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X1 low performace after flashing new official ROM upgrade

Hello
I've flashe new ROM from SE (Vodafone UK image APP_SW_X1i_VFE_UK_CDF1215-0285_KOV_R2AA007).
I ran SKTools benchmark before and had results as below (without tweaks):
Integer;327.3780;Moves/25 usec
Floating point;7.399;MWIPS
RAM access;1471;Speed index
Draw bitmaps;788;Speed index
Main storage (write);10326.05;KB/sec
Main storage (read);16786.89;KB/sec
Storage Card (write); 652.30;KB/sec
Storage Card (read);2084.12;KB/sec
Now the test results after upgrading:
Integer;327.5500;Moves/25 usec
Floating point;7.499;MWIPS
RAM access;1516;Speed index
Draw bitmaps;776;Speed index
Main storage (write);2133.33;KB/sec
Main storage (read);7102.89;KB/sec
Storage Card (write); 983.04;KB/sec
Storage Card (read);6212.34;KB/sec
As You see, performance of mainstorage is poor.
Please write your experiences.

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me the same, look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=459328&page=32
but subjective the device seems faster

hmm interesting, however from what i've seen around the forums, I believe SKtools benchmarks don't really provide very accurate results . . .

Other strange thing is that it's almost impossible to improwe performance using those well known tweaks (filesystem cache, glyph buffering ...)

mobilemodman said:
hmm interesting, however from what i've seen around the forums, I believe SKtools benchmarks don't really provide very accurate results . . .
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Well I used to repeat SKTools benchmark few times and use statistic theorem
So that results are stable. In fact running benchmark for the first time usually gives wrong results (differing from average).

@ macko - yep that is true aswell, however running the benchmark is so time consuming, I dont think anyone would actually bother getting all those statistics

mobilemodman said:
@ macko - yep that is true aswell, however running the benchmark is so time consuming, I dont think anyone would actually bother getting all those statistics
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My loved wife says the same

have you tried spb benchmark?

First of all, despite of the memory benchmarks, the results are quite the same. So what basically changed is the speed of Flash-Rom access, where the internal memory got slower and the external (memory card) appearently faster.
Did you have installed the SD card tweak on the previous and/or new ROM. It was said to be the only tweak really significantly improve the speed at all.
I also think that the memory card speed subjectively is quite low with the old ROM. The question now is: What's more important, high internal memory speed or high memory card speed. I'd go for the first since most applications are stored in the internal memory but that depends.
Does it also occur with other types of the new ROM, I mean from other manufacturers or without branding. I read that they differ slightly, so that could have an influence too.

fards said:
have you tried spb benchmark?
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I would like to but there was no sense if I didn't previously tested with it. Can anybody post results obtained using spb benchmark? (before - after)

Dandie said:
First of all, despite of the memory benchmarks, the results are quite the same. So what basically changed is the speed of Flash-Rom access, where the internal memory got slower and the external (memory card) appearently faster.
Did you have installed the SD card tweak on the previous and/or new ROM. It was said to be the only tweak really significantly improve the speed at all.
I also think that the memory card speed subjectively is quite low with the old ROM. The question now is: What's more important, high internal memory speed or high memory card speed. I'd go for the first since most applications are stored in the internal memory but that depends.
Does it also occur with other types of the new ROM, I mean from other manufacturers or without branding. I read that they differ slightly, so that could have an influence too.
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Hi Dandie,
the tweak was installed on both roms branded old/unbranded new,
on the branded rom the sd read and write was very faster after installing the sdcardtool
but
with the new rom the benchmark results are slower and much more with the tweak

i'm assuming updating the rom wipes the phone clean back to factory settings? i'd hate to have to reinstall everything?!

@ stats101: Right!

rookie333 said:
Hi Dandie,
the tweak was installed on both roms branded old/unbranded new,
on the branded rom the sd read and write was very faster after installing the sdcardtool
but
with the new rom the benchmark results are slower and much more with the tweak
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Ahm. what??? What I would like to see are benchmarks without the tweak, from both, old and new ROM. Did anyone try that?

Anyone with R2A can use SPB Benchmark please?
It's more accurated for a real use.
Then I post my result of R1A hardresetted.
Thx.

Dandie said:
Ahm. what??? What I would like to see are benchmarks without the tweak, from both, old and new ROM. Did anyone try that?
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hi dandie,
the benchmark from old rom i remember, was a little bit lower than the new rom without tweak.
anyway, i don't thrust the benchmark and the tweaks, because the system feels a bit faster, with or without tweak, there's no different.

Benchmarks ? Here we go !
Darth Sith said:
Anyone with R2A can use SPB Benchmark please?
It's more accurated for a real use.
Then I post my result of R1A hardresetted.
Thx.
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Have a look here :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3242912#post3242912

In my POV mine runs pretty faster and stable
Curiously enough, benchmarks point towards the other direction
I ain't going back: I prefer "real feel" over cold benchmarks

gtrab said:
In my POV mine runs pretty faster and stable
Curiously enough, benchmarks point towards the other direction
I ain't going back: I prefer "real feel" over cold benchmarks
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Me neither !
My feelings are the same as yours ... !

I upgraded to R2A a few days ago on my x1a, and I couldn't really notice any significant difference in speed between the two firmwares just from day to day use. However, when I loaded up the HTC youtube app, I found the new firmware to clearly have quite a lot of difficulty playing back clips at high quality with dropped frames, desynced audio, etc, whereas the same youtube clips would play flawlessly on my R1A Xperia. Also, I feel like video playback is more choppy in the Media panel, although Coreplayer playback is still the same as before. I have reflashed my x1a twice with the R2A firmware, and both times video playback performance suffered. Now I'm back to R1A and video is working fine. Does anyone else have this problem?

Performance is horrible

I recently setup apps2sd on my g1 with 1.5. I also use swapper and since I setup apps2sd, performance has been horrendous with or without swap on. Has anyone else experienced this? Is there a fix? Is my card just too slow? I don't know what class it is. Thanks for the advice

if your card doesn't have a 6 on it....its too slow.
did you buy a new card other than the one the G1 came with?

My apps are a little slower to startup after apps2sd but I figure it's worth it to have 100 X's more capacity.

It's not the stock card and I'm assuming it's not a class 6. However, I went back to using stock home instead of openhome and performance increased dramatically. Apparently openhome uses too much memory and causes other apps to swap to the same card it pulls apps from.

AbsoluteDesignz said:
if your card doesn't have a 6 on it....its too slow.
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I'm tired of repeating that SD classes are only a rating for minimum sustained write speed. Maximum speeds are usually significantly higher, and vary from card to card based on the size of the file written.

Right, but if you make one that qualifies as a class 6, you wouldn't write a 2 on it unless you're a moron and want to undervalue it.

bmk789 said:
I recently setup apps2sd on my g1 with 1.5. I also use swapper and since I setup apps2sd, performance has been horrendous with or without swap on. Has anyone else experienced this? Is there a fix? Is my card just too slow? I don't know what class it is. Thanks for the advice
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Did you use the JF1.5 Lucid modded one? try not moving the data/cache to sd. That was the problem i was having. When i moved it over, it was verrrry sluggish.

bmk789 said:
It's not the stock card and I'm assuming it's not a class 6. However, I went back to using stock home instead of openhome and performance increased dramatically. Apparently openhome uses too much memory and causes other apps to swap to the same card it pulls apps from.
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Try DXtop instead of openhome.

yes, im using JF but i dont think I copied over any apps or cache. performance is slightly better since I upgraded and wiped but still doesn't feel like what it should be. maybe I will buy a new card

bmk789 said:
yes, im using JF but i dont think I copied over any apps or cache. performance is slightly better since I upgraded and wiped but still doesn't feel like what it should be. maybe I will buy a new card
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The new Dude build is pretty fast. Give it a try.

Desire performance hack

http://www.xda-developers.com/android/new-hack-for-desire-and-nexus-one-data2ext/
Would this work on our phone? It greatly increases performance, and someone is porting it to the nexus one.
heres a link to the script : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=859419

homewmt said:
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/new-hack-for-desire-and-nexus-one-data2ext/
Would this work on our phone? It greatly increases performance, and someone is porting it to the nexus one.
heres a link to the script : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=859419
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I only took a quick look but it seems as they are just using an ext partition on sd card in place of the data partition. That is what we did with Dual Rom. We used system and data partitions of the phone, one for each rom. Then both roms used and ext partition of sd for the data partitions. We did see benchmarks about 25% higher with that method. I hit as high as 617 quad score with a Froyshedyo. Average was around 590-600. But again these are benchmark scores so take them for what they are worth. I ran the rom for an extended period of time and also have gone back and forth and I can't say that I really see a 25% increase in performance that the benchmarks showed.
Then again maybe i read the links wrong and this is completely different lol.

I think this is just creating a buffer for the I/O using a SD partition. It was done a while ago I think on a galaxy phone I believe... I don't know. I mentioned it a long time ago but I think the consensus was that it wouldn't do much for us.

If anyway could give a straight answer on this it would be fantastic. (not being sarcastic towards the other replies. those are greatly appreciated as well)
I'm pretty curious about this though. Does anyone know if this would actually cause a significant increase in noticeable performance for us? And if so would this be possible?

From what I read about it last night it basically only improves the Quadrant scores, and doesn't do anything really noticeable for performance.
Don't take my word for it though, I could be wrong, thats just what I found from the small bit of research I did.

ToastPwnz said:
From what I read about it last night it basically only improves the Quadrant scores, and doesn't do anything really noticeable for performance.
Don't take my word for it though, I could be wrong, thats just what I found from the small bit of research I did.
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Yeah that's pretty much all I can really find too. That it increases quadrant scores. Particularly the I/O score. But i don't have enough knowledge on this stuff to know what exactly that would do to the phone's performance overall.

I recall someone saying that all it really did was "give Quadrant what it wanted", so basically does nothing more then increase your scores.
Sounds pretty useless to me. >.>

I've had this on my Moment for awhile, Samdroid developed this for the Galaxy spica, which is the GSM version of the Moment. SDX ported it to the Moment, and while yes it does give better quadrant scores, it does increase performance. It did help out a lot even more when Samsung and Sprint just abandoned the phone completely. For phones with older and slower hardware, you'll notice a difference. But with phones with Snapdragon or faster, you won't notice it too much.

ultimate phone guide... ie How to setup your phone to run the fastest please.

i'm just curious if there is a way or a guide on how to setup your phone to be the most efficient and fastest that it can offer?
what i'm really asking is there a tweakers guide to making the WILDFIRE run as smoothly as possible..
Also i'm wondering if there is a specific way to setup your sd card so that your phone could utilize some of the space on the card so that it could use it as ram at all so that the phone may respond a little faster.

Yes there are several ways...one of them is to change your wildfire for desire..
I am just fooling around...
I think you should look for cyogen rom or some ono that is faster that stock and overclock your processor and I thing thats the only way to improve performance significantly,all other ways are not much or not at all worth your atencion...and thats just my apinion.

There's very little you can do really, as stated above, and this is probably why there's no guide.
* Install an AOSP Based Custom ROM (Openfire or CM)
* OC your CPU
* Have as less background apps running as possible.
Not much else you can do.
As for using the SD Card as RAM, I am pretty sure its not possible. Besides, logically, the SD Card is way slower than Flash RAM, so, using it as a RAM device will actually cause the phone to slow down and lag.

thanks guys... been a big help.
Also one last thing..
i hear that there are different classes of sd card.. What card should i be looking at to upgrade to as i have a standard 2GB SD and wanted to know a little more about it ... any ideas please would be great

A Class 4 card should suffice. Anything above that doesn't give majorly noticeable results on the Wildfire.

Lg d722 ram expansion? [howto]

Greetings fellow persons
I have a LG D722 and I wish to breathe some new life into this phone
I have heard that you can expand ram with the use of an sd card
Here are my questions
Does my phone support such a function?
IF root is needed, will it still work after i disable root?
Do i just get a 10 speed XXGB sd card?
What would be the best sd card to choose in terms of speed (that the phone supports)
What (free) app should i use?
If you need any additional info, let me know
Thanks

Quantics said:
Greetings fellow persons
I have a LG D722 and I wish to breathe some new life into this phone
I have heard that you can expand ram with the use of an sd card
Here are my questions
Does my phone support such a function?
IF root is needed, will it still work after i disable root?
Do i just get a 10 speed XXGB sd card?
What would be the best sd card to choose in terms of speed (that the phone supports)
What (free) app should i use?
If you need any additional info, let me know
Thanks
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This is not possible. Even if it was possible, it would be way too slow because ram is way faster than an sd-card.
EDIT: You can use a SWAP file, but you can't use it as "Real" ram

RapHaeL_4_4_4_ said:
This is not possible. Even if it was possible, it would be way too slow because ram is way faster than an sd-card.
EDIT: You can use a SWAP file, but you can't use it as "Real" ram
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Thanks for the swift reply Raphael
A pity that it is not possible, the phone has a rather low amount of ram for today's standards
I see that you have also owned a G3 albeit another version.
Did you make any changes to improve the phone performance?

Quantics said:
Thanks for the swift reply Raphael
A pity that it is not possible, the phone has a rather low amount of ram for today's standards
I see that you have also owned a G3 albeit another version.
Did you make any changes to improve the phone performance?
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I had the "real" g3 with the snapdragon 801 and 3gb of ram so I didn't had to do anything because it was a great phone for the price.
But, before that I had a really bad phone with only 512 mb of ram and I tried everything to make it go faster (overclock (witch make the phone really hot), "ram booster" kind of app (they don't make any noticeable difference), etc...) but I realised that we just can't do that. So, unfortunately, we have to live with it until we change phone.
That being said, you can always disable animation to help the device go faster but that's pretty much it.

Yep done that it helped a bit
I am using "root booster" it makes my device react quicker then normal, i noticed the difference right of the bat
And got rid of some of the bloatware, am currently researching which other ones i can safely remove