Database Users

Battery saving tips for parents

Don't let Restaurant Story anywhere near the SGS2.
When the kids have gone to bed, you'll feel an irresistible urge to continue. And continue. And continue...
Yours sincerely,
Worried, Oslo.

..what?
Sent from my GT-I9100 using XDA App

Have you had a doctor test your clinical mentality?
Sent from my GT-I9100 using XDA App

got your point, but the thread is still pointless.
edit: omg.. got the point and still pointless?! I seriously should grab some sleep
Sent from my GT-I9100 using XDA App

yetep said:
Have you had a doctor test your clinical mentality?
Sent from my GT-I9100 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I am a doctor. And I say I'm sane.
Now if you'll just excuse me, I must talk to Napoleon. He communicates via a secret chip the Martians implanted in my bottom when I visited them in a previous life in 1801.

{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}

I thought there was supervisors to close these kind of posts.

Albertotuchi said:
I thought there was supervisors to close these kind of posts.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Says Senor 11-post.. trust me, you'll find much worse that's not moderated, assuming you find a ladder to get down from your high horse.
I believe you youngsters call it epic-fail-lolz or some such.
No matter. Bet not one of you posters is a parent, and Restaurant Story does indeed suck one's battery life, and hard.
Probably a spectacularly unsuccessful attempt to bring some levity to the proceedings and if I failed:
1 - I don't care.
2 - You're all a bunch of po-faced sourpusses. Yah boo sux to ya.
468 views and not one rating? C'mon boys - show your displeasure! Maintain the rage! I'll give it 1* to start you off.

Padded walls for the retard please.
Sent from my GT-I9100 using XDA App

Do you really have kids?

Starting to understand. I have a couple of those who finish your battery coming in a few days mate.
In some years when i need to entertaint them i will remember what i must not install from market.
I hit my head falling from my high horse, but do not judge people by the number of post. You may get wrong conclusions.
Be happy.
Enviado y punto.

Albertotuchi said:
Starting to understand. I have a couple of those who finish your battery coming in a few days mate.
In some years when i need to entertaint them i will remember what i must not install from market.
I hit my head falling from my high horse, but do not judge people by the number of post. You may get wrong conclusions.
Be happy.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sure there's plenty more games that do the same. I'm not a gamer myself, and my oldest has my old SGS for her games, but the kiddy-game market is growing. Apologies for my 11-post jibe, it was unnecessary.
TheSaw said:
Do you really have kids?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well, let's see... on three occasions that I fornicated with my wife, three offspring came out nine months later. I was there during all three of said occasions, and delivered the middle offspring (the gamer) myself.
So pretty sure, yes.

Bumping my own thread, I'm a bad man.
Your replies were very witty, and I laughed incessantly.
However, I'm right and you're all wrong. All these lavasoft games - Restaurant/Farm/Zoo Story really do drain battery quickly. A combo of wifi, bright colours and eager progeny is hardly conducive to prolonged battery life. They certainly drain it quicker than my boy's other games (e.g., Cut The Rope, Angry Birds).
And as a riposte to the slackjawed troglodyte quoted below:
yetep said:
Padded walls for the retard please.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
- take a look in the mirror.

If I would have kids, I wouldn't want them to surf the Internet alone. There's too much stuff out there inappropriate for children.
My kids would get an old phone, which you can only use for talking and sending text messages and for gaming a Nintendo DS.
Think about this instead of battery live! The cheapest solution isn't always the best

Aymara said:
If I would have kids, I wouldn't want them to surf the Internet alone. There's too much stuff out there inappropriate for children.
My kids would get an old phone, which you can only use for talking and sending text messages and for gaming a Nintendo DS.
Think about this instead of battery live! The cheapest solution isn't always the best
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I don't let them surf the net alone, under any circumstances. My middle kid is 7, and he's not getting a mobile before he's 10 (there's 6 year olds where I live tooled up with mobiles, which is ridiculous).
Any online games he plays are on my phone, always with me present, and no invites/social interaction without me vetting first. He has a DS and a Wii, and I don't allow online play with them.
Sad but true - as a parent you can't be too careful.

B3311 said:
Sad but true - as a parent you can't be too careful.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes, especially regarding internet. Too bad there's zero parential control in Android. I remember a father reporting, that his kid used in-game market to waiste 99$
A few weeks ago I saw a less than 10 year old girl in a bus with a Galaxy ... some parents don't seem to know, what they are doing.

GS2 falls from the sky... (and crashes to the ground)

In true, what goes up must come down - my phone went up ... and came back down - with a thud!
I attached my GS2 to an RC quadcopter using an array of balsa and hard wood, cable ties and foam and took to the skies. Since this is my phone, I have to rebuild a camera mount each time I fly and yesterday and today, I've had 4-5 flights with jello-wobble vibration video - and over beautiful fields too .. anyway, this was my third camera mount of the day and it worked! It did work... before it fell...
the RC quad it as attached to had the camera mount broken (I can make another), two broken props, and some nylon standoffs - on and a carbon fibre rod and LOTS of cable ties!
Sadly, an animal was harmed in the making of this video... a slug (or snail), jad a 1kg+ weight fall out of the sky directly upon it. I'm sorry - at least it was quick!
Oh, and the phone? Fine! Not a scratch or noticable fault - auto focus still works You can see the whole flight ...
I've not had much luck embedding on here so just in case ..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXEXRVsc9JY
The phone and quad WILL fly again but right now I'm off to sleep - it's been an interesting day!

One where the phone doesn't fall out of the sky
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbkJmkl3mD8

Really loving your vids, keep them up
Sent from my GT-I9100 using XDA

Awesome videos! What's the highest you've flown it?

Looks like a 30 meter drop? Surprised there's no damage!

jzmtl said:
Looks like a 30 meter drop? Surprised there's no damage!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It landed on grass and soil, doubtless that would have cushioned the impact. If it was solid concrete it will probably do worse.

My heart almost stopped watching it fall,and fall,and fall...Ouch.Madman.

When it hit the floor I farted.

got a big ding on the side after it fell to concrete blocks, i think i should be more careful now

Heli Cow.
Nice video.

Thanks for the great comments everyone.
Almost 24 hours later and I can find no fault with the phone. It was in a silicone case (one that wraps around the phone completely), encased in packing foam and then secured to a light wood mount. Unless the phone took a direct hit on something sharp, the only thing that would affect it is the inertia of the falling and sudden stop. Although I think when it was upside down, it was accelerating downwards!
The quad has breaking points such as the "feet" i made and just tied on. Mainly through ease but they've proved invaluable! Many ties reduce the impact and "break the fall" hopefully saving the quad and phone!
From yesterday, as far as I can tell, there's no damage to the phone. The only damage this phone has incurred was when I used an inferior case which didn't protect the top on my first or second flight and the quad arm vibrated a notch in the front .. GUTTED!
I don't have a reliable way of tracking the altitude yet but I think it was higher than 30m - though I could be wrong. Maybe 100m? Any suggesions and theories to the estimated height? Ideally, I'd like a GPS logger which was capable of running in the background and 1s intervals... Even just height

Looking forward for more vids.
Sent from my SGS2 powered by cm9 love

Great video. And i'm surprised to see that GS2 has so nice camcorder. Anyway...got to get myself one of those copters - seems like great fun.

chipko3k said:
Thanks for the great comments everyone.
Almost 24 hours later and I can find no fault with the phone. It was in a silicone case (one that wraps around the phone completely), encased in packing foam and then secured to a light wood mount. Unless the phone took a direct hit on something sharp, the only thing that would affect it is the inertia of the falling and sudden stop. Although I think when it was upside down, it was accelerating downwards!
The quad has breaking points such as the "feet" i made and just tied on. Mainly through ease but they've proved invaluable! Many ties reduce the impact and "break the fall" hopefully saving the quad and phone!
From yesterday, as far as I can tell, there's no damage to the phone. The only damage this phone has incurred was when I used an inferior case which didn't protect the top on my first or second flight and the quad arm vibrated a notch in the front .. GUTTED!
I don't have a reliable way of tracking the altitude yet but I think it was higher than 30m - though I could be wrong. Maybe 100m? Any suggesions and theories to the estimated height? Ideally, I'd like a GPS logger which was capable of running in the background and 1s intervals... Even just height
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It's hard to jugde the hight from the video. The recordings can trick you somethimes. But it's definetly more than 30m, maybe up to 100.
I regulary fly rc-sailplanes(5m wing span) and somethimes over 1000m (measured with a unit called Piccolario that transmits the height via VHF
You can't trust GPS hight readings.
You have to buy the new S3 that has a barometer

The autofocus after the fall was extremely comical. Excellent videos.
Sent from my Nexus S using XDA

nilste said:
It's hard to jugde the hight from the video. The recordings can trick you somethimes. But it's definetly more than 30m, maybe up to 100.
I regulary fly rc-sailplanes(5m wing span) and somethimes over 1000m (measured with a unit called Piccolario that transmits the height via VHF
You can't trust GPS hight readings.
You have to buy the new S3 that has a barometer
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
5m wingspan?! Wow! You need to duct tape your phone to one and fly (that's how I first started filming with my GS2... duct taped underneath pointing down)
I think I'll look into the Piccolario... thanks I would love to try out the S3, it's camera and barometer .. Samsug?!

Did the snail survived?
Sent from my i9100. No HyDrOG3NICS? No SWAGG..
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}

whats the DnB track of the 2nd video? tried to shazam it but no result
Nice videos!!

lol, great video

Paradoxxx said:
Did the snail survived?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sadly no The send off is on Saturday...
Randi said:
whats the DnB track of the 2nd video? tried to shazam it but no result
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It's Through the Air by Naibu-Aki
_________________
On a positive note, the quad is rebuilt and seems to be flyable (only tested slighty in my house). After a test flight and new camera mount, I'll be out making my phone fly again. All going well, there'll be more videos to come...
This time I will turn off WiFi, phone connectivity and make sure it's in FLIGHT MODE. I take it this was why Android has this feature?! I mean what else could it be for?
Speaking of the phone, it has been performing fine (although, I'm not sure my HSPDA/3G connectivity is faulty because of phone antenna jolt or provider problems (TalkMobile). Still testing. It connects, just sometimes doesn't.
Thanks once again for all the great comments and the views - they are appreciated

Fun with extended battery

Battery life is one option or... the official extended battery that doesn't make the phone gigantic and the following settings can make the phone like an overclocked core I 7
The following settings make the phone so smooth, no super tweaked governor beats this
Also the gpu is locked at 267. Nice with the f1 ics rom with working gpu acceleration.
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk 2

Damned man, this is an incredible tweak... One of the best useful one for making your phone hottest and burn out components more quickly than Flash.
Nice dangerous tip mate

You sure?
My phone feels cold. All over...
The fool picture is funny.
Take his advice unless your weather is something like this.
Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk 2

Had an experiment with the interactive governor.
Got thinking maybe even if there's no obvious heat coming out of the phone the CPU PWM's might start screaming for mercy as they are not designed to be loaded for extended periods of time.
This seems to be surprisingly just as responsive as the 1.4ghz locked performance setting.
Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk 2

so you want the phone to run overclocked at a permanent 1.4?
And you think thats a good thing for it?

I think I posted something at 12:26 a whole 12 minutes before your post where I did express a change of heart over the whole perm 1.4ghz idea.
In any case, if there is any actual evidence based on fact and science specific to the capabilities of the hardware in the sgs2 as to whether or not running high frequency at all times would damage the pwm's it'd be appreciated.
Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk 2

Visentinel said:
In any case, if there is any actual evidence based on fact and science specific to the capabilities of the hardware in the sgs2 as to whether or not running high frequency at all times would damage the pwm's it'd be appreciated.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
the fact that samsung's team of engineers don't ship the phone like that would probably be evidence enough

Oh god. Please don't do this people.

Visentinel said:
I think I posted something at 12:26 a whole 12 minutes before your post where I did express a change of heart over the whole perm 1.4ghz idea.
In any case, if there is any actual evidence based on fact and science specific to the capabilities of the hardware in the sgs2 as to whether or not running high frequency at all times would damage the pwm's it'd be appreciated.
Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk 2
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
no, you said you were trying something else. Not that your original idea was stupid

I thought SGN used the same chip as S2, so shouldn't exynos 4210 be able to run 1.4 Ghz out of the box? It'll suck up a lot of battery though.

I am all for SGS2 users to boldly go forth with mods .
Just let us know at what point it explodes .
Overclock = heat and wear of components however will they wear out before you change your phone ??
jje

Yeah the sgn is the same cpu clocked to 1.4, however it does have space for a bigger battery
Sent from my GT-I9100 using Xparent ICS Blue Tapatalk 2

shr33kant said:
Yeah the sgn is the same cpu clocked to 1.4, however it does have space for a bigger battery
Sent from my GT-I9100 using Xparent ICS Blue Tapatalk 2
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
is it clocked to ONLY run at 1.4? Doubt it

Will probably have to start puttin the phone in the fridge..................

Nice to see at least 2 or 3 people post comments here relevant to the topic instead of fishing out useless remarks and insults. (Which seems to be the norm on XDA allot these days)
Ah so there is another product clocking at 1.4 stock. Good to hear.
My own research into the components haven't yielded anything concrete yet.
What I did find is that the maxim max8997 does have 7 step down convertors and 21 linear regulators.
I wonder if that means it has a 7 stage pwm? Who knows.
Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk 2

OK looks like its the max8627 from maxim ic.
The chip has a Max load of 3.5 watts however in practice we must take car not to exceed the chips maximum dissipation of 1457mw or milliwatts.
Basically this is our total phone power draw envelope. Now I will begin figuring out what our limits are. Could be use full for people ovrrclocking up to 1697mhz.
Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk 2

I also do wonder about the age span of components when you do such experiments. At the very least if you do wear it out, the Galaxy S3 will be available (and if you do not want that one the S2 will be selling cheaper on ebay lol)

crachel said:
the fact that samsung's team of engineers don't ship the phone like that would probably be evidence enough
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i think samsung under clocked the phone to save battery life

hey what kind of battery are you using,
tell me the capacity of the battery you are using

Overclocking is a bad idea for such a powerful phone in a compact design with no heat dissipation. My computers overclocjed to 5ghz but that's coz its water cooled. I would suggest if you want to use 1400mhz set it to a high threshold so its only used when absolutely necessary. A permanent overclock WILL damage your components
Sent from my GT-I9100 using XDA

[RADIATION] Note 1 vs 2 vs 3, CNET+Samsung Official Results

Introductory:
Hello all, cell phones produce radiation just in case you did not know. These radiation levels are measured in a value called SAR(Specific Absorbtion Rate) and it literally is the measurement of just the bottom line of what the human body absorbs, rather than just the amount that it radiating(ha, get it?) around the device. Radiation is bad in the human body where it is directly related to certain issues, including directly reducing bone density in the body. I am posting this as an accurate informational thread where you can draw your own conclusions based off of facts.
SAR Levels:
SAR, which stands for Specific Absorbtion Rate, levels fluctuate depending on numerous factors, in which we must go over in order to accurately understand. The key thing to understand is that the further the device is from your body, the levels begin to diminish by the milimeter(mm).
For a phone to receive an FCC certification, the device cannot have a SAR level of more than 1.6 watts per kilogram in the US, and 2.0 in Europe.
Galaxy Note Series Tests by Samsung:
Let's take a look at the Note series in order to keep this sequential and easier to remember from a timeline fashion of perspective. The Galaxy Note 1 was released first(obviously) and is the model number SGH-I717 for reference. Taken from Samsung's website directly, here are the Note 1 results, including the way that they perform their own measurements:
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
You can see in this writing the methods that are used for testing, and that the body specific SAR tests have the device at 1.0 centimeters(CM), equivalent to 10 millimeters(mm) away. Keep this in mind and we'll touch up on this later.
And here are the Note 2 specific values:
And here are the Note 3 specific values:
So as you can see the comparisons above, the Note 3 effectively produces 153% more Head SAR than the Note 2, and 196% more Head SAR than the Note 1!
I would calculate the Body SAR differences but we have a big problem with Samsung's specific tests...they test these values with the device 1.0 CM(or 10mm) away from the body. This Body SAR calculation is useless to you if your phone presses against your body at 0 mm away!
Let's think...why would Samsung measure in this fashion at 1.0 CM away? Well the Note 3 produces 1.28 Body SAR at 1.0 cm away, so the big question is what would it produce at 0 mm away/ AKA in your pants pocket? Maybe it would exceed the FCC limitation of 1.6?
CNET Testing:
Now let's take a look at a recent test performed by CNET on 1/16/14 to see what they have found in differences in the Note series in particular:
The above is literally all of the information they posted where it is tough to tell how the test was performed and/or what body part it was performed against. By comparing the numbers, it seems as though they tested the head only since it matches the Head SAR values by Samsung.
But there is only but one main discrepency...the Note 3 reads 0.63 SAR value by Samsung, while CNET tested it at 0.9 SAR. Which one holds true?
Device Model Top Charts:
As you can see in the following results, our devices do not hold the highest SAR values compared to the worst out there *ehem* Motorola!
And here are the lowest SAR values amonst all devices. Keep in mind how the Note 2 is 4th lowest.
Theorycrafting:
I researched more into studies being performed per the distance of an object from humans and have found some interesting results.
Here is a model of the human head for reference, spefical model for SAR testing:
And here is are one test's results from testing the SAR levels after altering different distances:
This is just me tipping the iceberg to not go on and on.
Shifting gears toward current events, check out 2/14/14's event of the Army buying 7,000 Note 2's for its troops HERE
The reason why I feel that this is relevant is that they definitely would not want to have their troops being exposed to radiation levels higher than other devices. What makes more sense though is that they tested it for quite some time before it was rolled out, but who knows?
General Radiation Reduction Techniques:
-Consider a cell phone radiation reduction case, Google Pong research to get started since I'm probably not allowed to post links
-Consider buying a device with low SAR levels
-Keep the device out of your pocket or anywhere where it is directly against your skin. Even a hip holster might help keep it a few cm away, or carry it in a purse/backpack.
-Use speakerphone as often as possible to keep the device far from your head.
-Devices use the most radiation when beggining and ending calls. Pull the phone away from your head, even if just a few centimeters, when beginning and ending calls.
-Devices also use high radiation when "hunting for a signal". This occurs when your device has no signal, and needs to omit more power consistently to find one. So keep it away at these times.
-Bluetooth uses less radiation, but overall can be more damage from keeping it on your head for long periods of time. LOSE THE BLUETOOTH!
-Text instead of calling whenever it is applicable/feasible
-Don't sleep with the device near your head....think about it, 6+ hours of it so close to your head...
-Last things I wanted to mention are beefing up on certain things you eat.
a.) Eat seaweed, it's very powerful against radiation
b.) Look for natural supplements that particularly repair already damaged cells in your body from radiation. They are alpha lipoic acid and vitamins C and E
Conclusion:
Considering all of the above along with knowing that we are the guinea pigs for long term cell phone radiation, I strongly feel that it's best to consider SAR levels when purchasing a device. The SAR levels are obviously increasing with each new model being released and should be monitored closely.
It seems to show as being a factor toward brain tumors and bone density loss in only 1 of 2 legs in people(where they always kept their cell phone in the same pocket). I did not go much into detail here about these particular researches/tests, but I would recommend to now start looking into the tests performed for "decade-long cell phone radiation exposures". Imagine us after 50 years of exposure, and please feel free to comment here.
Your voice and opinions matter in this world, and you should speak up since you have a right to your own opinions, and I will respect it no matter what. I will post this across multiple forums that it belongs in and moderators, please let me know if I happen to post this in a forbidden section. Don't censor truth, and let the thread live.
Thank you for your time reading all of this and I hope it helps. If so, please rate the thread 5 stars and hit Thanks solely to promote the spreading of the word.

reserved

Very interesting. Thanks for your time
Sent from my GT-N7100 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app

Foka002 said:
Very interesting. Thanks for your time
Sent from my GT-N7100 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You're welcome! It's actual an honor to bring this to your attention for your well being

Do you mean Bluetooth headset?
Sent from my GT-N7100 using Tapatalk

Smartwear radiation

Hello,
I'm just curious,what are potential health hazzards wearing all this smartwear 24/7 like smartband? It's bluetooth tech but is laying totally on the skin. And all this area(wifi,bluetooth...) of potential problems is totally grey...

MartiniWisdom said:
Hello,
I'm just curious,what are potential health hazzards wearing all this smartwear 24/7 like smartband? It's bluetooth tech but is laying totally on the skin. And all this area(wifi,bluetooth...) of potential problems is totally grey...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You're joking right?
Sent from my Nexus 5 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app

No, I wanna hear others what they think. Don't wanna find a bump in my wrist after 5years of wearing smartband 24/7...

MartiniWisdom said:
No, I wanna hear others what they think. Don't wanna find a bump in my wrist after 5years of wearing smartband 24/7...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
First: there are not smartbands with android wear yet.
Second: If you are really concerned about the EM-emission you should go live in the woods. You're surrounded by it anyway, whether you wear a smart device or not. Phones, TV, WIFI routers, telephone signals, microwaves etc etc. You know where this is going. The power of the bluetooth connection is incredibly small compared to the power eg microwaves give out. In our modern world you can't protect yourself against this kind of radiation. Maybe wear a tinfoil hat.
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
MartiniWisdom said:
And all this area(wifi,bluetooth...) of potential problems is totally grey...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Why do you think that? wireless transmission exists since 1896 and there hasn't been a single case where someone got ill from it.

I have smartband SWR10. But you're right, wrong subforum apparently, not android wear..
Don't be so cinical. You would shurely like to put me in a "Chemtrails bucket" but please don't. Currently there are no evidence that prolong exposure to routers and bluetooth is causing illness. And so is the opposite, there are no evidence that prolong exposure to routers and bluetooth is not causing illness because people do get seriously ill... Microwaves do radiate but we are using them rarely(I cook very often so don't need microwave often), on wifi router I'm not sitting, so am not sitting on mobile phone or carrying it in my pocket, also with TV there is a distance over 3m... This bluetooth is in use all the time and totally on the skin so maybe it builds up over time in a tissue I know what you are talking about and that all that emiting crap is around us all the time but the strenght of emission do fall with higher distance from the source... Also the air is poluted so yea, you are right but why put more oil on the fire?
As for woods, the day will come when we will all wish to go live in the woods but there will be no woods, just scorched earth or big brader at the other end

MartiniWisdom said:
Currently there are no evidence that prolong exposure to routers and bluetooth is causing illness. And so is the opposite, there are no evidence that prolong exposure to routers and bluetooth is not causing illness because people do get seriously ill
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hm I really don't like that way of arguing. In my opinion things that haven't been proven don't exist, so yea I don't believe in god because of this either (please don't hate me ^^). So if there is no evidence that it causes illness why think it does? It's hard to prove that they don't cause any harm, because that's kind of the definition. How do you prove the non-existence of something?
I see you point that if things are new there is not enough evidence for either of both opinions but as I said wireless technologies like wlan or bluetooth in our phones / watches / TVs / etc really aren't new anymore. They have been around for quite some time (10+ years for the new ones like bluetooth and way longer for general wireless transmission) and no one found any actual evidence for them being harmful in any way, simply because the power they emit is way too low compared to the energy that is around as all the time anyway. One might as well be frightened of the radioactive emissions from our universe.. I think I made my point here Feel free to think otherwise xD
MartiniWisdom said:
As for woods, the day will come when we will all wish to go live in the woods but there will be no woods, just scorched earth or big brader at the other end
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Lets hope not.

I'm not gonna hate you and you again are impleing that with "bucket of believers" thing. Don't do that,god has nothing to do with this and we are closer in thoughts in that subject
Nevertheless, maybe he is sending deep space radiation, who knows, the mass histeria is surelly present...
Just kidding... (on this,I was serious on subject)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2828541

If I were to be worried about anything, it would be the cell networks. I mean think about it, every carrier's network - 2G, 3G and LTE/4G - are constantly coursing through and around you. But in the end, it's totally harmless. We're bombarded with huge ranges of frequencies all day long and there isn't so much as a hint of damage.

this is a joke... right?
this is a joke, right? i mean, the food that you eat is more likely to cause you harm than Bluetooth LE, or radio waves for that matter.

The most of food that I eat is mine and is home grown in country side

I'm mostly worried about solar radiation. That sh*t hurts.

johnus said:
I'm mostly worried about solar radiation. That sh*t hurts.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
lul. and don't forget the radioactive food

I'm mostly worried about people don't giving a sh*it... And consumers that change their phones every few months,waste manufacturers... pompose people that think they are so smart and cool... and junk food which they think is healthy... Luulzzz. Loulz. Lel. Lol.

My wrist started to grow a vagina. It's right where the pins touch my skin

fr0st420 said:
My wrist started to grow a vagina. It's right where the pins touch my skin
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
How does it taste?

fr0st420 said:
My wrist started to grow a vagina. It's right where the pins touch my skin
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'd be more worried about the smell...

stombie18 said:
I'd be more worried about the smell...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse

Rofl

OK, interest thread and solved my problem :angel:

fr0st420 said:
My wrist started to grow a vagina. It's right where the pins touch my skin
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Your wrist and I should hang out some time :good:
(To several posters in general)
The OP does have a legitimate question and shouldn't be written off as a nut for asking it. Too often people grow to just 'accept' things based on fuzzy logic, group consensus, and leave it at that. This is not the way to live and learn any thing. Fact is, there are mounds of people with health issues that didn't begin until their living environments became grotesquely overrun with these emissions. People who sold their homes, moved, and report remarkable feelings of well being since. They have no agenda other than feeling better. These people were all written off as crazy as well.
And this fuzzy logic about us being bombarded constantly by networks around us? Outer space? Lovely. That does nothing to attest to 'proximity' and 'intensity' or how they relate. Then people go on to mix examples of ionizing radiation with non-ionizing radiation. You couldn't come to less of a scientific conclusion if you tried and you made fun of someone in the process. And while the majority of the studies on the matter have proven inconsistent results, that does not equivocate to insanity for considering it.
Fact is, if non-ionizing radiation is harmless in your mind; Go remove your microwave door, rig the safety switch, and have a meal on me. Which leads me to the SAR rating for microwave emission exposure, which was completely disregarded here. As people hurl 'you're crazy' around and allow more and more wireless devices into their proximity you compound your overall exposure rate.
If the OP want's a specific answer; We don't know. Use at your own risk.