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Would i lose root after 2.2 froyo ota update?

Would i lose root after 2.2 froyo ota update on 21st? If so, how do i get back to root? Sorry for newb question.

First u probably won't get the ota cuz u are rooted ......u need to odin back to di18 stock for u to get the update... or wait a lil longer to have one of ur devs. Cook some rom ready for our root phones... personally I won't go back to di18 ... but if our devs told us (which I don't think we need to) to do it.. then ill be happy to do it...
And to get root back from 2.2 do the same method u did fro 2.1
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Is the OP on 2.2? I'm still on DI18, and it has been fine for me. I rooted, but that's it. Would I still get the OTA?

It was my understanding that you could get the OTA update while rooted, as long as it wasn't a custom ROM. Someone chime in?

Way to NOT search people, I mean seriously....
But anyway like the last half a dozen threads asking THIS EXACT SAME QUESTION, you cannot OTA unless you are on a stock rom with the stock recovery, if you don't want to revert then wait less than a day and it will be in flashable .zip form.

You should be able to get the OTA if you're rooted on di18 and still have stock recovery. The update will most likely break your root, though. All you will have to do to get root back is run the one-click.

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yonglee09 said:
Would i lose root after 2.2 froyo ota update on 21st? If so, how do i get back to root? Sorry for newb question.
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worldwidepmp said:
It was my understanding that you could get the OTA update while rooted, as long as it wasn't a custom ROM. Someone chime in?
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Correct you will lose root but will get the update. You have to lose any roms also clockwork I think. Not positive so maybe someone else can comment on that.
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Nevermind.

Question: I used one click root, and it deleted the asphalt demo. Using root explorer, I reinstalled the stock app, but it gave me a notice that asphalt was still in the system apps. I know you need to have all the stock apps when updating, so will I have any problems?
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b3nny said:
Question: I used one click root, and it deleted the asphalt demo. Using root explorer, I reinstalled the stock app, but it gave me a notice that asphalt was still in the system apps. I know you need to have all the stock apps when updating, so will I have any problems?
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Just odin eb13 when it comes.
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Ya, as other users have said, 2.2 is stock so it should ova update but remove your root (was in thesame situation with my mytouch and 2.2). Of course just superoneclick after you update and you're good to go

Thanks for the question and REAL ANSWERS

The Froyo OTA and you what you need to know..

OK I will put this out there for everyone so we don't have a million threads going on this subject.
1 If your on DI18 stock and rooted with a simple root method you will get the OTA, you will lose root.Also having CWM installed will not break the OTA but you will lose CWM due to the stock recovery being flashed.
2 If your on a DI18 rom that you have flashed with CWM you will get the OTA but it will fail due to the rom not being stock the OTA zip will check for this and if your not on the stock rom the OTA will fail to install.
3 If you have a stock rom with any bloatware removed the OTA will also fail to install the OTA zip file will check your system to make sure its stock.
4 If you running a leaked Froyo build like DK28 or DK17 or any rom made from those leaks you will probably not get the OTA notification at all you will have to reflash back to stock DI18 to get the OTA.
The best thing to do if your running a rom is to wait on someone to make a flashable zip to convert from DI18 to EB13 or a zip to flash from a DK28 rom to EB13 it might take a day or two to get it converted but it will happen after all this time waiting for it another day or two shouldn't kill anyone.

I have stock DI18, rooted, and do have CWM installed (but never ever flashed any ROMs at all), will I be able to OTA? Sorry I'm still new at this.

Good idea to post this. I doubt it will prevent the morons from creating new threads though, there are already 3 or 4 scattered about on this board. Should probably throw something in there about being able to d/l it over Wifi as I've seen that one asked a lot recently, too.

Will I still be able to play angry birds?

dannyniceboy said:
Will I still be able to play angry birds?
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No I am afraid this will break angry birds sorry.

adelmundo said:
I have stock DI18, rooted, and do have CWM installed (but never ever flashed any ROMs at all), will I be able to OTA? Sorry I'm still new at this.
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If you have CWM installed it will be overwritten by the stock recovery during the flash.

skeeterslint said:
No I am afraid this will break angry birds sorry.
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nooo, I'm gonna suffer from angry birds withdrawl.
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Never update..... stay on di18. Lol
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nooo, I'm gonna suffer from angry birds withdrawl.
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Whats Froyo?
Sorry, had to do it
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I have stock DI18 with root, but I have deleted some of the sprint bloatware, what does that mean for me as far as OTA update, will I still recieve it or will I have to do a song and dance to get it. Any advice would be helpful

skeeterslint said:
OK I will put this out there for everyone so we don't have a million threads going on this subject.
1 If your on DI18 stock and rooted with a simple root method you will get the OTA, you will lose root.Also having CWM installed will not break the OTA but you will lose CWM due to the stock recovery being flashed.
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So my question is, I have stock DI18 (Odined back from dk28 last night) and rooted using oneclick root with CWM 2.5.whatever(not CWM3). I have read that if you are rooted and want to receive the OTA update you must not have deleted any stock applications. Oneclick root deleted the stupid asphalt 5 game demo and I am wondering if this is considered a stock app that may affect the result of downloading the update.
edit: just saw the post above mine after i finished writing this one!

jspsuperman said:
I have stock DI18 with root, but I have deleted some of the sprint bloatware, what does that mean for me as far as OTA update, will I still recieve it or will I have to do a song and dance to get it. Any advice would be helpful
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Did you read the OP or just read the title and start mashing the keyboard with your face? I can understand missing things in the 1000 page threads, but man it's only one page. Use your good eye!
skeeterslint said:
3 If you have a stock rom with any bloatware removed the OTA will also fail to install the OTA zip file will check your system to make sure its stock.
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djbacon06 said:
So my question is, I have stock DI18 (Odined back from dk28 last night) and rooted using oneclick root with CWM 2.5.whatever(not CWM3). I have read that if you are rooted and want to receive the OTA update you must not have deleted any stock applications. Oneclick root deleted the stupid asphalt 5 game demo and I am wondering if this is considered a stock app that may affect the result of downloading the update.
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+1 ^^^
Seems to be a conflict of criteria...is asphalt demo not considered a "stock" app? If it is, then by the OPs criteria even havin root would break the OTA since one-click removes asphalt...
A little clarification please?
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I think the main point is everyone should just wait until a cooked up rom is released....who cares if you get the OTA? Ultimately, aren't you just going to put a custom rom/kernel on your phone anyway?
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Demianwulf said:
I think the main point is everyone should just wait until a cooked up rom is released....who cares if you get the OTA? Ultimately, aren't you just going to put a custom rom/kernel on your phone anyway?
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I'm gonna say this one more time. SOME of us just want to have the littlest, simple satisfaction of receiving the cool little feature of an Over-The-Air upgrade. Because really, how many times does it happen? Its like I want to go outside when there's a comet passing by. Yes, I could just pop in a DVD about comets with nice high-def imagery and commentary by Morgan Freeman, but I didn't actlly DO it.
So do not deny nor judge this opportunity for us. If you cant , then don't post here. The thread isn't titled "why the hell would you retards do an ota just wait for some warezzzzzzzzz! Lolzzzzzzzz!" So contribute if you can, otherwise don't.
Plus....SOME of us have been on a 2006 winmo powered brick for the past 5 years and we got to miss out on this fancy little thing called a firmware upgrade...over the air! OVER THE AIR!
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What should someone do to prepare for the OTA
Well as someone said above, not every one has gone through a OTA update (I came to the EPIC from a true PALM when the software was really worth something) and some guidance may keep us from having major problems.
The only thing I could think of was to backup my EPIC. I used MyBackup Pro and backup to both my card and online. Anything else I should do????
George

Thanks for the detailed informed post. We need more like them.

I figure this is the best place to ask this.
I am stock and rooted with one click. I am not running any custom roms. Will there be a stock/rooted release that I can dl from this site or am I going to need to odin back to complete stock and take the OTA update. The majority of what I have been reading is to let your rom maker create a new one. Since I don't want a custom Rom yet, will I be able to get the stock/rooted update.
Thanks!

bgreiwe said:
I figure this is the best place to ask this.
I am stock and rooted with one click. I am not running any custom roms. Will there be a stock/rooted release that I can dl from this site or am I going to need to odin back to complete stock and take the OTA update. The majority of what I have been reading is to let your rom maker create a new one. Since I don't want a custom Rom yet, will I be able to get the stock/rooted update.
Thanks!
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After the OTA starts going out there will be one up on this site pre-rooted and complete stock within like 5 hours.

Awesome... that waswhat I wanted to hear. I will try out roms eventually butwant to see stock first.

Bloatware

Sorry if this has been discussed. I used unrevoked to get super user access to my incredible and now want to delete that stupid slacker radio, vcast, and VZW navigator crap. Do I have to install a rom? I like sense and don't like messing too much with the phone. I have been running stock software on it for almost a year and only just now rooted using unervoked to install a screenshot app. I hate those bloatware apps with a passion but have put up with them ... now that I have root access I can't uninstall using the normal means. Is there a workaround to get rid of them without installing a rom?

Chris1051 said:
Sorry if this has been discussed. I used unrevoked to get super user access to my incredible and now want to delete that stupid slacker radio, vcast, and VZW navigator crap. Do I have to install a rom? I like sense and don't like messing too much with the phone. I have been running stock software on it for almost a year and only just now rooted using unervoked to install a screenshot app. I hate those bloatware apps with a passion but have put up with them ... now that I have root access I can't uninstall using the normal means. Is there a workaround to get rid of them without installing a rom?
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You can install custom ROMs that basically mirror the stock ROM but it has bloatware removed. Just look carefully.

The sticky at the top of the forum links to a lot of FAQ's like this one
In particular:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Incredible/Guides&Tutorials#Removing_Bloat
Even easier, you can use Titanium Backup to do it. Or Root Explorer. Or pretty much any app that can write to the system partition with SU access.

Oh and sorry I am using tapatalk and couldn't find the search feature to reply in thread about bloatware. Accept my apology.

Or, if you don't mind wiping. You can install Nothing Special.
Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=976933
It's a stock rom with bloat already removed.

BrettApple said:
Or, if you don't mind wiping. You can install Nothing Special.
Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=976933
It's a stock rom with bloat already removed.
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This is the easiest way IMHO.
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Ok. So if I flash will I get VZW OTA if they push it out of 2.3? ... since I rooted using unrevoked, but if I don't flash will I get the OTA to 2.3?
Guess I'm just worried ill brick it. This thing is my pride and joy and if I broke it I would cry.

Chris1051 said:
Ok. So if I flash will I get VZW OTA if they push it out of 2.3? ... since I rooted using unrevoked, but if I don't flash will I get the OTA to 2.3?
Guess I'm just worried ill brick it. This thing is my pride and joy and if I broke it I would cry.
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It's almost impossible to brick, it's become so easy to flash roms, root, etc.

Just factory reset if you want to go back. Kinda the point of flashing is to get the latest greatest before it is released. Oh, all all those goodies I am sure they will omit.
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Chris1051 said:
Ok. So if I flash will I get VZW OTA if they push it out of 2.3? ... since I rooted using unrevoked, but if I don't flash will I get the OTA to 2.3?
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The devs here are beating the piss out of VZW OTA's. Just flash a custom 2.3 ROM.
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PC10img.zip from Tmobile store sd card

Here is the pc10img.zip file that is available from T-Mobile stores. Make sure your phone is fully charged before you attempt to install it, the demo I installed it on would not install unless the battery was 100%.
https://rapidshare.com/files/3796067356/PC10IMG.zip

Great, thank you! Not looking forward to reinstalling all my apps but downgrading again from 2.3.3 would have been a lengthy process as well.
I guess I know what I'll be doing tonight...
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So does this mean a dev can finally tear this apart and give us some debloated roms with goodies added. Been trying to be patient
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xsteven77x said:
So does this mean a dev can finally tear this apart and give us some debloated roms with goodies added. Been trying to be patient
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I hold out hope that someone can unpack and build a rooted flash out of this. Otherwise, it's going to be just like the leak in that once you flash it you're left sitting around waiting for someone to do something...anything with it.
Mad props to the OP for putting this up. This should definitely get a ball rolling since we now have the FULL PC10IMG ROM flash version of the newest build/GB available for the G2.
Interesting too - the newest stuff (tp's) in that archive are 7/29/2011 - soooo fresh

Thanks for uploading this file. I updated my G2 last week. Kinda odd the update zip I used was only 73.1 MB and this one is 131.MB almost doubled. What is the differance between the two files. It seemed to update just fine from 2.2 to 2.3.4. Everything is running just smooth. Unless there are files and apps that I might be missing. I might give this a try again. Currently running 2.3.4 unrooted with S-ON. Still waiting for someone who can fully root the OTA 2.3.4 with S-OFF. Anyone know about the update zip that was leaked last week? Should I flash this one instead or keep what I have?

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I hold out hope that someone can unpack and build a rooted flash out of this. Otherwise, it's going to be just like the leak in that once you flash it you're left sitting around waiting for someone to do something...anything with it.
Mad props to the OP for putting this up. This should definitely get a ball rolling since we now have the FULL PC10IMG ROM flash version of the newest build/GB available for the G2.
Interesting too - the newest stuff (tp's) in that archive are 7/29/2011 - soooo fresh
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We already got a rooted flash of this we need it tweaked up with someone who knows what there doing. Seems we have little development for our phones anymore so I'm not holding out that it will be soon.
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Kilroy672 said:
Thanks for uploading this file. I updated my G2 last week. Kinda odd the update zip I used was only 73.1 MB and this one is 131.MB almost doubled. What is the differance between the two files. It seemed to update just fine from 2.2 to 2.3.4. Everything is running just smooth. Unless there are files and apps that I might be missing. I might give this a try again. Currently running 2.3.4 unrooted with S-ON. Still waiting for someone who can fully root the OTA 2.3.4 with S-OFF. Anyone know about the update zip that was leaked last week? Should I flash this one instead or keep what I have?
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The update.zip is an update from 2.2 to 2.3.4. This PC10IMG.zip is the whole operating system. You can be on the first OS that shipped with the phone (2.2 but before wifi calling) and still use this file. To use the update.zip, you must be running the update that included wifi calling.
PC10IMG.zip will factory reset your phone.

Just like blink said, this is the full system image, the update essentially just includes the updated code not the entire image.
My hope is that this will help the developers intigrate this into their roms.

xsteven77x said:
We already got a rooted flash of this we need it tweaked up with someone who knows what there doing. Seems we have little development for our phones anymore so I'm not holding out that it will be soon.
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lulwot? This is THE first I've seen of the PC10IMG - full ROM from the T-Mobile store sdcard update. If there is a rooted flash of this please provide the link. Like yesterday! ROFL
Otherwise, all we have or have had is a rooted franken-build flashable mashup of the OTA and whatever other stuff.
Like I said, if you got a link to the full rooted flash of THIS rom, I'm all ears
Again - huge props to @atlp99 who made good saying he would bring the in-store copy ASAP. Well done!
PS - @atlp99 I saw your thread and it looks like they deleted it. Regrettably unless your posting CM7 crap or some variation of that or some Sense rom, they seem to delete new threads.
@RM, question, why not just delete the Vision stuff off xda? Or, alternatively quit deleting **** you pinhead.

Mirror!
Does anybody have a mirror download for this? I cant seem to download it from radidshare

zkid2010 said:
Like I said, if you got a link to the full rooted flash of THIS rom, I'm all ears
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I made a rooted version of the stock ROM. Right now I'm testing it, should be up in 20 minutes

rr5678 said:
I made a rooted version of the stock ROM. Right now I'm testing it, should be up in 20 minutes
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Cool can't wait. What rooted version of what stock rom are you talking about? The PC10img.zip that we are talking about here ( I hope so) or the stock 2.2?

Kilroy672 said:
Cool can't wait. What rooted version of what stock rom are you talking about? The PC10img.zip that we are talking about here ( I hope so) or the stock 2.2?
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Yep, the PC10IMG. (2.3.4)

rr5678 said:
Yep, the PC10IMG. (2.3.4)
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Cool, please keep us updated if this is a working rooted rom. + 1 for you

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Cool, please keep us updated if this is a working rooted rom. + 1 for you
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=16503984#post16503984
there it is

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Sorry im a newbie..do i just rename the file PC10IMG.ZIP and put it on my sd card, boot up into the bootloader and go from there? I did that with the earlier PC10IMG.ZIP 2.3.4 that was posted on this thread..can it override that??

IllBill said:
Sorry im a newbie..do i just rename the file PC10IMG.ZIP and put it on my sd card, boot up into the bootloader and go from there? I did that with the earlier PC10IMG.ZIP 2.3.4 that was posted on this thread..can it override that??
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No no, what this is is a stock 2.3.4 image created from the PC10IMG that will not overwrite hboot, will not kick you back to stock recovery, will not update your radio and is rooted.
Just flash it with CWM.

just wanted to say this worked to upgrade the leaked 2.3.3 to 2.3.4 . you lose your apps but that's not a big deal

thanks!!! i had the leaked 2.3.3 and was gonna go through the painful process of downgrading then upgrading to 2.3.4
but this file saved all that work! wuhu!

What is the diff between 2.3.3 and 2.3.4?
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[GUIDE] How to prepare for ICS upgrade for root users

Look at the following description and choose the right one.
(1) Flash back to stock rom and stock recovery via easy unroot.
(2) Re-root via nachoroot
(3) Install OTA rootkeeper.
(4) Wait for ICS. Call in sick everyday if you have to. Keep mashing the check for update button.

That seems like a lot of pain when the devs are certain to adopt the ICS Asus rom as base to their custom roms.
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Is there a reason for flashing back to stock and rerooting rather than just using OTA Rootkeeper?

st0nedpenguin said:
Is there a reason for flashing back to stock and rerooting rather than just using OTA Rootkeeper?
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Because if you rooted via nvflash then you won't be able to do an OTA update even if you have ota rootkeeper. Trust me, I've already tried it all.

Hi
I'm on revolver rom, I'm not root with nvflash but razorclaw ( sbkv2 )
I do make your tutorial or I can install OTA Rootkeeper on revolver rom ?
Thanks
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billouetaudrey said:
Hi
I'm on revolver rom, I'm not root with nvflash but razorclaw ( sbkv2 )
I do make your tutorial or I can install OTA Rootkeeper on revolver rom ?
Thanks
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I have an SBKv2 transformer and I followed this guide, which worked fine:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1438433

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I have an SBKv2 transformer and I followed this guide, which worked fine:
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Thanks but I don't understand why return on Stock rom? Maybe developer update revolver rom to ICS ?
Sorry for my english...
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billouetaudrey said:
Thanks but I don't understand why return on Stock rom? Maybe developer update revolver rom to ICS ?
Sorry for my english...
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Well sure. That might be. But that will take time.
Some people want the ICS update the very second it is out. Reverting to stock allows them to get it the second it is out without waiting for ROM developers to update and retweak their ROMs for a new major Android-version, a process which most likely will take some time.
Besides. I like to know how the stock experience is before going for something different. If stock is good enough, I see no reason to rely on custom ROMs.

josteink said:
Well sure. That might be. But that will take time.
Some people want the ICS update the very second it is out. Reverting to stock allows them to get it the second it is out without waiting for ROM developers to update and retweak their ROMs for a new major Android-version, a process which most likely will take some time.
Besides. I like to know how the stock experience is before going for something different. If stock is good enough, I see no reason to rely on custom ROMs.
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It should take only an hour or two to push out a rooted build. Will probably actually get it before being the ota build.
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billouetaudrey said:
Thanks but I don't understand why return on Stock rom? Maybe developer update revolver rom to ICS ?
Sorry for my english...
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OTA update will not work if you're on a custom ROM or have CWM recovery.
Stock but rooted ROM is OK

baseballfanz said:
OTA update will not work if you're on a custom ROM or have CWM recovery.
Stock but rooted ROM is OK
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I've heard CWM shouldn't prevent an OTA update from going through. From someone in this forum. Referring personal experience.
That said, I agree about custom firmwares.
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josteink said:
I've heard CWM shouldn't prevent an OTA update from going through. From someone in this forum. Referring personal experience.
That said, I agree about custom firmwares.
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I'm confused as to why anyone would say that. OTA updates from asus are implimented through the stock recovery.

goodintentions said:
I'm confused as to why anyone would say that. OTA updates from asus are implimented through the stock recovery.
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They say the dled ota zip can be handled and installed fine through cwm. I don't know, just repeating what I've heard.
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josteink said:
They say the dled ota zip can be handled and installed fine through cwm. I don't know, just repeating what I've heard.
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The OTA update will not automatically install if CWM is installed like it is the case on a completely stock TF.
Therefore some people adjust the OTA update (remove recovery and add root) and publish this so you can install this with CWM. See developer forum.
The original OTA update also include recovery update (where CWM is installed) and remove root. You can use OTA rootkeeper to avoid loosing root.
Summary:
- root with stock rom and stock recovery will allow OTA update from Asus but you loose root; use OTA rootkeeper to avoid loosing root
- root with stock rom and CWM recovery will not allow OTA update from Asus; use adjusted OTA update and install with CWM (keeps root and CWM)
- custom rom, then no OTA update possible; just wait for update of developer custom rom

josteink said:
Well sure. That might be. But that will take time.
Some people want the ICS update the very second it is out. Reverting to stock allows them to get it the second it is out without waiting for ROM developers to update and retweak their ROMs for a new major Android-version, a process which most likely will take some time.
Besides. I like to know how the stock experience is before going for something different. If stock is good enough, I see no reason to rely on custom ROMs.
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Ok I undertand, so I'm not this people
I prefer wait I'm very patient
Thanks you
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billouetaudrey said:
Ok I undertand, so I'm not this people
I prefer wait I'm very patient
Thanks you
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Well, stock has gone a long way from back in May. Back then, I went with custom roms because they were more stable and smoother to work with. Recently, I flashed back to stock and have been using it daily. Could not tell the difference between stock and custom rom anymore. Asus, or google, has done a good job at stabilizing and improving the original stock rom.
When ICS comes out, I will at first use stock. Then I will try out custom ICS roms. I'll evaluate them on a regular day to day usage. I don't care much for all the tests that people do. I'm a realistic guy. I believe in reality.

josteink said:
Besides. I like to know how the stock experience is before going for something different. If stock is good enough, I see no reason to rely on custom ROMs.
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Sorry that just made me laugh. A stock rom being good enough would mean no need for custom roms and so far, not one single device has had one. Not even vanilla rom's from Google themselves.

why go to all this hassle,when its out the devs will release a stock rom that doesnt remove root, then with in about 24/48 hrs dev tweaked roms will appear
SENT FROM MY TRANSFORMER and its on KRAKD

Is there a reason for superuser being preinstalled in this repacked WW rom? Kind of defeats the purpose of "stock" doesnt it?

combat goofwing said:
why go to all this hassle,when its out the devs will release a stock rom that doesnt remove root, then with in about 24/48 hrs dev tweaked roms will appear
SENT FROM MY TRANSFORMER and its on KRAKD
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Is that all it'll take is a day or two for a CWM flashable Ice Cream Sammach rom to pop out?