark it with antutu 3.3 - 3x ina row after a fresh install andfrsh restart.
the benchmark fits with my subjective feelings: CM10.1 was faster in loading apps and i noticed a slight but annoying waiting time in SlimBean for the keyboard to pop up - the swype-handling is not smooth enough in SlimBean, but only slightly slower. Same with the pin code after starting android - SlimBean delays my entered keys, CM works smooth.To the other hand, SlimBean seems to be faster in graphics. Once i open (e.g. contact list or gallery) sth. in SlimBean, it seems to be way more faster the 2nd time - compared to CM10.1
my take for this moment: i went back to CM10.1 mainly because auf the keyboard delay. i don't play games on my smartphone so i don't care about the gpu.
ps: comments about your experience are welcome.
Alternative Roms
I'm with swift Mackay based Xperia Style using its own keyboard (not updated for long time unfortunately but Mackay is),
and I can suggest CyanAOSP and Gamerz (even without games) with Mackay / Cyan kernels.
I also used Semaphore all over and enjoyed deep idle and low 100 top 1400 MHZ tweaks, with various schedulers.
Hope you will have time to add more benchmarks before settling down with a fine rom
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deedee_SGS1 said:
After being tired with the official gingerbread stock, i decided to give two mods a try, that seemed to be interesting to me:
CM10.1 - latest RC and SlimBean 5.0 (semaphore), based on CM, claiming it is very clean and fast (very interesting to me). both look really nice and so i decided to help myself with the decision by installing my std. apps and benchmark it with antutu 3.3 - 3x ina row after a fresh install andfrsh restart.
the benchmark fits with my subjective feelings: CM10.1 was faster in loading apps and i noticed a slight but annoying waiting time in SlimBean for the keyboard to pop up - the swype-handling is not smooth enough in SlimBean, but only slightly slower. Same with the pin code after starting android - SlimBean delays my entered keys, CM works smooth.To the other hand, SlimBean seems to be faster in graphics. Once i open (e.g. contact list or gallery) sth. in SlimBean, it seems to be way more faster the 2nd time - compared to CM10.1
my take for this moment: i went back to CM10.1 mainly because auf the keyboard delay. i don't play games on my smartphone so i don't care about the gpu.
ps: comments about your experience are welcome.
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Thak you for your informatioan. But I have a question: why in Slim, all thins are small? How can I increse its?
You need to increase LCD Density to 240 (default for devices with 480x800 screen resolution).
I think it's under Slim Interface settings.
OK, so I've done some searching and can't find the comparisons I've been looking for, so I'm hoping you all can help me.
My Nook Color I think is about at end of life as far as expecting any better OS. It's no longer under BN warranty, but I have a SquareTrade that I'm not afraid to use, so, I have to ask...
I'm look for the best performance with a child friendly interface. I'll probably make Kids Mode by Zoodles the default launcher unless someone can convince me otherwise. I like how I can just check all the apps I want the kids to play.
For performance, should (and/or can) I:
1) Stick with Stock and root it? Can I install KidsMode as the default launcher? I haven't booted into Stock on the NC in ages.
2) Install CM (and which, 7.2, 10, 10.1) on my 32GB SD
or
3) Install CM (and which, 7.2, 10, 10.1) on EMMC?
I recently did a fresh wipe on the SD card and installed 10.1 and it seemed slow, so I'm wondering what your experiences are and if you have a preferred build, etc.
I'd stick with EMMC, since it will "always" work, and does not depend on an SD card. I've had stock wiped since I got my Nook Color (May 2011?). I even redid the partitioning so I'd have the huge /data partition on it.
I wouldn't really consider CM10, as that was a dead-end. Never really polished, and support & development stopped.
For what seems like the quickest performance, go with CM7.2. Highly developed and tweaked kernel, Nook Color Tools to further tweak and boost sound, and maximum overclocking and undervolting. I swear I went 30 days on a single charge. The limiting factor is of course Android 2.3 compatibility, and some things not looking or acting right because you're running a Phone OS on a tablet.
For the most compatible, CM10.1. Certainly not as tweaked or mature as 7.2 and quieter sound (as the sound boost in was a "bug" in Android that was eventually fixed) - but you get a polished Android 4.2 OS. Most things "work". Apps works. It can be slow as heck, but everything runs and looks correct.
CM7.2 may give you the best performance and battery life. I'd test both. Go back and forth between CM7.2 and CM10.1. Test games. Compare launchers, etc. The quickest Launcher (by far) that I've used is LaunderPro. I'm talking nearly 60fps smooth animations with it on the Nook Color. The developer seemed to have abandoned it. There's an annoying bug in the app drawer where all app icons overlap each other if you rotate the device. ADWLauncher got an interesting update some time back. It can add a nearly-ICS/JB launcher "look" to CM7.2.
So all models have the same 5" diamond pentile matrix 1080p OLED display, arguably the best and definitely one of the most interesting smartphone displays around, but are there any decent settings for non-TW based ROMs?
Obviously this is subjective and dependent on purpose, but my preference for any computer display is to aim for sRGB / 6500k colour. Thanks to some amazing work by AndreiLux, the best option seems to be anything running a kernel with the right version of his STweak (or Synapse) software, where you can load a preset profile based on professional calibration of a similar unit. Awesome.
As far as I can tell this means using either his own Perseus kernel for i9500 or Wanam's Adam kernel for i9500/i9505 (which has it incorporated, I'm not sure but rather hoping that the i9505 version also has the S4 display preset included), the only problem is that both of these only support TW ROMs. Then there's Samsung's "Movie" mode, which seems to me the second best option but again is TW only.
Personally I'm getting the i9505 as I need/want 4G and much prefer even the GPE ROM to TW (and I don't mind the slightly inferior DAC + camera sensor), but the lack of any decent display settings seems like a major oversight by Google and I'm surprised it isn't picked up on more by the media. As much as I don't want to, I might end up running TW for this reason alone.
So my question really is whether there are any options for display calibration on a non-TW based ROM? AOSP is understandly lacking in this department but AFAIK the GPE ROM incorporates a lot of the TW code and closed drivers etc. so it stands to reason that it should theoretically be possible.