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GPS update ETA: "Samsung is optimizing GPS, look for updates in sept."

http://twitter.com/Samsungservice/status/21089686644
Samsung is testing software to optimize GPS on Galaxy S phones. Look for updates in September. Details & download instructions to follow.
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Awesome .. good news ....

I sort of figured that it'd roll in with the Froyo update, which is supposed to drop within the September timeframe too.

masterotaku said:
I sort of figured that it'd roll in with the Froyo update, which is supposed to drop within the September timeframe too.
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I hope so. I'm actually pretty surprised they let a device go this long with this problem. Mine works much better after some HACKS but honestly, the phones' gps should work right out of the box in my opinion. And if we get towards the end of September and the only update addressed is to fix something that was broken in the first place thats going to hurt Samsung seeing as there's been talks about September Froyo.

Great, thanks for the update! Looking forward to it!
Sent from my Rooted Samsung Vibrant using XDA App

Good stuff. Hope it comes with froyo.

Notice how they don't mention that there is a problem... "Samsung is testing software to optimize GPS on Galaxy S phones."

Sounds some what promising. Thanks for the update.

They've been very careful about how they are wording their responses on this issue. They are trying to pull an Apple, by admitting there is a problem without admitting there is a problem.
I certainly hope it gets fixed as it is really aggravating. Tried using the GPS today with Flixster and all I got was a black screen for my efforts (had to pull the battery to turn it back on).

Just turn off GPS and use network-based location for the time being. It's worded perfectly, but it does promise an update. It's no different from what other manufactures do. "an update to improve functionality" and etc.

I haven't heard of anyone's GPS completely not working, so you could call it optimizing. My Vibrant has the same issues as everyone else it seems, the issue is still on my old Mytouch and my friends Droid. So I would personally call it optimizing and not fixing.
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Is that gps freezing common? Most reports I've seen have just been lock and accuracy issues. Mine is slow to lock and doesn't have the best accuracy (25-40 feet), but doesn't freeze the phone.
Sent from my SGS Vibrant

tissimo said:
Is that gps freezing common? Most reports I've seen have just been lock and accuracy issues. Mine is slow to lock and doesn't have the best accuracy (25-40 feet), but doesn't freeze the phone.
Sent from my SGS Vibrant
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Today was the first time I encountered this issue, although it has been mentioned on this forum as well as others. Doesn't seem to be widespread, but it certainly is annoying.
Heygirl,
Forever the optimist Disabling a major feature of the phone is a poor workaround for a problem that really should never had made it past whatever QC Samsung has. Darn shame as this really is a good phone. It will be a great one once this issue if fixed.

tweak89 said:
Today was the first time I encountered this issue, although it has been mentioned on this forum as well as others. Doesn't seem to be widespread, but it certainly is annoying.
Heygirl,
Forever the optimist Disabling a major feature of the phone is a poor workaround for a problem that really should never had made it past whatever QC Samsung has. Darn shame as this really is a good phone. It will be a great one once this issue if fixed.
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What do you want from me or anyone else? A fix that doesn't exist yet? I said to avoid the GPS and likely, it's driver from crashing the entire phone - to DISABLE it and this goes for anyone else having the same issue but not knowing the cause. If you have a problem with that, you can finish this sentence yourself.

Well this is what we all were waiting for. Of course people are still going to *****, but we shouldn't care. This phone is clearly the best investment you can make in terms of a phone, let's celebrate.
Now that this issue is addressed I hope their sales increase and development increases for these trail blazing phones.
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App

zoid_99 said:
Notice how they don't mention that there is a problem... "Samsung is testing software to optimize GPS on Galaxy S phones."
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Typical corporate spin...just the iPhone 4 fiasco. Companies don't want to be legally liable by admitting fault.

heygrl said:
What do you want from me or anyone else? A fix that doesn't exist yet? I said to avoid the GPS and likely, it's driver from crashing the entire phone - to DISABLE it and this goes for anyone else having the same issue but not knowing the cause. If you have a problem with that, you can finish this sentence yourself.
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Wow,sensitive much? Not sure where I asked you or anyone else for anything (expecting a company to back their product and make it right isn't too much to ask, though). You gave me some advice and I commented. You seem to be taking it as a personal attack. Oh well.
Mark271 said:
Well this is what we all were waiting for. Of course people are still going to *****, but we shouldn't care. This phone is clearly the best investment you can make in terms of a phone, let's celebrate.
Now that this issue is addressed I hope their sales increase and development increases for these trail blazing phones.
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App
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Now that's optimism!! When the patch is being downloaded on my phone and the GPS is working properly, then I will celebrate, you can be sure of that

tweak89 said:
They've been very careful about how they are wording their responses on this issue. They are trying to pull an Apple, by admitting there is a problem without admitting there is a problem.
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Actually, Apple would say "Our problem is inherent in all phones of this type, if you don't like it, simply return the phone and move on"

Now, all they have to do is bundle it up with froyo and it's all good!

j0hnZ said:
I haven't heard of anyone's GPS completely not working, so you could call it optimizing. My Vibrant has the same issues as everyone else it seems, the issue is still on my old Mytouch and my friends Droid. So I would personally call it optimizing and not fixing.
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I have 4 of these phones in my family and not a single one works GPS wise. None of them will lock on to any of the GPS sats here in Kansas. Occasionally there will be a blip on one of the satellites to 15 - 18 dbHz, but then it'll return to 0.

[Very, very sad] Losing touch screen !!!!

Very sad news: I found that Transformer is built very bad hardware. The first is designed rickety, open light error and today, my screen was completely out of touch.
I am using normal and always in my pocket camalgams sock opens today but can not be unlocked by sliding finger. I tried rebooting many times. Even reset the rom but still is not. And I think that is certainly due to bad hardware.
The sad thing is that my machine was purchased overseas and now can not guarantee. I thought maybe I never use Asus again.
Who is like me?

what is your build number? what ROM are you using? did you try reflashing it? wiping it might not do anything but reflashing could. did you use the nvflash method?

HungSanity said:
Very sad news: I found that Transformer is built very bad hardware. The first is designed rickety, open light error and today, my screen was completely out of touch.
I am using normal and always in my pocket camalgams sock opens today but can not be unlocked by sliding finger. I tried rebooting many times. Even reset the rom but still is not. And I think that is certainly due to bad hardware.
The sad thing is that my machine was purchased overseas and now can not guarantee. I thought maybe I never use Asus again.
Who is like me?
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Just because your tablet was faulty,doesnt mean all transformers are this way,you had some misfortune,but that doesnt mean to bring everyone else down with you.We will help you out as much as possible,but leave the negativity at home.

HungSanity said:
Very sad news: I found that Transformer is built very bad hardware. The first is designed rickety, open light error and today, my screen was completely out of touch.
I am using normal and always in my pocket camalgams sock opens today but can not be unlocked by sliding finger. I tried rebooting many times. Even reset the rom but still is not. And I think that is certainly due to bad hardware.
The sad thing is that my machine was purchased overseas and now can not guarantee. I thought maybe I never use Asus again.
Who is like me?
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Like said above, what ROM you're running? You can try flashing Prime 1.4 with nvflash and see if it helps.

Diablo67 said:
Just because your tablet was faulty,doesnt mean all transformers are this way,you had some misfortune,but that doesnt mean to bring everyone else down with you.We will help you out as much as possible,but leave the negativity at home.
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before I buy one, I have read many complaints about the hardware failure of the Transformer, but finally decided to buy. And I was the victim.
Maybe I was a bit negative, I'm very sorry about that, but the machine of my friends are facing a similar situation (not including loss of touch-screen error).
I'm using the rom Prime v1.4, by nvflash root machine, operating system Android 3.1. I tried to flash and install rom but do not be.
Who is have a better way?

HungSanity said:
before I buy one, I have read many complaints about the hardware failure of the Transformer, but finally decided to buy. And I was the victim.
Maybe I was a bit negative, I'm very sorry about that, but the machine of my friends are facing a similar situation (not including loss of touch-screen error).
I'm using the rom Prime v1.4, by nvflash root machine, operating system Android 3.1. I tried to flash and install rom but do not be.
Who is have a better way?
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Some people have been able to fix this issue by letting the battery drain completely. This might take a long time though since the device will go into sleep mode once every 15seconds or so and causing it to drain little battery. I suggest you booting into CWM and letting it sit there till it shuts down by itself and then charge it to full to see if it helps. Many have reported success doing this.

frosty5689 said:
Some people have been able to fix this issue by letting the battery drain completely. This might take a long time though since the device will go into sleep mode once every 15seconds or so and causing it to drain little battery. I suggest you booting into CWM and letting it sit there till it shuts down by itself and then charge it to full to see if it helps. Many have reported success doing this.
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Thanks so much, i will try it
I used nvflash to flash, should not be able to recovery, for trying to open up this screen. The fully charged battery,

If it comes down to it,just flash back to the stock rom and uninstall clockwork,send it back with the warranty card and the issue your having and Asus will fix your problem or send you a new tab,a friend of mine had to do that,he has a new tab now.

HungSanity said:
I am using normal and always in my pocket camalgams sock opens today but can not be unlocked by sliding finger.
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What you say?

darkonex said:
What you say?
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Somebody set up us the bomb.

Underwater Mike said:
Somebody set up us the bomb.
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All your base are belong to us.

what country are you from and which country did you buy it from?

Malandro2011 said:
what country are you from and which country did you buy it from?
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So sorry, my english is bad. I live in Vietnam and bought this machine in Hong Kong.
My screen is now in the installation. It takes very little battery power, I don't know how long it takes to out of battery
Help me plz !!!!!!!!!!!

I had this problem too with my first TF ... i owned it about 1 hour.
As I went back to the shop they said to me that I wasn't the first with this problem. They just gave me a new one.
So flashing back to the stock rom and sending it to ASUS would be a good solution from my point of view.

No Asus in Vietnam?

darkonex said:
What you say?
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Do you think that mocking somebody who can't speak good English is funny?
The person has a problem and is asking for help. If you can't help, then shut the **** up.

e.mote said:
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Do you think that mocking somebody who can't speak good English is funny?
The person has a problem and is asking for help. If you can't help, then shut the **** up.
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What's especially funny is that we have a guy in Vietnam posting clearly enough in English that we know what's going on and have offered suggestions to fix his problem, which he is now following.
I wonder how many of us would be able to do the same in any foreign language forum, much less one in Vietnam.

Excuse the colorful language. I'm a Vietnamese expat who had to learn English, and these sort of grade-school behavior tend to get me hot under the collar. I wish I can help the OP, but I don't have a TF.

viking099 said:
What's especially funny is that we have a guy in Vietnam posting clearly enough in English that we know what's going on and have offered suggestions to fix his problem, which he is now following.
I wonder how many of us would be able to do the same in any foreign language forum, much less one in Vietnam.
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Unfortunately not many , which is very sad. If we are not careful we''ll be eaten up, spit out, & forgotten about if as a nation we don't change course.

Glitches with the transformer on 3.2

I just bought the transformer on Wednesday, and updated to 3.2 as soon as the battery was full enough to do so. I noticed that in the music app, sometimes when i clicked on one song, it would actually play a different one than what i chose. Also, yesterday when i clicked on the music app, thw mynet app opened instead. I went back to the home screem and tried again, but it still opened the wrong app. I force stopped the mynet app and tried again, but withis time it opened a game that i had installed.
I want to use this tablet for school starting on Tuesday, but I can't do that if it's not going to be reliable.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated. I'd love to see this work for the upcoming schoolyear.
I need to figure this out right away, so I can return it to the store if it's not going to work for me.
Oh, also, could somebody leae point me to the asus dock test. I can't seem to find it, and I am not ure if my b60 dock passes.

As I was using my tablet just now, I had the launcher crash on me, and everything was running very slowly. I had to restart my device to get it to cooperate.
So far, this tablet has not been meeting my expectations, or living up to the good things others have said of it. Are these kind of errors new to the 3.2 update? Can I expect them to be fixed soon Or should I return this tablet before it is too late?

do a factory reset this should help

irekz said:
do a factory reset this should help
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I have it set to backup my data, but is there anything else I should do to backup before restoring?

There is a lot of info on this forum much of which can be found with a little searching, battery drain, charging and common problems all here just search and read just like i did.

DT39 said:
There is a lot of info on this forum much of which can be found with a little searching, battery drain, charging and common problems all here just search and read just like i did.
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You should buy an ipad. I'm sure there are 10 million more threads on ipad stuff than android tablet stuff. There, you will be much happier telling people to use the search function all day long.

Caltosax said:
I just bought the transformer on Wednesday, and updated to 3.2 as soon as the battery was full enough to do so. I noticed that in the music app, sometimes when i clicked on one song, it would actually play a different one than what i chose. Also, yesterday when i clicked on the music app, thw mynet app opened instead. I went back to the home screem and tried again, but it still opened the wrong app. I force stopped the mynet app and tried again, but withis time it opened a game that i had installed.
I want to use this tablet for school starting on Tuesday, but I can't do that if it's not going to be reliable.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated. I'd love to see this work for the upcoming schoolyear.
I need to figure this out right away, so I can return it to the store if it's not going to work for me.
Oh, also, could somebody leae point me to the asus dock test. I can't seem to find it, and I am not ure if my b60 dock passes.
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You have a defective product. If factory reset doesn't fix these problems, you should exchange it for another one.
My transformer does not behave like what you describe at all. It is probably the only android tablet that could compete face on with the ipad 2. Don't let a defective product deter you.
That or you can just go and get an ipad. Apple's already got an army of whiners. If you don't want to help yourself, you should join them.

goodintentions said:
You should buy an ipad. I'm sure there are 10 million more threads on ipad stuff than android tablet stuff. There, you will be much happier telling people to use the search function all day long.
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why would i want a ipad i hate apple products! The reason for telling him to search was if you look at his total of 5 posts apart from this one he is asking for info that is already on the forum. The first person that i have ever suggested to use the search function.
So why don't you check your facts before flaming people.

goodintentions said:
You should buy an ipad. I'm sure there are 10 million more threads on ipad stuff than android tablet stuff. There, you will be much happier telling people to use the search function all day long.
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AHH burn the heathen, how dare you even utter that i crap name on xda, burrrrn. haha, naa mate just kidding, but actually owning an ipad 2 and a transformer pad myself, i think its much of a muchness as to the amount of problems they have, with only difference being about $400 in price :/ oh, and this isnt a one off thing because im on my second ipad 2 now. first one got stolen out of my car :/ anyway, getting side tracked, i had (and still very rarley do) similar problems to you, but after flashing i think the clemyses kernal or something to that effect my problems sorta dissapeared. i only put the kernal on to overclock and for the voodoo sound but im not sure how its helped, mine hardly ever crashes now. dunno, but just my 2 cents worth....

DT39 said:
There is a lot of info on this forum much of which can be found with a little searching, battery drain, charging and common problems all here just search and read just like i did.
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I had tried to search for the answer to this problem, but I guess I wasn't using the right search terms because I wasn't finding anything that was of any use. I also searched for the thread on the asus dock test, but I again could not find what I was looking for.
I was in a hurry to figure this out because I start school tomorrow, so I couldn't afford to not find the information I was looking for. I'm sorry if posting this thread bothered you, but that is my reasoning behind it.

Caltosax said:
I had tried to search for the answer to this problem, but I guess I wasn't using the right search terms because I wasn't finding anything that was of any use. I also searched for the thread on the asus dock test, but I again could not find what I was looking for.
I was in a hurry to figure this out because I start school tomorrow, so I couldn't afford to not find the information I was looking for. I'm sorry if posting this thread bothered you, but that is my reasoning behind it.
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Don't worry about it, dude. Some people are anal about the search function. To them, if a newbie can only ask a question if he has spent about 4 hours with the search function.
I've played with the search function before. It really does not find what you try to look for at times.
It's less of a headache if you just ignore the people who are anal about the search. Simply telling people to do a search even though the topic can't be found in search is downright rude. I say this as someone who created a whole website to help dummies with the g-tablet. And take a look at my thanks points.
Simply telling people to do a search is non-productive.

Caltosax said:
I had tried to search for the answer to this problem, but I guess I wasn't using the right search terms because I wasn't finding anything that was of any use. I also searched for the thread on the asus dock test, but I again could not find what I was looking for.
I was in a hurry to figure this out because I start school tomorrow, so I couldn't afford to not find the information I was looking for. I'm sorry if posting this thread bothered you, but that is my reasoning behind it.
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1. Root your tablet.
2. Install Titanium Backup free from Market.
3. Backup all your data using it.
4. Wipe everything (from CWM, or do a factory reset).
5. Flash some good custom ROM (and by good custom rom, I mean Prime).
6. If you're paranoid, wipe everything again after flashing.
7. Restore your apps using Titanium Backup again (only user apps, don't touch system apps).
8. Enjoy running a polished custom ROM with additional goods support with an overclocked kernel happily.
I'm in no way a supporter of full wipe, but if you have weird bugs you're unable to resolve, wiping is often the only way to go. As for the custom rom, running unrooted stock is like knowingly having your Ferrari hardcapped to 80 miles per hour max.

The newer transformers have a locked boot loader. But if you can I would definitely root... My tablet is a beast I can't get this thing to crash out or stutter if I want it to... My buddy just bought his on Friday says it performs perfectly, but no root, factory reset, don't work, return it....
Sent from my Primed Transformer!

Google taking a beating over Nexus 7 problems...

On Google groups people are upset, and rightfully so.
http://productforums.google.com/forum/#!category-topic/nexus/nexus-7/Tetp20r-REo
The Nexus 7 touchscreen problem has been ignored by google, Asus, the tech press......
Google has had a free pass long enough.
I'm glad I was able to return mine.
I hope you guys are paying attention to how they are handling this defect.....IGNORE IT.
I would advise to never buy from a company who ignores or runs from problems.

Mine works fine and most of the complaints are exaggerated as usual
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z0phi3l said:
Mine works fine and most of the complaints are exaggerated as usual
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Sure they are......:good:

z0phi3l said:
Mine works fine and most of the complaints are exaggerated as usual
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Mine does have this annoying touch problems, and it's really annoying. Yours fine? Good, please don't disrespect others complaint if yours "fine".
This is the kind of thing I don't understand, someone does a thread of the issue/news on it and suddenly comes people with their "fine" product and post how "fine" theirs are or/and that they don't care.
If your Nexus is "fine", then no need to read about it, enjoy it, but there are a lot of us who got a bad unit, I can't return it because it started after the 15 days of return warranty, so I'm stuck with it.

z0phi3l said:
Mine works fine and most of the complaints are exaggerated as usual
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I don't have breast cancer so most of the complaints are exaggerated as usual.
See the flaw in your logic?

NekroWolfen said:
Mine does have this annoying touch problems, and it's really annoying. Yours fine? Good, please don't disrespect others complaint if yours "fine".
This is the kind of thing I don't understand, someone does a thread of the issue/news on it and suddenly comes people with their "fine" product and post how "fine" theirs are or/and that they don't care.
If your Nexus is "fine", then no need to read about it, enjoy it, but there are a lot of us who got a bad unit, I can't return it because it started after the 15 days of return warranty, so I'm stuck with it.
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Yup, and the 15 day return period is a joke as well.
All defects should be covered by a free replacement warranty equal to the product warranty.....NOT REPAIR...and the customer should not pay a dime for shipping.
At least one year......after the way Google has handled this they should extend the free replacement warranty to 3 years. (Yeah right)

I'm not buying an Asus device again that's for sure, at least not until the product is well tested...

NekroWolfen said:
I'm not buying an Asus device again that's for sure, at least not until the product is well tested...
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Same here.....Google could have kept me by taking care of the problem.
I'm done with them too. They gave me the run around so bad I'm still dizzy.....

NekroWolfen said:
Mine does have this annoying touch problems, and it's really annoying. Yours fine? Good, please don't disrespect others complaint if yours "fine".
This is the kind of thing I don't understand, someone does a thread of the issue/news on it and suddenly comes people with their "fine" product and post how "fine" theirs are or/and that they don't care.
If your Nexus is "fine", then no need to read about it, enjoy it, but there are a lot of us who got a bad unit, I can't return it because it started after the 15 days of return warranty, so I'm stuck with it.
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Please don't disrespect us who have perfectly working products by only calling out those who have issues.
Mine works fine.

I'm not sure if 7 people in that thread is really Google taking a beating. Also, it really isn't Google's problem. It is Asus'. How many tablets were sold vs how many have the issue. I got mine on launch day and no issue. I've had to send a few different items back to Asus in the past and had to pay shipping every time, but then again, $7 for shipping vs having to buy a new item is ok in my eyes. What a gimme gimme gimme world we live in.

DaemonAshra said:
Please don't disrespect us who have perfectly working products by only calling out those who have issues.
Mine works fine.
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Next time, read well before quoting something directed to another user. I was specifically quoting him for saying that most of the complaints were exagerated, were a touch problem on a touch screen device is definitely not exagerated, besides how could you know if your device is working "fine". My quote wasn't directed at you, not interested in continuing this.

johnomaz said:
I'm not sure if 7 people in that thread is really Google taking a beating. Also, it really isn't Google's problem. It is Asus'. How many tablets were sold vs how many have the issue. I got mine on launch day and no issue. I've had to send a few different items back to Asus in the past and had to pay shipping every time, but then again, $7 for shipping vs having to buy a new item is ok in my eyes. What a gimme gimme gimme world we live in.
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ROFL!!
"A gimme gimme world!!" - You are a corporations dream come true!!!
I paid for a defective product and in my business, I take care of my customers who receive defects.
You are SO wrong.
Such a "gimme gimme world" that I just spent money on a new tablet that actually WORKS!!! Nobody gave it to me!! IMAGINE THAT. I spent my hard earned dollars and received a functioning product - WOW!! What a novel concept.
No need to be a prick.....and you were one.

I currently have a mild problem with the touch, it's not as bad as some but its still annoying. Has anyone who has rooted and installed a custom rom experience the touch problem go away?

JJbdoggg said:
I don't have breast cancer so most of the complaints are exaggerated as usual.
See the flaw in your logic?
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You use the word "so" where he uses "and". Two very different words and uses. I'm sorry if someone close has developed some form of cancer but don't bring it to an Android forum...:good:
Edit: Google isn't taking near the beating as you nay sayers lol

Mine's been working fine with no issues *knocks on wood*. I got it at launch. I don't expect any device to launch without issues but maybe it's just me. I'm not seeing this as a common widespread issue.

Mandelbrot.Benoit said:
You use the word "so" where he uses "and". Two very different words and uses. I'm sorry if someone close has developed some form of cancer but don't bring it to an Android forum...:good:
Edit: Google isn't taking near the beating as you nay sayers lol
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Okay replace and with so, my point still stands.
I also don't see how my analogy would be offensive to someone who knows someone with breast cancer so don't turn it into that, you also don't make the rules so I'll bring it up if I want to.

ilikeguitars said:
I currently have a mild problem with the touch, it's not as bad as some but its still annoying. Has anyone who has rooted and installed a custom rom experience the touch problem go away?
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Yup.
My touchscreen was mildly effected also. Mostly the missing touch problem when not holding the device (ie: sitting on a table or such).
Rooted using the forum tutorials, installed sfhub's ts10 update and the touchscreen works fine now. No skips, no missing or ghost touches.
For the record, I've only been using android for about 2 weeks now so it's not that hard to learn how to apply the fix that worked on mine.
Now, should an end user have to do you this to their device? Nope, it should come this way. For mine it was such an easy fix, it would seem they have no excuse for not designing the software properly in the first place.
I quite like the rest of the devices features (ie: nice screen, battery life, speed, just right size for book reading and fitting in my coat pocket, etc) and it's quickly becoming a favorite device of mine.
As to those saying thiers works fine, I think they are valid comments. Not all the devices are effected and as is normal with human behavior, those that feel "screwed" are often the ones who are the loudest. Not that they're not justified in being upset with getting a "broken" product, they are.
But it is equally valuable to hear from those that get products that work.
How else are we going to know if there are more bad than good if we don't also hear from "the good"?

JJbdoggg said:
Okay replace and with so, my point still stands.
I also don't see how my analogy would be offensive to someone who knows someone with breast cancer so don't turn it into that, you also don't make the rules so I'll bring it up if I want to.
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You're absolutely right: I don't make the rules and you can bring it up if you want to. I was simply suggesting that life and death disease analogies can always offend Someone and might be a little overboard on an Android forum.
You would need to replace so with and. He was making two separate points and connecting with the word and, while you are expressing cause-effect with so (should be used in conclusion). Though due to ambiguity I could be completely wrong. You brought up logic. I just thought it would be easier for two rational human beings to get to the same spot.
And my G2 screen is wonkier than my Nexus 7. Turning it off and back on seems to solve it though.

Guys, let's not argue about whether what's important to one is also important to you. Everyone has their own opinion. It looks like enough people are upset about the issues, and that is a fact.
I am one of those people. After devs here on XDA put together near perfect AOSP roms for my ThunderBolt, I expected stuff coming out of Google directly to be rock solid. N7 is my first Nexus device, and I am quite disappointed with regular random reboots that I still have, as well as intermittent touch screen issues. For example, I can't play Subway Surfers since N7 keeps ignoring some portion of screen touches (leading me to crash lol).
My HTC DNA, however, is rock solid on the stock rom. Why can't a Nexus device be the same? People typically complain of manufacturers adding stuff to android that makes it worse. Well, I am not so ready to say that now. As far as I am concerned, HTC is doing a better job with their devices than Google.
PS, TB was buggy when it came out, but all the bugs were subsequently fixed, even on Verizon!
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cowisland said:
Guys, let's not argue about whether what's important to one is also important to you. Everyone has their own opinion. It looks like enough people are upset about the issues, and that is a fact.
I am one of those people. After devs here on XDA put together near perfect AOSP roms for my ThunderBolt, I expected stuff coming out of Google directly to be rock solid. N7 is my first Nexus device, and I am quite disappointed with regular random reboots that I still have, as well as intermittent touch screen issues. For example, I can't play Subway Surfers since N7 keeps ignoring some portion of screen touches (leading me to crash lol).
My HTC DNA, however, is rock solid on the stock rom. Why can't a Nexus device be the same? People typically complain of manufacturers adding stuff to android that makes it worse. Well, I am not so ready to say that now. As far as I am concerned, HTC is doing a better job with their devices than Google.
PS, TB was buggy when it came out, but all the bugs were subsequently fixed, even on Verizon!
Sent from my HTC6435LVW using Tapatalk
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Couldn't say it better, let's keep it a happy forum, and just to reflect what you just said, the same thing goes for me with Dead Trigger 2, I can't play it because of this, it's simply NOT fair, after I paid for this device.

Just got the Nexus 6p...Lag Problem?

So i am going to do more testing on this but i just got the Nexus 6p and i use Google Music ALOT! But when i am using it and turn the phone and it rotates...There is a slight lag with the phone and music. This is right out of the box with the most recent OS update and all updates from the app store. No other apps installed other than the stock apps.
Just wanted to see if this is normal with the phone or a problem. I want to stick with this phone but can not live with t his lag problem at all.
Let me know
Thanks!

I'm not too sure about the phone lag you're talking about, but the music lag when you rotate is because of the speaker channels being swapped; when you hold it portrait, the left channel is played on the top speaker, and the right on the bottom. When you rotate is so the top speaker is now on the right side, the phone will rearrange the channels so the music is now correctly playing on the right channels (right on right, left on left), which is why you hear small gap in the music while rotating.

Koragg618 said:
I'm not too sure about the phone lag you're talking about, but the music lag when you rotate is because of the speaker channels being swapped; when you hold it portrait, the left channel is played on the top speaker, and the right on the bottom. When you rotate is so the top speaker is now on the right side, the phone will rearrange the channels so the music is now correctly playing on the right channels (right on right, left on left), which is why you hear small gap in the music while rotating.
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Yeah that sounds about right so it happens to all these phones not just mine good!!! Yeah i called it "lag" because it kind of seemed like it but the way your telling me sounds normal.
Thanks!

There is a general lag too. The keyboard has quirks once in a while.
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borisb said:
There is a general lag too. The keyboard has quirks once in a while.
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General lag? Huh? On stock? Latest version?
This is one of the fastest phones I've ever used. I noticed NO lag whatsoever. Just not sure about some of you guys. I think you just like the word lag. Hey, I want my phone to open an app right away when I'm thinking about opening an app BEFORE I touch the icon. Yeah...that's it.

TheIgster said:
General lag? Huh? On stock? Latest version?
This is one of the fastest phones I've ever used. I noticed NO lag whatsoever. Just not sure about some of you guys. I think you just like the word lag. Hey, I want my phone to open an app right away when I'm thinking about opening an app BEFORE I touch the icon. Yeah...that's it.
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"Lag" is my favorite word! Every time I read it I get off.
That's why I have the Nexus 6p. For the lag and good times.
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TheIgster said:
General lag? Huh? On stock? Latest version?
This is one of the fastest phones I've ever used. I noticed NO lag whatsoever. Just not sure about some of you guys. I think you just like the word lag. Hey, I want my phone to open an app right away when I'm thinking about opening an app BEFORE I touch the icon. Yeah...that's it.
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Why is there always someone like you here? If someone has an issue with your beloved phone, this is how you act? The guy is personally having an issue, it doesn't mean the phone sucks. Give him a break while he tries to fix his issue.
As to the OP, it's probably what has already been said and the slight delay are the speakers switching orientation.

WizeGuyDezignz said:
Why is there always someone like you here? If someone has an issue with your beloved phone, this is how you act? The guy is personally having an issue, it doesn't mean the phone sucks. Give him a break while he tries to fix his issue.
As to the OP, it's probably what has already been said and the slight delay are the speakers switching orientation.
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There is always someone like you as well (with you and @work taking most shifts), it all balances out. He was just giving his expierence.

JoshuaMh said:
There is always someone like you as well (with you and @work taking most shifts), it all balances out. He was just giving his expierence.
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Oh please, he wasn't giving his experience, he was simply being rude and making OP feel bad as if he shouldn't have that issue.

WizeGuyDezignz said:
Oh please, he wasn't giving his experience, he was simply being rude and making OP feel bad as if he shouldn't have that issue.
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LOL...Puuulease. I'm simply stupefied that anyone who has this phone can have a lag. Hence the reason I asked his configuration which he did not report nor did he answer. How do we know what he's running on this "laggy" phone. There are literally a ton of people on this forum and on YouTube and all over the Internet that say this is one of the fastest and most "lag free" phones they have ever used. But some guy posts and says he has a "lag" with no other information and we're all supposed to be OMG...NOT a lag!!!!! We're all gonna' die!!!!!

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LOL...Puuulease. I'm simply stupefied that anyone who has this phone can have a lag. Hence the reason I asked his configuration which he did not report nor did he answer. How do we know what he's running on this "laggy" phone. There are literally a ton of people on this forum and on YouTube and all over the Internet that say this is one of the fastest and most "lag free" phones they have ever used. But some guy posts and says he has a "lag" with no other information and we're all supposed to be OMG...NOT a lag!!!!! We're all gonna' die!!!!!
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Did you even read the OP? He clearly said when it happens and which app he is using when it happens. What exactly is your problem here?

WizeGuyDezignz said:
Did you even read the OP? He clearly said when it happens and which app he is using when it happens. What exactly is your problem here?
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You might want to read my post again and see who I quoted and responded to. It wasn't the OP. Not sure what your problem is? Maybe time to relax a bit there dude.

TheIgster said:
You might want to read my post again and see who I quoted and responded to. It wasn't the OP. Not sure what your problem is? Maybe time to relax a bit there dude.
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Umm, you quoted me! Lmao.
And like I said before, he said which app he was experiencing lag in within his first post. He didn't say the entire phone was laggy.
He also clearly said it was straight out of the box with no other apps installed.
So you either clearly didn't read the OP or you have some serious reading comprehension issues going on.

LlamaLord said:
So i am going to do more testing on this but i just got the Nexus 6p and i use Google Music ALOT! But when i am using it and turn the phone and it rotates...There is a slight lag with the phone and music. This is right out of the box with the most recent OS update and all updates from the app store. No other apps installed other than the stock apps.
Just wanted to see if this is normal with the phone or a problem. I want to stick with this phone but can not live with t his lag problem at all.
Let me know
Thanks!
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Music will pause as the channels switch when rotating 90degrees clockwise
You can change this in build.prop from true to false
ro.audio.monitorRotation=false

WizeGuyDezignz said:
Umm, you quoted me! Lmao.
And like I said before, he said which app he was experiencing lag in within his first post. He didn't say the entire phone was laggy.
He also clearly said it was straight out of the box with no other apps installed.
So you either clearly didn't read the OP or you have some serious reading comprehension issues going on.
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He actually quoted one of the other people in this thread, not the OP, or you, and then you engaged him first by quoting his reply to that person. Either way you both need to quit the squabbling, it makes you both look petty.

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He actually quoted one of the other people in this thread, not the OP, or you, and then you engaged him first by quoting his reply to that person. Either way you both need to quit the squabbling, it makes you both look petty.
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I quoted him on one of his posts and then he quoted me. Either way, I'm over it.

WizeGuyDezignz said:
I quoted him on one of his posts and then he quoted me. Either way, I'm over it.
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My point is you attacked him, telling him he didn't read the OP, and that he has reading comprehension issues, but he was never talking to the OP, he was talking to the person who said he was experiencing general lag when he first responded to this thread, which is when you first engaged him. That's why he told you to check who he quoted. Your entire argument with him here is based on your incorrect assertion that he was taking to the OP. For the record, I don't agree with him at all, every phone has lag at some point, including this one, whether people want to admit it or not.

Heisenberg said:
My point is you attacked him, telling him he didn't read the OP, and that he has reading comprehension issues, but he was never talking to the OP, he was talking to the person who said he was experiencing general lag when he first responded to this thread, which is when you first engaged him. That's why he told you to check who he quoted. Your entire argument with him here is based on your incorrect assertion that he was taking to the OP. For the record, I don't agree with him at all, every phone has lag at some point, including this one, whether people want to admit it or not.
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I appreciate you clarifying. Yes, that;s exactly what happened. It's actually a pretty silly argument. I was merely commenting on a drive by post about a "general" lag with no details. I think that is the person that should have to at least explain themselves and not simply post a drive by.
For the record, I've only had the 6P for about 2 months now, but I have NO lag whatsoever and have a LOT of apps installed. Each to his own I guess.

Heisenberg said:
My point is you attacked him, telling him he didn't read the OP, and that he has reading comprehension issues, but he was never talking to the OP, he was talking to the person who said he was experiencing general lag when he first responded to this thread, which is when you first engaged him. That's why he told you to check who he quoted. Your entire argument with him here is based on your incorrect assertion that he was taking to the OP. For the record, I don't agree with him at all, every phone has lag at some point, including this one, whether people want to admit it or not.
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It's all good bro. It's just a phone and it's just XDA. Neither which are serious. Have a good weekend.

WizeGuyDezignz said:
It's all good bro. It's just a phone and it's just XDA. Neither which are serious. Have a good weekend.
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Seemed pretty serious while you were attacking another member, and until it was pointed out you were wrong. But sure, you too.