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Switching to Evo

Alright, so after permantely bricking my phone twice and frustrated with Samsung's/Sprint's lack of support in FroYo, I've decided I'm going to be switching over to the Evo.
One question, if I complain to them that there is a defect in their system since the same problem has happened twice within a month, do you think they will let me switch over to the Evo, and if so, how much would that cost?
Edit: Also, could I use my SD card/battery for this phone?

from what I know, you have to exchange your phone 3 times for the same reason.

good for u. at least some of the epic users are standing up and doing something about their bs. ima wait it out like a wuss

Vertig0 said:
from what I know, you have to exchange your phone 3 times for the same reason.
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Then I'll lie and say this was the third time.
If it wasn't in their records, I'm sure I could just say something like the one you gave me immediately was defective so this technically is my third phone.
I'm honestly done with Samsung.

acer1096xxx said:
Then I'll lie and say this was the third time.
If it wasn't in their records, I'm sure I could just say something like the one you gave me immediately was defective so this technically is my third phone.
I'm honestly done with Samsung.
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Honestly I think you'll regret it when froyo gets released on the Epic =/ but its your choice!
Good luck,
D3luSi0n4L

D3luSi0n4L said:
Honestly I think you'll regret it when froyo gets released on the Epic =/ but its your choice!
Good luck,
D3luSi0n4L
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Lol, I probably will. The thing is though, with the evo, they get a lot more updates at least. I don't need the keyboard. I've seen the resolution; not that bad, truthfully. Besides, the Sense UI looks really nice.
I just feel like Sprint and HTC notice the Evo a lot more in its flaws and are constantly trying to make it better.
I just don't want to be with Samsung anymore.
So does anyone know if it's three times or not?! If it is, I'll literally just break the next one.

Why not just walk into a store in your leisure, or call in to C.S and get the right info from the horse's mouth?
Or better still try and unbrick your Epic (might be possible if you expand on what "permanently bricked" it), sell in on C.L and buy an Evo.

Don't be ghetto. You broke your phone. Own up to it. It you want to switch, then switch. Vote with your buying power.

LordLugard said:
Why not just walk into a store in your leisure, or call in to C.S and get the right info from the horse's mouth?
Or better still try and unbrick your Epic (might be possible if you expand on what "permanently bricked" it), sell in on C.L and buy an Evo.
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Well bad news on that.
Apparently, there's no possible way I can switch the phone.
Unless...well, if I were to buy an Evo online, do you think they could activate it for me with the same number and everything even though I'm not eligible for an upgrade?

Yes. You should be able to activate it yourself.

What the hell did you do? I'm a noob ad I've modded my Epic a lot and never had a problem.

Toast95135 said:
What the hell did you do? I'm a noob ad I've modded my Epic a lot and never had a problem.
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Installed the Nebula Rom w/ EXT4.
I didn't know the Nebula ROM at the ext4 kernal baked in it, so after doing all the steps, I flashed the kernal and I think that's what happened to it.
I don't care though. I understand it's my fault but Samsung just pisses me off anyway.
And the fact that the Evo is not even a phone listed for trading the Epic in after a certain time is just crazy.
Two best phones on Sprint, and you can't even trade one for another.

It probably happened at band camp. One time....

I have to ask the obvious question. Did you try to use Odin to take it back to stock. Not saying it can't happen, but it's pretty damn hard to brick your phone.
The newer DK28 ROM's are using the EXT4 setup, RFS (or whatever it's called) is Samsungs, so if you are going to flash a newer ROM with the EXT4, then you will have to set your EPIC up for it. There are threads floating around for that, just search and read.
I myself am not happy with Samsungs support, but that's why I come here, we have some awesome devs that like our hardware! And our hardware is awesome!
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blutenchi said:
I have to ask the obvious question. Did you try to use Odin to take it back to stock. Not saying it can't happen, but it's pretty damn hard to brick your phone.
The newer DK28 ROM's are using the EXT4 setup, RFS (or whatever it's called) is Samsungs, so if you are going to flash a newer ROM with the EXT4, then you will have to set your EPIC up for it. There are threads floating around for that, just search and read.
I myself am not happy with Samsungs support, but that's why I come here, we have some awesome devs that like our hardware! And our hardware is awesome!
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Yes, I have tried. It CAN go into download mode, but the USB is unable to recognize it on three pcs and even a mac (running Heimdall, not Odin of course)
Unfortunately, I think I've learned my lesson and that I should just be patient with FroYo coming...it will come this month (at the end, most likely) I really hope, if not...oh well. I'm just going to have to be patient and satisfied with what I have. I am not going to make another mistake. Bringing it again would just cause even more suspicion anyway.

same problem here. Eventually it was recoginized as a samsung modem for some reason and the comport was recognized. trying using different cable and usb ports.

How do you permanently brick a phone twice?

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How do you permanently brick a phone twice?
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Its hard to do I bet. Then again this guy basically admitted he has defrauded and was going to attempt to defraud a company on a public forum, so intelligence or lack there of might be a part of it.
I say HAS defrauded because I seriously doubt he told Sprint that he bricked his phone while flashing custom roms and that they replaced it.

If you really want to get rid of it then fine.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=Samsung_Galaxy_S/SPH-D700#Odin_Stock_Flashing
Follow that and that will fix it. After that run the all in one 2.5.5 root and recovery and you'll be good to go. Use odin. I bought the overpriced micro usb cable at sprint and I've never had a problem with it on any phone. Wait until the official froyo comes out and download the tar from here or the zip clockworkmod flash update then root it. That's what I would/am doing. Yes I hate the epic but I don't have the money to get another evo right now. All my luck a new superphone will be released and I'll be stuck with the old stuff.
A few things I didn't like about the evo was the screen wasn't very bright, the battery life is bad, and the wifi/4g/3g reception sucks ass compared to the epic. The epic definitely hears the towers and wifi better.

acer1096xxx said:
Yes, I have tried. It CAN go into download mode, but the USB is unable to recognize it on three pcs and even a mac (running Heimdall, not Odin of course)
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On the Windows computers, did you make sure to have the Galaxy S drivers installed? You can't flash via Odin without installing the Galaxy S drivers - after that it should flash like clockwork...like a clockworkmod lol.

Paranoid about the warranty!

Hello!
Just got my Epic 4G a few days ago and I'm already itching to root it, but I'm paranoid about the warranty. Sprint rep told me that they were anal about it and it would void it.
I used to have a Nexus One with T-Mobile and I was flashing new ROMs and kernels almost every day. I've always been a 'nerd' so I know what it all means and how to do it... but there's that lingering warranty in my mind. I was worried about it at first on my Nexus One, but eventually rooted and unlocked the bootloader even though I knew it meant the warranty went byebye.
Can someone offer me some piece of mind? Are these things easy to un-root? Is there any way that a Sprint tech could find out if it was ever rooted should I ever need to take advantage of the warranty?
I'll be honest with you, I'm not sure if it's worth it. I am not going to flash custom ROMs (yes, I miss FroYo, but I'm content)... the only reason I'm interested in rooting is for things like AdFree, Juice Defender, and removing stock apps.
Thoughts?

99% of Sprint reps not only could never tell your phones been rooted without seeing a different boot screen, but don't even know what root is.

Ryjabo said:
Hello!
Just got my Epic 4G a few days ago and I'm already itching to root it, but I'm paranoid about the warranty. Sprint rep told me that they were anal about it and it would void it.
I used to have a Nexus One with T-Mobile and I was flashing new ROMs and kernels almost every day. I've always been a 'nerd' so I know what it all means and how to do it... but there's that lingering warranty in my mind. I was worried about it at first on my Nexus One, but eventually rooted and unlocked the bootloader even though I knew it meant the warranty went byebye.
Can someone offer me some piece of mind? Are these things easy to un-root? Is there any way that a Sprint tech could find out if it was ever rooted should I ever need to take advantage of the warranty?
I'll be honest with you, I'm not sure if it's worth it. I am not going to flash custom ROMs (yes, I miss FroYo, but I'm content)... the only reason I'm interested in rooting is for things like AdFree, Juice Defender, and removing stock apps.
Thoughts?
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Nothing to worry about... If you have to take your phone back to the store just Odin back to stock and problem solve. Everything is on the Wiki.

063_XOBX said:
99% of Sprint reps not only could never tell your phones been rooted without seeing a different boot screen, but don't even know what root is.
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exactly! I took my epic in back in November to complain about battery management issue I was having and to swap out for a new one. I told the rep what a bummer it was that I had to re-install all my apps and he said
"naw man, you can just save everything on your sd card no problem. that's what its there for!"
to which I replied, "only on froyo, and only if you install the leaked dk28 build"
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Yeah they don't even know.if a phone is rooted or not. Besides just like people aid previously just use Odin and it.flashes it.back to stock. Its a lifesaver sometimes.
Sent from my Evo Killer!!!

Some older phones used to have flash counters, and I don't know if the epic has one. Typically they are buried deep in inaccessible areas and I doubt that any sprint store would have the wherewithal to get at it. I'm sure that Samsung could probably tell, but when Sprint sends them back they just throw them in a big box. The point of accountability is at the store where you exchange for another one. So either odin back to stock or short out the hardware and sprint will be none the wiser.
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Top Nurse said:
Some older phones used to have flash counters, and I don't know if the epic has one. Typically they are buried deep in inaccessible areas and I doubt that any sprint store would have the wherewithal to get at it. I'm sure that Samsung could probably tell, but when Sprint sends them back they just throw them in a big box. The point of accountability is at the store where you exchange for another one. So either odin back to stock or short out the hardware and sprint will be none the wiser.
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Yeah, there is actually a code that you can bring up to see if the phone is a refurb'd or not. I did that on mine and it was definately new.

Thanks for all the replies.
Rooted today using this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=808103
No problems.
Now if only there was a Gingerbread ROM...

Ryjabo said:
Now if only there was a Gingerbread ROM...
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Don't even start

Darkk69 said:
Yeah, there is actually a code that you can bring up to see if the phone is a refurb'd or not. I did that on mine and it was definately new.
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I did too and with the code check it shows new but hey do you believe that I don't cuz if we can make the phone looks unrooted with Odin they can make their own phone to appear as brand new.
dito33
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[Q] Damage By Flashing?

Hello, I'm new to the whole Android thing, but I managed to recently root my Shift, and I can attest to the addictive properties of trying out ROMS/Kernels and all that good stuff. But I was worried about the idea of all this flashing I'm doing, as in the month or so I've been rooted I've flashed about four ROMS, messed up a few times, done a good 5 or 6 Nandroid restores/backups. I was just curios to know if this is excessive, or if this could damage my phone in any way. Thanks for any help guys!
P.S., I apologize if this is either in the wrong thread, or has already been answered >_< I'm still a young'un

As far as I know by flashing a lot you can damage the relationship with your wife or g/f due to spending a lot of time doing it.. besides that I believe that the only way you can damage your phone is due to a bad flash or flashing something that wasn't exactly supported by the Shift.

I recall this discussion back when I had a TouchPro2, I don't know if it applies to the Shift as well but I assume it does. From my understanding it was determined by people far more informed than me that flashing would eventually wear out the NAND memory...but it would take more flashes than even the most fiendish flashaholic could complete in the phones lifetime to do. This is what I know from discussions of a past phone, I'm not claiming anything about the lifetime of the phone and take no responsibility if you flash 5000 ROMS tonight and your NAND burns out. lol

I think the only way you can actually brick your phone from flashing is if you flash a bad ratio from like a gsm carrier to a cdma phone. Might be wrong. Cause even if you flash a bad rom as long as you have a working recovery you can always just reflash a new rom or ruu

I think his underlying question may have to do with the fact that every NAND flash memory module has a limited number of writes in its lifetime before it can't write another bit and tell whether or not the module is in the 0 or 1 state.
This is also why data2ext/apps2ext etc anything that constantly writes information to your SD card will also degrade the lifetime of the SD card.
Basically yes, in principle the number of times you write new data to the phone's built-in memory, you shave off another write from its life. But I don't think this is significant at all. Just as a reference, I'm sure there are people with the original G1 who have flashed a countless number of times over several years and still have it working.

^^This.
If it gives you peace of mind, think about how many times a ROM chef's phone gets flashed in its lifetime and usually if the phone dies it's on account of flashing something experimental that bricks the phone (wrong radio, etc.) I've never heard of someones NAND actually burning out. I flashed my TouchPro and TouchPro2 quite literally hundreds of times if that makes you feel better.

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As far as I know by flashing a lot you can damage the relationship with your wife or g/f due to spending a lot of time doing it.. besides that I believe that the only way you can damage your phone is due to a bad flash or flashing something that wasn't exactly supported by the Shift.
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THIS. Main danger.
^ Shift Faced

jesusice said:
THIS. Main danger.
^ Shift Faced
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Agreed!
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Thanks for all the answers, you guys are great I really appreciate your help. You're replies have put my mind at ease seeing as my level of flashing honestly doesn't seem that excessive compared to that of a developer's.
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On my HeroC I changed roms two to three times a week. When CM6 came out, it was everyday (with full wipe) thanks to the nightlies. Then aosp started releasing his stuff in IRC yada yada.
My heroc made it well over a year of that torture. My wife did as well, barely.

2 Questions. Are any 2.3 Roms working 100%; how long do you thing Vibrant will.....

Hey guys, So I have 2 questions.
1. Ive been on 2.2/2.2.1 roms for 6 or so months. Ive tried most of them. It seems most new roms being released and updated are 2.3 Gingerbread roms. Are any of them working 100%? (GPS and everything)? Is there any real difference you guys can tell between 2.2 and 2.3 roms, regarding speed, and features? If so, do I have to flash Gingerbread boot loaders (is the process different then just putting on internal and flashing like I do with 2.2 roms)?
2. How long do you guys think that tmobile will have replacement Vibrants in stock? When doing warranty replacements, they are still replacing with Vibrants. my guess is since they are making new Vibrants anymore, they will have to start replacing warranty exchanges with other devices; like galaxy S 4g and hopefully Sensations... you guys have any ideas how long they will still have Vibrants before they have to exchange it for something else?

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Hey guys, So I have 2 questions.
1. Ive been on 2.2/2.2.1 roms for 6 or so months. Ive tried most of them. It seems most new roms being released and updated are 2.3 Gingerbread roms. Are any of them working 100%? (GPS and everything)? Is there any real difference you guys can tell between 2.2 and 2.3 roms, regarding speed, and features? If so, do I have to flash Gingerbread boot loaders (is the process different then just putting on internal and flashing like I do with 2.2 roms)?
2. How long do you guys think that tmobile will have replacement Vibrants in stock? When doing warranty replacements, they are still replacing with Vibrants. my guess is since they are making new Vibrants anymore, they will have to start replacing warranty exchanges with other devices; like galaxy S 4g and hopefully Sensations... you guys have any ideas how long they will still have Vibrants before they have to exchange it for something else?
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Well...
1. None of the 2.3 ROM's can be said to have 100% working GPS IMHO. When it works it works and when it doesn't it doesn't. I've read a few posts on how to make it work more often but have more or less given up and am sticking with Project-V until we see a 2.3 leak or official ROM.
2. Your phone warranty is a year, right? So, if you break your phone more than a year into the purchase aren't you going to have to replace it with another one on your own dime? the point I'm making is that most all of the warranties will be expired by the time T-Mobile even gets close to running out of refurbished Vibrants to exchange broken ones with... and, as another example on this subject - I can still get hard drives for HP and Dell servers which are 7-10 years old now. They're original equipment, have just been refurbished. T-Mobile will likely always keep a few refurbished Vibrant's around...

I've been running the CyanogenMod 7 nightly since built #30, and all I can say is it's gotten better and better.
There is a GPS fix that is really easy to apply and my GPS now locks within 30 second everytime, all the time. GPS problems are no more, and i've been using it for about a week now without a hitch so it's not just a fluke. Look on the development section you'll see stuff on working GPS fix.
As for changing to the gingerbread loader, when you go into CWM and update to something like CM7, it will automatically update it for you, you would just do a data wipe and install it like any other rom.
As for T-Mobile running out of vibrants. Sure its certainly possible. Will they...? Depends on how many they still have and how many people break theirs..
The replacement more than likely would be the Vibrant 4G... which would be a bummer because nobody wants that thing.

thanks for your response guys. I really appreciate it.
one more question, anyone have any idea which department, at tmobile, has more authority; Customer loyalty or Retentions? or are they the same dept? Tmobile really frustrated me yesterday and I want to call back today, but not sure which dept to talk to....Ive had 2 lines with them for over 5 years, but Im afraid they are already turning into att and it will only get worse with the merger.
---For example, several times in the last couple of years they have changed my rate plan very easily without signing a new contract. they have just changed it without problem. I tried to do it yesterday and they said now they have a policy that they will not change a rate plan without signing a contract (im not under contract). they can add features, but wont actually let me change my number of minutes or anything without signing a new contract......like they have in the past.....It has me really frustrated since i have 2 lines with texts and data with them for over 5 yrs and never a late pmt.
so any idea which dept, Retentions or Loyalty?

Anyone know diff between loyalty and customer retentions? Or are they the.same?
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thanks for your response guys. I really appreciate it.
one more question, anyone have any idea which department, at tmobile, has more authority; Customer loyalty or Retentions? or are they the same dept? Tmobile really frustrated me yesterday and I want to call back today, but not sure which dept to talk to....Ive had 2 lines with them for over 5 years, but Im afraid they are already turning into att and it will only get worse with the merger.
---For example, several times in the last couple of years they have changed my rate plan very easily without signing a new contract. they have just changed it without problem. I tried to do it yesterday and they said now they have a policy that they will not change a rate plan without signing a contract (im not under contract). they can add features, but wont actually let me change my number of minutes or anything without signing a new contract......like they have in the past.....It has me really frustrated since i have 2 lines with texts and data with them for over 5 yrs and never a late pmt.
so any idea which dept, Retentions or Loyalty?
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Miui revamped has GPS working
Vibrant+MIUI

Is the battery issue with the phone charging still present in the GB builds?

Dougefresh91 said:
Is the battery issue with the phone charging still present in the GB builds?
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If ur talking about not being able to hit 100 then yes that is fixed
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kboater said:
Anyone know diff between loyalty and customer retentions? Or are they the.same?
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anyone??????? which dept has more power to help retain long time customers? or are they the same dept???

Its been a good run.

Well, after some misinformed past rumors, I am finally leaving the Evo. I make this thread not because I feel like I'm 'important' or that anyone will care, but because of the community. Despite the past ICS fallout between users and developers, the Evo community has been one of the best on XDA, and can say that it was nice being apart of it. Made some good friends, and a few enemies, but comes with the territory. I'll still pop in from time to time, but I know I will see some of you in my new home, the Galaxy S III [will be here tomorrow]. Do keep the Evo name standing, as its a great device.

See ya around You know where to find me if you need anything...hahahaha

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See ya around You know where to find me if you need anything...hahahaha
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Oh yea. I'm on the grid...just a different sector.

Well, I'm stuck with an Evo for 6 more months, so I doubt I'll be on the GSIII next, but good times here, mate and thx for everything!

HipKat said:
Well, I'm stuck with an Evo for 6 more months, so I doubt I'll be on the GSIII next, but good times here, mate and thx for everything!
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And the same to you man, you got me on my feet so I could actually 'talk' about MIUI, instead taking a back seat educated speculation.

gtfo noob juust messing i'll be over shortly

Awwww, this makes me sad. I haven't been around much anyway, but I'll still miss you
If I ever happen to be on GTalk, hit me up. I doubt I'll be moving to the S III, but I am eligible for an upgrade so don't know... haven't really done my research yet. Send me a message and let me know how you like it once you've got it broken in.
Even if we don't have the same device, I'm sure I'll see you around. You've taught me a lot, even when you didn't realize it, and no one else has been as nice to me as you have, so thank you.

plainjane said:
Awwww, this makes me sad. I haven't been around much anyway, but I'll still miss you
If I ever happen to be on GTalk, hit me up. I doubt I'll be moving to the S III, but I am eligible for an upgrade so don't know... haven't really done my research yet. Send me a message and let me know how you like it once you've got it broken in.
Even if we don't have the same device, I'm sure I'll see you around. You've taught me a lot, even when you didn't realize it, and no one else has been as nice to me as you have, so thank you.
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No need to be sad, and you can always hit me up on gtalk when you're on. You've got a ton of gold stars now, I've lost count. And I've seen you helping others, when you may not have thought me around. And you're very welcome, I'm glad to hear that...made me smile.
I'm still going to be around here, as I have a horded amount of knowledge...this was my first smart phone, and I think I made a great choice. I'll definitely let you know about the review, and can send you spec info.

plainjane said:
Awwww, this makes me sad. I haven't been around much anyway, but I'll still miss you
If I ever happen to be on GTalk, hit me up. I doubt I'll be moving to the S III, but I am eligible for an upgrade so don't know... haven't really done my research yet. Send me a message and let me know how you like it once you've got it broken in.
Even if we don't have the same device, I'm sure I'll see you around. You've taught me a lot, even when you didn't realize it, and no one else has been as nice to me as you have, so thank you.
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Yeah! Where the hell HAVE you been?? (In my nicest voice)

If you're keeping your Evo you can be like me and be a forum whore lol. I'm on 7 sub forums right now, but only following on a few of them and active on 3. Mostly lurk on the others just for info. You can add me on gtalk of ya want my donation email in my profile is my gtalk name, if u got any questions about Samsung feel free to hit me up. Flashing and such is a little different than HTC and will take some time and questions to get the hang of. Got recovery, Odin and mobile Odin for your flashing needs, no more ruu's and no more unlocking bootloaders with an exploit. Odin takes care of those areas. :beer:
We are legion, for we are many.

-EViL-KoNCEPTz- said:
If you're keeping your Evo you can be like me and be a forum whore lol. I'm on 7 sub forums right now, but only following on a few of them and active on 3. Mostly lurk on the others just for info. You can add me on gtalk of ya want my donation email in my profile is my gtalk name, if u got any questions about Samsung feel free to hit me up. Flashing and such is a little different than HTC and will take some time and questions to get the hang of. Got recovery, Odin and mobile Odin for your flashing needs, no more ruu's and no more unlocking bootloaders with an exploit. Odin takes care of those areas. :beer:
We are legion, for we are many.
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Oh yea, can do. And actually won't keep the evo [in my possession]; sending it home to my dad. He's on an optimus S and hates it, so big upgrade for him, and will do more than it needs for him. I'm actually pretty good with Odin, rooted a Galaxy S for this girl not too long ago. Odin is different, but its not bad once you get used to it, and mobile odin and triangle away do seem like a good investment.

add me on gtalk anytime, bro
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Breaks my heart. The guy that enlightened me in the ways of android and taught me everything I know and answered all my dumb question is finally.moving on . I might be joining you also on the gs3 when I have my upgrade in november. Good thing about getting a new phone is meeting and getting to know all the new people in that phones sub forum. So best of luck to you in your journey to a new galaxy
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HipKat said:
add me on gtalk anytime, bro
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*Salutes* Shall do
evo4gnoob said:
Breaks my heart. The guy that enlightened me in the ways of android and taught me everything I know and answered all my dumb question is finally.moving on . I might be joining you also on the gs3 when I have my upgrade in november. Good thing about getting a new phone is meeting and getting to know all the new people in that phones sub forum. So best of luck to you in your journey to a new galaxy
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No worries man; you've learned a lot. And I'm still gona be here to help out. I'm free this weekend, you can pwn me in some MW3...lol. And you'll have some friends waiting for you.
But at this moment *new futurama*

teh roxxorz said:
Oh yea, can do. And actually won't keep the evo [in my possession]; sending it home to my dad. He's on an optimus S and hates it, so big upgrade for him, and will do more than it needs for him. I'm actually pretty good with Odin, rooted a Galaxy S for this girl not too long ago. Odin is different, but its not bad once you get used to it, and mobile odin and triangle away do seem like a good investment.
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Best investment you can make on a galaxy device man, should be the first apps you purchase once you decide you're keeping the device. Yea Odin is a bit tricky at first, the things you'll probably have more questions with are the dreaded brick bug(idk if the sgs3 is plagued with that nuisance or not, I hope not) and how to avoid it, since its a permabrick if it hits you. The whole method of doing stuff on Samsung is just alien when coming from HTC. Took me a few weeks b4 I was back to flashing like a junkie again with out reading and rereading every step over and over prior to trying something new. I've had a few months with the sgs2 now so if you have questions about samsungs whole crazy zimage/recovery and how recovery is baked into the kernel and changes every time you change kernels I'm more than happy to answer em the best I can or point you in the direction of your answers atleast. :thumbup:
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-EViL-KoNCEPTz- said:
Best investment you can make on a galaxy device man, should be the first apps you purchase once you decide you're keeping the device. Yea Odin is a bit tricky at first, the things you'll probably have more questions with are the dreaded brick bug(idk if the sgs3 is plagued with that nuisance or not, I hope not) and how to avoid it, since its a permabrick if it hits you. The whole method of doing stuff on Samsung is just alien when coming from HTC. Took me a few weeks b4 I was back to flashing like a junkie again with out reading and rereading every step over and over prior to trying something new. I've had a few months with the sgs2 now so if you have questions about samsungs whole crazy zimage/recovery and how recovery is baked into the kernel and changes every time you change kernels I'm more than happy to answer em the best I can or point you in the direction of your answers atleast. :thumbup:
We are legion, for we are many.
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Much appreciated man, and actually been doing some reason: the kernel and boot image on the G S III were separated so its actually a lot safer to root. In addition I've looked up the G S III root [international version] and actually QUITE painless, even using Odin. Since there were minimal hardware specs, aside from processor of course, but I believe the root will be the same or extremely similar. I originally was going to buy the original galaxy S, but I refused to get the epic with a hard keyboard, so I went with the Evo; though not like it was a bad choice.

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Much appreciated man, and actually been doing some reason: the kernel and boot image on the G S III were separated so its actually a lot safer to root. In addition I've looked up the G S III root [international version] and actually QUITE painless, even using Odin. Since there were minimal hardware specs, aside from processor of course, but I believe the root will be the same or extremely similar. I originally was going to buy the original galaxy S, but I refused to get the epic with a hard keyboard, so I went with the Evo; though not like it was a bad choice.
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That's cool they seperated the kernel from the recovery now, on the ET4G there's no normal boot.img its called a zImage and has the kernel and recovery in the same partition so flashing a kernel changes your recovery. It can get quite confusing going from rom to rom and build to build and having to remember which recovery which backup was made with so you can Odin it to restore we still don't have official ICS or kernel source yet so flashing ICS roms requires first flashing a GB kernel with pure CWM to avoid a blue light of death brick. Talk about confusing, it took me a week of reading before I had the balls to try ICS but now I can mOdin el26+cwm kernel and flash ICS in my sleep. I've been running aokp since march never went back to gb except the few times I bootlooped and had to Odin to el29(latest GB ota) and start fresh. Once you get a feel for it and get any questions you have lingering out of the way its painless but the first few times you're sweating missles waiting to it to flash and boot and praying you didn't just brick, LOL. My first venture to ICS I chewed off all my nails while flashing it, I was so nervous I forgot something and was gonna fry my eMMC chip and be bricked.
ETA: what's even worse for me is I have 4 different manufacturers devices all different methods of flashing and its hard keeping it all straight, going from HTC, to Amazon to Motorola to Samsung and trying to remember which one you flash how is an exercise in frustration :banghead:
We are legion, for we are many.

-EViL-KoNCEPTz- said:
Best investment you can make on a galaxy device man, should be the first apps you purchase once you decide you're keeping the device. Yea Odin is a bit tricky at first, the things you'll probably have more questions with are the dreaded brick bug(idk if the sgs3 is plagued with that nuisance or not, I hope not) and how to avoid it, since its a permabrick if it hits you. The whole method of doing stuff on Samsung is just alien when coming from HTC. Took me a few weeks b4 I was back to flashing like a junkie again with out reading and rereading every step over and over prior to trying something new. I've had a few months with the sgs2 now so if you have questions about samsungs whole crazy zimage/recovery and how recovery is baked into the kernel and changes every time you change kernels I'm more than happy to answer em the best I can or point you in the direction of your answers atleast. :thumbup:
We are legion, for we are many.
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Having dev'd on the Moment, I remember the zimage! Actually the best way to work with adding a kernel to a ROM

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Having dev'd on the Moment, I remember the zimage! Actually the best way to work with adding a kernel to a ROM
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Its just a pain in the ass for recovery, only because every time you change kernels if the new one has a different recovery your recovery then changes. On the et4g we have cwm, rogue and acs custom recoveries, and not all backups are compatible across all recoveries so you gotta try and keep track of what goes with what since we have to use the el26 kernel with pure cwm recovery to safely flash ICS without bricking I use it for everything recovery, but that requires me to Odin the el26 kernel everytime I need to do something in recovery and since I run ICS I then have to flash an ICS kernel to reboot my phone. Its more of a hassle/annoyance than anything just cuz of all the extra steps required to flash/backup etc
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