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Thinking about going back to stock AOSP rom

The stock AOSP rom seemed to run better than cm 7.03 plus it was 2.3.4. I know tge nightlys are the latest but I need somd stablility on my phone. CM7 seems buggy on this device even a couple random reboots. Anybody else experience similar results?
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chubb16 said:
The stock AOSP rom seemed to run better than cm 7.03 plus it was 2.3.4. I know tge nightlys are the latest but I need somd stablility on my phone. CM7 seems buggy on this device even a couple random reboots. Anybody else experience similar results?
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Stock 2.3.4 is great stability wise and has tremendous battery life.

Iv been running zuluzulu for about a week now and it flies. Great battery life although I am a heavy user. I haven't experienced random reboots at all with it. Also if you like the notification power widget from cm7 its built into zuluzulu.
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chubb16 said:
The stock AOSP rom seemed to run better than cm 7.03 plus it was 2.3.4. I know tge nightlys are the latest but I need somd stablility on my phone. CM7 seems buggy on this device even a couple random reboots. Anybody else experience similar results?
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Try AdamG's oxygen ROM and you'll never want the stock ROM again. It isn't built on cm7, it's based on aosp ROM.
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I'm on oxygen now. Really a nice rom. I had opensoju downloaded too, but I went with oxygen.
But I do miss the rotary lockscreen on cm, with the messaging shortcut in the middle.
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lvnatic said:
Try AdamG's oxygen ROM and you'll never want the stock ROM again. It isn't built on cm7, it's based on aosp ROM.
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Agreed. AdamG's Oxygen Rom is my favourite right now. It's AOSP GRJ22 with some of the great features from CyanogenMOD built in (status bar power widget, improved widget picker, etc) and fantastic battery life!

A stable cm 7.1 (2.34) will be out very soon. No worries
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With many devices over many years, I've consistently found that stock firmware is more stable and functional than enthusiast-developed firmware.
I have literally never found an enthusiast-developed firmware that doesn't have at least some minor interface glitches. Most have some problem that's major enough that after a few hours of playing I revert to stock.
Occasionally I will run something other than stock, but that is typically after the device has aged to the point that this is the only way to get a feature. By that point, it's usually time to replace the device, anyway.

chubb16 said:
I'm on oxygen now. Really a nice rom. I had opensoju downloaded too, but I went with oxygen.
But I do miss the rotary lockscreen on cm, with the messaging shortcut in the middle.
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You can add that stuff with Widget Locker.
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With many devices over many years, I've consistently found that stock firmware is more stable and functional than enthusiast-developed firmware.
I have literally never found an enthusiast-developed firmware that doesn't have at least some minor interface glitches. Most have some problem that's major enough that after a few hours of playing I revert to stock.
Occasionally I will run something other than stock, but that is typically after the device has aged to the point that this is the only way to get a feature. By that point, it's usually time to replace the device, anyway.
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I agree in general, but of course there are exception. When I had an HTC Evo 4G, I ended up running CM6 as my daily and it was exceptionally stable. At least as good as stock HTC Sense. Unfortunately when Gingerbread came around, that changed, and CM7 was not in the same ballpark.
On my Nexus, though... yeah I run stock ROM. CM7 is cool and if I had any other device (that came with a carrier OS and not pure Android), I would dump that shiz and rock CM7 for sure. But plain pure stock Android developed by a team of amazing developers specifically for this device, that's just not going to be beat

Hah. Google's "official" code isn't really better then what rom devs provide if they know what they're doing. The way google keeps pushing buggy code without giving a s*** is really disappointing. They release updates and then they stop caring about it. As some pointed out the gb update brought call delay and broke aac support, it really seems like they don't even do some basic testing before releasing a new version (which even the crappiest developer on the block generally does). On top of that, there is still no support at all for gpu acceleration in the ui, which is kinda retarded. Day after day i'm getting more and more disappointed about google dev team's job, they don't really deserve half the respect that many geeks keep tributing them.

Stock vs Custom rom on the NS was something I always thought about too! I only ran stock for a few hours because I immediately flashed a new rom when I got my phone LOL But what I can remember from the stock 2.3.4 was that it was fast, faster than any phone I've ever had. But there are so many features that are incorporated in custom roms and it's really hard to forgo these things.
Anyone out there who has used both stock 2.3.4 and oxygen who can attest to better battery life and performance? I am curious as well.
The last phone I used for a long time running stock was my N1 but after flashing CM6 I never really looked back. Speed increase was very noticeable and battery life was better. This is the reason why I never really bothered to use stock software for my next phones.

well, to be honest, i kinda regret to be flashed customs. Stock is so stable and has so good battery life, but now i can't live without cm7 features, just can't...
it's sad story that shows that you can't miss what you don't know! =oP

I agree for the most part, stock gb is pretty good. Using Oxygen now, and the stability and speed from stock + some nice features makes it a good choice!
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Is there really a difference?? Especially when compared to a bare bones aosp build like oxygen?

kingofthebraves said:
Is there really a difference?? Especially when compared to a bare bones aosp build like oxygen?
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In the case of Oxygen not much difference but I believe CM pretty much guts the framework and replaces it with their own heavily modded version.

does facebook sync work on all ASOP roms? or is it just CM7?

Just wondering - does CM 7 for Nexus S still have the video capture glitch where a couple of seconds are skipped near the beginning when played back?

dsixda said:
Just wondering - does CM 7 for Nexus S still have the video capture glitch where a couple of seconds are skipped near the beginning when played back?
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tested right now and couldn't notice... if there is any, it's less than 1sec!

Nexus S/Bugless Beast.

I'm receiving a white Nexus S in a couple of days running Bugless Beast (I believe its running the latest nightly). I'm just wondering if I can get some feedback on the ROM from the people who use it.
From a little of what I've read it seems to be a very well known ROM and developer. I've never had a "Pure" Google phone so I'm a little excited to see what it can do and so forth.
I know there's a thread about his announcement but I really don't feel like reading through 49 pages.
Thanks.
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Auxilium said:
I'm receiving a white Nexus S in a couple of days running Bugless Beast (I believe its running the latest nightly). I'm just wondering if I can get some feedback on the ROM from the people who use it.
From a little of what I've read it seems to be a very well known ROM and developer. I've never had a "Pure" Google phone so I'm a little excited to see what it can do and so forth.
I know there's a thread about his announcement but I really don't feel like reading through 49 pages.
Thanks.
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It's very close to a stock Android experience, and it's fast. You don't get a lot of the extra features like you do with other ROMs like CyanogenMod or Modaco's (to name a couple), but it's really nice on performance.
Also, if you don't like it, you can always flash a different ROM.

I heard the ICS update has had mixed feelings about battery life, some say its better some say its worse, hows this ROM on battery usage?
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battery life will definitely vary between handsets. With my experiences its all luck. Some roms I would get decent battery life, other roms, not so much. This is coming from a person who tried every ics rom other there.
Currently on pixel.
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i followed pete all the way up with my crespo and i can say his gingerbread roms are very good. they run smooth and stable even the instable nightlies. maybe the consumption should be lower but when i changed kernel(s)/rom(s) i always experienced instability or higher consumption. so my advice is to keep a "clean" pete rom. it's a good compromize.
regarding his ics roms ... i'm not not completely convinced e.g. the kernel is far from the best. however, it's just the beginning. i hope it ending up as the GB series.

Is there a main recovery for the Nexus S? Or does everyone just use Koushs CWM (ROM Manager)?
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I am getting 20+ hrs on BB1/5 ICS.

Auxilium said:
Is there a main recovery for the Nexus S? Or does everyone just use Koushs CWM (ROM Manager)?
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There's only two I have really seen, CWM and TWRP both are similar but TWRP has a few features cwm does not have.
1)TWRP is touch enabled
2)TWRP lets you choose which partitions to backup
Well that's all I know atm xD
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I'm now using the latest 5 Jan BuglessBeast + Eugene 3.1.6 ICUP kernel,
cpu governor is smartassv2 and the result is an awesomeness. Really fast and smooth.
It's a close-to-stock vanilla rom. No visual UI mods but system enhancement and
optimization. Pete is a really good and well known developer.
It's also less power consume. The battery now is 66%, 12 hours usage.
I did some phone calls & a lot messages through SMS, MiTalk and WhatsApp.
A suggestion : you must try it yourself

TWRP has a recovery for the Atrix as well but it's still rather new, not many people have used it.
That's pretty good battery life considering you made voice calls and a lot of texts. I'll have to try that setup.
Thanks for the info.
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I see your on the Atrix now. I had the Atrix for about 1 week. I couldn't stand it. The UI is nothing compared to that of the pure Google phone. The motoblur UI made the atrix seem laggy over the nexus s. I've been using the nexus s ever since and never regretted it. Still have my Atrix in my drawer.
As for the bugless beast. I'm using it now and it's great. No force closes of apps or anything. Theres one for ics and GB out there. I would reccomed Eugene's speedy kernel 3 for battery life. If you need help with BFS and CFS and which you should pick just let me know and I'll help. Welcome to the nexus family. You'll love it.
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heinst said:
I see your on the Atrix now. I had the Atrix for about 1 week. I couldn't stand it. The UI is nothing compared to that of the pure Google phone. The motoblur UI made the atrix seem laggy over the nexus s. I've been using the nexus s ever since and never regretted it. Still have my Atrix in my drawer.
As for the bugless beast. I'm using it now and it's great. No force closes of apps or anything. Theres one for ics and GB out there. I would reccomed Eugene's speedy kernel 3 for battery life. If you need help with BFS and CFS and which you should pick just let me know and I'll help. Welcome to the nexus family. You'll love it.
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Thanks alot! Might need to take you up on that once I get the Nexus. I've heard from quite a few people recommending Eugenes speedy kernel, ill have to see what kernel its using already and go from there.
I agree that the motoblur on. The Atrix was pretty bad, but with custom roms like Darkside and CM7 based roms it makes the phone so much better. Should try it sometime.
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ICS Blues Crespo4g

Anyone else noticed how much cleaner and faster gingerbread is when you rollback ICS?
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Nope
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Did you rollback with a nandroid restore, or...?

Nope.
I could never go back to a pre 4.0 rom, ever. ICS is smoother, faster, and such a better experience than gingerbread ever was.

Nope, ICS is smoother for me.

Yeh gingerbread has been way smoother for me... just went back to Pete's 2.3 rom instead of his 4.0.3 and I love it.... I'm waiting for the official release

yep! anyone who says the ics is smoother is definitely fooling himself. with current ics builds, even the boot animation churns slowly.
still don't believe me? open up messaging or whatever, type something with the keyboard and hit home. see how the keyboard sticks on the screen? that's anything but smooth, to me.

We agree to disagree.

v3rk said:
yep! anyone who says the ics is smoother is definitely fooling himself. with current ics builds, even the boot animation churns slowly.
still don't believe me? open up messaging or whatever, type something with the keyboard and hit home. see how the keyboard sticks on the screen? that's anything but smooth, to me.
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mmm mine doesn't stick on the screen , it instantly disappears and goes to the home screen. With ics vs gb i have far less slow downs after a couple of days with ics , gb i had to restart every few days or it would get snail on me.

jietzer said:
mmm mine doesn't stick on the screen , it instantly disappears and goes to the home screen. With ics vs gb i have far less slow downs after a couple of days with ics , gb i had to restart every few days or it would get snail on me.
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What ROM and kernel are you using? I couldn't get rid of it no matter what I tried.
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Yeah gb is way more responsive. I tried cm9, vhgomez, oics and aokp. Also tried matrix kernel a couple times. It isn't that ics isn't smooth...i think it's quite smooth scrolling and transitioning but actions all take a little longer in ics...like the phone is working harder. There is a small delay on everything...it just isn't as responsive. i like the look of ics a lot but it isn't worth the hit in performance right now. It runs really well on my transformer prime though. I think that's why i don't like using it on my nexus because it is so easy to compare and see how much slower it is. Hopefully the official build is more responsive. If not i have no problem sticking with gb until the gnex is released on sprint.

Maybe not try a custom kernel
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Gingerbread

Just thought I would flash back to Gingerbread to refresh my device back to stock, then was planning on testing out a few more ROMS...but I decided to stay here just a little while...
WOW its fast, I have forgotten just how slick and speedy GB was, what I don't understand that all the ICS roms I have tried are just not as fast as GB, ok you miss a few things, but overall, it seems notifications, games, apps and TW all flow and open a lot faster and snappier.
Is this just my imagination, can some explain why ICS is slower in general to GB
Anyone else still on Gingerbread?

stock ICS is 10x better than GB, however you wont notice this unless you use a pure AOSP / AOKP / CM9 ROM.
Samsung tend to fill their ROMs with crap and junk that the average XDAer wont need, even more so with ICS as its a little buggy at the best of times, So in your case GB is faster than ICS, However, Use a AOSP ROM and you will be blown away.
The majority of us (me included!) Tend to think its better to have the latest version of android whether it is better or not lol

Ive just come from RocketROM, CM9 Imilkas Hybrid ROM and GOATRIPS 2.1 rom, none are as fast and snappy as my Stock GB rooted with Speedmod kernel

wow !! Im suprised by that, I imagined you would think CM9 is faster.
Ah well, If its fast for you and your happy with it, thats all that matters. Im torn between ROMs, theres so many out there i dont know what to try next lol, I can never stick to one ROM, I must change ROMs at least 4 times a week.

I too have ROM addiction, flashed 5 times this week...help its worse than alcohol
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THUDUK said:
I too have ROM addiction, flashed 5 times this week...help its worse than alcohol
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haha ! it really is !
I spend all my spare time on XDA and flashing ROMs, its taking over my life. No Joke !:crying:

azzledazzle said:
haha ! it really is !
I spend all my spare time on XDA and flashing ROMs, its taking over my life. No Joke !:crying:
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+1
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Rofl, agree with most of the above, especially with regard to xda vs alcohol
To OP, if you think stock ics is fast now, wait for a couple of updates.... I think stock ics beats stock gb hands down on all fronts. Have a look at a galaxy nexus if you get a chance, its phenominal.
As always, initial manufacturers releases of new versions are buggy as hell, but I have no doubt that even Samsung will iron out the bugs in good time. Ics rocks!
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Should I upgrade to ICS?

Was just wondering.....
Kind of late to be upgrading
But I don't exactly own the phone.
Should I upgrade?
Will there be any issues with the apps / games?
Is there any new good functionality?
And I will be upgrading via Kies cause the phone isn't mine so will I be losing and Calendar Entries?
I know I won't lose contacts or apps....
Just worried about Calendar Entries.

ICS n GB really not much differences,ICS battery life shorter,unless you take the troblesom to do flash.
Better wait for Jelly Bean 4.1

no you should not . i m on ics but if i find enough energy and time i will go back to gb. ics on note is just gb with shorter battery life. paranoid is a good rom with very good hybrid features i liked it but because cm9 doesnt run an app that i have to run i had to quit using it . you can try it.

There are some superb ICS custom roms out there, but I try them out, even trying Stock ICS now, but at the end of the day GB is just so dam fast and battery life is amazing compared, all your miss is swipe to remove a single notification, a few extra Widgets and the odd setting...I suppose GB took a while to get to the good state its in now, perhaps when JellyBean arrives ICS will have evolved into a faster more battery friendly state...
My advise stay with GB

To be frank. I don't see a shorter battery life and I use my device constantly.
Ive usually drained the battery about 5 to 6 hours from a full charge.
I have Facebook, instagram, 4 gmail accounts (on push) and whatsapp.

yup ICS is faster in terms of response.... but also faster in draining battery

I would go back to gb if i could. I had no complaints on gingerbread ive found ics to have a less stable wifi connection and im not overly keen on the changes theyve made to task manager and the settings menu. I see little to no improvement overall and im sure my wifi is less stable i googled it and im not alone.
So keep it on gingerbread sell it in september and get the galaxy note2 running jellybean. Mine will be up for sale soon.
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Ts, I have the same thoughts as you 2 months back. Frankly, gb is Good enough but I am itchy hand type, So go ahead with Ics, root and other stuff....Hahaha...that's what thus forum is for right?
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I guess depending upon all your reviews I will wait for JellyBean....

Does anybody know when Jellybean is coming out?
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FinancialWar said:
Does anybody know when Jellybean is coming out?
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It's unknown, although unlikely that there will be an official release of 4.1. There will certainly be some 4.1 unofficial ROMs made available at some point though (I'm not sure the source is even officially out yet).
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There's really no compelling reason to upgrade to ICS, but I wouldn't go back to GB.
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I m sticking with gb as well, tried a few ics rom and they have all got different problrms.
I ll probably never going to upgrade to jelly bean since there is no flash support. Need flash til the other end of the world change....
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When my OTA notice (Samsung ICS touchwiz LPY) came in 1- 2 months back , I OTAed while watching TV. Easy as pie. ICS has been fine, better that GB in most ways but cleaner but minor upgrade, I like the new pen stuff, that I can use Photoshop and ICS apps and my battery life is fine. My only problem is the bug with my Samsung Car Dock, which freezes when I plug it in and have the phone horizontally but again my battery life is so good, I do not charge in the car. While I use the Samsung pen touchwiz stuff and am happy with the official toucheiz ICS, I would jump in a second to a pure ICS if Jelly bean was in since I love any kind of voice recognition stuff ( use vlingo and skyvi now) and the Google Voice/Google Now stuff has been rated as great and a game changer.
So while here at XDA it is all about odin, instructions and roms - which is fine - I can tell you that just straight OTA from Samsung touchwiz/ICS is easy and fine too ( at least for me and many others).

If you feel yourself wanting to get a smoother and faster experience at the cost of battery-life I would.
Just a note of caution though.
DO NOT FLASH STOCK ICS Chances are that at some period you will brick your note unless you flash another kernel (ie. franco kernel), because of the Samsung superbrick (or eMMc) bug.
If you are comfortable flashing custom ROMs I'd highly recommend using Paranoid Android. I am currently using it, and have had few to no issues with it. And with light/moderate usage, it still lasts me a day and a half or two between charges.

OK, updated to ICS via Kies a couple of days ago, and have tried it since. The battery life issue is a deal killer for me, and whatever extra features there are still does not make it better than Gingerbread overall. Can someone please point me to a thread or tutorial for rolling back to stock Gingerbread?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1424997
It has all stock ROMs and instructions in the second post.
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gingerbread is best suitable for my note will never update to any ics version as i recently got a emmc bug when updated to ics through ota and my motherboard is needed to be replaced.. now in my note with new motherboard i got preinstalled gb and will stick to it forever
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Ranafram said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1424997
It has all stock ROMs and instructions in the second post.
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Thank you.

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