Performance is horrible - G1 General

I recently setup apps2sd on my g1 with 1.5. I also use swapper and since I setup apps2sd, performance has been horrendous with or without swap on. Has anyone else experienced this? Is there a fix? Is my card just too slow? I don't know what class it is. Thanks for the advice

if your card doesn't have a 6 on it....its too slow.
did you buy a new card other than the one the G1 came with?

My apps are a little slower to startup after apps2sd but I figure it's worth it to have 100 X's more capacity.

It's not the stock card and I'm assuming it's not a class 6. However, I went back to using stock home instead of openhome and performance increased dramatically. Apparently openhome uses too much memory and causes other apps to swap to the same card it pulls apps from.

AbsoluteDesignz said:
if your card doesn't have a 6 on it....its too slow.
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I'm tired of repeating that SD classes are only a rating for minimum sustained write speed. Maximum speeds are usually significantly higher, and vary from card to card based on the size of the file written.

Right, but if you make one that qualifies as a class 6, you wouldn't write a 2 on it unless you're a moron and want to undervalue it.

bmk789 said:
I recently setup apps2sd on my g1 with 1.5. I also use swapper and since I setup apps2sd, performance has been horrendous with or without swap on. Has anyone else experienced this? Is there a fix? Is my card just too slow? I don't know what class it is. Thanks for the advice
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Did you use the JF1.5 Lucid modded one? try not moving the data/cache to sd. That was the problem i was having. When i moved it over, it was verrrry sluggish.

bmk789 said:
It's not the stock card and I'm assuming it's not a class 6. However, I went back to using stock home instead of openhome and performance increased dramatically. Apparently openhome uses too much memory and causes other apps to swap to the same card it pulls apps from.
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Try DXtop instead of openhome.

yes, im using JF but i dont think I copied over any apps or cache. performance is slightly better since I upgraded and wiped but still doesn't feel like what it should be. maybe I will buy a new card

bmk789 said:
yes, im using JF but i dont think I copied over any apps or cache. performance is slightly better since I upgraded and wiped but still doesn't feel like what it should be. maybe I will buy a new card
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The new Dude build is pretty fast. Give it a try.

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X1 low performace after flashing new official ROM upgrade

Hello
I've flashe new ROM from SE (Vodafone UK image APP_SW_X1i_VFE_UK_CDF1215-0285_KOV_R2AA007).
I ran SKTools benchmark before and had results as below (without tweaks):
Integer;327.3780;Moves/25 usec
Floating point;7.399;MWIPS
RAM access;1471;Speed index
Draw bitmaps;788;Speed index
Main storage (write);10326.05;KB/sec
Main storage (read);16786.89;KB/sec
Storage Card (write); 652.30;KB/sec
Storage Card (read);2084.12;KB/sec
Now the test results after upgrading:
Integer;327.5500;Moves/25 usec
Floating point;7.499;MWIPS
RAM access;1516;Speed index
Draw bitmaps;776;Speed index
Main storage (write);2133.33;KB/sec
Main storage (read);7102.89;KB/sec
Storage Card (write); 983.04;KB/sec
Storage Card (read);6212.34;KB/sec
As You see, performance of mainstorage is poor.
Please write your experiences.
re
me the same, look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=459328&page=32
but subjective the device seems faster
hmm interesting, however from what i've seen around the forums, I believe SKtools benchmarks don't really provide very accurate results . . .
Other strange thing is that it's almost impossible to improwe performance using those well known tweaks (filesystem cache, glyph buffering ...)
mobilemodman said:
hmm interesting, however from what i've seen around the forums, I believe SKtools benchmarks don't really provide very accurate results . . .
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Well I used to repeat SKTools benchmark few times and use statistic theorem
So that results are stable. In fact running benchmark for the first time usually gives wrong results (differing from average).
@ macko - yep that is true aswell, however running the benchmark is so time consuming, I dont think anyone would actually bother getting all those statistics
mobilemodman said:
@ macko - yep that is true aswell, however running the benchmark is so time consuming, I dont think anyone would actually bother getting all those statistics
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My loved wife says the same
have you tried spb benchmark?
First of all, despite of the memory benchmarks, the results are quite the same. So what basically changed is the speed of Flash-Rom access, where the internal memory got slower and the external (memory card) appearently faster.
Did you have installed the SD card tweak on the previous and/or new ROM. It was said to be the only tweak really significantly improve the speed at all.
I also think that the memory card speed subjectively is quite low with the old ROM. The question now is: What's more important, high internal memory speed or high memory card speed. I'd go for the first since most applications are stored in the internal memory but that depends.
Does it also occur with other types of the new ROM, I mean from other manufacturers or without branding. I read that they differ slightly, so that could have an influence too.
fards said:
have you tried spb benchmark?
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I would like to but there was no sense if I didn't previously tested with it. Can anybody post results obtained using spb benchmark? (before - after)
Dandie said:
First of all, despite of the memory benchmarks, the results are quite the same. So what basically changed is the speed of Flash-Rom access, where the internal memory got slower and the external (memory card) appearently faster.
Did you have installed the SD card tweak on the previous and/or new ROM. It was said to be the only tweak really significantly improve the speed at all.
I also think that the memory card speed subjectively is quite low with the old ROM. The question now is: What's more important, high internal memory speed or high memory card speed. I'd go for the first since most applications are stored in the internal memory but that depends.
Does it also occur with other types of the new ROM, I mean from other manufacturers or without branding. I read that they differ slightly, so that could have an influence too.
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Hi Dandie,
the tweak was installed on both roms branded old/unbranded new,
on the branded rom the sd read and write was very faster after installing the sdcardtool
but
with the new rom the benchmark results are slower and much more with the tweak
i'm assuming updating the rom wipes the phone clean back to factory settings? i'd hate to have to reinstall everything?!
@ stats101: Right!
rookie333 said:
Hi Dandie,
the tweak was installed on both roms branded old/unbranded new,
on the branded rom the sd read and write was very faster after installing the sdcardtool
but
with the new rom the benchmark results are slower and much more with the tweak
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Ahm. what??? What I would like to see are benchmarks without the tweak, from both, old and new ROM. Did anyone try that?
Anyone with R2A can use SPB Benchmark please?
It's more accurated for a real use.
Then I post my result of R1A hardresetted.
Thx.
Dandie said:
Ahm. what??? What I would like to see are benchmarks without the tweak, from both, old and new ROM. Did anyone try that?
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hi dandie,
the benchmark from old rom i remember, was a little bit lower than the new rom without tweak.
anyway, i don't thrust the benchmark and the tweaks, because the system feels a bit faster, with or without tweak, there's no different.
Benchmarks ? Here we go !
Darth Sith said:
Anyone with R2A can use SPB Benchmark please?
It's more accurated for a real use.
Then I post my result of R1A hardresetted.
Thx.
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Have a look here :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3242912#post3242912
In my POV mine runs pretty faster and stable
Curiously enough, benchmarks point towards the other direction
I ain't going back: I prefer "real feel" over cold benchmarks
gtrab said:
In my POV mine runs pretty faster and stable
Curiously enough, benchmarks point towards the other direction
I ain't going back: I prefer "real feel" over cold benchmarks
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Me neither !
My feelings are the same as yours ... !
I upgraded to R2A a few days ago on my x1a, and I couldn't really notice any significant difference in speed between the two firmwares just from day to day use. However, when I loaded up the HTC youtube app, I found the new firmware to clearly have quite a lot of difficulty playing back clips at high quality with dropped frames, desynced audio, etc, whereas the same youtube clips would play flawlessly on my R1A Xperia. Also, I feel like video playback is more choppy in the Media panel, although Coreplayer playback is still the same as before. I have reflashed my x1a twice with the R2A firmware, and both times video playback performance suffered. Now I'm back to R1A and video is working fine. Does anyone else have this problem?

ultimate phone guide... ie How to setup your phone to run the fastest please.

i'm just curious if there is a way or a guide on how to setup your phone to be the most efficient and fastest that it can offer?
what i'm really asking is there a tweakers guide to making the WILDFIRE run as smoothly as possible..
Also i'm wondering if there is a specific way to setup your sd card so that your phone could utilize some of the space on the card so that it could use it as ram at all so that the phone may respond a little faster.
Yes there are several ways...one of them is to change your wildfire for desire..
I am just fooling around...
I think you should look for cyogen rom or some ono that is faster that stock and overclock your processor and I thing thats the only way to improve performance significantly,all other ways are not much or not at all worth your atencion...and thats just my apinion.
There's very little you can do really, as stated above, and this is probably why there's no guide.
* Install an AOSP Based Custom ROM (Openfire or CM)
* OC your CPU
* Have as less background apps running as possible.
Not much else you can do.
As for using the SD Card as RAM, I am pretty sure its not possible. Besides, logically, the SD Card is way slower than Flash RAM, so, using it as a RAM device will actually cause the phone to slow down and lag.
thanks guys... been a big help.
Also one last thing..
i hear that there are different classes of sd card.. What card should i be looking at to upgrade to as i have a standard 2GB SD and wanted to know a little more about it ... any ideas please would be great
A Class 4 card should suffice. Anything above that doesn't give majorly noticeable results on the Wildfire.

[App] SD Speed Increase

Anyone try this app on the Inc? It does make the SD card read/write much faster. I was wondering if it was bad for the phone or the card to do this. Seems ok so far and the app was free.
Yes, I've tried it on my Inc. I'm running CM7 with Chad's incredikernel and the app didn't make any difference for me, regardless of what I set it to. I also tried manually adjusting the read_ahead files, in the off-chance that the app itself just wasn't working. I still haven't been able to achieve any performance increase.
According to Chad, however, my lack of a result is normal given my setup:
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Adjusting the cache doesn't help much on .37 like it did on previous kernels.
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From what I've read, the effectiveness of this method also depends on the card you're using.
Works great for me on Redemption Rom. No waiting to load thumbnails and phone feels a bit smoother
DROID Incredible
Yeah, been using it for a few days now and its a lot better. I would recommend this app to anyone with a larger SD card especially if you have a lot of stuff on it. its FREE!

A2SD + data = very slow?

Hi,
my /data partition is nearly full so I thought about using data2ext. I read the code which is used by data2ext and decided to try it with A2SD and simply move /data/data to SD and create a symlink.
This also worked but the performance dropped significantly. Android and Apps started much slower. I had lags everytime I saved/changed something. I read that data2ext should boost the perfomance so I'm a bit confused. Why is my performance so bad? Is this because I symlinked or what? Is it possible to get much better performance with the real data2ext?
I use a Kingston 16GB class 4 SD card (benchmark on windows said 14MB/s read and 0.7ms seek) with ext2 (formated like recommended in data2ext thread).
You should only be using data2sd and the performance depends greatly on the speed of your SD card.
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Why would you use data2ext and a2sd at the same time? It does not make sense...If you have a fast SD, data2ext is a good way...but it has to be genuinly fast, not just high class
Dr.Romca said:
Why would you use data2ext and a2sd at the same time? It does not make sense...If you have a fast SD, data2ext is a good way...but it has to be genuinly fast, not just high class
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I didn't say I use both at the same time. I use A2SD and moved /data/data to SD.
A really fast SD card is expensive so I think moving /data/data to SD is not an option for most people. There seems to be no cheap way for me at the moment.
ponchofiesta said:
I didn't say I use both at the same time. I use A2SD and moved /data/data to SD.
A really fast SD card is expensive so I think moving /data/data to SD is not an option for most people. There seems to be no cheap way for me at the moment.
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8gb class 6 works fine for me.
I've read some SD card tests and these classes seem not to be riliable. For example my old 8gb class 2 is faster than my new 16gb class 4.
I'm using a 32gb class 2 and I noticed a significant improvement however my quadrant score barely changed
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Do you know the exact name of your card?
have you tried this? i'm using 3072, cl6 transcend, darktremor data2sd (comes with his a2sd mod, still in beta but i find it more stable than --with all due respect-- TGF's version)
Just tried data2sd from A2SD. At first it seemed to delete my system apps (contacts, mms, calendar...). After a second reboot most of them were there again.
But the performance was still bad.

Is it good to Use Swap?

How good or bad is it to Use a swap partition, pros & con's ?
mevricksam said:
How good or bad is it to Use a swap partition, pros & con's ?
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I guess its okay to use swap. Swap increases your ram and so you can preform better multitasks.
I think the con is that the phone gets slow if your SD card is not good. But i am really not sure on this one
mevricksam said:
How good or bad is it to Use a swap partition, pros & con's ?
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SWAP expands your RAM, so when you have it, you can open more apps than than you could without it.
If You're not trying to run many RAM-eating apps at the same time, you're only wasting your SD space.
I close every app i don't need, so SWAP i useless for me. Also i'm using Dorimanx ROM, which when SWAP is enabled has no built in task manager. If it wasnt like that, i would probably have it, just in case.
About slowing phone down: SWAP will never work as fast as RAM, since it has slower access time than native RAM. It's just to keep everything going even if you ran out of RAM, maybe a little slower, but still.

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