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CyanogenMod 7 For Desire Z Video Demonstration

Hi guys,
I came across this video posted here that shows CyaongenMod 7 RC-0 working on HTC Desire Z. According to the demonstrator in the video, there are no CyanogenMod settings (of course if it's RC-0, you wont have them), Camera not working and also Wi-Fi and GPS act stupid. I believe that its a raw compilation from CM git. What do you all think?

I think he's gonna call it CM 6.2 as 2.3 isn't really groundbreaking. Last update.zip I made from the source it had graphical glitches and no usb,gps,wifi,bluetooth, etc support
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Seconded. My guess is 6.2. Or maybe 6.3, to match up the version numbers..? Haha.

Cyanogen is going to make it 7.0, said so on his twitter

When you compile the gingerbread CM build from git, it says CM 7.0-RC0

i don't see many new things in gingerbread, even cyanogen doesn't use original launcher . Only some touch in gui..., no revolutionary interface...( i still remember google said, no custom launcher again in gingerbread )

Flippy125 said:
I think he's gonna call it CM 6.2 as 2.3 isn't really groundbreaking. Last update.zip I made from the source it had graphical glitches and no usb,gps,wifi,bluetooth, etc support
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LOL. Nope. CM7

Wish the whole video wasn't about showing what's broken though
After all the work done today, it's down to the camcorder and a minor GL glitch that causes Quadrant to crash. The camcorder is broken on every platform except for the Nexus S. I think it's fixable, and I have it partially working.

cyanogen said:
Wish the whole video wasn't about showing what's broken though
After all the work done today, it's down to the camcorder and a minor GL glitch that causes Quadrant to crash. The camcorder is broken on every platform except for the Nexus S. I think it's fixable, and I have it partially working.
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Oh yay! I haven't attempted to compile source since power went out (along with cell towers) and the power company won't have it fixed until xmas so I'm currently running off of generator =/ I tried doing a repo sync earlier but got impatient and will probably set it to run over night
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What are the difference.
The first rumours about gingerbread talked about "great" changes...
I can't hardly "see" any changes.
I am wondering what the real changes are. Does it work faster? Does it has another feel? What does it do with the battery?
I was looking forward to gingerbread, but i am afraid it is going to be dissappointing.
(PS sorry for my ****ty english.)
BTW love the hard work of the cyanogenmod team.

jhhest said:
The first rumours about gingerbread talked about "great" changes...
I can't hardly "see" any changes.
I am wondering what the real changes are. Does it work faster? Does it has another feel? What does it do with the battery?
I was looking forward to gingerbread, but i am afraid it is going to be dissappointing.
(PS sorry for my ****ty english.)
BTW love the hard work of the cyanogenmod team.
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apparently those have been delayed to 3.0 >:O

if the changes have been delayed to honeycomb, then what was the point of releasing Gingerbread...

aliwaqas said:
if the changes have been delayed to honeycomb, then what was the point of releasing Gingerbread...
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Security updates, patches, and here and there things.

From what I have seen there are a few kool things but I guess we will no when it comes out. I'm using virtuos 0.8.1 havnt used any other rom I'm thinking if cynogen gets gingerbread then I think I'm jumping ship. The rom I'm using now is nice and pretty but there is a lot of updates and bugs have to update or reset the phone way to often sorry evil and rmk
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aliwaqas said:
if the changes have been delayed to honeycomb, then what was the point of releasing Gingerbread...
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There are some seriously awesome things for developers to use, the biggest are the new native APIs that finally puts Android on par with iPhone for gaming. Other than the dark theme and SIP calling, all the good stuff in G is under the hood.

cheers cyanogen. its cool to see you still on xda after all this time.

cyanogen said:
There are some seriously awesome things for developers to use, the biggest are the new native APIs that finally puts Android on par with iPhone for gaming. Other than the dark theme and SIP calling, all the good stuff in G is under the hood.
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Your forgetting about the EQ in the music app... I'm most excited about that =)
Earlier, I was most excited about smoother scrolling, but with virtuous and OCed to 1.4 ghz it's smooth as butter! I LOVE THIS PHONE

cyanogen said:
Wish the whole video wasn't about showing what's broken though
After all the work done today, it's down to the camcorder and a minor GL glitch that causes Quadrant to crash. The camcorder is broken on every platform except for the Nexus S. I think it's fixable, and I have it partially working.
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I'm so eager to use the actual gingerbread keyboard! =D with the cool highlighting and shtuff. =)

I am using cm 6.1 stable with a nexus s theme which gives it a little bit of a gingerbread look and I like it. Everything is smooth and clean
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My problem with change

I hate change. So, since I have worked on specializing NY CM7 for just me, then ics coming out, makes it hard for me to want to go to it. I love my setup as well as my performance here on gingerbread. But, I have pulled myself to download oICSv41 as well as the GLaDOS kernel. Is there any big bugs with v41 I should know about..? As well as with GLaDOS. I know of the reboot problem, but it sounds like its just people using set CPU. And if I do have problems ill just go to mathkids trusty matr1x kernel that I've been using since 6.0. Although none of you will provably care I just felt the need to say this, thanks guys
PS. If you have problems like this, post then below, weather it be with phones or not.
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michaelg117 said:
I hate change. So, since I have worked on specializing NY CM7 for just me, then ics coming
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I haven't had any issue at all except for slight launcher lag.
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I hate change too... I've flashed and tried just about every ICS rom and kernel out right now, but still find myself nandroiding back to my latest GB MIUI setup. Not once did I get excited about ICS coming out... honestly I don't see what all the hype is about. It took a year to get GB to what it is today, so I wonder what ICS will be a year from now.
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I feel exactly the same way. I absolutely LOVE my gingerbread the way it is. And about five minutes ago, I flashed back to good ole gb. I wont flash ics until an official ota cones out.
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Idk bout you guys but I'm not afraid to try new things, have fun living in the past cavemen lol. But things about ics right know are all known issues that Google already knows about. Bad battery life due to android os keeping the phone awake, home screen lag which gets resolved by using either kernels you mentioned and depending on the from you settle on, incoming mms doesn't work but outgoing does. Other than that, its bad ass and something new.
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I tried ICS for a day, straight back to GB for me, it seemed like a step backward for me coming from MV roms.

Matr1x v13.0
(Oc 1300/200 smartassv2 and live Oc 105% raise voltages by 15)
Nexusbeam 4.0.1
Perfect combination. Everything works, no complaints.
Quadrant scores of 3434, which is respectable.
ICS is the way to go!
Hope this helps you decide.

Even though I finally have a decently running ICS ROM.. I'm still disappointed by ICS. I think a lot of it had to do with the very large overhyping it got.. I mean we all thought our phones would be ****ting rainbows and unicorns, and didn't, not even close. It's a cosmetic re-design with annoying hardware accelerated web browsing..
The accelerated web browsing is so poorly implemented one of the first features I'd love to see in a ROM is the ability to turn it off. I'm much rather put up with the occasional "hitching" while scrolling instead of the "Scroll, scroll scroll, wait for it to render and make the blur go away" craptacular experience it is now.

styckx said:
I think a lot of it had to do with the very large overhyping it got.. I mean we all thought our phones would be ****ting rainbows and unicorns, and didn't, not even close.
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And that's the story with anything new that comes out. Everyone hears about something new and runs with it and praises it to the heavens and back without knowing anything about it (true hands on experience). Its always best to form your own opinion on things and not let hype or anything like that to get in your way of judging something.
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styckx said:
Even though I finally have a decently running ICS ROM.. I'm still disappointed by ICS. I think a lot of it had to do with the very large overhyping it got.. I mean we all thought our phones would be ****ting rainbows and unicorns, and didn't, not even close. It's a cosmetic re-design with annoying hardware accelerated web browsing..
The accelerated web browsing is so poorly implemented one of the first features I'd love to see in a ROM is the ability to turn it off. I'm much rather put up with the occasional "hitching" while scrolling instead of the "Scroll, scroll scroll, wait for it to render and make the blur go away" craptacular experience it is now.
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It's weird because the render time is insanely long on the OTA. But, when I had installed Kwiboo's or CM9, the browser experience was amazing!
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I dunno, i look at GB now and it look ugly and clunky. Stock ICS is running just as fast (or faster) and stable as stock GB did for me. I don't even have the desire to play with custom ROMs and kernels anymore, ICS is so close to perfection for my needs. Unless CM9 offers something really great, I'm sticking with stock ICS.

Jellybean, disappointed with project butter. anyone else?

I have been loading most of the patchwork JB Roms that have been popping up here. I like some things about it, like Google Now, but I cant seem to understand "project butter." I cannot tell any real difference in smooth-ness. It still seems pretty laggy on my NS4G. I am hoping this is because either I have been using a newer device as my daily driver, or just that these Roms are hacked from other releases.
Does anyone else feel this way? What are your experiences with devices like the nexus 7 that were designed with JellyBean? smoother? same?

Nope I can see the difference its faster & smoother than ICS open app draw opens fast in ICS it took a little longer jellybean is the best OS update from Google so far 2 big thumbs up & I'm getting the same or a little better battery life than I was on ICS
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I can definitely see a huge difference it terms of smoothness. You should probably delete some apps you don't need or do a factory wipe.
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I mirror your experience, however am still hopeful that when Sprint releases the actual files, things will be better. I haven't experienced JB on any of the newer devices, but the reports are good. Life is all about expectations ... guess we should be thankful that we're even receiving the updates.

Killasmoke said:
Nope I can see the difference its faster & smoother than ICS open app draw opens fast in ICS it took a little longer jellybean is the best OS update from Google so far 2 big thumbs up & I'm getting the same or a little better battery life than I was on ICS
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FYI---it is VERY hard to understand you without any punctuation.

You still should keep in mind that we're on a 2 year old device... yeah yeah the original Nexus S came out in Dec 2010... not quite 2 years, but it's based off of tech that debuted in the original Galaxy S in the summer of that year. It's great hardware, but it's expected that we'll have a tough time dealing with newer OS' ... quite frankly I've considered going back to a stripped down CM7 just because of the smoothness compared to ICS (and JB) ... we're just running into serious RAM limitations on this device.

Piaband said:
I have been loading most of the patchwork JB Roms that have been popping up here. I like some things about it, like Google Now, but I cant seem to understand "project butter." I cannot tell any real difference in smooth-ness. It still seems pretty laggy on my NS4G. I am hoping this is because either I have been using a newer device as my daily driver, or just that these Roms are hacked from other releases.
Does anyone else feel this way? What are your experiences with devices like the nexus 7 that were designed with JellyBean? smoother? same?
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Try different kernels as well with the rom.
I definitely see a difference,
I have no more lag at all with what i used to before.

I think, the UI can be a bit smoother, but multitasking and opening/closing apps works smoooooth!

Much faster and smoother than ICS.
Running Jelly Belly 1.5.1
Don't expect 2 much from old device like nexus s.

Google is getting sued for project butter being "too smooth" by apple because apple claimed smoothness was patented.
Kidding,
But, I could see it happening.
JB is 3 steps ahead of any other OS :x

I am on jelly bean. I want to ask too why browsing in chrome is laggy? Opening apps and switching between apps is smooth though, but I dont feel that only switching and opening apps constitute the project butter.

I just don't like the fact that it keeps the phone awake over night. You ask me jellybean trying to do too much in the background. Last night I turned off 3g. When I woke up someone sent me a mms at 12am. When I check the battery stats it kept my phone awake trying to download a mms without data on. Not to smart
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lekhwani said:
I am on jelly bean. I want to ask too why browsing in chrome is laggy? Opening apps and switching between apps is smooth though, but I dont feel that only switching and opening apps constitute the project butter.
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Dialer slow, opening Apps in Settings freaking slow, chrome slow...

JB gave new life to my NS, definitely the smoothest it has ever been, and I don't feel the need to OC. As I do with all phones/roms, all transitions and animations are turned off, including the third one added with JB. Also using Nova launcher, but am going to try Apex again now that they updated it with JB base.
And the biggest thing I noticed is how quickly the recents come up now, it's instant. I honestly didn't think that would be possible on the NS.

Piaband said:
I have been loading most of the patchwork JB Roms that have been popping up here. I like some things about it, like Google Now, but I cant seem to understand "project butter." I cannot tell any real difference in smooth-ness. It still seems pretty laggy on my NS4G. I am hoping this is because either I have been using a newer device as my daily driver, or just that these Roms are hacked from other releases.
Does anyone else feel this way? What are your experiences with devices like the nexus 7 that were designed with JellyBean? smoother? same?
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Pick up the Galaxy Nexus and you'll see the difference much clearer. NS is just plain old.

Why don't you try setting animations to 0.5?
Nexus S (GMS i9020a)
Paranoid (1.6 - 4.0.4)
Matrix Kernel (CFS - 20.0)
Ondemmand (800/100)
Deep Idle (On - Deadline)
Live OC - 100 (400/800)
BLX - 98 (Inverted Apps)

People don't like change, I remember seeing threads bashing ICS when it came out. Its new and the devs here have done made great progress in the short time since its release.
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smoka206 said:
People don't like change, I remember seeing threads bashing ICS when it came out. Its new and the devs here have done made great progress in the short time since its release.
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I'm not bashing at all, love jelly bean.
Just mentioned where is slow.

Piaband said:
FYI---it is VERY hard to understand you without any punctuation.
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I didn't know I was in school & you where an English teacher. I think you need an eye exam if you can't see or feel that jellybean is faster than ICS.
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lekhwani said:
I am on jelly bean. I want to ask too why browsing in chrome is laggy? Opening apps and switching between apps is smooth though, but I dont feel that only switching and opening apps constitute the project butter.
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Chrome is a ram hog. Add in all the other processes eating ram, and you'll see why it's laggy.
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AOKP or Sense

Which is the best system for your DesireZ?
Sense, beautiful in appearance, but using too much memory. aokp, light and fast, but can be a problem (icon under the articles distorted) Sorry for my english

i hate sense
i m on 4.1 jb now and its perfect!!!

d_gkal said:
i hate sense
i m on 4.1 jb now and its perfect!!!
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which Rom? and whats your phone model?

AOKP for sure, faster, smoother and really good battery life
But that's only my oppinion, if you miss the sense tweaks better get a sense (maybe the one from viper)
I am using the JB testbuild from flinny...it's awesome
Greets Vauvenal7
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I prefer aokp. Sense is too heavy for that phone...
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AvxSfx said:
which Rom? and whats your phone model?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1605016
i have desire Z

I LOVED sense in every way - it's so complete out of the box and very visually pleasing, but it was a bit slowish, terrible multitasking, and battery performance suffered.
I'm using mimicry for the last 4 months and, I must say I'm quite happy, apart from MMS not working (seems to be some ICS general if you use separate APNs for data and mms) - It's blazing fast, multitasks and has at least 50% more battery efficiency.
I dislike all phone/dialer/contacts alternatives to sense and ICS (holo) theme, but I'm compromising for performance and battery life.

Sense for eye candy, AOKP for performance and extremely much tweaks. I run MIUI on my One X now, and it’s perfect.
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Isn't Sense 4.0A from the HTC One V meant to be pretty lightweight, and more so than Sense 3.6? When I get a Desire Z I'm going for either Gen.Y Vision Sense 4.0A or an Andromadus CM9/ 10.

It is supposed to be lightweight - I haven't yet tried Gen.Y, but I doubt it will be lighter than sense 2 was with gingerbread. I hope I'm wrong.
And CM9/10 based ROMs are still smoother and offer better battery life than sense 2 ROMs.

I Love Sense!
I think it's the Android's equivalent of an iPhone in terms of slickness and UI design.
However, i found the best "Sense" version to be the good old 2.1 (with Sense 3 lock screen) and everything that came after is too heavy and a lot even lack features! While 2.1/3.0 gives you the best Performance/Features combo even for older phones.
When i don't use a Sense rom, then i try to make the AOSP rom to look as close to it as i possible can but every once in awhile i try a real Sense cause i miss it's visual aspects.

EliteMod -AOKP . - my current, most stable from. Which I found. Extremely customizable . Had it for 4-5 months now
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pure.noob said:
EliteMod -AOKP . - my current, most stable from. Which I found. Extremely customizable . Had it for 4-5 months now
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Elite mod very slow for my DZ but YozgatG's Gen.Y VisionX R3 very fast, i cant understand :S

AOKP all the way for me.. much better UI(Jellybean) and much more faster that Sense too..

Trying out trickdroid desensed, and so far it seems awesome.

CM10.1 by Flinny. Everything starts up smoothly.

l like sense
sense3.5 or sense4.1

AOSP, hands down. AOKP's and Others just simply... start to lag after a day or two. Months on them and I simply can't take jerkiness and RAM lags, and of course I appreciate dev work, this is more of a phone memory limitation, and AOSP fits just right.

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CM10.1 by Flinny. Everything starts up smoothly.
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I agree ! Using it alrdy 2 months !

pure.noob said:
EliteMod -AOKP . - my current, most stable from. Which I found. Extremely customizable . Had it for 4-5 months now
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Same here!!! T-Mobile wifi calling + Elitemods ICS Rom is the best so far!! I can't choose CM10.1 bcuz they will never release the the RIL library's for wifi calling and for me that's a big no no bcuz I like longer battery!!
Anyways...haha AoKp IMO is better for functions and quicksettings and just better for more user friendly and different! No reboots in like 6months and perfect speed every time I boot rom!
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Back to Gingerbread and loving it!

My annoyance with laggy 4.X.X finally spilled over the edge and I moved back to stock gingerbread. I am loving it!! Lightning fast, just the way it was when I first got nexus s. I miss some of the jelly bean refinement, but the phone responsiveness in everyday use is much more important to me.
Besides stock 4.x.x, I tried cyanogenmod 9.x.x. Lag is just unacceptable. I figure Google optimized ICS to be thread happy targeting new multi-core devices, pushing our single core nexus s under the bus.

not any laggy in here ! poor you

4.1.2 here. fast and fluid. great battery life too.
BUT I feel your pain and have been very frustrated before, ya just need the right mix of kernal rom and settings.

Useless post!

Poor your still having gingerbread in your nexus as.people already moving to jb and having the same speed.
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slvr00gt said:
My annoyance with laggy 4.X.X finally spilled over the edge and I moved back to stock gingerbread. I am loving it!! Lightning fast, just the way it was when I first got nexus s. I miss some of the jelly bean refinement, but the phone responsiveness in everyday use is much more important to me.
Besides stock 4.x.x, I tried cyanogenmod 9.x.x. Lag is just unacceptable. I figure Google optimized ICS to be thread happy targeting new multi-core devices, pushing our single core nexus s under the bus.
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I've thought the same thing before and went back.... Browser speed is what sold me on jb. Its painfully slow swiping around pages on GB.
Cm10 stable is same battery life I got on GB...4 hours screen time. About 15 hours with a full charge on 3g without WiFi. I guess its all in the eye of the beholder....
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lurtis said:
I've thought the same thing before and went back.... Browser speed is what sold me on jb. Its painfully slow swiping around pages on GB.
Cm10 stable is same battery life I got on GB...4 hours screen time. About 15 hours with a full charge on 3g without WiFi. I guess its all in the eye of the beholder....
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GB browser on my Nexus S feels much more responsive then it ever was on JB.
May be I venture to CM10, but more likely I just upgrade the phone to Galaxy S3 or such when GB gets too old.... ICS/JB feels right at home in S3. Response is instantaneous

slvr00gt said:
GB browser on my Nexus S feels much more responsive then it ever was on JB.
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You probably need to get your eyes checked.

madd0g said:
You probably need to get your eyes checked.
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WTF is your problem dude?? Ass*???!!s like you make it difficult to maintain reasonable discussions
I opened this thread to share my experience with the phone over the last two years.

slvr00gt said:
GB browser on my Nexus S feels much more responsive then it ever was on JB.
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Seriously? Go to anandtech.com and scroll around in the stock GB browser. You should post a video of this so we can all remember how awful that browser was.

Currently i am using cm10 stable with air kernel jb stable and my phone is good performance and good battery life
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slvr00gt said:
WTF is your problem dude?? Ass*???!!s like you make it difficult to maintain reasonable discussions
I opened this thread to share my experience with the phone over the last two years.
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Just ignore him, he tends to talk down to anyone who posts something he doesn't agree with or that he feels they should have already known. Classic case of alpha male syndrome..
If you're happy that's all that matters..

styckx said:
Just ignore him, he tends to talk down to anyone who posts something he doesn't agree with or that he feels they should have already known. Classic case of alpha male syndrome..
If you're happy that's all that matters..
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It's called "being honest";]
As for not agreeing, found this nice video, fun begins at 0:45 :

Good video.
It's side by side comparison of
1. Loading the web pages
2. Scrolling down the web pages
3. Opening/closing apps
4. Moving between apps
Scrolling down the web page is the only comparison where ics is ahead. I believe it's only faster while working with large, full size web sites. Also,GB, allows you too scroll before the web site is fully loaded while JB makes you wait longer. I suspect it's a factor in making scrolling choppy
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The problem with Androix 4.x is that it eats more RAM than Gingerbread and animations are sometimes laggy on the Nexus S.

I'm running 4.2.1 quite happily on my NS4G. Using the Marmite kernel I have quite a bit of RAM compared to stock kernels. I also limit my background processes as I don't really use any multitasking (2 processes is where I cap it).
Meh, to each their own. I loaded up CM7 stable a few weeks ago and couldn't stand being back on GB, however, my wife is still running 2.3 on her Inspire 4g and I can't get her to even do the OTA for 2.3.5(? maybe .7).

Flash 4.2 and you will feel the real speed.
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