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make DEVelopment Not War

Now that developing for our Acer Iconia is going like a fast train.
Pls DEVelopers work togheter and don t fight each other here at XDA we have to work togheter and make all off us users happy to use they great modifications you the allready known, Half gods, give us.
But don t fight please in the world around us there is place enough for all developing people do it doesn t matter if one or the other has made the basic stone to start building from.
I love the work and skills of you all.
I hope that we can keep this forum of ACER Iconia peacefull
sincerely PiXiEjOe:

+1 to that!!

+100 i would say

+1000 who's next D:

+ 999,999,999,999,999,999,999

+ infinity

+ (n+1)
'n' being the highest number posted on this thread....(countable or not)...
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i am glad that you people think te same way i do so thanks to you all.
keep up the good colaborating spirit

I have no skills at all for dev, so I rely on them and praise them for the amazing work they do. Please....I will beg....don't any of you go away. I will be lost. Thanks.
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apl I can say is BONG +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 1

While I think that devs should all work together towards a common goal, I also think that people should understand what ExAcTlY is going on before making their decisions...
It should also be noted that concealing/altering and stealing work is a DISGRACE and against what XDA is all about (and sometimes illegal...)
This post sums up Perfectly what the deal is:
birkoffsjunk said:
Now I can't speak for m-deejay, or anyone else for that matter however... Thor is distributing a Kernel without releasing the source which is both a breach of the GPL license & XDA rules not to mention illegal. Now as MDJ has released his code under the GPL he is well within his right as one of the rights holders to tell Thor to cease and desist.
I can't say if anyone else reported the GPL violations, but I can say what I did.
I reported Thor for breach of the GPL (twice regarding his signature)
I reported vache for breach of the GPL (twice for bundling a Kernel without source)
I also reported another post for breach of the GPL (for providing a link to Thor's Kernel)​I give full permission to any moderator to come and verify I did do the above. I believe XDA moderators were acting on those reports by me and no one else.
Why did I report the Kernel? Because of repeated requests which were either ignored, spammed and/or laughed off.
Given what I have said above, you do realise you have accused a great ROM developer of multiple devices of doing something he probably didn't? An apology to MDJ sounds like in order
Just wanted to add I will not partake in any further discussion in regards to the above.
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There is no place like home. There is no place like home........
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grhand82 said:
apl I can say is BONG +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 1
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HAHA I LOL'd!!!

No war but peace and development

we cannot understand what goes behind scenes for these developers apperantly they have issues with each other but I respect them so much, I appreciate the hard work they do no other developer wants to even conside doing developing on the iconia before they broke into the locked boot loader. So please developers (not mentioning names) lets continue with the great work you guys made the A500 an envy withing my friends when 6 months ago they thought xoom, Asus tf were the better choice.

Thanks to everybody

Just stumbled on to this and it is so funny. There will always be a bit on a competitive edge in these forums. Back in x1 forum it was all out war for donations, views and downloads. It may be a bit daunting to others chefs when they are all working on making Acer base better we have mdj releasing all kinda ports. Good for us I admit but maybe a bit daunting for others. I would like to see a few different takes on the ports we have right now as to me Acer base has been taken as far as it can go. It be nice to see a fusion rom with the best bits of galaxy, thrive, xoom etc thrown in. Will the devs come together and do that? Maybe not but its still a thought
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so what we got from this war?NOTHING.....now this iconia forum look like nothing activity and dead

abditerex said:
so what we got from this war?NOTHING.....now this iconia forum look like nothing activity and dead
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Ae you reading the same forum as the rest of us? We have root for every version, a unlocked bootloader, more roms then you can throw a stick at - and new posts every day.

+1 too. No need to enter thousand to agree.

How to optimize our brain power or how to produce the ultimate ROM?

Yes, there is a direct link between the two subjects in my discussion title.
The number of ROM’s released in this forum is about 14 (more or less).
All these bring the number of developer that released these ROM’S plus all the developers involved direct & indirect in the developing process to approx. to 20 or 25 maybe more…
Just imagining channeling all that power into one single product that will answer most if not all the user expectations on the ultimate ROM!
I am aware that it’s not easy to get consensus from all the users or even the developers for what is the ONE ROM that pleases the majority, but maybe be we should try harder to overcome these differences.
The user’s opinion we can get through a popularity poll, what features and functionality they like to see in a ROM.
To gather the developers is probably a much harder task but it is feasible to bring not all but a large number of them to the “table”.
I would like to have the forum member’s opinion on the subject and how to make this idea reality.

I posted this topic by error in the development section, can the moderator transfer it to Galaxy 3 General ?
Sorry & thanks - Itzik

great idea

How to optimize our brain power or how to produce the ultimate ROM? 2nd part
I feel the developers (or would be developers) needs, and I know that it’s a personal challenge to release a good ROM and to get the approval of his peers and users.
However, for most of the users it’s a nightmare, moving from one ROM to another, updates, kernels & themes...etc.
For every single ROM that I have installed to date something went wrong, don’t get me wrong I really believe that our group of developers is the most qualified, dedicated & smart individuals, nevertheless, we the users/ installers are going sometime through a grueling try & error process.
Today, I am on rooted stock JPQ without a single issue, but, I still love to have some of the capabilities & functions of our Galaxies S, S II big brothers & more..
The only way to achieve stability, optimize functionality & to go places where no phones got before; is unity!
And with the combine power of our developers there more chance that we will go places…

In my opinion:
It would be really nice if the following developers works together to bring an ultimate ROM (Obviously not Froyo base) which can take the user experience of G3 to a new level. I know they all are capable and do wonder if they get together. Surely they will have to forget the differences among them if there are any
1. Marcellusbe
2. Dharamg3
3. rudolf895
4. kyrillos13
5. apollo5801
6. The Dark Lestat
7. FadeFx
8. akash.gpta
9. mumbozver
10. Please add ur name if u think u can do wonder

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In my opinion:
1. Marcellusbe
2. Dharamg3
3. rudolf895
4. kyrillos13
5. apollo5801
6. The Dark Lestat
7. FadeFx
8. akash.gpta
9. mumbozver
10. Please add ur name if u think u can do wonder
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That s a frigging awesome list.

I hope this will be reality someday....but i think is only a good dream(
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I hope this will be reality someday....but i think is only a good dream
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Years back we dreamed getting to the moon...and!?

itzik_man said:
Years back we dreamed getting to the moon...and!?
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Months back we dreamed of getting Gingerbread. And now??
We are getting it.

Imagine Marcellusbe, Dharamg3 and Apollo all making one kernel and all the others making the themes/Roms that would be awesome and based on Gingerbread
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I am waiting for the first developer among those 9 to confirm that he is also interested for this good cause.
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brjshshrma said:
In my opinion:
It would be really nice if the following developers works together to bring an ultimate ROM (Obviously not Froyo base) which can take the user experience of G3 to a new level. I know they all are capable and do wonder if they get together. Surely they will have to forget the differences among them if there are any
1. Marcellusbe
2. Dharamg3
3. rudolf895
4. kyrillos13
5. apollo5801
6. The Dark Lestat
7. FadeFx
8. akash.gpta
9. mumbozver
10. Please add ur name if u think u can do wonder
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I can make a Theme

How to optimize our brain power or how to produce the ultimate ROM? 3th & last part
This is not a revolution, but we the users/installers, need to wake up and tell our developers:
We love your work, respect you effort and above all applaud your contribution, however, this forum should not become a battle ground for who produces the best ROM, it should be about; combined strategy to minimizing our frustrations by delivering the best possible solution.
Moreover, the appreciation of the users will definitely generate (my opinion) extra donations for the developer’s effort.
Rafayel, great initiative…

I can see all the issues i have/would have, already disappearing....:d

I dont really see this happening, cause I dont see a rom that can unite developers. A CM/GB port could have done that when there was no such thing going on, since it would be a great leap, but after that is done I dont see anything important/great/whatever enough to unite them under one project. A different kind of unity is more important, and which is already happening.
The unity I'm talking about is not a unity under one project, but a unity as a community, as a group of people. This is already happening. Developers should have understanding and respect for each other, should help and guide each other. Sharing what they have accomplished with each other would not provide us with one ultimate rom, but with many! Everything that is being done should be collaborative, not just one rom.
I'll stop now (since I'm pretty hungry and so I am having trouble conveying my thoughts properly), but I'll just say that I'm not trying to tell devs what to do, nor am I saying that stuff like this isn't happening(it is), I just want to express what I think would be ideal.

Good idea but you know some have already tried this... Yes, im talking about armv project they started out great but look what happened its now dead. Im not saying this is impossible but think bout it, its very hard for everyone :/ i mean we each have our own projects. (i.e marcellusbes cm7) and i dont think it would work Its hard to control a group of (10-15) devs i mean if there is no boss then its very hard to try to communicate and if there is a boss then some people would complain cuz they dont want any boss/leader. Also there is a risk of someone leaking info/tweaks/mods in such a big group. I myself think this will not happen but if it will, im happy
this is all MY OPINION
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I dont think anybody will have a complain if marcellusbe heads the group coz all the developers and the entire G3 community respects him a lot.
If any senior developer takes the initiative then this might become a possible thing happening.
*Thanks to clarkkov who originally thought this and expressed the idea in Indroid thread.

stubborn_d0nkey - If, and only if this idea (brjshshrma - I never claimed this as my original idea!) can not materialized, yes, more discussion & synchronization has to take place between the developers (will save allot of try & error of implementations).
Just an example: I read very recent, an exchange of posts between 2 dev's that bought were using the same theme…

itzik_man said:
stubborn_d0nkey - If, and only if this idea (brjshshrma - I never claimed this as my original idea!) can not materialized, yes, more discussion & synchronization has to take place between the developers (will save allot of try & error of implementations).
Just an example: I read very recent, an exchange of posts between 2 dev's that bought were using the same theme…
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Marcellusbe sir posted http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=15948716&postcount=409
He says he likes to work alone!!

{KERNEL - DEV} (Open Source Kernel) XpLoDWilD's PopAds Kernel- NOTE IS BACK!(30.4.12)

XpLoDWilD's PopAds Kernel for Galaxy Note
Updated 30.4.12
Dev XplodWild got his note back just a few minutes back, expect CM9 experimental builds soon ..
also, awesome custom open source kernel for note goodness !!!
xplodwild twitter update: https://twitter.com/#!/xplodwild
Updated 25.4.12
Xplodwild is receiving his galaxy note this weekend, and will resume dev for the kernel and CM9 soon!
Updated 22.4.12
Team Hacksung Progress : Xplodwild & Entropy
As per Entropy:
Video hwaccel - working
GPS - Working, although GLONASS is either not being used or just reporting as not locked even though it is. Samsung's sat status interface in ICS is mangled, I need to bring gpswrapper over to this device to see what the deal is.
Stylus - Working with apps like Quill that support the standard Android 4.0 stylus API. (Haven't really tested anything else, but I know S-Pen API apps will not work and it's going to stay that way.)
Camera - untested, probably not working, I tried to implement Torch and it did not play well
Updated 21.4.12
stage 1 complete.
stage 2 complete - device ordered. project is ON!!
stage 3 complete - device has arrived already! Dev XplodWild is beginning with his kernel project on the device.
*** News - As xplodwild is waiting for his device to come back after repair... the amazing entropy is progressing with the kernel project based on xplodwilds work ... please read the last few pages of the thread for detailed updates !
Dear Friends,
I was in touch with my dear friend developer @xplodwild who is an integral dev member at TeamHacksung who are developing CM9 for the Galaxy series.
Xplodwild has been developing an open source kernel for the galaxy s2, and he would like to develop an open source kernel for the Galaxy Note as well now. Since the hardware is pretty similar except for certain changes, this can be achieveable quite fast.
So, what are the benefits of an open source kernel for the Galaxy Note?
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- Up-to-date forever kernel : Up-to-date forever kernel : The Kernel shall remain up to date forever, even after samsung or google come out with android 5.0+, and even when kernel will reach version 3.4.0
There is no need to wait for wait or beg samsung to release their sources. After all android and our community is all about sharing and developing with each other.
- Community supported : The project will be open source and community supported, so we can take this is another level really.
- The advantage of having "Updated drivers" - Once we have open source updated kernels and drivers, the developers can continuously work on new roms, ports and developments. and Don't have to wait for ics or other leaks from the company itself. Usually the ports don't have something or the other working (like camera, usb etc.) because the kernel sources or drivers are not available. Once we have this project running soon, we will never see an issue with future android builds or ports etc.
- Ability to do Mods
- Maybe samsung will never release sources or will release very late for each release. We don't need to be dependent on them
How to make this project Happen? Its pretty simple, we all are making it happen
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I would like to Thank "PopAds" and the community for supporting and making this happen. We have in a record time (less than 24 hours) collected enough to buy a note for the development, and now we head towards the 2nd stage.
Thank you!!
How much time this will take to develop?
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Since, SGS2 and Note are similar so it should take some days to have it running, then it'll follow the same progress as GS2.
Check out xplodwild's sgs2 thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=23462307 , you can see how he is making significant progress everyday and its coming to stable use very soon!
The open source kernels can be used on AOSP / Samsung Roms (with slight mods) / and CM9 based roms, for Android 4.0 +
Lets create our own community based, community driven samsung open source development program.

Progress
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Steps : Pending - In progress - Done
Grab enough money to get the device
Order the device
Waiting for the device to be shipped <== It arrived already but I'll get my hands on it only on Saturday.
Start my kernel on the device
Money status
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Thanks to tomksoft/PopAds.net and all the donation of the people in this thread, the device is paid
Kernel status
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What works on the Galaxy S II version of the Kernel :
Linux kernel version 3.0.24
It boots (so all the low level stuff is done)
Touchscreen
Battery gauge
NOTE: As official SGS2 sources are available, I'll try to port them firsthand to the Note.
Keep in touch about it there: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=23462307#post23462307
I'll tell you how it goes for the Note when I get the device

I'm game. Donation on its way once I can work out how to use PayPain again
And all they are asking is enough to buy the Note? That's dedication!

thanks a lot androiindian...i have seen your PM...i dont hesitate to donate for the project...but i dont use credit cards...so please let me know , how i can contribute to this project...i can afford up to Rs.5000/-(INR)...send me a PM, with the bank details, then i will transfer the funds for you...

Yay! Defeated the PayPain web site and managed to make a donation.
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jeromepearce said:
I'm game. Donation on its way once I can work out how to use PayPain again
And all they are asking is enough to buy the Note? That's dedication!
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Cheers mate! Absolutely. I think if we all contribute, we can pave a fantastic way ahead for our phones and make development even more amazing.
Just because sammy never releases its sources so fast, or we have to be dependent on leaks all the time, which always leads to this or that not working...
we can now create ways to make the development for our phones instant and bring in so many possibilities

jeromepearce said:
Yay! Defeated the PayPain web site and managed to make a donation.
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wow, thank you so much my friend! we are going to have your contibution shown on the 2nd post here! Thanks a lot mate. im contributing as well! Thank you!

grgsiocl said:
thanks a lot androiindian...i have seen your PM...i dont hesitate to donate for the project...but i dont use credit cards...so please let me know , how i can contribute to this project...i can afford up to Rs.5000/-(INR)...send me a PM, with the bank details, then i will transfer the funds for you...
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Great bro, will paypal your money to xplodwild , along with my contribution. thank you so much!

Assuming you got the money today for the kernel how many time?
I think samsung realease one earlier than you.
I think is more beautiful first you realease kernel and after ask for money.
Naturaly this is a personal position.
Good work
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fards said:
when we have a kernel drop from samsung for the 3.1 kernel there will be a lot of effort put into the kernel..
buying someone a note isn't the way to go about it..
I see no evidence that there's any 3.1 kernel source working properly for the sgs2, I understand they are waiting for a source drop the same as us, so why do you think this guy will get a kernel running for us, when he hasn't for them?
I was going to start working on a 3.1 kernel some time ago, but its going to be quicker to wait for the source, as porting kernels up major revisions can take quite a while.
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Just putting this out here for Fards

mardos said:
Just putting this out here for Fards
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Same as I replied there:
I can tell you myself that I got my 3.0.12 kernel running on my Galaxy S2. So far it boots, touchscreen and charger works (knowing I've been only working a week on it). I even got a 3.3 branch where I got screen working, but MALI drivers are fuct in the RC hence I couldn't get it to boot yet. But it's possible somewhat in the near future.
Knowing that, having a working opensource kernel that people understand will help having up-to-date kernel for the future. Galaxy S II users are more than happy to get it, and they're more than happy to know that they'll be able to get BLN, Voodoo sound and many other stuff and tweaks available largely before Samsung will drop the sources.
ICS leaks being delayed more and more every day, you can't be sure when they will drop the sources.
All in all, all I have to say is that it's booting. Here's an old video where screen works, but no touchscreen yet: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_hhM411lHc&list=UUBMGKNICl0MqId2JPEPsTug&index=1&feature=plcp
Since, as I said, I got a couple things more. Check that on my github: http://github.com/xplodwild/android_device_samsung_galaxys2
gattari said:
I think is more beautiful first you realease kernel and after ask for money.
Naturaly this is a personal position.
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I'm not here for the money. If I could do it without, I'd do, but I don't have a Galaxy Note hence I can't test yet.

@XpLoDWilD
I have elsewhere given my opinion to your path.
Maybe I can help you.
Pls try to contact winbug.
Lately, he has given some developers a note for free.
I cant write for him. Pls contact him.

XpLoDWilD said:
I'm not here for the money. If I could do it without, I'd do, but I don't have a Galaxy Note hence I can't test yet.
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Agree 100%
You are willing to put the effort into this. It may be good, it may not. I am willing to see it through. No software development project I have ever done has been certain. I have spent many hundreds of hours, and sometimes thousands of dollars employing others, on projects that may or may not work. Some paid off, and I keep going on the strength of that.
This is not even a commercial venture! I would not expect someone to buy a Note on the off-chance that the project will gain enough support to get that cash back. If you want a commercial product you pay on results. For an open source 'gift' to the community, I am more than willing to support an valiant effort to give us a kernel we can all benefit from. The Samsung one is just pants.
Just discussing with may very good friend (and son) here, and this type of community-funded effort just was not possible twenty years ago. I love the fact that it is now, and am more than willing to take a small chance on it!
Sorry, rambling a bit, but the bottle of wine is getting low.....
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... oh, and "Vive la revolution!"

gattari said:
Assuming you got the money today for the kernel how many time?
I think samsung realease one earlier than you.
I think is more beautiful first you realease kernel and after ask for money.
Naturaly this is a personal position.
Good work
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Well I made my donation anyway
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jeromepearce said:
Agree 100%
You are willing to put the effort into this. It may be good, it may not. I am willing to see it through. No software development project I have ever done has been certain. I have spent many hundreds of hours, and sometimes thousands of dollars employing others, on projects that may or may not work. Some paid off, and I keep going on the strength of that.
This is not even a commercial venture! I would not expect someone to buy a Note on the off-chance that the project will gain enough support to get that cash back. If you want a commercial product you pay on results. For an open source 'gift' to the community, I am more than willing to support an valiant effort to give us a kernel we can all benefit from. The Samsung one is just pants.
Just discussing with may very good friend (and son) here, and this type of community-funded effort just was not possible twenty years ago. I love the fact that it is now, and am more than willing to take a small chance on it!
Sorry, rambling a bit, but the bottle of wine is getting low.....
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... oh, and "Vive la revolution!"
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so true my friend. but this will work! 100% xplodwild has within a week made insane progress with the sgs2 kernel and for the note he will do it as well, this will make the future for our phones which we pay for so expensive really good for future updates and releases. even make it easier and better for development. thank you for your help and support my friend!

gattari said:
Well I made my donation anyway
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Thank you for your valuable support my friend, also updated 2nd post! we are well on our way to make an awesome future for the note! thank you

since i dont hold the credit card(i hate the credit card)...i have transferred the amount to @androindian account and he will sending the amount to you...anyway i have attached the amount transferd receipt..
MY contribution to this project is 45.45 euros...
Keep up the good work!

grgsiocl said:
since i dont hold the credit card(i hate the credit card)...i have transferred the amount to @androindian account and he will sending the amount to you...anyway i have attached the amount transferd receipt..
MY contribution to this project is 45.45 euros...
Keep up the good work!
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Thanks a lot mate! just transferred to the dev right now. updated on 2nd post Thank you!

AWESOME... this is what we were waiting since long time.. i appreciate developer and the one who created this thread. nice work androidindian. as of now am struggling to make Paypal payment coz my card is not accepted. anyway ll try in other way to donate.

the thing is if this works out, im pretty much guessing that our notes and SGS2s will be the next HD2s and has all the rights to be. These exynos powered devices are definitely strong enough to be future proof with them kernels.
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Let's bring on our phones ICS

Hi guys, I'm new here recently purchased a Samsung Galaxy S Plus and want to use ICS on it.
I saw that so far there is no ICS rom for the Galaxy i9001 and so please join forces and invite you to sign this

inginer said:
Hi guys, I'm new here recently purchased a Samsung Galaxy S Plus and want to use ICS on it. Currently use ICS on Galaxy Fit thanks to Maclaw and developers team GalaxyICS.
I saw that so far there is no ICS rom for the Galaxy i9001 and so please join forces and invite you to sign this
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Won't work I think ;p
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Sorry, but this is spam. Search a bit around here and you will find that arco68, the guy who ported CM9 for Galaxy W, is trying to develop some CM9 for our device.
And the 9000 DEVs will not be very helpful as the 9001 uses a completely different chipset, porting from 9000 devices is impossible.
And least to say (although it is sad): such petitions will not change anything. Money does - for buying a beer or two for a good developer - and to buy him a device.

You are so smart
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The best way to get ics on our phone is to support these guys
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1336253
Maybe it would be good if arco would have a 9001

Let's try have nothing to lose.
if they could do to for galaxy fit which is much weaker i think will be possible for i9001 to

have you even read what we wrote down??

Keinbockwurst said:
have you even read what we wrote down??
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Yes i read about that. but there are other developers on here which I'm sure would help us if we address them

Perhaps open up a thread to organize donations, or a plan to secure device(s) for the developers like arco and maclaw? I am interested in donating too, but we need an organized move first.
We've got to start something, maybe we won't have mass threads about ICS and CM9 that way..

I see that are not well received by some of you sot MOD please delete my Thread

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I would ddonate $20 after it's been released, and i think i'm not the only one.
Think the ammount of money that this release would generate if let's say 20% of the rom user would donate a small amount of cash.
Guessit's enough to stimulate a lot of developers to race on the delivery of ICS / CM9
o/
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You don't have to wait till it's finished. They are spending hours per day to develop something for us. I don't want to know how many hours Yarde or Skywalker already put into developing.
So if you want to spend them a coffee go ahead and donate if you can afford it.

[DEV] Finding a devs team

Hey guys and girlz,
as many of you know, the developement for our device is not that great and fast because everybody (except from ivendor and arco and maybe some others) is working alone on a ROM/kernel. We could speed this up by building a dev team where all devs for our device and maybe from galaxy w can work together and improve ROM for ROM instead of doing each ROM alone.
Hope we can do this :good:
If anybody is interested, post it here or PM me
Greets and regards,
markey

AW: [DEV] Finding a devs team
markey97 said:
Hey guys and girlz,
as many of you know, the developement for our device is not that great and fast because everybody (except from ivendor and arco and maybe some others) is working alone on a ROM/kernel. We could speed this up by building a dev team where all devs for our device and maybe from galaxy w can work together and improve ROM for ROM instead of doing each ROM alone.
Hope we can do this :good:
If anybody is interested, post it here or PM me
Greets and regards,
markey
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Hm. Mate are you blind? Look at this forum. We have a lot of roms, some are even twice there from 2 different developers.
For me, personally its perfect like it is. Arco and Ivendor as lead developers for CM10. Other devs can contribute or take their work and make a new rom out of it.
Especially for a almost 2 years old device our forum is really awesome and you should be happy for what weve got here.
Just my 2 cents.
P.s: This is the development section. You should ask things like that on the General section, in the i9001 thread.
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XeLLaR* said:
Hm. Mate are you blind? Look at this forum. We have a lot of roms, some are even twice there from 2 different developers.
For me, personally its perfect like it is. Arco and Ivendor as lead developers for CM10. Other devs can contribute or take their work and make a new rom out of it.
Especially for a almost 2 years old device our forum is really awesome and you should be happy for what weve got here.
Just my 2 cents.
P.s: This is the development section. You should ask things like that on the General section, in the i9001 thread.
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First of all, i appreciate all the work of ivendor , skywalker, brood, xistance and arco and others who did an amazing job of porting major roms to our device. But i must honestly say, i agree on some points with the OP. It is amazing with what we achieved on our small but awesome community, but our phone is getting old and eventually we will be left behind. So now it is the best time to combine all of the knowledge that is hidden in our i9001 section to ensure the future.
In the past year i have been in this section i saw a lot of stuff that could be fixed faster if people would communicate more, like the well known cm9 camera problem (i dont know for sure there was miscommunication as i dont know what happened in the background). A dev team would be awesome.
But i am afraid that this won't work anymore. The glorious days of the i9001 are over. Many good devs left us.
But is is worth the shot. Would be so awesome! If you have any android knowledge, please join.
(I am to stupid. I cant join. I know how qtADB works but that is all).
Also i like the idea of combining the two devices and make a giant dev team for both so we can benefit from there knowledge and they from ours!
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XeLLaR* said:
Hm. Mate are you blind? Look at this forum. We have a lot of roms, some are even twice there from 2 different developers.
For me, personally its perfect like it is. Arco and Ivendor as lead developers for CM10. Other devs can contribute or take their work and make a new rom out of it.
Especially for a almost 2 years old device our forum is really awesome and you should be happy for what weve got here.
Just my 2 cents.
P.s: This is the development section. You should ask things like that on the General section, in the i9001 thread.
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No i'm not, otherwise I couldn't have read the forum and written this here
(Just joking)
I know that we have a lot of ROMs, but there are some from 2 different developers because one of them hasn't updated very long or stopped the project and then a new dev took the work.
Thats your personal opinion and I accept it.
I mean this all because of the bugs that have to be fixed.
No its not that awesome, look at the dhd, they have a big dev team who solves most of the bugs there and they have fully functional Android 4.2 and MANY more ROMs than we have also have a look at some other 2 or more year old devices, most of them have big dev teams who do fast and great work.
I really appreciate the work of all our developers (!!we have a 3.4 kernel which even much newer and better devices don't have!!) but we can make this even better and faster.
Thanks i know this but in general section we couldn't get a team together and i also forgot about this section because i mostly (nearly only) use the developement section
Greets and regards,
markey

I seem to agree with xellar's view. Our I9001 forum is great as it is for a two year old device and development seems to be moving forward at a well-placed pace. I dont see any point in creating a ''dev team'' . Dont get me wrong , I'd love to see it happen. But Im comfortable with the pace here .

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I would also apreciate a dev. BUT the developement of the last 2 years was that good, that i can't comlpain on anything. It works very well the way it goes now. Maybe in the near future (~6 moths) when more importent (doesn't mean the other are unimportant) devs leave the s+ and 5.0 will be roll out, maybe then we need a dev-team.
But we have already s.t. like dev-teams:
Arco and Ivendor (CM9/10)
The kernel devs (Erik, castagna, Biagio, Christopher, ...)
Xistance and Doom (CM10.1)
They all share allready there knowledge and function.
So... No need to hurry in my opinion :beer:
"...nothing is more powerful than a young boy's wish. Except an Apache helicopter..." -Ted

i think we have a lack of devs contributing to really port the newer versions of android. its only arco and ivendor who are doing this and since arco wanted to concentrate more on his own device its only ivendor (arco is yet still involved with our phone). everyone else is "just" forking from ivendor, aokp, aosp and paranoid which is great and which is not necessarily easy. without them there would be nothing else but the cm rom. still its not comparable to ivendors or arcos work. i dont want to diminish the importance of the work of others (sadly i have to always mention it when saying things like that...). i just didn't see them commit to ivendors github and ivendors credits concede my point.

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I'd love to be in the team
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dr.wtf said:
i think we have a lack of devs contributing to really port the newer versions of android. its only arco and ivendor who are doing this and since arco wanted to concentrate more on his own device its only ivendor (arco is yet still involved with our phone). everyone else is "just" forking from ivendor, aokp, aosp and paranoid which is great and which is not necessarily easy. without them there would be nothing else but the cm rom. still its not comparable to ivendors or arcos work. i dont want to diminish the importance of the work of others (sadly i have to always mention it when saying things like that...). i just didn't see them commit to ivendors github and ivendors credits concede my point.
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As true as this is, I still don't like the fact that you say we just fork their work. Both arco and ivendor haven't even started doing any real work on 4.2, forget giving us anything. Camcory and I have brought 4.2 by ourselves, just using arco's kernel source(which is REALLY important so I'm saying nothing to arco).

you probably saw what a mess the "perfectly working cm7" was even though mazen said hes not a real developer. when the 3.4 kernel came up it turned out to be not properly ported. no offense to both of those guys since cm7 actually was usable and the kernel had its right to exist (educk, if you read this, no need to defend yourself, i've read the whole thread).
but you must understand that im kind of suspicious with new things since i don't know if you know what youre doing. im not judging, i really don't know because i'm not qualified. also i dont see anything else going on on your github but your 4.2 porting. so i cant see any references. i also dont see any commits from camcory. thats another thing i cant get an opinion about.
but arco and ivendor have proven to be pretty skilled. i remember someone saying we would never have a 3.x kernel because someone who wanted to port it would be insane...
im still thankful for what youre doing since if ivendor quits its all on you
and im sorry you got in the "just forking" cathegory and everybody else who doesn't feel he belongs there. im just generalizing...
just actually saw your sig. still doesn't change much

dr.wtf said:
you probably saw what a mess the "perfectly working cm7" was even though mazen said hes not a real developer. when the 3.4 kernel came up it turned out to be not properly ported. no offense to both of those guys since cm7 actually was usable and the kernel had its right to exist (educk, if you read this, no need to defend yourself, i've read the whole thread).
but you must understand that im kind of suspicious with new things since i don't know if you know what youre doing. im not judging, i really don't know because i'm not qualified. also i dont see anything else going on on your github but your 4.2 porting. so i cant see any references. i also dont see any commits from camcory. thats another thing i cant get an opinion about.
but arco and ivendor have proven to be pretty skilled. i remember someone saying we would never have a 3.x kernel because someone who wanted to port it would be insane...
im still thankful for what youre doing since if ivendor quits its all on you
and im sorry you got in the "just forking" cathegory and everybody else who doesn't feel he belongs there. im just generalizing...
just actually saw your sig. still doesn't change much
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Only one thing to say:: does not make any sense at all...
What op asked is on team..wats happening here is just nonsense..if somebody interested to work with him pls do it..if u are not interested get the f** k out of here...its not must that each and everyone has to put their point of view..if u are ready to help then help..otherwise leave from this thread...simple....
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This thread needs to be closed. Its like a slap in the face for all of our developers. Shame on you! Show some respect to them. They sacrifiy a lot time to give us a better user experience for our phones but well, everyone is like "hurrdhurr dat fone is not even like a galaxy s3 now brah after flasching tis rom my fone suks bad ass".. Instead of saying thanks to the developers or donate some buck to them for a fresh beer or something.
Always remember this is a single core device, with a midrange chipset and it cant handle even close as much as a S3 or S2.
We have a fully working (vsync and tripple buffer are working and all ither stuff) Jellybean cm10. Not even the s2 or s3 have this because of the lack of sources for their exynos cpus.
I hate this unrepectless behavior.
Be happy with what you got here FOR FREE. And for a Non-flagship device like our i9001, we have A HELL OF A LOT roms and kernels!
Get your **** together people.
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Disrespectfull: YES understandeble: YES.
At our forum/development we got 1-person teams. Some ROMS are made with someone on the background (CM9/CM10/CM10.1).. But the other ROMS that are based on these are made and maintained by 1 person.
I got the feeling that some of us dont have PATIENCE..
And that is something what is very stupid.
Teams are working faster and fixing faster and better bugs in ROMS, that is true.
If the OP want to make a team just ask some developers for godssake. These topic are as disrespectfull as saying WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO UPDATE OR FIXING THIS OR THAT in every goddamm topic.
Just my opnion..

dr.wtf said:
you probably saw what a mess the "perfectly working cm7" was even though mazen said hes not a real developer. when the 3.4 kernel came up it turned out to be not properly ported. no offense to both of those guys since cm7 actually was usable and the kernel had its right to exist (educk, if you read this, no need to defend yourself, i've read the whole thread).
but you must understand that im kind of suspicious with new things since i don't know if you know what youre doing. im not judging, i really don't know because i'm not qualified. also i dont see anything else going on on your github but your 4.2 porting. so i cant see any references. i also dont see any commits from camcory. thats another thing i cant get an opinion about.
but arco and ivendor have proven to be pretty skilled. i remember someone saying we would never have a 3.x kernel because someone who wanted to port it would be insane...
im still thankful for what youre doing since if ivendor quits its all on you
and im sorry you got in the "just forking" cathegory and everybody else who doesn't feel he belongs there. im just generalizing...
just actually saw your sig. still doesn't change much
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Alright, even through, I shouldn't have any comments here as you already screw things up really bad, I feel like I must do it to clear things up a bit around here.
First of all, you said yourself that you don't have any knowledge related to software development, so why are you messing with people that actually devote time to do it? If you have no ideea what development is, why are you talking about it in this manner? I mean, it is ok to ask or to make mistakes, everybody does, nobody is perfect but I consider this post offensive and I must defend myself here.
Second, as far as I'm consern, my GitHub is MINE and I and only I will decide when to push something there. I cannot be forced by anyone to do anything. So, your sentece "I didn's see anything going on on your github" so what?!? Tell me, why should I post anything just for you to see it? Ah, you think I lack activity? Again, so what? I or any other Open Source developer cannot be forced by anyone to publish something. We do this because we like it, we are not paid for it. Maybe if you would pay me to do these things, yeah you could have the right to judge my activity. This is open source, this is Android, the developers are bringing stuff to the end user but the end user is free to choose if he wants to use that piece of software or if he doesn't want to use that software. Same applies to you, you don't have to flash anything on your phone just because it's there online, if you don't like it, don't use it .
About my 3.4 kernel. I mentioned in the OP of the thread that it is an early "alpha" nothing more. I even used the word "preview". If the end user doesn't like the way the kernel is, than he wont use it.
Oh, and I'm not supposed to say this but I'll take this opportunity just for you to see that I'm not lacking activity and actually I want to develop that 3.4 kernel, also I'll explain why I didn't update anything on github.
I worked locally, and everytime I fixed something, 2 other errors came up, after I fixed those 2, another 3 came up and so on. That's why I choosed not to push anything to git until I get something concret. I said this a million times actually: I have no ideea when that kernel will be ready and if it will be ready, I am going to decide if it will be published to git and XDA or not. This is my personal decision, you can't influence me in any way to do anything.
Also, I'm not a full time developer, I'm still a beginer, I'm still learning things here and I choosed to share my work with others, here on XDA because I thought that my work could be usefull. If you or anyone else don't find it usefull, as I said, don't use it .
Also, ivendor won't quit either and there is nothing on me...again, you are trying to push me...this is hilarious...I choosed to start the 3.4 kernel project but that doesn't mean that I must finish it... I really hope you understood something from this post, if not please, just let it go and ignore it. Also, there is no need to apologise, you were wrong by trying to put pressure on me but I ignored it, as you probaly noticed.
Cheers,
Erik

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Insulting to our developers an absolutly not development related..
Cheers

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