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Hi, i am in the uk and had my i9505 for around 2 weeks, just wondering the best way to now root and is there anyway which is the safest / recommended?
also, can rom's still be updated afterwards via ota or kies if i root, i know i would have to root again but would my phone still be supported by kies and look for new fw's after rooting?
thanks
james
Personally, I use the pre-rooted stock roms in the Android Development section:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2250824
Very easy to use, just download and flash via Odin3. There may be easier ways, but for me this is the easiest.
All you need to do then is flash custom recovery and you're done.
Edit: Not sure about Kies, but it's easy enough to flash back to a stock rom and then reset your phone to Official again.
Some custom roms offer OTA updates, but personally, I prefer just staying on a stock rooted and update via Odin as and when needed
Thanks for the reply, if I flash the pre rooted Rom will it wipe my phone or will settings and apps still be the same afterwards?
james_lpool said:
Thanks for the reply, if I flash the pre rooted Rom will it wipe my phone or will settings and apps still be the same afterwards?
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If you install pre rooted rom, all your apps, settings etc will remain. Odin3 doesn't touch the data partition, so you'll still have everything.
I usually clear cache/data after installing a new rom, so I start from fresh, but it's really upto you really
One thing to be aware of though is that flashing a pre-rooted rom will clear your custom recovery, so you'll have to reflash recovery after installing an updated pre-rooted rom
Guys i was looking for some installation guide but im not sure, if i found the right one. http://forum.xda-developers.com/gala...-roms-t2852310
I have stock 4.4.4 (firmware GNJ8). Is there someone who will not be ofended by noob question and show me some right guide how to flash this GPE rom ? I mean what do i need ? Root (which one?), recovery (which TWRP or CWM (throw CMW manager?)) and something else ? We do not use any knox features in our work, so that should not be a problem.
Thank you for any tips.
Firstly, the provided link does not work. 404 Page not found.
GNJ8..what s4 version is that?
I used CF-Auto-Root to root my s4. But this method does not work on all s4 versions so make sure you read carefully. The third post says on what model of the s4 it works. The thread can be found here.
I use TWRP. CWM just wouldn't flash on my device. Or, if it flashed, it didn't boot into CWM recovery. Kept booting into stock recovery. So I tried flashing TWRP and this one worked so I stick with it.
Make sure that it's the latest firmware for your device. And note that if you're on lollipop, you can't downgrade to kitkat anymore. So you will be stuck on the limited selection of lollipop roms for now.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4/general/guide-how-to-install-custom-roms-t2852310
sorry for the link.
GNJ8 - European snapdragon version (GT i9505) bought in O2.
CF Auto Root is good idea.
"Make sure that it's the latest firmware for your device." means what exactly ? I have the latest 4.4.4 official stock firmware...
You realize that going from stock to GPE will trip knox, right? Any custom rom or bootloader will trip the knox flag
1. Flash TWRP or Philz recovery true Odin.
2. Wipe data (prepare for new rom) in the recovery.
3. Flash the rom you want with the recovery.
It's as simple as that. You don't need root to do it.
Yep, i know about knox. I dont think i need it.
TWRP which version ? Wipe data/cache (no format /system or similar?) and flash custom rom ? not hard. In fact it sounds so easy that i cant believe What about some post about firmware that with some firmwares you have to do that and sometimes this...
skejpa said:
Yep, i know about knox. I dont think i need it.
TWRP which version ? Wipe data/cache (no format /system or similar?) and flash custom rom ? not hard. In fact it sounds so easy that i cant believe What about some post about firmware that with some firmwares you have to do that and sometimes this...
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Format system/data wipe of course before flashing a new rom. Pick the version for your phone from TWRP.
Ignore those posts about firmwares.
Hello
First let it be known that i have searched my butt off and tried many different things. The best i could get was a rooted phone and a non working safestrap install.
Can someone please give clear instructions here in this thread to either a) install safestrap on 4.4.2 nc4 or b) let me know if it's possible to install verizons stock lollipop firmware using odin (no recovery required).
I would love to get a working custom recovery to try different roms. Failing that, id love to know if it's possible to just flash stock lollipop firmware on this device.
I'm sorry to make such a request, as my first post.. But have been rooting and roming and xdaing since the Samsung vibrant. I'm just tired of trying to make this locked bootloader work. I must've tried a hundred different things.
As of right now ive odind back to 4.4.2 stock with nc4 kernel and said root, busybox, and supersu.
I'm familiar with odin, flashing, all the terminology, and can find the files on my own.
scottayy said:
Hello
First let it be known that i have searched my butt off and tried many different things. The best i could get was a rooted phone and a non working safestrap install.
Can someone please give clear instructions here in this thread to either a) install safestrap on 4.4.2 nc4 or b) let me know if it's possible to install verizons stock lollipop firmware using odin (no recovery required).
I would love to get a working custom recovery to try different roms. Failing that, id love to know if it's possible to just flash stock lollipop firmware on this device.
I'm sorry to make such a request, as my first post.. But have been rooting and roming and xdaing since the Samsung vibrant. I'm just tired of trying to make this locked bootloader work. I must've tried a hundred different things.
As of right now ive odind back to 4.4.2 stock with nc4 kernel and said root, busybox, and supersu.
I'm familiar with odin, flashing, all the terminology, and can find the files on my own.
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Yes..you can flash stock firmware for 5.0 via Odin. You will lose root and as of this time....can not root 5.0
once on 5.0, you can only odin back to 4.4.4 which is also unrootable.
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Yeah you can go back to 4.4.4 I've read post of people on this forum saying they were able to get back to 4.4.4 you need to download the stock tar. Which you can find on sammobile than boot into download mode and then open Odin flash the stock tar. After its done flashing Then boot into stock recovery and do factory data reset. Wait about 5-10mins and should boot you into 4.4.4
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Thanks for that. I'm sorry about the aggressive tone of my original post. I was just quite frankly mad at how much verizon locked the note 3 down. I own it, you know? Lol.
I wanted custom recovery mostly for the nandroid backups. If i flash the nc2 kernel on 4.4.2 with nc4 kernel... Supposedly this is supposed to make safestrap work with one rom slot (stock). I tried this but it soft bricked. Is there a custom nc2 kernel I'm supposed to flash?
Also if i odin the stock 5.0 files will this keep all user apps and data? I suppose i could use titanium backup for that but I'm not sure if it will be compatible from 4.4.2 to 5.0?
I guess i have to debate whether i want nandroid backup abilities or lollipop.
I'll start off explaining my situation and then explain what myself and lots of other people seem to be confused about.
I was on Kikat last week and then upgraded to PB1 and unlocked my bootloader using method 1 by jkruse. Everything went fine and I was running stang5litre. I wanted to try Phoenix but I could not find instructions on how to get to PD1 first. I then saw that I could go right from PB1 to CM 13. I booted to recovery, wiped, installed CM and gApps, and everything went fine also.
I know my baseband is still PB1 but I'm guessing since I'm on CM now that I'm not actually on any official build right? (PD1, PF4, etc). So with that being said I don't understand how to go to other ROMs or back to LP.
I tried going back to recovery, wiping, and installing stang5litre again but my phone would not boot past the Samsung screen. Guessing something with the kernel? Soni flashed back to CM for now and I've been reading like crazy on here.
I'm trying to understand the process for switching between LP and MM. I found instructions by jkruse in the Phoenix forum (post #68) which talk about upgrading/downgrading bootloader but they are not clear and also they specifically say "Upgrade To PD1 Stock Rooted Rom With PD1 Unlocked Bootloader From 5.0 TW Rom". Well I'm not on a 5.0 TW ROM now.
I've seen countless posts in multiple forums showing a lot of other people are confused about this stuff. If I had all the details (clear instructions, file links, etc) I would glady make a very easy to follow guide and explanation of everything. I'm good at writing out stuff like that and making it very easy to understand.
Some things I want to understand so I can make a guide..
-How to go from PB1 to stock rooted PD1 (I see a guide to get to PF4 but Phoenix says you need PD1)
-How to go from CM to stock rooted PD1
-How to go from CM back to stock rooted PB1
-How to go from PD1/PF4 back to stock rooted PB1 (this process might be the same as the process coming from CM?
Any help/explanation would be greatly appreciated. Some of this info might be scattered across different forums but I think a guide specifically for switching between all the builds would be a huge help to a lot of people. Please link files also. I will definitely give credit to all who help if I do get the info needed to make it!! Thanks!
Bumppp
If you need help finding these things maybe you shouldn't be making a guide....
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If you need help finding these things maybe you shouldn't be making a guide....
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Please dont bother commenting pointless stuff. I read these forums every day and see lots of people looking for clarification for how to go back and forth between MM and LP. Mainly how to go back to LP. You will also find threads and posts with people giving different instructions. Some say just flash the PD1 rooted stock in recovery.. some say that won't downgrade the bootloader..
Some say to follow Jkruses guide in the second post of the bootloader unlock thread. The part about going back and forth between bootloader's.. which is a way more complicated method. There is different information all over
I highly suggest you read the 2nd portion "If You Already Have Bootloader Unlocked And On A Samsung TW Rom" link.
I think the key you need to understand is that you have to match the bootloader version with the corresponding ROM you are trying to flash. PB1 is for LP ROM. PD1/PF4 is for MM ROM.
Having above said, here's my answer to your question below:
-How to go from PB1 to stock rooted PD1 (I see a guide to get to PF4 but Phoenix says you need PD1)
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Please follow the 2nd portion of the link above.
If you want to try Phoenix, then you can use the SafeStrap_PF4_Bootloader_Unlock_AIO.zip as jrkruse confirmed PF4 does work with it.
Upon complete the 2nd portion, then you can flash Phoenix's v12 ROM in TWRP directly.
-How to go from CM to stock rooted PD1
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First of all, find out which CM you are at. I assume you are at CM13, then you would need follow the same 2nd portion instruction again (using the PD1 Bootloader), then flash the stock PD1 rom in twrp.
-How to go from CM back to stock rooted PB1
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Same as above, except use PB1 bootloader in the process.
-How to go from PD1/PF4 back to stock rooted PB1 (this process might be the same as the process coming from CM?
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You are right, it is the same process.
I hope I cleared it out for you. If you are not sure where you are at, then I would suggest you odin the original PB1 image, root it, unlock bootloader, flash twrp, then follow the 2nd portion of the link.
ruokuo said:
I highly suggest you read the 2nd portion "If You Already Have Bootloader Unlocked And On A Samsung TW Rom" link.
I think the key you need to understand is that you have to match the bootloader version with the corresponding ROM you are trying to flash. PB1 is for LP ROM. PD1/PF4 is for MM ROM.
Having above said, here's my answer to your question below:
-How to go from PB1 to stock rooted PD1 (I see a guide to get to PF4 but Phoenix says you need PD1)
Please follow the 2nd portion of the link above.
If you want to try Phoenix, then you can use the SafeStrap_PF4_Bootloader_Unlock_AIO.zip as jrkruse confirmed PF4 does work with it.
Upon complete the 2nd portion, then you can flash Phoenix's v12 ROM in TWRP directly.
-How to go from CM to stock rooted PD1
First of all, find out which CM you are at. I assume you are at CM13, then you would need follow the same 2nd portion instruction again (using the PD1 Bootloader), then flash the stock PD1 rom in twrp.
-How to go from CM back to stock rooted PB1
Same as above, except use PB1 bootloader in the process.
-How to go from PD1/PF4 back to stock rooted PB1 (this process might be the same as the process coming from CM?
You are right, it is the same process.
I hope I cleared it out for you. If you are not sure where you are at, then I would suggest you odin the original PB1 image, root it, unlock bootloader, flash twrp, then follow the 2nd portion of the link.
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Thanks for the reply. I found instructions from Jkruse on page 7 in the Phoenix thread. That's why I am confused because there are so many methods scattered everywhere.
So here's what I tried and something went wrong already.
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Flashfire Method to Upgrade/Downgrade Your Bootloaders Dev Unlocked To Stock Roms
This Method Only Works If You Have A Dev Unlocked Bootloader Or Have Previously Unlocked Your Bootloader
I just want to add this warning. If you use this method you dont have the safety net that safestrap provides so if something goes wrong in this process you may end up with a unrooted phone and locked bootloaders causing you to have to start The whole rooting process over since you will not have safetrap to boot back into
Upgrade To PD1 Stock Rooted Rom With PD1 Unlocked Bootloader From 5.0 TW Rom With PB1 Unlocked Bootloaders
Download these 2 files and place on phone
PB1_Flashfire_Prepare.zip
PD1_Full_Firmware_With_Dev_Aboot_Twrp_Recovery_Ima ge.tar.zip
Reboot to TWRP and flash PB1_Flashfire_Prepare.zip
Reboot
Open Flashfire (It will be installed by the zip you flashed in TWRP) grant supersu permission
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. I rebooted to TWRP. Flashed the PB1_Flashfire_Prepare.zip and rebooted right away. I now had safestrap installed which I did not before. So I go to open it up and my screen goes white for a second and then just returns to the app drawer?? It will not open
So then I delete the file and figured maybe it was a.bad download. Downloaded it again and tried to boot to recovery but it went to stock recovery not TWRP.
So I have no clue what to do now. How can I get TWRP installed again? All I did was flash that one zip so idk what went wrong. I am on PB1 everything.
aholeinthewor1d said:
Thanks for the reply. I found instructions from Jkruse on page 7 in the Phoenix thread. That's why I am confused because there are so many methods scattered everywhere.
So here's what I tried and something went wrong already.
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Flashfire Method to Upgrade/Downgrade Your Bootloaders Dev Unlocked To Stock Roms
This Method Only Works If You Have A Dev Unlocked Bootloader Or Have Previously Unlocked Your Bootloader
I just want to add this warning. If you use this method you dont have the safety net that safestrap provides so if something goes wrong in this process you may end up with a unrooted phone and locked bootloaders causing you to have to start The whole rooting process over since you will not have safetrap to boot back into
Upgrade To PD1 Stock Rooted Rom With PD1 Unlocked Bootloader From 5.0 TW Rom With PB1 Unlocked Bootloaders
Download these 2 files and place on phone
PB1_Flashfire_Prepare.zip
PD1_Full_Firmware_With_Dev_Aboot_Twrp_Recovery_Ima ge.tar.zip
Reboot to TWRP and flash PB1_Flashfire_Prepare.zip
Reboot
Open Flashfire (It will be installed by the zip you flashed in TWRP) grant supersu permission
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. I rebooted to TWRP. Flashed the PB1_Flashfire_Prepare.zip and rebooted right away. I now had safestrap installed which I did not before. So I go to open it up and my screen goes white for a second and then just returns to the app drawer?? It will not open
So then I delete the file and figured maybe it was a.bad download. Downloaded it again and tried to boot to recovery but it went to stock recovery not TWRP.
So I have no clue what to do now. How can I get TWRP installed again? All I did was flash that one zip so idk what went wrong. I am on PB1 everything.
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The SS/FF method was old instruction. People sometimes has hit or miss. I think Jkruse found out the cause (my guess is the binary status). Please go for the latest one, which is at the OP of the link I gave you.
If you still have the unlocked bootloader, you can always odin the twrp image (I recommend v3.0.0.0).
If you happened lost the unlocked bootloader status, then I would recommend you to odin the original PB1 tar, root, unlock bootloader, odin twrp, then follow the 2nd part of the OP.
I hope this helps.
so i have s4 igh337 not using in us using in pakistan
its a rooted rom and i used this forum to install it with flashfire i cant find the link but the problem is everything is getting into its internal memory which quite full now although i have installed majority of apps on the external sd card
what i want is a fresh install of a rom without bloatware like not the atnt one but the samsung s4 generic one
i can provide the details if some can just help me a little bit
Is the bootloader on your phone locked? If it is, you can only install ROMs that are based on AT&T ROM.
audit13 said:
Is the bootloader on your phone locked? If it is, you can only install that are based on AT&T ROM.
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i think yes the bootloader is there the atnt logo still shows but i have a rooted custom rom and i am sure its not from atnt looking for futher help if theres a way i can check for sure
What custom rom is on the phone? A locked bootloader can't run aosp or cm roms.
Load the Samsung info app to confirm the bootloader version.
audit13 said:
What custom rom is on the phone? A locked bootloader can't run aosp or cm roms.
Load the Samsung info app to confirm the bootloader version.
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Android version 5.0.1
Baseband I337UCUGOC3
kernel 3.4.0-4408911 [email protected] #1
Build no LRX22C.I337UCUGOC3
SE for android status enforcing sepf_samsung_SGH . . . .. .
SECURE BOOT STATUS TYPE SAMSUNG
MDF V1.0 RELEASE 4
VPN V1.4 RELEASE 4
KNOX 2.3
SDK 5.3.0
PREMIUM SDK 2.3.0
and alot of other things
Bootloader is locked so you'll be limited to using safestrap.
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Bootloader is locked so you'll be limited to using safestrap.
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would give you the thanks if the post actually helped me it didnt sorry bro
No problem. There's a search function on xda too.
y2kyasir said:
so i have s4 igh337 not using in us using in pakistan
its a rooted rom and i used this forum to install it with flashfire i cant find the link but the problem is everything is getting into its internal memory which quite full now although i have installed majority of apps on the external sd card
what i want is a fresh install of a rom without bloatware like not the atnt one but the samsung s4 generic one
i can provide the details if some can just help me a little bit
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i337 came with 16 GB internal memory.
I am using OC3 based custom rom and I have 2.61 GB left in my internal memory.
You phone still might have old photos, music files, old system files there.
You need to backup and clean the old files (photo, music, document, etc..) before you start your new fresh installation.
I suggest you use flashfire to wipe the internal SD after you make backup of the data files to the computer.
After you do that your phone would not boot (soft-brick), so you need to install the NB1 firmware cooked by Muniz_ri via odin, root with towel root, install flashfire and install OC3 root rom via flashfire.
Then use flashfire to install lean custom rom. Install Titanium backup pro to freeze or uninstall the bloat ware too. You can follow the debloat guide for lollipop to uninstall the apps.
If you need firmware or rooted rom for my suggestion do let me know.
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i337 came with 16 GB internal memory.
I am using OC3 based custom rom and I have 2.61 GB left in my internal memory.
You phone still might have old photos, music files, old system files there.
You need to backup and clean the old files (photo, music, document, etc..) before you start your new fresh installation.
I suggest you use flashfire to wipe the internal SD after you make backup of the data files to the computer.
After you do that your phone would not boot (soft-brick), so you need to install the NB1 firmware cooked by Muniz_ri via odin, root with towel root, install flashfire and install OC3 root rom via flashfire.
Then use flashfire to install lean custom rom. Install Titanium backup pro to freeze or uninstall the bloat ware too. You can follow the debloat guide for lollipop to uninstall the apps.
If you need firmware or rooted rom for my suggestion do let me know.
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I need everything and ill give you all the details my phone is on on lolipop rooted super user access granted boot loader locked atnt one how soon can you help
y2kyasir said:
I need everything and ill give you all the details my phone is on on lolipop rooted super user access granted boot loader locked atnt one how soon can you help
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According to your spec your bootloader version is OC3. You can come back to OC3 or OC4 after you clean up the phone.
Like I said in my reply made in October, you need to back up every thing from the internal sdcard to the computer first.
Here is the step I mentioned in my previous post.
"You need to backup and clean the old files (photo, music, document, etc..) before you start your new fresh installation.
I suggest you use flashfire to wipe the internal SD after you make backup of the data files to the computer.
After you do that your phone would not boot (soft-brick), so you need to install the NB1 firmware cooked by Muniz_ri via odin, root with towel root, install flashfire and install OC3 root rom via flashfire.
Then use flashfire to install lean custom rom. Install Titanium backup pro to freeze or uninstall the bloat ware too. You can follow the debloat guide for lollipop to uninstall the apps.
If you need firmware or rooted rom for my suggestion do let me know. "
You can find the NB1 firmware cooked by muniz_rl at here.
That firmware is rootable with towel root. Get the towel root and root it. After the root, install the flashfire.
I could not find the OC3 bootloader so I suggest you flash the OC4 instead.
Here is the guide to flash OC4. The guide is updated for OK2 but you will be using the OC4 files instead. Just follow the steps.
Here is the OC4 bootlaoder.
Here is the OC4 rooted rom.
Here is the OC4 kernel. (You do not need it in the process, just to keep it handy for the future)
Once you are running OC4, you can install Titanium backup and freeze the bloatware. If you want to install the custom rom do let me know.
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According to your spec your bootloader version is OC3. You can come back to OC3 or OC4 after you clean up the phone.
Like I said in my reply made in October, you need to back up every thing from the internal sdcard to the computer first.
Here is the step I mentioned in my previous post.
"You need to backup and clean the old files (photo, music, document, etc..) before you start your new fresh installation.
I suggest you use flashfire to wipe the internal SD after you make backup of the data files to the computer.
After you do that your phone would not boot (soft-brick), so you need to install the NB1 firmware cooked by Muniz_ri via odin, root with towel root, install flashfire and install OC3 root rom via flashfire.
Then use flashfire to install lean custom rom. Install Titanium backup pro to freeze or uninstall the bloat ware too. You can follow the debloat guide for lollipop to uninstall the apps.
If you need firmware or rooted rom for my suggestion do let me know. "
You can find the NB1 firmware cooked by muniz_rl at here.
That firmware is rootable with towel root. Get the towel root and root it. After the root, install the flashfire.
I could not find the OC3 bootloader so I suggest you flash the OC4 instead.
Here is the guide to flash OC4. The guide is updated for OK2 but you will be using the OC4 files instead. Just follow the steps.
Here is the OC4 bootlaoder.
Here is the OC4 rooted rom.
Here is the OC4 kernel. (You do not need it in the process, just to keep it handy for the future)
Once you are running OC4, you can install Titanium backup and freeze the bloatware. If you want to install the custom rom do let me know.
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Starting from making the backup should i use flashfire or how to backup and put everything on my computer ? I used to do this stuff quite a while before so bit rusty thanks for bearing with me plus what i really want is to unlock the atnt thing so want to put a rom which has no bloatware so have more memory in the internal if its possible good if its not then ill follow these instructions again i cant thank you enough
I am a bit afraid my phone might die lol do you require anyother info i can provide ?
y2kyasir said:
Starting from making the backup should i use flashfire or how to backup and put everything on my computer ? I used to do this stuff quite a while before so bit rusty thanks for bearing with me plus what i really want is to unlock the atnt thing so want to put a rom which has no bloatware so have more memory in the internal if its possible good if its not then ill follow these instructions again i cant thank you enough
I am a bit afraid my phone might die lol do you require anyother info i can provide ?
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Info you gave me is enough.
If you phone die (brick), flashing the NB1 firmware via odin could save your phone.
Flashfire backup would restore the old system so I suggest you should not use the flashfire backup.
The back up is simple. Connect your phone to the computer via usb and copy and paste the data (photo, video, documents) to your computer.
Install the app like Netqin sync to backup your contact list. You can use google contact to backup your contact but it would mix the email and phone number.
Install the app like SMS backup to backup the sms message and phone logs.
Install the app like Titanium backup to backup the apps that you like to keep. (When you restore make sure to restore the app only. )
problem need help again
I was going through the posts and realized how helpful you were to a noob like me who helped me to install a stock custom rom i think i forgot to turn off the updates or something apprently my phone was initially stuck in bootloader the atnt now it wont even show the atnt logo keeping my fingers crossed that i havent screwed my phone
My phone can go in the android system recovery <3e>
LRX22C. I337UCUGOC3
if i am not wrong i cant just install any custom rom since bootloader is still locked i dont know for sure
in the screen below
#manual mode#
--applying multi-csc
applied the csc-code: ATT
Successfully applied multi - CSC
what have i tried uptill now
just wipe data/factory reset
can you help ?
It sounds like you need to flash the OC3 firmware using your computer and a program called ODIN. No, you cannot boot any custom ROM you want. You can only boot custom touchwiz based ROMs because of the bootloader lock.