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Performance is horrible

I recently setup apps2sd on my g1 with 1.5. I also use swapper and since I setup apps2sd, performance has been horrendous with or without swap on. Has anyone else experienced this? Is there a fix? Is my card just too slow? I don't know what class it is. Thanks for the advice

if your card doesn't have a 6 on it....its too slow.
did you buy a new card other than the one the G1 came with?

My apps are a little slower to startup after apps2sd but I figure it's worth it to have 100 X's more capacity.

It's not the stock card and I'm assuming it's not a class 6. However, I went back to using stock home instead of openhome and performance increased dramatically. Apparently openhome uses too much memory and causes other apps to swap to the same card it pulls apps from.

AbsoluteDesignz said:
if your card doesn't have a 6 on it....its too slow.
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I'm tired of repeating that SD classes are only a rating for minimum sustained write speed. Maximum speeds are usually significantly higher, and vary from card to card based on the size of the file written.

Right, but if you make one that qualifies as a class 6, you wouldn't write a 2 on it unless you're a moron and want to undervalue it.

bmk789 said:
I recently setup apps2sd on my g1 with 1.5. I also use swapper and since I setup apps2sd, performance has been horrendous with or without swap on. Has anyone else experienced this? Is there a fix? Is my card just too slow? I don't know what class it is. Thanks for the advice
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Did you use the JF1.5 Lucid modded one? try not moving the data/cache to sd. That was the problem i was having. When i moved it over, it was verrrry sluggish.

bmk789 said:
It's not the stock card and I'm assuming it's not a class 6. However, I went back to using stock home instead of openhome and performance increased dramatically. Apparently openhome uses too much memory and causes other apps to swap to the same card it pulls apps from.
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Try DXtop instead of openhome.

yes, im using JF but i dont think I copied over any apps or cache. performance is slightly better since I upgraded and wiped but still doesn't feel like what it should be. maybe I will buy a new card

bmk789 said:
yes, im using JF but i dont think I copied over any apps or cache. performance is slightly better since I upgraded and wiped but still doesn't feel like what it should be. maybe I will buy a new card
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The new Dude build is pretty fast. Give it a try.

To all people who flashed with gold card

To all people who flashed with Gold Card method, please make or if you just did it, report your spb benchmark in order to verify if it has something to do with a general low performance profile.
Thanx so much.

http://forum.revskills.de/viewforum.php?f=13. It seems that it would be possible to revert back to the situation before using Gold Card and that it has to do with ARM processor. I don't have the knowledge to face the kind of problems but it seems that my CPU low performance has something to do with Gold Card method used. So please help me to find out what has happend!
Thx so much!

I used the Goldcard quite some time ago.
The first effect was that my phone actually got a speed boost.
Maybe the specialists at the forum which you linked can be more helpful?

Hi,
Gold card has nothing to do with speed, it writes some code to the SD card to make your device think that it is a Service Center loader flashing a rom to your device.
this is why gold card ONLY works for OFFICIAL roms and not cooked.
your speed issue is something else. maybe your rom!!
also the HD2 has CPU scaling on it, there are many people here who have checked the speed of the HD2 CPU and found it not to be 1000MHz as advertised, but this is because the processor is in a low power state, and it scales up when it is needed to calculate something.
what rom are you using?
MG

Originally Posted by bobsbbq View Post
Well I have done some testing. I can 100 % say that on my ROM's flashing without Storage card does make a difference. The benchmarks are faster, but more importantly it is more smooth and stable. I will be instructing all my users to flash without storage card, not for the benchmarks but for better stability.
There is some strange things going on with the storage card ever since the Documents tab was introduced. This has also led to problems with Extendir.
I suspect that they could be related.
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Not really related but kind of. Also look <<HERE>> additional confirmation that taking out the SD Card = Performance Gain.
Weird, I know..
As for the gold card performance loss, actually that sounds just as weird...

ultimate phone guide... ie How to setup your phone to run the fastest please.

i'm just curious if there is a way or a guide on how to setup your phone to be the most efficient and fastest that it can offer?
what i'm really asking is there a tweakers guide to making the WILDFIRE run as smoothly as possible..
Also i'm wondering if there is a specific way to setup your sd card so that your phone could utilize some of the space on the card so that it could use it as ram at all so that the phone may respond a little faster.

Yes there are several ways...one of them is to change your wildfire for desire..
I am just fooling around...
I think you should look for cyogen rom or some ono that is faster that stock and overclock your processor and I thing thats the only way to improve performance significantly,all other ways are not much or not at all worth your atencion...and thats just my apinion.

There's very little you can do really, as stated above, and this is probably why there's no guide.
* Install an AOSP Based Custom ROM (Openfire or CM)
* OC your CPU
* Have as less background apps running as possible.
Not much else you can do.
As for using the SD Card as RAM, I am pretty sure its not possible. Besides, logically, the SD Card is way slower than Flash RAM, so, using it as a RAM device will actually cause the phone to slow down and lag.

thanks guys... been a big help.
Also one last thing..
i hear that there are different classes of sd card.. What card should i be looking at to upgrade to as i have a standard 2GB SD and wanted to know a little more about it ... any ideas please would be great

A Class 4 card should suffice. Anything above that doesn't give majorly noticeable results on the Wildfire.

A2SD + data = very slow?

Hi,
my /data partition is nearly full so I thought about using data2ext. I read the code which is used by data2ext and decided to try it with A2SD and simply move /data/data to SD and create a symlink.
This also worked but the performance dropped significantly. Android and Apps started much slower. I had lags everytime I saved/changed something. I read that data2ext should boost the perfomance so I'm a bit confused. Why is my performance so bad? Is this because I symlinked or what? Is it possible to get much better performance with the real data2ext?
I use a Kingston 16GB class 4 SD card (benchmark on windows said 14MB/s read and 0.7ms seek) with ext2 (formated like recommended in data2ext thread).

You should only be using data2sd and the performance depends greatly on the speed of your SD card.
Sent from my HTC Legend using XDA App

Why would you use data2ext and a2sd at the same time? It does not make sense...If you have a fast SD, data2ext is a good way...but it has to be genuinly fast, not just high class

Dr.Romca said:
Why would you use data2ext and a2sd at the same time? It does not make sense...If you have a fast SD, data2ext is a good way...but it has to be genuinly fast, not just high class
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I didn't say I use both at the same time. I use A2SD and moved /data/data to SD.
A really fast SD card is expensive so I think moving /data/data to SD is not an option for most people. There seems to be no cheap way for me at the moment.

ponchofiesta said:
I didn't say I use both at the same time. I use A2SD and moved /data/data to SD.
A really fast SD card is expensive so I think moving /data/data to SD is not an option for most people. There seems to be no cheap way for me at the moment.
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8gb class 6 works fine for me.

I've read some SD card tests and these classes seem not to be riliable. For example my old 8gb class 2 is faster than my new 16gb class 4.

I'm using a 32gb class 2 and I noticed a significant improvement however my quadrant score barely changed
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Do you know the exact name of your card?

have you tried this? i'm using 3072, cl6 transcend, darktremor data2sd (comes with his a2sd mod, still in beta but i find it more stable than --with all due respect-- TGF's version)

Just tried data2sd from A2SD. At first it seemed to delete my system apps (contacts, mms, calendar...). After a second reboot most of them were there again.
But the performance was still bad.

Data2SD

Any ROMs (or voodoo kernels) for the Fascinate supporting this yet? I've got a class10 16GB SD in mine and would love to see what kind of (of any) performance boost I could get out of that.
I know the internal memory is crap...even with Voodoo and from what I understand, throwing data on the Class10 could theoretically improve performance dramatically.
Am I way off base on this?