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Very good reason for demanding 2.2 on X10

A computer security researcher says he plans to release code Thursday that could be used to attack some versions of Google's Android phones over the Internet.
The attack targets the browser in older, Android 2.1-and-earlier versions of the phones. It is being disclosed Thursday at the HouSecCon conference in Houston by M.J. Keith, a security researcher with Alert Logic. Keith says he has written code that allows him to run a simple command line shell in Android when the victim visits a website that contains his attack code.
The bug used in Keith's attack lies in the WebKit browser engine used by Android.
Google said it knows about the vulnerability. "We're aware of an issue in WebKit that could potentially impact only old versions of the Android browser," Google spokesman Jay Nancarrow confirmed in an e-mail. "The issue does not affect Android 2.2 or later versions."
canot link the article (my first thread)
check out,
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SE wont fall for this .... i dont think 2.2 is anywhere near 1st quater 2011

anyway on the good side Maxrfon (dev) has been able to access nand (FINALLY)
so if things go right , we might be able to run some custom ROM`s , who knows even CM6

haha 2.2. dream on. You've got to buy new SE pgone for that.

F*** sony, even if they make 2.2 it would be buggy. All the independent developers make way better stuff than Sony. Just look at the popularity of CyanogenMod and many more mods.

antivirus?

I dont wanna use a antivirus on my phone.. you didn't have to use that before and i will defently not use it now. ! and i really dont care about the x10i anymore im gonna replace that sh!t when my contract is over. thank god it's only about a month and half more ..

zwepter said:
I dont wanna use a antivirus on my phone.. you didn't have to use that before and i will defently not use it now. ! and i really dont care about the x10i anymore im gonna replace that sh!t when my contract is over. thank god it's only about a month and half more ..
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****? Why? It is still the best smartphone on the market.

are u kidding man? where do u live? which planet?
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earth ? :]

lornova said:
****? Why? It is still the best smartphone on the market.
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I think that should read it could've been the best smart-phone on the market .
It's sad when I see people get all excited about old OS 2.1, heck Blackberry has more frequent updates then the X10. No matter I will be leaving the X10 behind very soon & it as well as SE will be a distant bad memory.

phoneguy 4567 said:
I think that should read it could've been the best smart-phone on the market .
It's sad when I see people get all excited about old OS 2.1, heck Blackberry has more frequent updates then the X10. No matter I will be leaving the X10 behind very soon & it as well as SE will be a distant bad memory.
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of course Blackberry has more frequent updates in RIM than SE in X10, it's their only OS. Well nobody forced you on getting X10
if updates matter switch to Blackberry
I'm not flaming or anything here, it's that there is no point on saying "I'm done with SE F*** them and s*** I hate them" this kind of attitude won't help anyone
Cheers

MJ_QaT said:
of course Blackberry has more frequent updates in RIM than SE in X10, it's their only OS. Well nobody forced you on getting X10
if updates matter switch to Blackberry
I'm not flaming or anything here, it's that there is no point on saying "I'm done with SE F*** them and s*** I hate them" this kind of attitude won't help anyone
Cheers
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UKSHeep said:
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Lol very classy
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MJ_QaT said:
of course Blackberry has more frequent updates in RIM than SE in X10, it's their only OS. Well nobody forced you on getting X10
if updates matter switch to Blackberry
I'm not flaming or anything here, it's that there is no point on saying "I'm done with SE F*** them and s*** I hate them" this kind of attitude won't help anyone
Cheers
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I'm confused what other OS's does SE have? Are the providing more frequent updates to WinMo 6.5 or Symbian? Maybe they were working on the PSP phone or Windows Phone 7, & said screw X10 updates we already got their money LOL.

lornova said:
****? Why? It is still the best smartphone on the market.
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Not my market... my market has a 3D multitouch screeen, Android 2.2 powered, 9 megapixel 3D camera, with a wireless wallet and built in over-the-air TV antenna smartphone.

phoneguy 4567 said:
I'm confused what other OS's does SE have? Are the providing more frequent updates to WinMo 6.5 or Symbian? Maybe they were working on the PSP phone or Windows Phone 7, & said screw X10 updates we already got their money LOL.
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Maybe, but they currently working on another update for 2,1 which will provide UXP upgrades, plus working on win phone 7 update and a couple symbian devicrs. Not mentioning the PSP phone. So as you can see they are busy right now that's why have doubts about 2.2 update
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The points you make don't put SE in a better light especially to X10 owners IMO. In fact I would say it reinforces for many why they won't buy another SE phone. Samsung and other brands deal with multiple platforms and are able to get updates to customers in a relatively timely manner.

I personally use an X10 mini pro rooted and running 2.1 and I have to say it is awsome!! it seems even better than some HTC phone on the same range...
I agree on the fact that SE is late compared to other vendors but, hey, android is still lacking some old/basic features like the video dialer on 3G and it seems not even ready for it on Gingerbread.
I think there is no big difference between Xperia on 2.1 or 2.2. It won't make the phone becoming a thunder!!!
still some work to be done in different ways and I hope that developers will do their best to come with new fancy stuff

phoneguy 4567 said:
The points you make don't put SE in a better light especially to X10 owners IMO. In fact I would say it reinforces for many why they won't buy another SE phone. Samsung and other brands deal with multiple platforms and are able to get updates to customers in a relatively timely manner.
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True, but Samsung started producing Android earlier than Sony Ericsson so they do have the advantage of experience. Besides after the X10i we can be sure that whatever comes next will be with the latest Android OS.
It'll be foolish if they made the same mistake

Pocket-Lint.com - SE says "We've made mistakes, 2011 we'll be better"

“The first generation of handsets in our portfolio was about getting the capability out there”, Steve Walker (Acting) global head of marketing for Sony Ericsson told Pocket-lint, in a one-to-one interview at CES in Las Vegas.
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“Last year we didn’t anticipate the strength of feeling that consumers would have towards the Android release. And again that was a learning experience of the first year of mass market Android smartphones”.
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Here's the full article: http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/37869/sony-ericsson-2010-mistakes-made#ixzz1AqoY2JHm
Don't forget to post your comments for SE on the Pocket-Lint site.

I actually do have faith in SE handling their software better with the Arc and such, it just doesn't benefit me at all since I'm married to my X10 at least for the next couple of years or so. I dunno, everything I've felt is necessary to say about their current lineup is said already, it's nice to see SE admitting themselves that they failed. Even though their attitude is more like "We f'ed up, buy our new phone so that we can make up for it", than "Sorry we f'ed up, please enjoy our improved support for the X10 lineup in the year 2011!"

I should not read this :/ wrrrr...
“If we hadn’t done what we did with the X10 and the X10 minis we wouldn’t have been able to do what we’ve done here today”
M****r f****r :/

Tl;dr version - Lol congratz x10 owners you are officially our Guinea pig idiots, THATS what you get for trusting us to follow up on promises. Oh well right? No hard feelings k? thnxbai

ooidort said:
... it's nice to see SE admitting themselves that they failed. Even though their attitude is more like "We f'ed up, buy our new phone so that we can make up for it", than "Sorry we f'ed up, please enjoy our improved support for the X10 lineup in the year 2011!"
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This sums it up pretty well.
ledn said:
M****r f****r :/
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But, so does this.

bah. If they were sorry they would release the bootloader.

This only throws more wood in the fire.
Oh SE, you keep doing it wrong... And I still had a little hope...

kindred7 said:
bah. If they were sorry they would release the bootloader.
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Basically.

It's not news that they were wrong...
It would be nice to know they're going to make it right...
but they aint.

Hi, SE,how about giving us froyo + gingerbread or giving us all an Xperia Arc since X10 owners were all shafted?

Basically saying:
"Thanks to be beta-testers, dear users of X10-families. Now goodbye, but meanwhile please enjoy our half-arsed pathetic attempt in Android until it's dead, coz we don't care about old stuff no more now we got the Awesome Arc. Once again, thanks"

"we've made mistakes ".... saying that is the mistake... so that's mean buying x10 is a wrong thing and you should not buy x10 or x8 or mini because it's a mistake ... will i got SE something ... for me trusting SE was a mistake .

My usual,
SE, may Death be bestowed on you.
PUI...........

SE will not be popular with the geeks and the nerds who like to tinker with their phones. But for general masses, they will still sell because they design their phone nicely...

having looked at the new lg/htc/droid phones that are appearing in the very near future I reckon as usual sony is starting from behind, should be called xperia x10 v1.0
bet they wont unlock the bootloader either cos its probably the same code for all their new released phones.

coipu1234 said:
having looked at the new lg/htc/droid phones that are appearing in the very near future I reckon as usual sony is starting from behind, should be called xperia x10 v1.0
bet they wont unlock the bootloader either cos its probably the same code for all their new released phones.
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witch one "X10 , Mini , pro & X8" are outdated :s the arc is not on the Market
, we choose the bad brand and our dev try to give us some light with root and custom rom , i dont understand if Zdishu , Jerpelea & ... from XDA are able to develop 2.2 , 2.3 android rom , with good ressources they could do that perfectly pfff SE S**k

roaringhere said:
SE will not be popular with the geeks and the nerds who like to tinker with their phones. But for general masses, they will still sell because they design their phone nicely...
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Got to agree there with u. And neither would I be suggesting this phone to any1 again. Sure it feels nice to see ppl admiring the x10 but what's the use if it ain't up to date. A smartphone that's not even a phone :'(
God damn SE atleast unlock the friggin' bootloader. x-(
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Screwing over your early adopters is a poor long term strategy.

D-Trixxx said:
Screwing over your early adopters is a poor long term strategy.
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Not when long-term is defined as a fiscal year.

roaringhere said:
SE will not be popular with the geeks and the nerds who like to tinker with their phones. But for general masses, they will still sell because they design their phone nicely...
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I can't agree with this... maybe earlier it was like that, ppl never know about updates, and didn't care much, but now with all this Android hype, more and more people are talking about Android, Froyo, games, MT and stuff, they all are aware of this. And looking how HTC updates their cheap phones like Wildfire and Tatto to froyo... they will ask how come they don't have Froyo on top model SE phone
I'm sure that SE will get what it deserves..

Sad news..,gingerbread for samsung galaxi family..

This news with hurt who buy xperia android phone.., very disappointed..., even galaxi mini with more cheaper than x8 will have gigngerbread from the official samsung.,what the hell with sony.., we only just eclair., never buy sony agains
androidos.in/2011/05/samsung-gingerbread-update-galaxy-s-ace-fit-gio-mini-tab/
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Maybe now SE will launch Ginger on X8.

Drakenfall said:
Maybe now SE will launch Ginger on X8.
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i don't think so. why should they do it ??? they don't care about they customers, they care only about money ...

fifo171 said:
i don't think so. why should they do it ??? they don't care about they customers, they care only about money ...
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Why? well, if their competititors are launching the Ginger even in the low end phones, SE will be left behind in the competition, to keep up they should update theyre low end also.
Well, at least it´s a hope...not that they will.

these noob's from SE....
from today ONLY HTC, great smartphone's with great funcionality, for the same money...

Drakenfall said:
Maybe now SE will launch Ginger on X8.
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No, they can't. They said once that X8's hardware is not capable of a smooth 2.3 Android... So now if they change their opinion, then everybody will laugh at them. Sad story, but com'on SE, just dig your own grave!

Asycid said:
No, they can't. They said once that X8's hardware is not capable of a smooth 2.3 Android... So now if they change their opinion, then everybody will laugh at them. Sad story, but com'on SE, just dig your own grave!
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No, People already laugh at them cuz we use Custom GingerBread and is Pretty smooth...Stock ginger from SE should be even smoother, but they just won't release it

Asycid said:
No, they can't. They said once that X8's hardware is not capable of a smooth 2.3 Android... So now if they change their opinion, then everybody will laugh at them. Sad story, but com'on SE, just dig your own grave!
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Soooo not true!!! Look at the members here at XDA. Most of us are running 2.2 or 2.3 ROMs smoothly. SE should think more before announcing these stuff.

Maybe I'm not wrote it understandable. I mean under my writing that SE can't change their mind because they stated a thing. I know we've got nice ROMs, but SE stated that it isn't possible... now if they make a 2.3 software, they'll just make ass from their mouth and this will not be good for their prestige.
I hope it is clear now what I'm thinking about, sorry for the inconveniences.
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That reminds me a situation that was something about 50 years ago. An guy from poland told that he can build computer that is smiliar size to case. Noone belived him and he made first small computer - K202. How much of them were produced? Only one. Comunist governement in poland send police to stop production and arest him.
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I change my mind.., this is a good news.., why dont we use this news to attack sony., if they have market strategi ,then we have customer strategi too., attack them with this news link in they forums.., and they other customer with see and with complain too.
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I hope that someone can port this (Clicky) to the X8
That new phone of SE is 2.3.

i really think that SE will change her minds again...at least here in my country we see loads of X8 for sale, or with discount to buy. It's good for them if the population buy their phones but they know already that noone will buy it at the moment if no upgrade for 2.3 is available.

i think that people who really want to wait for a official 2.3 rom from SE just need to wait till that marketing campaign of new xperia line ends. After that they will update all the other phones too. But till then they know that some people will get upset and buy one of the new xperias cause it has 2.3, hd, etc.

I hope that SE bring us some updates as far as the hardwares supports, by the way, I really appreciate the custom roms from devs, and shouldn´t change to stock ones

will sony support froyobread officialy ???

sony stop support for x8 forever or what?

Officially yes, sadly or not

Who cares about sony anyway. Their support would be good, but our great devs are proving every day, that we don't need sony

Mr. Hat said:
Who cares about sony anyway. Their support would be good, but our great devs are proving every day, that we don't need sony
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don't say such things, without sony we are nothing... remember that.. dont compare sony to M$

Pff i dont need the official froyo. The froyos from our devs are a lot better even if SE will give us froyo i will stay with custom roms
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orangzeb said:
don't say such things, without sony we are nothing... remember that.. dont compare sony to M$
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why? Do you work at Sony?
Are you a Spy sent by them?

jkrauser2 said:
why? Do you work at Sony?
Are you a Spy sent by them?
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i believe that sony developers have see this forum and said "ow great, i will stop developing software for x8" or said "ow great, i will fix the cm7's problem for x8, and release for official gingerbread x8"

It is a fact, that the custom ROMs made by the devs here are a lot better in any aspect, than that of sony... I just need to look at my battery gauge... with stock 1 day (if lucky) froyobread lasted for 3 days (and was still ar 25%) So I won't return to stock even if launched .
A more up to date kernel would be appreciated though

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why? Do you work at Sony?
Are you a Spy sent by them?
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I wish that was true...
I'm the biggest fan of Sony... on the other hand think about their products , how many good things they've given us

orangzeb said:
I wish that was true...
I'm the biggest fan of Sony... on the other hand think about their products , how many good things they've given us
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Me too, a fan of SE. I owned only SE phones my entire life..
But see they still don't want to give us the word "open source" because they keep the bootloader locked. They left X8 in the air.

custom roms are lighted versions or originals.. useless stuff is deleted.. so that's good if talking about 2.2.. but about 2.3 dev's need to deal with camera and radio problems....(about radio,never mind )

orangzeb said:
I wish that was true...
I'm the biggest fan of Sony... on the other hand think about their products , how many good things they've given us
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Personally I wonder what they've done for us that would actually persuade me to go over to their side. Almost every single one of their products have disappointed me in one way or another . And that's why I'm convinced that I'll never buy their products again. This X8 is the last product I'll ever buy from them. At least I've still got XDA .

spyder12345 said:
Personally I wonder what they've done for us that would actually persuade me to go over to their side. Almost every single one of their products have disappointed me in one way or another . And that's why I'm convinced that I'll never buy their products again. This X8 is the last product I'll ever buy from them. At least I've still got XDA .
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+1 mate, look at my signature.
but I am planning to buy Xperia ARC as my last SE phone.

well I i can see the grudge but this is policy mate, we are users, we can expect more and more from their side but see it from their perspective... They have hell of competition..
and talking about products PS3 just ****ed xbox360 in A55....
I also own a x8 and it's a bit old so i don't complaint much , p.s nice ppl like you and devs here on XDA made my days...
Maybe you didn't use Nokia / Samsung / LG Phones to test how bad they suck ! why not buy xperia RAY ? if you want everything..
Sorry I meant no offense just stating my thoughts...

orangzeb said:
well I i can see the grudge but this is policy mate, we are users, we can expect more and more from their side but see it from their perspective... They have hell of competition..
and talking about products PS3 just ****ed xbox360 in A55....
I also own a x8 and it's a bit old so i don't complaint much , p.s nice ppl like you and devs here on XDA made my days...
Maybe you didn't use Nokia / Samsung / LG Phones to test how bad they suck ! why not buy xperia RAY ? if you want everything..
Sorry I meant no offense just stating my thoughts...
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Don't even mention Samsungs android phones... I've changed to X8 after Galaxy Spica... It really is horrible as stock, but far better with custom roms, but even because of the sh*tty drivers, kernels and everything, it is bad... But id had many buttons
I'm not disappointed in X8 (with custom rom of course, the stock s*cks like hell), with froyobread it is a very nice phone

i'm using froyobread and eclair 2.1 update 1 both ,

Exactly, with custom roms, who needs sony?, theyll probably forgot about the X8 and are working on the X16, I mean I just got the phone, SE lemme use it for a whole year, support it, update it, and then Ill think about changing it, but no, everyday new sh!t comes out!!!!

I'm wondering about Adobe's declaration about full flash to AMR6 CPU's. Maybe when they'll finally release Flash to such devices as X8 or Swift, Sony may change a bit their politics. I hope so. I'm not a big fan of GB, but fully functional camera, radio and BT could give a huge boost to our Devs

jkrauser2 said:
Me too, a fan of SE. I owned only SE phones my entire life..
But see they still don't want to give us the word "open source" because they keep the bootloader locked. They left X8 in the air.
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Iam a die hard SE fan and i know they made some mistakes but new line up aint bad.i love Xperia ray

eagleeyetom said:
I'm wondering about Adobe's declaration about full flash to AMR6 CPU's. Maybe when they'll finally release Flash to such devices as X8 or Swift, Sony may change a bit their politics. I hope so. I'm not a big fan of GB, but fully functional camera, radio and BT could give a huge boost to our Devs
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I don't think it is because of that. Phone developers want to sell, that's why they release 1 update per phone, so that people keep buying the new ones

Bye Sony Ericsson. Hello Sony. And hello Ericsson

Today i woke up and checked my mail. I got this mail from my freind in sweden. Hi again Sondre. I got som bad news. Sony Ericsson is no more. Sony bought them out. Which makes our phones a bit "different".
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personally i see this as good news, now sony can properly integrate there features together (im looking at you playstation brand)

silvacrest said:
personally i see this as good news, now sony can properly integrate there features together (im looking at you playstation brand)
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I disagree. Sony have confirmed they will not be using Android on there devices in the future.

SondreVAIO... Stop posting 1001 threads about the same damn thing. You've done this multiple times with multiple topics.

source? they will be using around and windows mobile and said that while unlikely they may persue buying palm OS from HP.
however this deal does not go through until early 2012 so expect business as usual.
my source...my uncle who works for S.E in sweden

I think I am going to get a Samsung next time I get a new smartphone, If Sony confirmed there not using Android.

I don't know if I'm gonna like this unless it means more big budget titles come to the Xperia PLAY.
Sony's got a long streak going for dip**** decisions, poor marketing and absolutely dreadful ad campaigns. SE's Kristen Schaal ads for the Xperia PLAY were easily better than any of that garbage Sony tried to market the PS3 with.

who needs sony we have our own comunity here we will build our own ultimate rom if sony leave us in a pit.

DeanBoro said:
I disagree. Sony have confirmed they will not be using Android on there devices in the future.
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Source for this? I know the Vita won't use Android, but it would make sense for them to do it for cellular and tablet devices...

jutley said:
who needs sony we have our own comunity here we will build our own ultimate rom if sony leave us in a pit.
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Unless you have an r800x then, like me sadly, you need sony to release some kernel sources for your device, which may never happen, so in some way I agree with you because Im sure a dev in this community will figure the lil ol' r800x out sooner or later
If sony drops android though I will more then likely go back to Droid line up , Im seeing Droid 4 on Lte kinda tempting
But at the same time Im enjoying the challenge of my r800x, it will be defeated!

TLRtheory said:
I don't know if I'm gonna like this unless it means more big budget titles come to the Xperia PLAY.
Sony's got a long streak going for dip**** decisions, poor marketing and absolutely dreadful ad campaigns. SE's Kristen Schaal ads for the Xperia PLAY were easily better than any of that garbage Sony tried to market the PS3 with.
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I second that. I'm a bit worried too. Indeed Sony has a history of making very very bad decisions by trying to go their own way and fail.

DeanBoro said:
I disagree. Sony have confirmed they will not be using Android on there devices in the future.
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well....your gonna have to show a link for that, SE mentioned a while ago that 80% of there revenue came from their android phones, why would they jump ship now?
in fact i got a quaot for you from engadget:
"Update: Sony president and CEO Sir Howard Stringer has just addressed the media on the proposed buyout and confirmed that the company will indeed move away from feature phones, as previously stated. This effectively heralds the death of the Walkman line and the dawn of Sony's exclusively Android era, though Stringer's not ruling out the possibility of bringing another OS on board. When asked whether his firm would consider buying webOS, the exec said simply, "Never say never."

hairdewx said:
Source for this? I know the Vita won't use Android, but it would make sense for them to do it for cellular and tablet devices...
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Engadget. go read.

Engadget seems to prove you wrong...

Ok here is a source
never mind what I said earlier, But it is important to give a source so that it doesn't cause any confusion.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/10/27/idUS69098+27-Oct-2011+HUG20111027

RacecarBMW said:
For the millionth time. THIS IS JUST A RUMOR.
UNLESS YOU HAVE A SOURCE TO BACK THAT UP!
yes that was in caps on purpose.
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If i use your drop box link will you get the extra 250mb an myself aswell ?
Random i know...

216Monster said:
If i use your drop box link will you get the extra 250mb an myself aswell ?
Random i know...
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Yes we both will get an extra 250mb.

Logseman said:
Engadget seems to prove you wrong...
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all i have to say to you is. your an ass.

DeanBoro said:
Engadget. go read.
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what? are you spreading bad information on purpose or something?
Engadget pretty much says the exact opposite of what your claiming, sony are ditching feature phones and are going 100% into android
http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/27/...nt-venture-assumes-ownersh/#comment-347181325

lol, pwned