Interesting article - Sprint LTE capped at 2mbps, and slow LTE rollout? - Networking

http://blogs.barrons.com/techtrader...-on-iphone-lte-prospect/?mod=google_news_blog
The article basically states given the Sprint LTE spectrum, there is pretty much a 2mbps limit.
I was going to upgrade to an LTE phone in June because I heard LTE was right around the corner, but if it's going to be anything like the Wimax rollout, then I might just eat the unlimited data loss, and hope verizon rolls around with the 4GB data package again soon. In the past 2 years, I've used on average 600mb to 1gb per month.
What do you guys think. Anyone with a contract expiring soon, or anyone in general have any opinions?

I think caping data limits is gunna be a big hit to sprint. All most all of my friends who have sprint have it because of the unlimited data. Theyll loose a lot of customers
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Sprint is horrible around my area.. I guess it could get worse.

They've already publicly announce they will not have caps whatsoever. Unlimited 4g LTE (just dont torrent / hotspot ~ tether).
+ the only thing they they got is their unlimited data plans anyways. Kill that and you will kill the customer base and they know it.

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AT&T LTE Unlimted Data

Well the AT&T website has been updated and the HTC Vivid is available (though only in black) but the option for unlimited data for those that can grandfather are there, woohoo!
Yay!!!!! Wish I still had my unlimited account.....what other data options are there?
Great news!
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200MB for $15
2GB for $25
4GB with tethering for $45
if you think about it, it makes sense a little, since in most areas is no lte yet
no!!!!!!
2gb cap cruising at 400KB/s to 5MB/s is no good!!!
I wonder if they will throttle lte for unlimited peeps
I wish verizon and at&t would keep lte unlimited since it offloads traffic off their normal network (like 2gb 3g/unlimited lte)
I think the throttle cap is 5GB, I usually go over 3.5-4GB / mo and I see no throttle.
By the way, I have grandfathered unlimited.
I myself rarely if ever go over 2gb but its nice to not have to worry, and I'm lucky enough to live in a LTE area.
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Got SGS2 LTE on AT&T yesterday and I'm officially grandfathered into LTE unlimited data.
Happy camper, smoking fast phone!
There's no cap on the unlimited data, they just go by the top 2% or so.
Really, you would have to know data statistics in your city to know when you'll be throttled.

Why bother with LTE?

So now that the front end radio speeds are 50mb/s, we'll hit our 2gbit limit in like 1 hour vs 20 days - yet make a very impressive speedtest. Yawn. I'm sorry, guys. This circa-1980 2GB limit thing has just got to go. ATT and Ver blames it on their lack of backhaul capacity (towers to internet). Perhaps their inability to police full time tethering. Perhaps a cash rich executive bureaucracy that rivals the gov't. Remember, they're STILL the phone company.
Even if you have unlimited, they'll sniff packets and start the clock on you anyway. "No way you can use more than 2GB of local phone-only data if you're not tethering" they cry. Even the tethering plan is a limited, overly complex structured rate plan also. For those of you that've figured a way around these lobbyist-inspired rate plans then more power to you. But for the other 99% of us, a 2mb radio will just have to do.
Believe me, Ver and ATT are lawyering-up as we speak to deal with the upcoming onslaught from you LTE heathens.
In any event, why bother with LTE?
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buckwheat.phd said:
Even if you have unlimited, they'll sniff packets and start the clock on you anyway. "No way you can use more than 2GB of local phone-only data if you're not tethering" they cry. Even the tethering plan is a limited, overly complex structured rate plan also. For those of you that've figured a way around these lobbyist-inspired rate plans then more power to you. But for the other 99% of us, a 2mb radio will just have to do.
Believe me, Ver and ATT are lawyering-up as we speak to deal with the upcoming onslaught from you LTE heathens.
In any event, why bother with LTE?
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I've had unlimited LTE on Verizon since March and still seeing 60mbps download speeds. No throttling. Just purchased first AT&T LTE smartphone SGS2 LTE Skyrocket, grandfathering unlimited data into my LTE device. Can't wait to test LTE here in NYC.
Internet experience is all I'm doing on my phone and the last thing that I want is to crawl.
LTE all the way!

switching to 4G verizon

so i have a question im under contract right now with a unlimited data plan for my 3g xperia play that i got back in june of this year well im gonna go buy a Samsung stratosphere tomorrow new from a store with out a contract (as im in one right now) and my question is will my unlimited data plan switch over to 4g unlimited even though im still on contract?
Yes you can. Part of me wished that I could be on the verzion unlimited data plan but then even when LTE came it did not blow me away vs h+. I would NOT buy any one core LTE phone, becuase you will not likey see any real change in web speed.
I would wait for the G-nexus if I were you. ( All there phones on the big red seem to "lag" vs my SGS2.) I think it's all the crap they put on there phones.
Your mileage may vary, but I thought my 8-15mbps H+ speeds were amazing until I saw ****ty LTE phones consistently hitting between 20-30mbps. Almost seems worth ditching Tmo... Almost.
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right now in des moines ia i am getting around 15-25mb download speed and 5-7 upload speed, downloads are fast.... i think i might ditch my 1.5meg dsl internet that is 40$ a month....
i know the big red is watching people now with all the wifi tether and stuff but who on here allways pass the 8gigs every month? i used almost 3 gigs in one day and i didnt even do anything
TJBunch1228 said:
Your mileage may vary, but I thought my 8-15mbps H+ speeds were amazing until I saw ****ty LTE phones consistently hitting between 20-30mbps. Almost seems worth ditching Tmo... Almost.
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If caps is why then you should look at this:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1370720

Sprint threatening letter! Not really unlimited...

Just got a letter from Sprint, telling me control my internet usage within 10 days.... Otherwise they will kick me out. Sprint MOD EDIT: WATCH YOUR LANGUAJE, don't advertise as unlimited and then send these threatening letters to your customers.
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Thats why I left sprint...they crippled...errr completely removed tethering from my Palm device. I used to be able to tether via bluetooth, then one day was greeted with a message to contact CS. when i called to inquire about the loss of functionality, they told me that they now only offer that service functionality for their new top of the line devices (at the time was the Evo 4G). I told them that they need to change the name of the "Simple Everything Data" Plan, to the "Almost Everything Data" Plan. I was so angry I broke contract and canceled service right then and went to TMO. I 2nd what you say about sprint.
They only send that letter if you abuse roaming (which is outlined in your ToS) they do not send the letter if you overuse sprints network
Thanks for trying, stop trying to sound innocent and making sprint look like the bad guy
Have you ever heard of a fair use policy?
Sprints network has very little bandwidth 3G wise due to using outdated tech, so if your a heavy user on 3G it affects their other users.
This is the easiest way out of any contract download several gigs of data (while roaming) in a few days on your phone and they will gladly kill your contract for you.**
Personally I bought roam control (for CDMA only) for my phone just so I could force it to roam (in my valley sprint service sucks) so while I'm home I force it to use Verizon's network which as you might guess makes Sprint real happy
-Ice
**I suppose I should add that I do not endorse this method for getting out of your contract & trying this method may end badly (500 page long multi-thousand dollar bill) if they catch on to what your doing.
lol, you must be using a lot of data!
MrLadoodle said:
Have you ever heard of a fair use policy?
Sprints network has very little bandwidth 3G wise due to using outdated tech, so if your a heavy user on 3G it affects their other users.
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Fair use means that if i am sold something as unlimited i should use it in that way.
That so call fair use policy is only fair on Sprint and T-mobile not on customers which are the ones that pay the monthly fee,and the reason why those companies exist,without me and you and the other sprint is just a bunch of empty useless antennas.
Is not my fault that they use outdated tech,in fact when i bought my Epic 4G touch 2 days ago no one from Sprint told me their network was as slow as 1998 DSL connections,and that their tech was outdated and that their wimax network is nothing but fake crap that only very few people can take advantage of.
They told me the phone was great and that the network was fast,not to mention the whole 4G crap hipping.
The only problem i see here is Sprint fault not his fault,is not his fault that Sprint used outdated tech i am sure no one when he bough the phone told him,hey we have and old crappy network so don't use it to much,even that is the only one advertised as ""Truly"" Unlimited and uncapped.
pretty lame company, offer you "unlimited" then complain you are downloading too much WTF
I don't understand why 'unlimited' is supposed to be Sprint's big selling point. Their 3G speeds are pathetic in most places, and even when the coverage map shows you squarely under 4G, you probably won't get it--especially if you're inside any sort of building, or God forbid, in a car.
I personally wanted 5GB of fast, reliable bandwidth than all you can eat crap, so I left.
I worked in a Sprint store before, and even before that, I received one of these letters. As someone stated above, it only applies to roaming, which costs them a lot of money once you pass your allowed amounts. They have an agreement with Verizon and roaming (and Verizon has one with Sprint). The rules are:
- 300 MB of roaming
- More than half of your minutes used for 3 consecutive months are roaming minutes
- Most of your text messaging (although I'm not sure on this one)
Chances are, you're either using a PRL hack, Roam Control (which is now off the Market I believe), or you just live in an area with ****ty Sprint signal. If the latter is the case, just save yourself the trouble and switch to another provider.
Haven't had any problems with sprint other than hitting their bandwidth throttle. Seemed to limit my down rates to 300Kb/s at first then just cripple to a trickle after that.
Did you have a high spike in usage? Did you move into a highly populated area?
These could be why. For example; 25GB, 41GB, 33GB, 44GB; Those are my usages for the last 4 billing cycles. I transfer a lot of data over wifi, my home network, and other networks. Along with solely high quality video and audio [MOG, Rhapsody] streams. I've never received a letter or complaint.
Just got a letter from sprint saying exactly what the OP said. Not roaming but "unlimited data" usage. I'm always on 4g and I used about 109gb of data this month. They said if I don't control it they will terminate my contract. That's a lot of data I know but unlimited is unlimited!!! F them!
inflewence said:
Just got a letter from sprint saying exactly what the OP said. Not roaming but "unlimited data" usage. I'm always on 4g and I used about 109gb of data this month. They said if I don't control it they will terminate my contract. That's a lot of data I know but unlimited is unlimited!!! F them!
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Even I would argue against you dude. 109GB is an insane amount. They mean unlimited to a reasonable amount. My friend goes to 60GB and doesn't get warned. You must've went crazy with your data to make them warn you.
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If it does happen, just start up a prepaid number somewhere and port it out. Then port it back into Sprint. They have no say then.
just to clarify, as I work for sprint currently:
Updating your PRL does nothing, other than tell the phone which towers have lower roaming costs. (on sprint)
Verizon doesn't roam on any network. (I was a verizon manager as well) If you have a vzw phone, you won't roam at all.
If your using 109 gb's a month and complaining about sprint saying something to you, I would reccommend getting an actual home internet connection instead of using it for tethering so much.
As far as the roaming stuff, yes, if you roam a ton while with sprint, they can release you from the contract, but its not an automatic thing. A lot of times you will have to call cs a few times (because sprint CS sucks, and are a bunch of morons usually) and have them pull the account and see how much you are roaming and how many dropped calls, ect, are.
jman42028 said:
just to clarify, as I work for sprint currently:
Updating your PRL does nothing, other than tell the phone which towers have lower roaming costs. (on sprint)
Verizon doesn't roam on any network. (I was a verizon manager as well) If you have a vzw phone, you won't roam at all.
If your using 109 gb's a month and complaining about sprint saying something to you, I would reccommend getting an actual home internet connection instead of using it for tethering so much.
As far as the roaming stuff, yes, if you roam a ton while with sprint, they can release you from the contract, but its not an automatic thing. A lot of times you will have to call cs a few times (because sprint CS sucks, and are a bunch of morons usually) and have them pull the account and see how much you are roaming and how many dropped calls, ect, are.
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I was a technician at both Sprint and Verizon and I can tell you Verizon roams on Sprint. It happens a lot on my campus.
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Oh, sweet. This argument again. Please read the 'unlimited' agreement you have with Sprint. Please note the conditions which apply. Please note what specific data activities you are permitted in the agreement. Note also the prohibited activities. Finally, pay close attention to the bottom of this contract where you electronically signed and acknowledged/agreed to all the conditions which they are well within their rights to enforce.
109gb of data is quite a bit. How does one's handheld use that much data in a month?
Imaginos said:
Oh, sweet. This argument again. Please read the 'unlimited' agreement you have with Sprint. Please note the conditions which apply. Please note what specific data activities you are permitted in the agreement. Note also the prohibited activities. Finally, pay close attention to the bottom of this contract where you electronically signed and acknowledged/agreed to all the conditions which they are well within their rights to enforce.
109gb of data is quite a bit. How does one's handheld use that much data in a month?
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Tethering, obviously. I'm ok with tethering to a reasonable amount (ie to browse the web for a little while when there's no connection), or even to download a couple of gigs (on 4G) but 109GB is ridiculous and I side with Sprint in this case.
Verizon throttled me for using 89GB ONE time, and then throttled me at 12gb. Now I have only used 5GB on my verizon phone so they don't come down with the throttle hamer of doom. Just giving a heads up that verizon is not true unlimited.
Proof:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCbvDEewcJU&feature=channel&list=UL
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Have any other US T-mobile users got the free unlimited data plan?

Hi. I am user of T-mobile's prepaid plan until recently. I accidentally got an unlimited data plan on my mytouch 4G back in a year ago. What happen was I had the 15 dollars unlimited text plan, and I ordered one dollar day pass (not availble anymore) when I traveled. I then activated the T-mobile TV, and I didn't like it, so I unsubscribed it. That's when I realized I could still use data after the day pass was over. I could browse internet, even open hot spot, without purchasing additional features and it was faster than the day pass, which only offered slower connect. I tested the speed by connecting my phone to my laptop and it downloads movies faster than my comcast internet...when the connection is good, it sometimes could download a movie at 7MB per second...which was fantastic.
I am wondering if anyone ever had experience like mine. My company pays for my phone bills now so I don't use my old number anymore...and I am curious to find out if this was a commonly known hacking trick.
i'm on the 1000 value plan that gives me 2gb 4g throttled but techincally its unlimited for $10 extra
You're so lucky. I'm on AT&T and missed my chance for unlimited data. And 7MB? I barely get over 1MB with the wifi in my house. That's crazy for phone speeds.
You think that's crazy here in Canada we have a 42mbps HSPA+ network AND and LTE network with the same carrier so my friends Optimus LTE can get 60~ on LTE and 30~ on HSPA+
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