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SE, shame on you

Hi, after I have seen round the web what SE's project is working on,
Xxxx://xxx.pcworld.com/article/203117/sony_planning_psp_phone_android_30_gaming_platform.html
I feel to advice all the future SE customers on what they may experience with Customer Support.
I will spam all possible forums regarding the next SE gadget.
It may be useless my small battle but.... the more people are aware of their shameful CS, the less sales should follow.
What do you think?
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I think this thread should be closed....that's what I think
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i don't get the point of this?
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Watch your language elson14, I didn't meen to upset nobody.
What would you do to advice future SE customers?
Probably you are one who is going to buy the Android/PSP and later complaint because of some OS limitation?
Again, watch your language and grow up a bit, your neurons are begging for it.
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"SE, shame on you"
I agree. The whole firmware lockdown of a good smartphone is purely about future sales. The PSP-phone explains everything, eg. why Flash is not supported by long delayed 2.1.
Companies shouldn't get away with treating all users like idiots. More power to the hackers..

You should be happy that the X10 isnt bugridden like the GS. It was SEs first android phone and i think they did a commendable job. I am sure they have learnt and will treat us better the next time. All said, i love my X10.

I7redd said:
"SE, shame on you"
I agree. The whole firmware lockdown of a good smartphone is purely about future sales. The PSP-phone explains everything, eg. why Flash is not supported by long delayed 2.1.
Companies shouldn't get away with treating all users like idiots. More power to the hackers..
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Thanks, this is what I was trying to say, since English is not my first language, sometimes I even don't understand myself LOl.
I didn't buy the iPhone because of the many restrictions and others limitations.
I was happy, I still happy with the x10 ( I am just waiting for the good news from the dev) butI am furious with SE, there is nothing I can do to harm them but I can spread my experience, the smarter will know what other mobile to buy, the others... will feed the beast.
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celletta said:
Hi, after I have seen round the web what SE's project is working on,
Xxxx://xxx.pcworld.com/article/203117/sony_planning_psp_phone_android_30_gaming_platform.html
I feel to advice all the future SE customers on what they may experience with Customer Support.
I will spam all possible forums regarding the next SE gadget.
It may be useless my small battle but.... the more people are aware of their shameful CS, the less sales should follow.
What do you think?
Sent from my X10i using Tapatalk
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For god sake there human...
They are not robots and SE has procrastinated with this update because in all this time they couldn't have done such little and yet they did.
This thread should be locked/closed in my opinion because they have said that they learnt from there mistakes.

zm4 said:
For god sake there human...
They are not robots and SE has procrastinated with this update because in all this time they couldn't have done such little and yet they did.
This thread should be locked/closed in my opinion because they have said that they learnt from there mistakes.
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lol htc people are humans. howcome they have better os?
and when i call se cs they r teribble some of them doesnt even have knowledge about x10. i think u have to be idiot to work at sony ericsson

hmm, normally i dont post on this kinda useless topics, but ok here u have it
1. wtf u complainin about someones language? the language is 100% proper and isnt offending anyone in any way...
2. since se makes something new, what u think they only do that stuff? jeez wake up there isnt only 1 team making stuff u know, and so whut they need to live and work their ways in the market also
3. yeah se is slow, but have u ever seen what u get? go to htc or smthn and have a crappy camera laggy phone etc.etc.etc. i rather get the good things
4. idk if u noticed but this forum isnt made to go wild against se u know..
5. the ppl u get on a phone at se, duh they are not the brightest people thats an fact, but wich helpdesk is?
6. OLD NEWS about the game phone
u know i'll stop by now it has no sence at all to react but yea here have my thought about ur senseless post
sincerely Hawky

I7redd said:
"SE, shame on you"
I agree. The whole firmware lock-down of a good smartphone is purely about future sales. The PSP-phone explains everything, eg. why Flash is not supported by long delayed 2.1.
Companies shouldn't get away with treating all users like idiots. More power to the hackers..
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SE is acting like they are market share leaders instead of near the bottom. If someone asked me if the should get a SE phone unless it was dirt cheap I would say no.

I honestly don't know why people still complaining
First of all there is not a single help-desk that knows everything about products.
Second of all, X10i was their first Android OS, and yet if you looked at any device that used that O.S you will find a huge difference in terms of performance or stability.
And I do liked the fact they locked the bootloader ( yes I do ) because I always want to be different than others, look at all the other devices ( same menu same interface ) with a little difference in applications used.
plus if SE will skip 2.2 that means 3.0 will be released as soon as it is available in the market, in other words, SE will be the first to get it

You guys should hop over to the nexus one general section. It seems HTC has produced some horror stories too.

se_dude said:
You should be happy that the X10 isnt bugridden like the GS. It was SEs first android phone and i think they did a commendable job. I am sure they have learnt and will treat us better the next time. All said, i love my X10.
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+1
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Hoping this forum just tell the truth. What so bad about x10 with 1.6. I my self is very satisfy. Although there are many improvement in 2.1. But just wait and patience.
Sometimes people are so funny. They compare x10 with another phone they don't really know. As I say... X10 is better than other phone and other brands. Really.
Just write and complain according to the truth. Don't spread rumor with nonsense.
I agree with other wise friends to close this thread.
Gunawan, GN Mutimedia & X10i

Get a life.stop complaining..if u dnt like se fones,sell it..go n buy htc plastic fone.hahaha.
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I left Sony along time ago, got myself a desire, you guys are wasting you time with Sony seriously. They take the pi** with their overrated products... the only reason I'm here is because my girlfriend wants me to keep her updated on 2.1...
Go with another company people seriously
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I really would like to sell this peace of, but not for less than a half that i payed..
I dont complaing about flash player , speed ,...
Just could be able to hear and to be heard... and not have a "iron man" nick name due voice distortion...
but even worse.
SE, if you cant do the job, just say "i will not update this crap software, stupid consumer"
Man, phones have names, and SE is not one of them.

Htc is no better, they made tons of smart phone only fews rise to the top. Still they cant pass the ugly radar.
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This thread is a waste of 30 seconds of my life.

Sonys new devices officially announced, and a few of them! neo, pro, play etc!

Keep up to date im posting these on my site www.bitsnacker.com
I see why they are releasing the Xperia play, but im not so sure on the neo, pro and arc as they are all basically the same phone with a different case! They have definitely learnt fro the x10 customers though i think

There's a contest on Facebook to win one of ten Play's a month early. I think I'd rather play Farmville though.

Just been looking at the specs of the Neo and Pro.. The pro has more of a "business" market to it.. I'm not a huge fan of slide out keyboards, but a lot of people are..
The Neo seems to be a slightly smaller version of the Arc, but with the added benefit of a front facing camera...
I think I'd be torn between the Arc and the Neo.. would have to get both in my hand to see which one is best for me.

lol probably get released with 2.1 and then get froyo a year later when everyone else is already on android 3.0...
Fk SE, I love my x10 but I wouldn't buy another one of their phones

Fck SE, with XDA I can have whatever I want!

fiscidtox said:
lol probably get released with 2.1 and then get froyo a year later when everyone else is already on android 3.0...
Fk SE, I love my x10 but I wouldn't buy another one of their phones
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Students, if you look on to your left, you'll see a troll behind the glass...oh sorry, I thought it was a museum

Tehouster said:
Fck SE, with XDA I can have whatever I want!
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agree!!
even with SCE support SE SUCKS!!!!!!

unknown13x +1.. unhealthy.. Would be interesting to hear SE's upgrade strategy for the new range though.. and a likely time line from OS release from Google to upgraded OS from SE.. if they've really leaned from the X10 then they'll have made it real easy to upgrade.. to stay ahead of the game.

unknown13x said:
Students, if you look on to your left, you'll see a troll behind the glass...oh sorry, I thought it was a museum
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And if you look to your right, you'll see a company shill that pretends to leak huge news to help the community, but really only promotes moving on to newer company offerings.

go3asy said:
Keep up to date im posting these on my site www.bitsnacker.com
I see why they are releasing the Xperia play, but im not so sure on the neo, pro and arc as they are all basically the same phone with a different case! They have definitely learnt fro the x10 customers though i think
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The "neo" is the vivaz 2 ^^
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R.I.P. Sony Ericsson!
Samsung is going 3 steps further with super amoled plus, 8.4mm thickness and dual core processor, after all these the Xperia Arc seems for childs to play! Sad..

lol probably get released with 2.1 and then get froyo a year later when everyone else is already on android 3.0...
Fk SE, I love my x10 but I wouldn't buy another one of their phones
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Fck SE, with XDA I can have whatever I want!
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And if you look to your right, you'll see a company shill that pretends to leak huge news to help the community, but really only promotes moving on to newer company offerings.
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Please grow up and be mature, do not spam this thread with your useless comments.
If you have anything to discuss about those product do use as long as it's not off-topic. Otherwise go somewhere is

There will be MASSIVE trolls tonight...straight up
Regarding its update, it's actually on another stage of development already...You'll hear some good news in April

unknown13x said:
There will be MASSIVE trolls tonight...straight up
Regarding its update, it's actually on another stage of development already...You'll hear some good news in April
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Quick question though, are they planning to release the 2.4 soon?
as far as I know it will be the same as the 2.3 but with dual-core apps support
Can't blame them if they won't though, Google just release 2.3 is December and they already are planning to release 2.4 in April :S
They have to slow down honestly, with this rate, they'll be out of OS names soon

MJ_QaT said:
Quick question though, are they planning to release the 2.4 soon?
as far as I know it will be the same as the 2.3 but with dual-core apps support
Can't blame them if they won't though, Google just release 2.3 is December and they already are planning to release 2.4 in April :S
They have to slow down honestly, with this rate, they'll be out of OS names soon
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April Did you noticed something in the announcement? Neo and pro never mentioned anything about 2.3. All they said is...Gingerbread

unknown13x said:
April Did you noticed something in the announcement? Neo and pro never mentioned anything about 2.3. All they said is...Gingerbread
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LoL smart thing to do
Can't wait for them to be released honestly

unknown13x
Hi! Can you tell me what is the hardware difference between Arc and Neo besides screen size and front camera? Wanted to get arc, but now i see that neo is not bad too. Could you? Thanx!

djandre said:
unknown13x
Hi! Can you tell me what is the hardware difference between Arc and Neo besides screen size and front camera? Wanted to get arc, but now i see that neo is not bad too. Could you? Thanx!
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That's about all that's different. If you want to save ALOT of money, go for neo, just a friendly suggestion I'm personally getting the arc soon, though if I have to dish out my money, the neo sold me

So anyone that doesn't agree with you and say "Omg Dizz iz so awesummm" is a troll?
Sorry, but others are allowed to have dissenting opinions, that's a fact of life. Go start an SE fan club if all you want is positive "Sony is da besttt!!11!" comments

fiscidtox said:
So anyone that doesn't agree with you and say "Omg Dizz iz so awesummm" is a troll?
Sorry, but others are allowed to have dissenting opinions, that's a fact of life. Go start an SE fan club if all you want is positive "Sony is da besttt!!11!" comments
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I didn't know opinions allowed here includes profanities In the view of people who use such words can only be viewed in one aspect as I have described. I don't mind people talking with real reasons, and I have accepted many opposing opinions, but to come in and say "F this, F that" IMO doesn't really put up much of a fight...

After no updates,X10 Insulted by SE team

http://blogs.sonyericsson.com/products/
look at the video how they showing that not only software, X10 camera sucks as well..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtBZOXiASQk&feature=player_embedded#at=70

lol... no matter what phone u use it will get outdated in a year . and it wasnt a insult of any sort . it was a comparison. why dont u compare u r phone camera with other phones in its same time line ( have same release dates)
Most people are sick of such kind of posts. avoid them pls!

I suppose your glass is half empty then?
Should every product improvement be considered as an insult to those who bought the older version?
Nothing would ever progress if manufacturers considered that.
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jags_the1 said:
lol... no matter what phone u use it will get outdated in a year . and it wasnt a insult of any sort . it was a comparison. why dont u compare u r phone camera with other phones in its same time line ( have same release dates)
Most people are sick of such kind of posts. avoid them pls!
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yousure it will be outdated in 1 year?? I might say in less than that
im_iceman said:
I suppose your glass is half empty then?
Should every product improvement be considered as an insult to those who bought the older version?
Nothing would ever progress if manufacturers considered that.
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it shouldnot be considered as that but we have to remember that the 1st version of anything is always going to suck and tht we'll be disappointed of it

Its not about new phone,its all about attitude..
do u see apple,HTC showing that see our iphone4 or htc desire 4..5 whatever can do this now see this our old phone iphone 3gs or desire can not do this....
so all those who got our older phone are bunch of fools coz their phone cant do this...
X10 is indeed one of the powerful machine out there in the market,but highly under rated,and seeing the attitude by SE towards it...it just makes every X10 user what big mistake they did by buying it...
if not support the X10 users,atleast dont insult them

kunalgahlot said:
Its not about new phone,its all about attitude..
do u see apple,HTC showing that see our iphone4 or htc desire 4..5 whatever can do this now see this our old phone iphone 3gs or desire can not do this....
so all those who got our older phone are bunch of fools coz their phone cant do this...
X10 is indeed one of the powerful machine out there in the market,but highly under rated,and seeing the attitude by SE towards it...it just makes every X10 user what big mistake they did by buying it...
if not support the X10 users,atleast dont insult them
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I never considered it a mistake buying Rachael 0.o
But... I kinda feel bad cos I'm starting to ogle at her sister... T_T

X10 is not old enough to retire..not even a year old,that it is being boycotted by the company and users..so please don't give the reason that it is old now so company and no one should care about it

loneLEE;11397897But I kinda feel bad cos I'm starting to ogle at her sister... T_T[/QUOTE said:
Me too mate, me too
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You are honestly trying to say that sony ericsson shouldn't market the fact that their new phones are better then the current one?
so many companies do it. When HD was coming on they were showing quality differences and how bad the old quality is. I guess you'll say how bad they are for that too.
Or how graphics card companies compare new and old generations?
Or cpu manufacturers? Or car makers?
It's not like sony ericsson are the only ones...
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I don't think having an upgraded camera is an insult. It's not like the camera sensors are exactly the same. You'd have a point if they were though.

Findee said:
You are honestly trying to say that sony ericsson shouldn't market the fact that their new phones are better then the current one?
so many companies do it. When HD was coming on they were showing quality differences and how bad the old quality is. I guess you'll say how bad they are for that too.
Or how graphics card companies compare new and old generations?
Or cpu manufacturers? Or car makers?
It's not like sony ericsson are the only ones...
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Indeed. It's just strategy marketing just to make ppl buy their latest products. Every company in the world does that, so don't just blame SE.
But now, let's see why all this debating: the X10 isn't old, 'cause it doesn't even have a year since its release and 'cause its hardware specs. still can compete with another phones in the market. The problem is that ppl have the feeling that SE is trying to say "your X10 is old/obsolete/outated, trash it! Take some cash or your credit card and go to your nearest store, or call your service provider and request Arc/Neo/Play right now!".
That's the trouble. It depends of how much we let ourselves to be influenced by this or how we understand the message.

Im closing this thread
it does nothing to contribute to disussion

Sad news..,gingerbread for samsung galaxi family..

This news with hurt who buy xperia android phone.., very disappointed..., even galaxi mini with more cheaper than x8 will have gigngerbread from the official samsung.,what the hell with sony.., we only just eclair., never buy sony agains
androidos.in/2011/05/samsung-gingerbread-update-galaxy-s-ace-fit-gio-mini-tab/
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Maybe now SE will launch Ginger on X8.

Drakenfall said:
Maybe now SE will launch Ginger on X8.
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i don't think so. why should they do it ??? they don't care about they customers, they care only about money ...

fifo171 said:
i don't think so. why should they do it ??? they don't care about they customers, they care only about money ...
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Why? well, if their competititors are launching the Ginger even in the low end phones, SE will be left behind in the competition, to keep up they should update theyre low end also.
Well, at least it´s a hope...not that they will.

these noob's from SE....
from today ONLY HTC, great smartphone's with great funcionality, for the same money...

Drakenfall said:
Maybe now SE will launch Ginger on X8.
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No, they can't. They said once that X8's hardware is not capable of a smooth 2.3 Android... So now if they change their opinion, then everybody will laugh at them. Sad story, but com'on SE, just dig your own grave!

Asycid said:
No, they can't. They said once that X8's hardware is not capable of a smooth 2.3 Android... So now if they change their opinion, then everybody will laugh at them. Sad story, but com'on SE, just dig your own grave!
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No, People already laugh at them cuz we use Custom GingerBread and is Pretty smooth...Stock ginger from SE should be even smoother, but they just won't release it

Asycid said:
No, they can't. They said once that X8's hardware is not capable of a smooth 2.3 Android... So now if they change their opinion, then everybody will laugh at them. Sad story, but com'on SE, just dig your own grave!
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Soooo not true!!! Look at the members here at XDA. Most of us are running 2.2 or 2.3 ROMs smoothly. SE should think more before announcing these stuff.

Maybe I'm not wrote it understandable. I mean under my writing that SE can't change their mind because they stated a thing. I know we've got nice ROMs, but SE stated that it isn't possible... now if they make a 2.3 software, they'll just make ass from their mouth and this will not be good for their prestige.
I hope it is clear now what I'm thinking about, sorry for the inconveniences.
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That reminds me a situation that was something about 50 years ago. An guy from poland told that he can build computer that is smiliar size to case. Noone belived him and he made first small computer - K202. How much of them were produced? Only one. Comunist governement in poland send police to stop production and arest him.
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I change my mind.., this is a good news.., why dont we use this news to attack sony., if they have market strategi ,then we have customer strategi too., attack them with this news link in they forums.., and they other customer with see and with complain too.
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I hope that someone can port this (Clicky) to the X8
That new phone of SE is 2.3.

i really think that SE will change her minds again...at least here in my country we see loads of X8 for sale, or with discount to buy. It's good for them if the population buy their phones but they know already that noone will buy it at the moment if no upgrade for 2.3 is available.

i think that people who really want to wait for a official 2.3 rom from SE just need to wait till that marketing campaign of new xperia line ends. After that they will update all the other phones too. But till then they know that some people will get upset and buy one of the new xperias cause it has 2.3, hd, etc.

I hope that SE bring us some updates as far as the hardwares supports, by the way, I really appreciate the custom roms from devs, and shouldn´t change to stock ones

[RUMOR] X10 might get ICS officially!

Got this via PM:
someone said:
The x10 might be upgraded to ICS too.
There's an investigation currently and it looks
like the x10 might get ICS too. Not sure but maybe
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For all the haters: yes, it's still a rumor and even if it's true that they're investigating to upgrade it, they still can decide otherwise. I just wanted to let you know that Sony Ericsson didn't forget about the X10 completely.
I guess we're in the lucky position that the 2011's software is very easy for Sony to port to the X10 and therefore they can try to get some reputation for their improved update policies.
This rumor is coming from the same source that previously announced the Gingerbread update and the first SE dual-core phone "Nozomi" ahead of time, so I'm sure he's not trolling.
So please don't start flaming this post or thread. Everyone can decide for themselves if they want to believe or not. I just thought some of you would be interested and maybe reconsider an upgrade to another phone. (Although I'll probably upgrade to the Galaxy Nexus nonetheless )
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qwer23

hope so.......

I don't think the X10 is going to get official Sony ICS because it's an old device (sad but true). Yes SE has committed to the Android Handset Alliance which promised to give its phones 18 months of firmware upgrades whenever a new version of android is released in that period. However they joined the alliance after they released the Arc, so in fact we are already very lucky to get even GB.
Also, the X10 is way more than 18 months old now, which SE/Sony is not obliged to give us ICS (official)
Despite the chances of us getting Sony ICS is slim, we have official CM support now and we can hope that they'll build us an ICS update.

If its done than its for their good
Coz SE have a bad reputation for not keeping their phone software updated as they had done to x10 in the past by saying that this phone won't update beyond 2.1 but afterwards gave an update so the ICS update can be for improving their reputation in software updates but I don't believe this
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I really hope so, but in all reality, rumors are rumors...
*Scooby's coming*

Frosty666 said:
I really hope so, but in all reality, rumors are rumors...
*Scooby's coming*
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NOOOOO
And yeah, it's all rumors at this point. But I take it for granted that they're really investigating to bring it to the X10 and that they've probably a test device running. Even if you guys don't (and why would you?), I totally trust the guy that told me about it.

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I really hope so, but in all reality, rumors are rumors...
*Scooby's coming*
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Hahaha just coming to say that I don't buy it...
Saw too many of these types of rumors, it just doesn't seem plausible to me personally.
It'd be awesome for you guys though so I'd definitely be happy for you if it happens.

dream further......

Well we see what happens hopfully it does cause am not buying another phone yet ,i intend to ride my x10 out fully till it die out ,get my 500 bucks worth it shiiiiiit lol, if it don't happen well that xperia duo looks pretty sweet but umm i 'll wait for reviews first before i actully buy a damn sony phone again.

im relli gonna buy se phones for rest of my life if they do so

something to cheer with, for x10 users!

well it would make sense, the xperia is maybe almost 2 years old but still more worth than xperia play, neo (v), ray.
this means there is still some demand for our lovely rachael

cikomiko said:
well it would make sense, the xperia is maybe almost 2 years old but still more worth than xperia play, neo (v), ray.
this means there is still some demand for our lovely rachael
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How is it worth more than those?
It sure isn't where I'm from lol

I didnt check every shop, but on Amazon Germany it is more expensive by ~ 20-30 euros

cikomiko said:
I didnt check every shop, but on Amazon Germany it is more expensive by ~ 20-30 euros
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I don't see X10 is more expensive than Arc or Ray... They all are about 1-30€ for new subscriptions .
Xperia X10 is now a collector, but a very good one with android 2.3.3... (dreaming of v4)

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I didnt check every shop, but on Amazon Germany it is more expensive by ~ 20-30 euros
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That's retarded imo...
Performance wise any of those would whoop its ass.

theres still hope, but i think our amazing devs will pull something off anyway

danielk0302 said:
theres still hope, but i think our amazing devs will pull something off anyway
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That's for sure, and they'll be hell of a lot faster than SE But I think it would be great if this info turns out true because we'll get the proper drivers for a bugless ROM with all things working

ZeToken said:
I don't see X10 is more expensive than Arc or Ray... They all are about 1-30€ for new subscriptions .
Xperia X10 is now a collector, but a very good one with android 2.3.3... (dreaming of v4)
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I meant the hardware price, ie Xperia play 278 euros, x10 313 euros

Z3US911 said:
something to cheer with, for x10 users!
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More like something to give us hope for that likely won't happen.
By the way guys I heard from a friend of a friend who heard from a very reputable source that the X10 would continue to be supported until at least Android 6.0 . rumors are such an easy thing to make up.