*Disclaimer*
This is not my work and I am just posting it here in case some of you are interested. I take no responsibility for any problems on your phone. Don't expect any support from me.
**NOT TESTED BY MYSELF**
This kernel is for ICS, made in China.
Basically a 420MB RAM is the only difference from other kernel (although it's a big one).
Not working:
-Video recording
-HW decoding
-Camera FC when changing resolution (seems to be a problem on every ICS ROM)
Working:
Everything else
Original thread:
http://bbs.lidroid.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=102046
Downloads: http://code.google.com/p/all-roms/downloads/list
The original thread says that the developer tested it with CM9 and AOKP builds.
Have fun!!
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OMFG this kernel is AWESOME!!
Working great here!
EDIT:
Gameloft games don't work couse they use a HW decoded Gameloft logo movie at the beginning so the phone restarts.
What about building a new kernel like this one but... In english ?
My assumption that this would be:
The ramdisk or whatever it called has been modified, i have heard this before with my Nexus S, its so called : BIGMEM...
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Is this based on platypus? Or did he only took the updater-script of it?
This should be placed in SGS development!
I won't post it in development as I didn't do any. (And I don't know how to!)
Just hoping that some devs see it and get interested?
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Not a lot of people come here... Hope they notice it? lol
nice
tried on Dark knight.
work very well. but camcorder fc.
interesting
Isn't part of the RAM required by the gpu? Maybe that's why it has hardware decoding issues??
We normally get 340Mb Ram with bigmem kernel (break HD record), he disable the MFC in http://pastebin.com/f5ytsipx so the kernel reclaim 70Mb from video HW decoding, so the kernel got 420Mb, but it's not the way to do things, probally will never get into out mainline kernel
Uuh, if there only was a way to keep HW decoding AND get 420 mb! My SGS sure could use extra 70mb, 330 is just NOT ENOUGH for Android.
Wow, I would love to try it if it were a gingerbread (stock) kernel .
If people want to use multiple kernels, it probably only takes a minute to flash an alternate kernel and reboot your device. that way you get the best of both worlds (but admittedly it is not the best solution).
I just went and read about the thread since I can read chinese lol
The dev there said he based his kernel on this guy https://github.com/ngiordano/ics_3.1.10
and Funnnny was correct, he disabled the MFC so that android can reclaim the reserved ram from that unit, which is about 70MB. But this breaks hardware video decoding and camcorder.....
But he made a compensation in the recovery so that when you need camcorder you can reboot and flash standard kernel, when you don't need it, you can flash back to the huge ram kernel....
dunno if that's useful....
Oh but can't play any games. Giving fc. I'm very interested! If you can override videos in game, you can play. Lets find a way to fix it. Think think rhink
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Very interesting! How long have users complained "Where is our 512mb???" etc etc lol.
Is it just me or does dedicated RAM seem not necessary? Maybe it is possible to remap video/gpu/camera or whatever to shared RAM?
+1 oswade.
btw,which one to download??:there's one named i9000 and another t959 kernel panic fixed.
edit:well I downloaded the i9000 one. .it feels good to see 240 mb free ram on the info screen.
hope some developer further develops this idea.
oswade said:
Very interesting! How long have users complained "Where is our 512mb???" etc etc lol.
Is it just me or does dedicated RAM seem not necessary? Maybe it is possible to remap video/gpu/camera or whatever to shared RAM?
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Dedicated RAM isn't necessary of course, but the Exynos SoC have MFC module that expect to use the Ram at a specific address, so the kernel can't touch it (known as reservation).
We can't just take the reserved Ram and use it, because next time when the module need it, it'll only use the Ram at the address it knows, and bang, the phone rebooted like the kernel in OP.
This is not just bad design at software level, maybe bad hardware design too, but I'm not system expert so I can't say anything here, but Exynos is a cool SoC and we should live on with this.
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Oh but can't play any games. Giving fc.
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I've tried:
Dead Space
Andry Birds
Reckless Getaway
Hot Springs Story
They does work.
SPY mouse restarts the phone. I guess, it has a video in it.
Anyway, this kernel is rather interesting. I do hope that devs would find a way to trick SGS to play HD videos in software mode to avoid reboots. This way we'll have 70mb extra ram and won't lose anything - even if those videos would lag - who cares?
Also tried this kernel on ics slim and it feels good to have such ammount of free ram.
I also run dead space and reckless racing without any problems.Im assuming gameloft games wont run because they have always a video introducing the game.I just wish someone could break the video aceleration even if we had to loose lets say 20 mb of ram.Still would be very usefull.Ive posted in the stratosk kernel thread about this to see if he is interested on modify this kernel and make it even better
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I followed this guide to install Overcome_v2.0.0_RC1:
(cant link yet)overcome.mimzo.com/?page_id=64
I started from: Re-“Stocking” Yer System…
I love it! My Tab is faster, does not lag anymore and just works great!
Thanks to all devs.
great news will try it thanks.
Same here. The improvement in the stock browser is jaw dropping. It used to be shocking, now it hangs with my iPad now problems.
hmmm . i think the thread is out of record .. !!
So this will not work with the Sprint Tab? I am new to all of this.
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ThaClown said:
I followed this guide to install Overcome_v2.0.0_RC1:
(cant link yet)overcome.mimzo.com/?page_id=64
I started from: Re-“Stocking” Yer System…
I love it! My Tab is faster, does not lag anymore and just works great!
Thanks to all devs.
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It lags on 720p and 1080p movies if u dont enable hw acc , but then u break avi containers. . . U still can use any alternative player like moboplayer wich uses hw acc
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i experienced that it is quite fast to change between stagefright on and of with blade buddy, even without any reboot or ui restart, so more or less enables playing all movies in best way.
anyway, when someone could write a very small app that just toggles stagefright for the player on and off through widget, it would be the perfect solution (until there is a real fix available - which doesn't seem to be yet)
Its really nice
Lemo777 said:
i experienced that it is quite fast to change between stagefright on and of with blade buddy, even without any reboot or ui restart, so more or less enables playing all movies in best way.
anyway, when someone could write a very small app that just toggles stagefright for the player on and off through widget, it would be the perfect solution (until there is a real fix available - which doesn't seem to be yet)
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Did you turn all of your mediafright settings on, or just the one with -http at the end?
I already downloaded it. I enabled hw.acceleration, but for mediafright the only one I have on is the one with the -http tag. Should I turn all on?
I'm using mVideoPlayer for videos btw. My Mobo still lags.
Liars !!!!
OVERCOME 1.64 ON FROYO is farmore polishes and miles ahead in performance compared to OVERCOME 2.0RC1.
Ext4 filesystem on froyo ****s over gingerbread stock.
Quad scores
FROYO - 3800
GINGER - 1500
I can get 4000+ quad if I o/c
ziggary said:
Liars !!!!
OVERCOME 1.64 ON FROYO is farmore polishes and miles ahead in performance compared to OVERCOME 2.0RC1.
Ext4 filesystem on froyo ****s over gingerbread stock.
Quad scores
FROYO - 3800
GINGER - 1500
I can get 4000+ quad if I o/c
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Whoaaa.... Chill out mate. No point trying to call people names., or accusing anyone of lying.
It's true that the Gingerbread-based ROMs (including Overcome RC1) doesn't have ext4 support so it'll make some file-intensive tasks to be slower than it is on the optimised, ext4-enabled Froyo-based firmwares.
Benchmarks, and especially synthetic benchmarks like Quadrant are slightly skewed in that area. As anyone with extensive experience with these tools will tell you, benchmark tools like these do not reflect real-world experience.
However, on non-I/O intensive based tasks, the back-end optimisations on GB does provide for a much more smoother experience. It's just not as properly optimised as the Froyo-based Overcome 1.x series yet...
... And yes, there will be someI apps that will be broken, whenever a new, major base like this is released.
Of course, the best scenario would be an overclocking/undervolting, ext4-supporting kernel for Gingerbread, of which AB86 is currently busy working on in his Batcave...
Trust me, as a person who has extensive experience with ALL Overcome ROMs and kernels, I prefer the current Gingerbread-based ROMs compared to the Froyo-based ones.
Anyway, my point is this... everybody's got their own preference and choice. Some prefer the Froyo-based ROMs/kernels over Gingerbread, just like some prefer Windows XP over Windows 7. No point trying to be fanboi-ish or militant about stuffing your choices down people's throats...
Relax and enjoy the fruits of AB86 labours...
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I'm using an "old" 1.4.x overcome version and I am fully happy with.
I have no issue at all, that's why I don't upgrade to 2.x
Anyway, when google talk video will work, I'll be pleased to upgrade to 2.x, in the meantime, I have no reason to upgrade.
The other reason is the upgrade processing : I have no windowz computer, so using odin and friends is a pain in the a**.
If they released this with overcome it might have had half a chance in the market against ipad.
The difference is night and day
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People laim gingerbread has better browser yet news.com.au on oc 1.64 at 1.2mhz is three tkmes smoother lol
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pendevous said:
Did you turn all of your mediafright settings on, or just the one with -http at the end?
I already downloaded it. I enabled hw.acceleration, but for mediafright the only one I have on is the one with the -http tag. Should I turn all on?
I'm using mVideoPlayer for videos btw. My Mobo still lags.
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i have to toggle the stagefright "player" setting on and off depending on material. depending on material and setting, i think i dont realise any greater lag, even from external sd card. but i havnt watched a complete movie in 1080p.
MoxFulder_CH said:
The other reason is the upgrade processing : I have no windowz computer, so using odin and friends is a pain in the a**.
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I used heimdall under Linux with success fyi. Just need to untar the package, and choose all the correct files separately ( except Movinand.mst and hidden.rfs, no use).
ziggary said:
Liars !!!!
OVERCOME 1.64 ON FROYO is farmore polishes and miles ahead in performance compared to OVERCOME 2.0RC1.
Ext4 filesystem on froyo ****s over gingerbread stock.
Quad scores
FROYO - 3800
GINGER - 1500
I can get 4000+ quad if I o/c
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Wow, 3800 on Froyo! Only made it to 2400 max. You must have been tweeking the hell out of your tab =)
How hard would it be to make a EC05 kernel that has EXT4 support, Undervolted, Dual boot support, increased FPS to 75. I don't want/need overclocking ability.
Question 1, why not just use Genocide? Question 2, why the fps increase?
But if you were to make your own, you might want to find a guide for compiling your own kernel from source.
Also, this would've probably been better in Development or Q & A
ugothakd said:
Question 1, why not just use Genocide? Question 2, why the fps increase?
But if you were to make your own, you might want to find a guide for compiling your own kernel from source.
Also, this would've probably been better in Development or Q & A
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Oh I didn't know there was a Development Q&A forum and yes it would be better in that forum. I used Genocide and the battery life I get with that Kernel wasn't great. Currently I'm using revolt kernel and the battery life seems decent but I would like to dual boot because I'm currently creating my own EC05 rom. The FPS increase is just a + for some games I play I usually aim for 60+ on my computer might aswell aim for 60+ on my phone. I'm pretty sure the PowerVR SGX540 could run most android games at 60+ without an issue at 480x800
Edit: just noticed Twilight Zone kernel has been updated, I haven't used it since v1.0 and I wasn't pleased with the battery performance. Still wish it had dual boot support.
I'm on era and I haven't ever used dial boot but I'm pretty sure our revolt kernel is capable, at least that was the idea when we first created it. I could be wrong but and may have missed an update where we took that capability out, but like I said I think it supports dual boot. I will try and get into contact with our kernel guys and double check for you.
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newbieandroid said:
Oh I didn't know there was a Development Q&A forum and yes it would be better in that forum. I used Genocide and the battery life I get with that Kernel wasn't great. Currently I'm using revolt kernel and the battery life seems decent but I would like to dual boot because I'm currently creating my own EC05 rom. The FPS increase is just a + for some games I play I usually aim for 60+ on my computer might aswell aim for 60+ on my phone. I'm pretty sure the PowerVR SGX540 could run most android games at 60+ without an issue at 480x800
Edit: just noticed Twilight Zone kernel has been updated, I haven't used it since v1.0 and I wasn't pleased with the battery performance. Still wish it had dual boot support.
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The fps patch I know nothing about, so I can't help you there. As for the dual boot, I contacted the creator of it (Rodderik) on irc and he said to take the initramfs files and overwrite them in the kernel's initramfs. For that, you would need to unpack/repack the initramfs. Chris41g has a tutorial. Once you get that done, you should setup your dualboot sdcard.
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I'm on era and I haven't ever used dial boot but I'm pretty sure our revolt kernel is capable, at least that was the idea when we first created it. I could be wrong but and may have missed an update where we took that capability out, but like I said I think it supports dual boot. I will try and get into contact with our kernel guys and double check for you.
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Thank you very much, so far I'm liking the kernel's battery life. It would be awesome if it could dual boot.
After some search in this propose I have found that Motorola xoom developers sucedded to overclock the GPU by 33% whick means clock speed of (442.89 ) mhz instead of stock (333mhz ) and a big boost in speed , knowing that we have same processor like the motorola Xoom can any developer here do this GPU overclock ,or should I post this thread in development thread .
links :
1. http://www.xda-developers.com/android/xoom-now-zooming-along-at-1-7-ghz-thanks-to-tiamat-kernel/
2. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=978013
this is a question about development so you put it in the right spot.
Sweet!! Let's see if we can get this for our GT's!
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Maybe u could would like us to create the pershoot kernel?
Even subsidies would probably be found.
I'm not a kernel developer ,I created this thread to. Get the attention of the developers to do the gpu overclock. In case they. Haven't Heard About it.
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Is it really necessary to overclock tegra2?
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Shreddeddownload said:
Is it really necessary to overclock tegra2?
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It is about the GPU, not the processor!
And no..... imo it's not necessary...BUT the important thing is that you CAN do stuff like that on android (along with tons of other tweaks as you know already).. And it is fun!!! (although there is always the risc of bricking ) Android rocks!!!
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It may not be necessary, but it sure is fun tweaking and hacking!
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so would this allow us to play 1080 on our tabs?
mj0528 said:
so would this allow us to play 1080 on our tabs?
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i don't think so , the problem with 1080p videos is not hardware related , it is with the drivers support for tegra 2 , the tegra 2 hardware accelerates certain format of 1080 p videos , but doesn't support others so some 1080p plays smooth and others don't , anyway i will asko on the motorola xoom forum if the gpu overclock helped them with that .
mj0528 said:
so would this allow us to play 1080 on our tabs?
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I might be wrong but the tab's screen resolution isn't capable of 1080p.
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Panos_dm said:
I might be wrong but the tab's screen resolution isn't capable of 1080p.
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yes you are right it is a little higher than the 720p resolution but this has nothing to do with 1080p video playback the original galaxy tab 7 has (1024 x 600 ) screen and can play any 1080 p video
The tablet screen may not play 1080p, but when using HDMI out to a TV or other monitor, it would be nice to be able to output 1080p then...
Definitely would be appreciated to see task work his voodoo and incorporate this in his roms. That guy is talented!!!
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I guess it's almost impossible to play ALL 1080p videos with the gpu. But it may be possible to play it with a fast software player. Did anyone try the Android VLC?
edit: just tried a vlc alpha. works, but only a few secs and veeerryyy sloooww - but it's possible (maybe other SW player?)
RieGo's kernel actually incorporates a gpu overclock.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1328023
Xerocide said:
RieGo's kernel actually incorporates a gpu overclock.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1328023
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Riegos kernell actually doesent bring much of a gpu boost, so bump!
My both friends, Yoda and Google, told me about two links for the issue GPU overclocking:
one + two (the dev link for two)
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.tegrak.overclock.ultimate&hl=en
I didn't really see anything about overclocking the Galaxy Tab GPU. The first link provides stock comparisons, the second references the original galaxy tab, not the new one (if you look at the developer's site).
The hardware should allow us to watch 1080p movies but the software dosnt use the hole hardware. so we have to wait till the software is able to use the hole hardware. thats my opinion.
Edit says: RieGo stopt to implement GPU OC because it is to unstable. "dosnt work"
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...&utm_medium=organic&utm_term=ram+manager+free
Download this app grant superuser permissions click balance scroll down and check lock launcher in memory. And enjoy the speed.
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Or use the original V6 Supercharger, which was poorly copied by that app
V6 or nothing.
I don't need this app since I use DiXperia 2 ROM. Super smooth even with millions widgets installed.
Prefer stock for the official support and this app is helpful for gaming lag/etc.
Prefer this app to v6
I remember seeing Juwe11 post a ram script and it was hell popular last time too. Why is it accused of being a copy now?
i downlaoded the pro version, switch to hard gamming, and i still have the same performance on dead trigger, a bit laggy and with some frame drops, im running the game on the lowest setting
i wanna pimp my xplay..
gac3la said:
i downlaoded the pro version, switch to hard gamming, and i still have the same performance on dead trigger, a bit laggy and with some frame drops, im running the game on the lowest setting
i wanna pimp my xplay..
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Use the less aggressive hard gaming one. Its far better for our amount of ram
Jordanooo said:
Use the less aggressive hard gaming one. Its far better for our amount of ram
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Hard Gamming ( Less Agressive ) Mode: ON
Zep (the creator of V6) claims RMP stole some numbers and OOM fixes he used for his script. Which is why V6 wont even install if you have RMP somewhere installed.
Xperia-Play said:
I don't need this app since I use DiXperia 2 ROM. Super smooth even with millions widgets installed.
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I only have 3 widgets and it still hangs :S
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drivenby said:
Zep (the creator of V6) claims RMP stole some numbers and OOM fixes he used for his script. Which is why V6 wont even install if you have RMP somewhere installed.
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I have both running :S
even with HARD GAMMING less agressive, the same laggy performance for my games
gac3la said:
i downlaoded the pro version, switch to hard gamming, and i still have the same performance on dead trigger, a bit laggy and with some frame drops, im running the game on the lowest setting
i wanna pimp my xplay..
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Go and check out Project Lard
It helps so much, even tho its Ment to speed up UI it speeds up gaming 2!!!,C:
This app is SUPER and better than RAM Manager app
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...xLDEsImNvbS5idXJha2dvbi5nYW1lYm9vc3RlcjIiXQ..
All of this is just placebo until numbers can be shown, and even then its not for sure. Even Antutu can be + or - 1000 points depending what cycle the moon is in (joke), but yeah I believe 90% of the scripts out there don't do anything useful at all. I've never noticed a difference. Even the bravia engine is a joke, unless you side by side a hi res picture, you really aren't going to notice difference.
In past, i used this. And i think that is placebo effect, like others. No real or significant results.
You guys are digging out 7 months old topic... I reckon that none of these folks from 08.2012 are going to look back into this thread after 7 months..
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olokos said:
You guys are digging out 7 months old topic... I reckon that none of these folks from 08.2012 are going to look back into this thread after 7 months..
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To be honest, I don't think people can win. If they start a new topic about something then they are told to use the search as the topic already exists elsewhere but then if they do use the search and find a relevant topic then they are told its too old. How can you win?
In my opinion, if the topic is relevant, the age of the thread shouldn't matter. Its much better to have an old thread with a lot of contributions to it than the same thread posted 100x over.
i hate all that placebo think they love to play with our mind....lol, like the volume control apps, that gains bout 120% of volume gain...lol not true
The i9000 has just 389 mb ram available to users and hence often leads to lags and app closures in background, in addition to poor gaming performance(apps have to be closed by the game causing stutters and frame rate dops in the beginning of any game)
I was wondering if like ios it was possible for a rom dev to just allow core os apps in a rom and have psuedo-multitasking(freezing and unfreezing) like ios.The reason that iphone 4s, works so smooth and can play heavy games(like real racing 3) with 512 mb ram is because of their multi tasking technique.
At the moment,There is an option in developer options where you can limit background processes to none and purge activities as soon as you exit the activity.This is good for running games(as even the launcher and any other back ground app is closed as soon as u start the app allowing full ram for the current game).This is good for gamers but prevents any form of multi tasking between apps.
If this could be used in complement with freezing and unfreezing of background apps(like ios) then maybe this phone would not have any lag issues at all, even in future heavy os updates.
P.S : It's just an idea. I'm no dev but sure could use an opinion of one .
EDIT : A solution which works for me. Gamerzrom v4.0 has caching of apps pre-enabled. So no more apps killed in background due to lack of ram.
Or you could just use a task manager/killer. Es task manager is good.
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huskyT said:
Or you could just use a task manager/killer. Es task manager is good.
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Taskmanagers are not good and are conflicting with android LMK.
I'd also love to see stuff working like this. Instead of killing all the apps running in background, keep them "frozen" and restore their last state when opening, just like iOS.
And please, don't give us ideas like task killers, tweaks, overclock, bigmem and stuff.. That's NOT what I want, got it?
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kogli said:
I'd also love to see stuff working like this. Instead of killing all the apps running in background, keep them "frozen" and restore their last state when opening, just like iOS.
And please, don't give us ideas like task killers, tweaks, overclock, bigmem and stuff.. That's NOT what I want, got it?
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Buy an iPhone then. Got it?
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Too expensive xDD
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Try Greenify
mrjraider said:
Taskmanagers are not good and are conflicting with android LMK.
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Agreed as task killers never worked for me, But to have actual freezing (of background apps only) there's greenify (available on market for free for root users only), and so i have enough ram(about 170-190 mb) to play heavy games without much lag.
But the issue here is to have proper multi-tasking without burdening the os. That is just like how greenify stores the state of the app in background and then completely freezes it, so it won't start again in background and yet open normally when needed(better than disabling the app/service) .If something like this could be extended to foreground apps.
If there's no solution possible, then just buy the cheaper version of iphone coming soon, if its expensive ryt now .
Thats a great idea but there's a problem today new phones come out like crazy i mean now you have phones with quad core processors and 1gb of ram new graphic gpus and stuff which make our phones too old and weak and most people dont bother with things like that because most of them just get a new phone sooner or later which doesnt really need this since they are strong enough to run anything and make it happen fast. So in conclusion devs dont bother with a project that big cause they will move on to different phones as you see they are cheaper everyday. I blame everything on android cause it could have been made better. I have my hopes up for ubuntu touch but well see how that goes
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Still many people have sgs
darkknigh_t said:
Thats a great idea but there's a problem today new phones come out like crazy i mean now you have phones with quad core processors and 1gb of ram new graphic gpus and stuff which make our phones too old and weak and most people dont bother with things like that because most of them just get a new phone sooner or later which doesnt really need this since they are strong enough to run anything and make it happen fast. So in conclusion devs dont bother with a project that big cause they will move on to different phones as you see they are cheaper everyday. I blame everything on android cause it could have been made better. I have my hopes up for ubuntu touch but well see how that goes
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Well over 25 million sgs1 have been sold, and all of them don't have enough money to upgrade anytime soon.
Also the need of such high specs is because apps run in parallel in background.If such a project to develop psuedo-multi tasking is started and completed, then there won't be any need of upgrading ur phone at all(even other low ram phones will benefit from it). But such a project requires great deal of work with how the system works internally, it will require great devs (which we have ) so maybe something can happen :fingers-crossed:.
I know that our phones are strong enough to handle any app one at a time(i disabled all background services possible and set phone to purge any activity as soon as it exits and set background app limit to 0 , using 439mb ram option in devil kernel with sick sky launcher), so i had upto 230 mb ram free when i checked it in settings app(which uses 30 mb ram itself) . With such a setup and oc to 1.2 ghz, i have been able to play real racing 3 with medium graphics(modded)(played at level of graphics of iphone 4) on my phone with almost no lag.
Yes the i9000 has sold alot but ive been looking at the dev section and people are moving on slowly :/ which is a shame. Our phones have enough power for now but for how long i think that at lot of devs will leave the i9000 which makes me sad but what can you do.
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As above:
The same is for our device the Samsung Galaxy S Plus (I9001). There is development but it is slow and some great developers have gone to another device
mrjraider said:
As above:
The same is for our device the Samsung Galaxy S Plus (I9001). There is development but it is slow and some great developers have gone to another device
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Yes if you notice devs have left and those who stayed have many projects and so the development goes slow until it stopps :/
Many of us dont have the money to move to a new device so well just see whats going to happen fingeres crossed it all goes okay
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Im still on modified gingerbread. xD
Use greenify search for it in the play store
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Couldn't this easily be achieved with a swappiness tweak? Write any app that isn't in focus onto the swap partition so no background apps are in memory, would make the system **** tier slow though for anything but gaming.
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Delete bloatware,disable unnecessary services without disabling whole app with DisableServices app ( you can find it on google store,and it's free), install busybox pro and run RAM manager Pro, and last step would be to try installing soem custom Roms which probably could give better performance to you.
A good setup for gaming
For those people who want to obtain maximum performance from games, here are some tips which i have found over the 3 years i have had this phone:
1) The best kernel for gaming which i have used would be devil kernel (jb 4.2) , purely because of a 439 mb ram optionum amount of ram which can be found usable at the moment. This mode however disables the camera completely. Also it has options for overclocking.
I personally use the 439 mb ram option and 1.2 ghz clock speed for processor.
2) Try to use a debloated rom, and then try to use as less gapps as possible i.e. try to use the slim version of the gapps for the rom or install the gapps which u require manually. The gapps are not shown normally but under google services so u cant hibernate them with greenify. SO its better to not have unused gapps and features like face unlock ets.
3) Instead of using task managers, use greenify so that apps do not restart again. And try to hibernate all apps which u dont require. Apps like facebook, g+ and whatsapp are the biggest ram hoggers. Also beware of google maps cuz it does not hibernates(uses 30-40 mb ram)
4) Disable services like email exchange etc which are not used by you at all.
5)I have seen that restarting the phone helps get rid of some google core services, giving more free ram.
6) There is an option in developer settings at the bottom in apps section, set background app limit to none and also check the option "don't keep activities". Do this just before gaming and then undo them after ur done or else it will prevent any form of multi tasking.
7)Try to use light weight launchers, and no widgets(as these themselve are like an extra process which need to run in background). I am using sicksky launcher(uses just 18 mb). other options are zeam and lightning launcher.
NOTE : anyone using stock samsung rom (2.3.6), they should switch over to a custom rom, because samsung rom is completely not for gamers. most of the system processes are hard to kill , also total available ram is only (316-330) vs jb ( total ram usable is 390- 439). However if
u dont wanna change ur rom, greenify will still help, also disabling services.
Conclusion: I am using gamerzrom v4, with devil kernel using 439 mb ram option and 1.2 ghz oc.
I have had no lags in all temple runs (including oz), subway surfer and rr3 on medium graphics, nfs mw. normally using the above tips i have 180-210 + <ram used by settings app> ram free at any moment when i'm checking free ram in settings->apps->running (settings itself is a process and to see total free ram add the amount used by settings to free ram).
Also i have observed that the game devs(mainly gameloft and glu) have now begun to put our phone in low power gpu category(not totally incorrect for an unmodded sgs but not true if u have use the above tricks(especially oc and ram mod)).
so these games often can be modded for higher graphics (various mods on xda for games like nfs mw, rr3, asphalt 7, nova 3 etc) so they can be played with better graphics without lag. I have tried nfs mw mod, asphalt 7 mod, rr3 mod and they all work pretty good on medium(not available normally).
i would love it if more people share their tips on how they keep their phones going strong
Saw this Forum, Even tho im not a Samsung GS1 User, My Buddy has one and i recently gave him my ADJ Values that i use on my Xperia Play (same specs as ur device...) and he said he could do Gaming, Multitasking, and All sorts of more,
Here it is:
Code:
# Pro Gamer ADJ 1.3 By Pizza_Dox
ro.FOREGROUND_APP_ADJ=0
ro.VISIBLE_APP_ADJ=3
ro.PERCEPTIBLE_APP_ADJ=2
ro.HEAVY_WEIGHT_APP_ADJ=3
ro.SECONDARY_SERVER_ADJ=15
ro.BACKUP_APP_ADJ=7
ro.HOME_APP_ADJ=6
ro.HIDDEN_APP_MIN_ADJ=3
ro.EMPTY_APP_ADJ=15
Also if u Wanna Keep the Home Launcher in Ram do this Instead of This:
Code:
ro.HOME_APP_ADJ=6
Replace with This:
Code:
ro.HOME_APP_ADJ=1
Oh and to apply them just copy to build.prop but make sure their arnt any other ADJ Values, then once done save and reboot!
Hope this helped,
Oh btw try VmLagTunner before Playing Games, Or install Permanently!
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darkknigh_t said:
Yes the i9000 has sold alot but ive been looking at the dev section and people are moving on slowly :/ which is a shame. Our phones have enough power for now but for how long i think that at lot of devs will leave the i9000 which makes me sad but what can you do.
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Well, our I9000s are almost 4 year old so no doubt that the development is gonna be worse, cause newer devices are being released.
Anyway, 4.2 seems to work bad on our phones so I really doubt that 4.3 will be any better. It just seems that the new JellyBean more performance than our phones can offer.
Sooner or later we all will switch to something newer
Dandry said:
Well, our I9000s are almost 4 year old so no doubt that the development is gonna be worse, cause newer devices are being released.
Anyway, 4.2 seems to work bad on our phones so I really doubt that 4.3 will be any better. It just seems that the new JellyBean more performance than our phones can offer.
Sooner or later we all will switch to something newer
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I dont know about that im running gamerzrom 4.2 and its running great i think 4.2 can run fine just needs a little more work and time but yea will have to move on to a new phone :/
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