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My problem with change

I hate change. So, since I have worked on specializing NY CM7 for just me, then ics coming out, makes it hard for me to want to go to it. I love my setup as well as my performance here on gingerbread. But, I have pulled myself to download oICSv41 as well as the GLaDOS kernel. Is there any big bugs with v41 I should know about..? As well as with GLaDOS. I know of the reboot problem, but it sounds like its just people using set CPU. And if I do have problems ill just go to mathkids trusty matr1x kernel that I've been using since 6.0. Although none of you will provably care I just felt the need to say this, thanks guys
PS. If you have problems like this, post then below, weather it be with phones or not.
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michaelg117 said:
I hate change. So, since I have worked on specializing NY CM7 for just me, then ics coming
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I haven't had any issue at all except for slight launcher lag.
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I hate change too... I've flashed and tried just about every ICS rom and kernel out right now, but still find myself nandroiding back to my latest GB MIUI setup. Not once did I get excited about ICS coming out... honestly I don't see what all the hype is about. It took a year to get GB to what it is today, so I wonder what ICS will be a year from now.
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I feel exactly the same way. I absolutely LOVE my gingerbread the way it is. And about five minutes ago, I flashed back to good ole gb. I wont flash ics until an official ota cones out.
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Idk bout you guys but I'm not afraid to try new things, have fun living in the past cavemen lol. But things about ics right know are all known issues that Google already knows about. Bad battery life due to android os keeping the phone awake, home screen lag which gets resolved by using either kernels you mentioned and depending on the from you settle on, incoming mms doesn't work but outgoing does. Other than that, its bad ass and something new.
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I tried ICS for a day, straight back to GB for me, it seemed like a step backward for me coming from MV roms.

Matr1x v13.0
(Oc 1300/200 smartassv2 and live Oc 105% raise voltages by 15)
Nexusbeam 4.0.1
Perfect combination. Everything works, no complaints.
Quadrant scores of 3434, which is respectable.
ICS is the way to go!
Hope this helps you decide.

Even though I finally have a decently running ICS ROM.. I'm still disappointed by ICS. I think a lot of it had to do with the very large overhyping it got.. I mean we all thought our phones would be ****ting rainbows and unicorns, and didn't, not even close. It's a cosmetic re-design with annoying hardware accelerated web browsing..
The accelerated web browsing is so poorly implemented one of the first features I'd love to see in a ROM is the ability to turn it off. I'm much rather put up with the occasional "hitching" while scrolling instead of the "Scroll, scroll scroll, wait for it to render and make the blur go away" craptacular experience it is now.

styckx said:
I think a lot of it had to do with the very large overhyping it got.. I mean we all thought our phones would be ****ting rainbows and unicorns, and didn't, not even close.
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And that's the story with anything new that comes out. Everyone hears about something new and runs with it and praises it to the heavens and back without knowing anything about it (true hands on experience). Its always best to form your own opinion on things and not let hype or anything like that to get in your way of judging something.
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styckx said:
Even though I finally have a decently running ICS ROM.. I'm still disappointed by ICS. I think a lot of it had to do with the very large overhyping it got.. I mean we all thought our phones would be ****ting rainbows and unicorns, and didn't, not even close. It's a cosmetic re-design with annoying hardware accelerated web browsing..
The accelerated web browsing is so poorly implemented one of the first features I'd love to see in a ROM is the ability to turn it off. I'm much rather put up with the occasional "hitching" while scrolling instead of the "Scroll, scroll scroll, wait for it to render and make the blur go away" craptacular experience it is now.
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It's weird because the render time is insanely long on the OTA. But, when I had installed Kwiboo's or CM9, the browser experience was amazing!
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I dunno, i look at GB now and it look ugly and clunky. Stock ICS is running just as fast (or faster) and stable as stock GB did for me. I don't even have the desire to play with custom ROMs and kernels anymore, ICS is so close to perfection for my needs. Unless CM9 offers something really great, I'm sticking with stock ICS.

ICS Blues Crespo4g

Anyone else noticed how much cleaner and faster gingerbread is when you rollback ICS?
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Nope
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Did you rollback with a nandroid restore, or...?

Nope.
I could never go back to a pre 4.0 rom, ever. ICS is smoother, faster, and such a better experience than gingerbread ever was.

Nope, ICS is smoother for me.

Yeh gingerbread has been way smoother for me... just went back to Pete's 2.3 rom instead of his 4.0.3 and I love it.... I'm waiting for the official release

yep! anyone who says the ics is smoother is definitely fooling himself. with current ics builds, even the boot animation churns slowly.
still don't believe me? open up messaging or whatever, type something with the keyboard and hit home. see how the keyboard sticks on the screen? that's anything but smooth, to me.

We agree to disagree.

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yep! anyone who says the ics is smoother is definitely fooling himself. with current ics builds, even the boot animation churns slowly.
still don't believe me? open up messaging or whatever, type something with the keyboard and hit home. see how the keyboard sticks on the screen? that's anything but smooth, to me.
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mmm mine doesn't stick on the screen , it instantly disappears and goes to the home screen. With ics vs gb i have far less slow downs after a couple of days with ics , gb i had to restart every few days or it would get snail on me.

jietzer said:
mmm mine doesn't stick on the screen , it instantly disappears and goes to the home screen. With ics vs gb i have far less slow downs after a couple of days with ics , gb i had to restart every few days or it would get snail on me.
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What ROM and kernel are you using? I couldn't get rid of it no matter what I tried.
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Yeah gb is way more responsive. I tried cm9, vhgomez, oics and aokp. Also tried matrix kernel a couple times. It isn't that ics isn't smooth...i think it's quite smooth scrolling and transitioning but actions all take a little longer in ics...like the phone is working harder. There is a small delay on everything...it just isn't as responsive. i like the look of ics a lot but it isn't worth the hit in performance right now. It runs really well on my transformer prime though. I think that's why i don't like using it on my nexus because it is so easy to compare and see how much slower it is. Hopefully the official build is more responsive. If not i have no problem sticking with gb until the gnex is released on sprint.

Maybe not try a custom kernel
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Movement Back to GingerBread

So after having been running ICS roms for the past 2 months or so, I decided to switch back to my favorite Gingerbread rom for the hell of it, to see exactly what I'd been giving up for ICS. And WOW, was I blown away. I remember GB was a lot faster than ICS, but geez I did not remember it being this fast. EVERYTHING opens and closes quicker, touch responsiveness is amazing, screens swipe lightning quick, and I'm sorry, even though I did realize ICS improved battery life a little bit from my initial impressions, GB is giving me better battery life than most of the ICS roms I have used. Most importantly to me though, my phone has simply just become more of a joy to use. And less of CHORE. ICS makes texting a pain in the ass. And not only that, but basically doing anything, browsing, having to constantly re-press anything, scrolling.......omg scrolling. Going down your facebook newsfeed is definitely a chore on ICS. Seeing as it goes up a little, half the time you scroll down. But typing is probably the biggest thing for me, since I text a decent amount. I even installed the same GB keyboard I'd used on gingerbread roms (it's a modified stock gb keyboard called "gingerbread keyboard") which I had been able to type so quick and so accuretly with (except for the occasional double letter that the keyboard puts in), but on ICS it was just as inaccurate as any other crap keyboard I'd try out. You just have to type slowwwww, and press hard. Who the hell wants to use their phone like an old person? I sure don't. ICS makes my phone a chore to use.
I'm looking to get some other impressions here, and from both sides (mostly ICS fans, if you don't mind), and just get an overall consensus of what the deal is. I knew I'd missed GB, but I didn't realize it was this much!
Things I'd be missing from ICS: brightness minimum and maximum (having a lower min is really appreciated in my room at night - some later GB roms have this implemented though), the updated Gallery (soo much better on ICS), some features that are nice to have but I don't really change anyway (screen mode, gamma sensitivity, etc.), Chome (LOL jk, chrome sucks **** on mobile), better default video player, having my phone say 4.03, 4.04, or 4.1.1 that's about it. Lemme know some other things you'd miss from ICS if you were to revert back.
Also, I have tried most roms for ICS, ranging from AOKP, AOSP based roms, CM9, Sammywiz ones, MIUI variations. Just for reference, I've tried Shishir, Ressurection AOKP, Foxhound's roms, Basically all of Kaffee's roms, cMIUI, RGUI, AdyScorp's V4, AOKP official, Rootbox, etc. My favorite of those personally was probably Ressurection, and cMIUI. Not a huge fan of AOKP (or the wole CM interface), so cMIUI a bit more.
Btw, the GB rom I'm referring to is AdyScorpius' MIUI GB. Fastest rom I've ever used, period. Battery life from what I remember was not even that good (I mean it's MIUI) even compared to other MIUI's. So considering that I'm noticing it to be on par, if not better than ICS I was running, is noteworthy.
Lay your comments down below.
EDIT: Oh and I've tried a few JB roms already, including CM10, Kaffee's CM10, and X-treme's CM10 based rom. To be honest it's really smooth (coming from ICS though), however it's wayyy too early in the game to compare it to GB for me. To be quite honest, it's really smooth and relatively fast, but since it's still based on ICS, I doubt it will ever feel as good as GB.

I do agree but i got used to ICS and the little problems bundled with it. When samsung decides to update our phones to JB, i hope it'll be a different story
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VanillaCracker said:
So after having been running ICS roms for the past 2 months or so, I decided to switch back to my favorite Gingerbread rom for the hell of it, to see exactly what I'd been giving up for ICS. And WOW, was I blown away. [...] I'm looking to get some other impressions here, and from both sides (mostly ICS fans, if you don't mind), and just get an overall consensus of what the deal is. I knew I'd missed GB, but I didn't realize it was this much!
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Well, I'm not an pure ICS fan - both versions have their advantages - but I like CM, AOSP and MIUI - and Samsungs camera app. As almost everything here at XDA and other boards is about ICS and now JB I have not expected someone coming up with a thread like this, thanks
I must admit reverting to a 2.6.9 GB MIUI (external link to Fluxi's MIUI GB thread) quite often, too - It somehow just "feels" better than any ICS ROM I tried so far (only 2 months \w I9100, i9000 before, always working on kernels) - touch sensitivity and wakeup lag definately are two reasons for me, too. Battery seems to be almost equal to me.
I'm still looking for "the" firmware, currently testing MIUI 2.7.27 which seems to work quite well, too. But I have a feeling that I'll switch back to GB tonight...
Read in another thread you posted that the WIUI dev might update the GB version, may I ask where you have that information from? Interesting.

Gingerbread was far better than ICS from a raw performance standpoint, i was 100 and 1% happy with the way my phone performed with GB and then i flashed to ICS and got used to extra features (and im the kind of person that doesn't like to be behind the curve).
If google had ported all of the new functionality to GB along with some of the work they did with project butter we would have a MUCH MUCH better platform than we are currently stuck with.
Having a device that doesn't respond the way you would expect to touch input and has noticeable jank and lag in this day and age is NOT acceptable when you have the likes WP7 and iOS out there.
Time is running out Google (& to a degree Samsung) , I've been an Android user since the G1 and 3 devices on my patience is growing short.

We already had these kind of threads before

i will downgrade to 2.3.3 if there isn't a newer 2.3.x of Nee which i believe there is but i ain't finding them
i downgrading due to lockscreen stopped work on Stock ICS but it seems to be working on gingerbread

The only reason why I am on ics is that I can not connect to my college's wifi network... On ics wifi works fine...
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I downgraded from ics back to GB 2.3.4 due to ics bugs, lag on the touch screen (sometimes felt like a resistive screen) jerky swipes between home screens, black screen of death, random shut down and disappearing widgets. Like the op says, GB was a revelation again and the galaxy feels reliable, responsive and fast again. I'm staying put now till next year when my contact ends, I came from iPhone to android and maybe it will be wp8 next, or maybe a galaxy s3.....
I miss the face unlock, swipe to dismiss notifications and the task manager of ics, that's about all
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ephraim033 said:
I do agree but i got used to ICS and the little problems bundled with it. When samsung decides to update our phones to JB, i hope it'll be a different story
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I'm hoping the same thing man haha. But honestly I'm not having my hopes up anymore. I know that the CM10 preview builds don't have HW Accelerator working, and that the sensitivity does seem a bit better than ICS (more in the 'ok-eh' category instead of 'bad' like ICS), but I've seen a couple builds that claim to have HW Acceleration working, so if that makes a drastic improvement we'll see. Honestly I thought when ICS came out that it was just early in developemnt and that they'd work out the jags and stuff....yeah no. It's 3 months later and performance-wise it's relatively similar. AOKP has gotten much smoother though, but there's only so much you can do.
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Well, I'm not an pure ICS fan - both versions have their advantages - but I like CM, AOSP and MIUI - and Samsungs camera app. As almost everything here at XDA and other boards is about ICS and now JB I have not expected someone coming up with a thread like this, thanks
I must admit reverting to a 2.6.9 GB MIUI (external link to Fluxi's MIUI GB thread) quite often, too - It somehow just "feels" better than any ICS ROM I tried so far (only 2 months \w I9100, i9000 before, always working on kernels) - touch sensitivity and wakeup lag definately are two reasons for me, too. Battery seems to be almost equal to me.
I'm still looking for "the" firmware, currently testing MIUI 2.7.27 which seems to work quite well, too. But I have a feeling that I'll switch back to GB tonight...
Read in another thread you posted that the WIUI dev might update the GB version, may I ask where you have that information from? Interesting.
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I really appreciate your comments, especially coming from someone who has experience with kernels, it gives the whole discussion a little more validity. Wake lag is definitely annoying, honestly that's one of those things that by itself, you would think could be dismissed, but when added to the touch sensitivty, and sluggishness, just makes you think..what the hell.
Btw I was actually looking at WIUI last night by chance and also saw that he actually is updating his GB version. I had to re-read it a few times to make sure I wasn't mistaken. He's got a 6.29 version out, and in the comments he said he would do 8.4 (around there). I'll probably flash that, as my April GB rom is probably really outdated....hah.
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Gingerbread was far better than ICS from a raw performance standpoint, i was 100 and 1% happy with the way my phone performed with GB and then i flashed to ICS and got used to extra features (and im the kind of person that doesn't like to be behind the curve).
If google had ported all of the new functionality to GB along with some of the work they did with project butter we would have a MUCH MUCH better platform than we are currently stuck with.
Having a device that doesn't respond the way you would expect to touch input and has noticeable jank and lag in this day and age is NOT acceptable when you have the likes WP7 and iOS out there.
Time is running out Google (& to a degree Samsung) , I've been an Android user since the G1 and 3 devices on my patience is growing short.
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I agree with you that it probably would have made a lot more people happy had they stuck with a thoroughly upgraded GB instead of making a new platform. However although ICS sucks performance-wise (interface, anyway), it is actually pretty good in terms of efficiency. If you notice while restoring text messages or installing something via titanium backup, or shutting off your phone, things run quicker on ICS. ICS is more efficient, for sure. Which is why I hate even more how it is, because it has potential but for some reason still just completely sucks.
I'm gonna have to rant on google: *these are new thoughts just realized a minute ago* Google is definitely behind the ball in terms of what they're releasing. Google has always been out of touch with the people[/B. I'm only 20 but I was able to pick this up over the last couple years. They suck at knowing what people want, or at least are too hung up with their own projections that they don't see the people in which they're serving. You can tell google doesn't know what they're doing because you see it in everything they do. Example 1) Changing Android Market to Google Play Store. Obviously, there are plenty of reasons for them to do that (main probably being to get their name out - not everyone knows android is google based, and also to put all their apps into one [google music, google books, ect]), but they could have done that without changing the name to something EVERYONE HATES. Example 2) Google chrome (desktop). I use Chrome on my home PC. It's really fast. Other than that, I hate everything about it. The interface is styled, but looks like it was organized by an amateur, and is poorly structured. Functinoality is splintered and not well thought out. Firefox beats it in every single category, except for performance. Wish I could go back to firefox. Example 3) Chrome (Mobile), this app is unstable, and probably the slowest browser on the market...and yet it is the only video playing browser available on JB (no flash anymore)... Firefox BETA is 300% more stable than chrome's Non Beta app.
GB was fine, but ICS's regression is total bull (and I'm not talking to official update - samsung), and honestly as mentioned above it is just debasing them for the future. Honestly, I had an itouch for a couple years, and have used countless friends iphones over the years, so I know what it's like. Just the simple fact that going back to MIUI GB has made me the happiest I've been in a while...is saying something. I hate to be the ass who brings up negative things, but if they had been doing things right in the first place, things wouldn't have to be mentioned. I'm not too picky, but I do demand quality. Although I've never even considered it in the past, I'm looking forward to seeing what they're rolling out for the iphone 5, cus it may actually make a difference in my next phone.
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We already had these kind of threads before
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I saw one, but it does not discuss the same thing..it meerly has the same subject. This thread heads in a much different direction, also the former post is outdated with the progression of ICS currently.
LastStandingDroid said:
i will downgrade to 2.3.3 if there isn't a newer 2.3.x of Nee which i believe there is but i ain't finding them
i downgrading due to lockscreen stopped work on Stock ICS but it seems to be working on gingerbread
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You may find one! I know finding official releases past 4.x.x is hard. WIUI is pulling from somewhere though, I know that. Could be it's all just his own input.
Dark Emotion said:
The only reason why I am on ics is that I can not connect to my college's wifi network... On ics wifi works fine...
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I know ICS has better range for WIFI, other than that I don't know the actual differences.
*Sorry for long post*

It is not the range, it is wpa2 thing...
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Oh no!! This thread is killing me for going back to Gb. Damn damn damn....
Sliding answering options, fantastic lockscreen, system wide font synchronization, what more I am missing....God knows....!!

i never use GB on my phone it came with ICS out of box but i want to try it, stock and custom just wanna see how different it is performance wise.

ithehappy said:
Oh no!! This thread is killing me for going back to Gb. Damn damn damn....
Sliding answering options, fantastic lockscreen, system wide font synchronization, what more I am missing....God knows....!!
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Lol I hope you're not trolling. Honestly I doubt GB has much of anything that ICS doesn't have. Except ICS option menu is dumb (although samsung's gb is RETARDED), and GB has more simple, intuitive button layout (delete, menu key layout, etc.)
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i never use GB on my phone it came with ICS out of box but i want to try it, stock and custom just wanna see how different it is performance wise.
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Yeah I mean if you haven't rooted yet you're definitely missing out on like 50+ roms to try. There's plenty of different categories and types. You'll probably be amazed when you flash one of the latest (or last) GB build roms. They're blazing. Ady MIUI is like iOS on steroids. Cept the battery is meh. That's the only problem. And of course GB seems outdated now, but it's still got higher usability, imo. Part of what kills ICS is it takes so much longer for you to do things on your phone. I bet it drives up screen on time

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Lol I hope you're not trolling.
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Whatever I do, I'll never troll.

after brick my phone with the so called chip bug and change the mb after paying 100 with the same chip with a bug, flashing XWLPO and then XWLPT I decided to go back to 2.3.4. My battery last +2 days (everything disabled and underclocked) and everything looks smooth enogh for me. If you want a cool interface like ICS has (I see no reason at all to run ICS other than the interface) just install the free version of Go Launcher

Yeah I mean if you haven't rooted yet you're definitely missing out on like 50+ roms to try. There's plenty of different categories and types. You'll probably be amazed when you flash one of the latest (or last) GB build roms. They're blazing. Ady MIUI is like iOS on steroids. Cept the battery is meh. That's the only problem. And of course GB seems outdated now, but it's still got higher usability, imo. Part of what kills ICS is it takes so much longer for you to do things on your phone. I bet it drives up screen on time
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no my phone is rooted and i already flashed custom roms for more then 10 times( all ics expect 2 latest build of cmx) not a big fan of ios looks but im looking forward to try out other gb roms, but im keep coming back to stock based roms just b'coz of camera and that is wht i really want to see in stock gb : camera
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ithehappy said:
Whatever I do, I'll never troll.
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Good to hear it :good:
heavens dragon said:
no my phone is rooted and i already flashed custom roms for more then 10 times( all ics expect 2 latest build of cmx) not a big fan of ios looks but im looking forward to try out other gb roms, but im keep coming back to stock based roms just b'coz of camera and that is wht i really want to see in stock gb : camera
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Oh I gotcha. Yeah honestly stock camera blows all the other cameras away. Stock ICS camera is pretty decent too, but the button on stock gb is the best. feels more secure, and focus is instantaneous with press. MIUI (GB) is decent too except I found the quality a little worse and instant focus a little less accurate. Anti-shake is terrible on MIUI camera too.

Wow GB. Amazing memories .I think the best GB was XXKI4. But what can I know... I had GB for 2 or 3 months since this year's winter and then Boom! Boot loop. You know why guys?? I had brand XWKI4 and there were battery mods for XXKI4.So I flashed those ;p. And then came XXLPS.Now I am on LQ7 but It's not the same. Thanks bro I was waiting for man wich will lead me to GB. BTW first rom for SGS2 is XWKDD so?! Coman guys we have Gingerbread to flash
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can someone link the "best" (in his eyes) gb roms ?
i would love to try a few if they are really faster than ics (smoother).
was so close to try cm10 but so much stuff needs to be fixed...
for me the most important thing would be cam and a smooth feeling.
and can i use nova launcher prime on gb (is it looking the same?)
i never tried gb (my s2 came with ics, so....)

I haven't used GB since I got my S2, but I used it exclusively on my original S. When I moved from phone to phone I found the speed increase of GB on an S to ICS on my S2 simply mind blowing. I know it's nearly a 200% processor boost, but still. Now I'm using JellyBean. I get a full day of near constant use with an extended battery. (I'm a teen, we text all the time, so it gets a pretty heavy workout.) and the speed BLOWS AWAY Gingerbread and ICS without question.
So no, I don't miss it personally. And I'm using SwiftKey, which is an absolute dream. Way better than any stock kb I've ever used.
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Jellybean, disappointed with project butter. anyone else?

I have been loading most of the patchwork JB Roms that have been popping up here. I like some things about it, like Google Now, but I cant seem to understand "project butter." I cannot tell any real difference in smooth-ness. It still seems pretty laggy on my NS4G. I am hoping this is because either I have been using a newer device as my daily driver, or just that these Roms are hacked from other releases.
Does anyone else feel this way? What are your experiences with devices like the nexus 7 that were designed with JellyBean? smoother? same?

Nope I can see the difference its faster & smoother than ICS open app draw opens fast in ICS it took a little longer jellybean is the best OS update from Google so far 2 big thumbs up & I'm getting the same or a little better battery life than I was on ICS
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I can definitely see a huge difference it terms of smoothness. You should probably delete some apps you don't need or do a factory wipe.
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I mirror your experience, however am still hopeful that when Sprint releases the actual files, things will be better. I haven't experienced JB on any of the newer devices, but the reports are good. Life is all about expectations ... guess we should be thankful that we're even receiving the updates.

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Nope I can see the difference its faster & smoother than ICS open app draw opens fast in ICS it took a little longer jellybean is the best OS update from Google so far 2 big thumbs up & I'm getting the same or a little better battery life than I was on ICS
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FYI---it is VERY hard to understand you without any punctuation.

You still should keep in mind that we're on a 2 year old device... yeah yeah the original Nexus S came out in Dec 2010... not quite 2 years, but it's based off of tech that debuted in the original Galaxy S in the summer of that year. It's great hardware, but it's expected that we'll have a tough time dealing with newer OS' ... quite frankly I've considered going back to a stripped down CM7 just because of the smoothness compared to ICS (and JB) ... we're just running into serious RAM limitations on this device.

Piaband said:
I have been loading most of the patchwork JB Roms that have been popping up here. I like some things about it, like Google Now, but I cant seem to understand "project butter." I cannot tell any real difference in smooth-ness. It still seems pretty laggy on my NS4G. I am hoping this is because either I have been using a newer device as my daily driver, or just that these Roms are hacked from other releases.
Does anyone else feel this way? What are your experiences with devices like the nexus 7 that were designed with JellyBean? smoother? same?
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Try different kernels as well with the rom.
I definitely see a difference,
I have no more lag at all with what i used to before.

I think, the UI can be a bit smoother, but multitasking and opening/closing apps works smoooooth!

Much faster and smoother than ICS.
Running Jelly Belly 1.5.1
Don't expect 2 much from old device like nexus s.

Google is getting sued for project butter being "too smooth" by apple because apple claimed smoothness was patented.
Kidding,
But, I could see it happening.
JB is 3 steps ahead of any other OS :x

I am on jelly bean. I want to ask too why browsing in chrome is laggy? Opening apps and switching between apps is smooth though, but I dont feel that only switching and opening apps constitute the project butter.

I just don't like the fact that it keeps the phone awake over night. You ask me jellybean trying to do too much in the background. Last night I turned off 3g. When I woke up someone sent me a mms at 12am. When I check the battery stats it kept my phone awake trying to download a mms without data on. Not to smart
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lekhwani said:
I am on jelly bean. I want to ask too why browsing in chrome is laggy? Opening apps and switching between apps is smooth though, but I dont feel that only switching and opening apps constitute the project butter.
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Dialer slow, opening Apps in Settings freaking slow, chrome slow...

JB gave new life to my NS, definitely the smoothest it has ever been, and I don't feel the need to OC. As I do with all phones/roms, all transitions and animations are turned off, including the third one added with JB. Also using Nova launcher, but am going to try Apex again now that they updated it with JB base.
And the biggest thing I noticed is how quickly the recents come up now, it's instant. I honestly didn't think that would be possible on the NS.

Piaband said:
I have been loading most of the patchwork JB Roms that have been popping up here. I like some things about it, like Google Now, but I cant seem to understand "project butter." I cannot tell any real difference in smooth-ness. It still seems pretty laggy on my NS4G. I am hoping this is because either I have been using a newer device as my daily driver, or just that these Roms are hacked from other releases.
Does anyone else feel this way? What are your experiences with devices like the nexus 7 that were designed with JellyBean? smoother? same?
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Pick up the Galaxy Nexus and you'll see the difference much clearer. NS is just plain old.

Why don't you try setting animations to 0.5?
Nexus S (GMS i9020a)
Paranoid (1.6 - 4.0.4)
Matrix Kernel (CFS - 20.0)
Ondemmand (800/100)
Deep Idle (On - Deadline)
Live OC - 100 (400/800)
BLX - 98 (Inverted Apps)

People don't like change, I remember seeing threads bashing ICS when it came out. Its new and the devs here have done made great progress in the short time since its release.
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smoka206 said:
People don't like change, I remember seeing threads bashing ICS when it came out. Its new and the devs here have done made great progress in the short time since its release.
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I'm not bashing at all, love jelly bean.
Just mentioned where is slow.

Piaband said:
FYI---it is VERY hard to understand you without any punctuation.
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I didn't know I was in school & you where an English teacher. I think you need an eye exam if you can't see or feel that jellybean is faster than ICS.
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lekhwani said:
I am on jelly bean. I want to ask too why browsing in chrome is laggy? Opening apps and switching between apps is smooth though, but I dont feel that only switching and opening apps constitute the project butter.
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Chrome is a ram hog. Add in all the other processes eating ram, and you'll see why it's laggy.
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Am I the only one who finds ICS & JB unbearably slow on Nexus S?

Seriously, it's like treacle! I'm about ready to root and install gingerbread.
Dialler takes forever to come up, when I tap the search button it takes many seconds for the keyboard to appear.
No-one else seems to mention this problem?
I have very few apps installed, and certainly no bloatware like task killers, etc.

No, you aren't the only one. Our phone is just a bit too old. All we can do now is bear with it until we upgrade.
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Jelly bean is slow as **** for me. I guess most of the people just can't notice that jb's animations and reaction time when touching the screen is just delayed.
I've been frustrated with my nexus not acting fast untill i tried one combination. I'm i9023 user and this combo is just perfect for my phone. No input lag whatsoever, no animation lag, everything is just fast and instantly responsive. Give it a try and tell me what you think.
Cm9.1 stable:
http://get.cm/get/3F6
Air kernel 4.4:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/lfonudtw9ngerwf/Air_Kernel_v4.4_65fps+blue.zip
Gapps:
http://cmw.22aaf3.com/gapps/gapps-ics-20120317-signed.zip
Use it with apex launcher, because trebuchet may lag when opening app drawer. To avoid dialler lag, i suggest using exdialer, it's downloadable from the market.
Please try that and let me know if I'm the only one who sees the difference
Even the keyboard is just faster than on jb. Scrolling, switching between windows, statusbar is more responsive. Try and tell me what you think.
Sometime I wonder how come poeple say jelly bean is faster than ics. First impressions are good, but after very short time of usage jelly bean is full of slow ****. Every rom based on jb is just slower than this combo.
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Nope. No problems here. Phone is fast and stable, although a little struggling with battery life, but like I said before somewhere in these forums, life is full of tradeoffs.

Yes this thing is slow. Its actually kept me from being involved with the phone. I don't add different ROMs or anything anymore because they all feel to heavy for this phone.
I'm just counting down the days until the next Nexus is released.
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"Am I the only one who finds ICS & JB unbearably slow on Nexus S?"
Pretty much, no problems here.

Xperia ROM
Hi,
For all of you who are not happy with the speed of Nexus S, try using this rom -
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1827071&highlight=xperia
I can assure it is definitely much faster than the stock ICS or jellybean ROMs. If you have been using the stock Nexus S ROMS, you will see noticeable difference in the colours. They are much better on this Xperia ROM and does not have that yellow shade. I love the ROM and believe me I have tried almost every ROM available on XDA for for Nexus S.
Though there are 2 issues, for which I haven't found any solution, it blocks the calls coming from unknown numbers and you do not even see a missed call. And you can't use the default screen locks. But apart from these, the ROM is rock solid, never crashes or hangs, everything works fine and it is ultra smooth.
If you think your phone is running slow, I highly recommend this ROM. Everyone should give this ROM at least a try.
Let me know if I helped by clicking Thanks

Mines seems fast but battery life is terrible getting a galaxy nexus next week
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I don't really notice a difference speedwise between ICS and JB. They are both a little slower than GB was, but not unbearable. The added features of ICS/JB are well worth it IMO.
Overclocking a little bit can help, although it can hurt battery performance a bit.

muldy said:
"Am I the only one who finds ICS & JB unbearably slow on Nexus S?"
Pretty much, no problems here.
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Agreed. Current combo keeps up with wife's combo. Don't know what the OP is talking about. See sig for both setups.

I agree with jellybean being kinda slow. However, i dont know if it's just the rom's were installing on our device, cause i kinda remember stock JB being pretty fluid which is kinda making wanna go back to stock again

GB was stale, solid, and best battery life.
I miss having a flashlight app that worked and better battery life.
ICS and JB have been ok up until I started having power button issues last week.
JRO03L update seems to have fixed the majority of freezes, crashes, and power button issue.
After the reality has set in, I would have stick with GB

no problems here. aokp jb build 2 and beladus marmite 4.4 kernel combo is running smooth on mine.
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Slow? My phone is faster than ever. The fact though that your phone is not rooted explains your struggle.
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kwibis said:
Slow? My phone is faster than ever. The fact though that your phone is not rooted explains your struggle.
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Are you implying that every end-user of android phones should learn to root or install custom roms/kernel to get a DECENT experience? While I'm content to see Google supporting a device almost 2 years after its release (Apple does that as well btw), I'm kind of feeling disgusted about the overall user experience, laggyness, crashes, random reboots and decreased battery life. I wish Google released a FINISHED product/operating system and not leave its customers in a sort of beta-testing fog.

I'd suggest backing up your data and wipe your whole device like a madman. Format.
And start from scratch with the rom of your choice
Might be that time for your ol' precious Nexus S.
I did. And its very worth it :thumbup:
And for the others.. like the previous post..
Jump on the apple train. Yes, There os is stable... but stale
Dive in!
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Memory management is the problem...
I think the problem has to do with the way memory is managed in ICS/JB... I still can't find found a recent ROM that will keep the launcher in memory no matter what. That's terrible for user experience! None of the task or memory manager apps in the Google Play Store seem to help either.

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slow??? my NS is lightning fast! with slim bean ROM and bedalus kernel

DMardroid said:
I'd suggest backing up your data and wipe your whole device like a madman. Format.
And start from scratch with the rom of your choice
Might be that time for your ol' precious Nexus S.
I did. And its very worth it :thumbup:
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^ this. I was having a bad experience with JB as well until I formatted my sdcard. And I'm not talking about wiping from CWM. I'm talking about mounting it as USB storage and formatting from a PC.
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Highway 55 said:
^ this. I was having a bad experience with JB as well until I formatted my sdcard. And I'm not talking about wiping from CWM. I'm talking about mounting it as USB storage and formatting from a PC.
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+1
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