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Recently got Droid X Overclock and have been playing with it. I've seen the CPU Benchmark and Quadrant threads, got some decent scores but seems to be most stabile @ 1300 Undervolting.
What exactly are the benefits, what's the difference between the voltages? Currently undervolting because my impression is it'll give me longer battery life, but read some threads saying it is somewhat a myth? Can anyone that truly understands this comment?
Im going to make this as simple as possible. I can only tell that it makes a difference in benchmarking.
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ksizzle9 said:
Im going to make this as simple as possible. I can only tell that it makes a difference in benchmarking.
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Same here... lol
Neither of you can tell a difference with battery life?
I've been wanting to overclock/undervolt, but I was curious as well. Do I have to overclock each time I flash or upgrade a ROM? I'm currently on Liberty 1.0, but once they come out with an update would I need to overclock once again?
Thanks in advance.
I am on Apex 1.3 and have noticed increased battery life but not sure if its due to the ROM or undervolting.. will most likely check out Fission or Liberty tomorrow.
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I OC/UV to 1.3 ULV settings in liberty lastnight. My phone has been on for 10 hours, display on with heavy use for about 45 mins, still at 90%. So far, that is a bit better then any other OC setting I used, and it's very stable. I noticed with other settings, I had weird reboots, so I think a lot of it depends on what works for your phone the best. I would test them out and see the results.
Is there one or as simple trial and error kind of thing?
Thanks
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SillyRice said:
Is there one or as simple trial and error kind of thing?
Thanks
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Just trial and error. I would start at 1.2ghz on stepping 5 and increase by 50mhz being sure to thoroughly test each clock rate.
Do NOT use the set on boot option until you are sure it is stable.
dalingrin said:
Just trial and error. I would start at 1.2ghz on stepping 5 and increase by 50mhz being sure to thoroughly test each clock rate.
Do NOT use the set on boot option until you are sure it is stable.
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I ended up testing/benchmarking in 25mhz increments. I know it was a bit more time consuming, but I found that my NC could handle 1275 while using multimedia intensive apps, but a friend could get his up to 1325 running benchmarks and not rebooting.
I think we got in one or two runs at 1350, but it definitely wasn't stable. Broke 4200 in quadrant, for whatever that's worth.
I have it set at 1300 and performance and get 2582 how do you get 4200?
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meber said:
I have it set at 1300 and performance and get 2582 how do you get 4200?
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This was a fresh install with no other background tasks running. All we did was get the CM7 ROM loaded, OC Kernel and gapps.
I'll get some screenshots of his quad scores when he gets back from helping a buddy move. I think we took screenshots of everything 1250+. I might try getting a full reload working and see if I can break that barrier.
I'm running 1325 and the best score I can get is high 3100s.
Can you guys tell me what settings you have under performance menu?
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I got similar scores to them and I used the default settings In performance... I think its a matrer of what you have installed and your device. Also don't worry about quadrant scores they are not that important. If your nook runs smooth what does it matter?
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Each machine will have to be trial and error. Different device..even same hardware are really all different to one degree or another....example...I have 2 nooks..both running the same version of cm..and kernel...my second one never gets past 3200 on quadrant...go figure...same exact software running on both.
I did this test with benchmarks back to back on higher cpu frequencies, and i ended up with 1325 being the highest stable i could go. Very low 3000's for benchmarks in quadrent which dont mean anything of course, but there ya go. Runs like a champ.
Sorry for the ignorant reply...but what will overclocking actually do? I have a NC with a dual boot CM7 SDcard. Didn't do it, bought it from Jonathan on Ebay, works great!
I started this thread because i want to be able to use Sparksco kernel v14 but it freezes when its set to 1.0GHZ I been running v10 as my daily kernel and its bottomline on my top list of kernels. Any help will be much appreciated, im on the latest nightly CM255, i had to revert back to v10 because i need speed to check emails and surf the internet...If theres another update for the V14 in the future i hope that can be a fix or its probably my setup that prevents me from reaching any higher speeds, overall Sparksco you the man!!! By the way ICS devs yall get mad props peace...
I use sparks v14 kernel on cm nightly 255 clocked right under 1ghz using smartass governer no problem. I did a full wipe of everything, and formatted system before install of everything of course. Edit: I clocked it to 2ghz and no freezes here. Did you do a full wipe before the install of the ROM/kernel?
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Hey sparksco, luv your kernels, can we get smartass2 included?
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Wrong forum buddy. This is a development section.
This belongs in Q&A
Just for future reference.
notsointeresting said:
Wrong forum buddy. This is a development section.
This belongs in Q&A
Just for future reference.
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I'm notsointeresting in hearing what u got to say but I get the point XDA supervisor...
peanjr said:
I use sparks v14 kernel on cm nightly 255 clocked right under 1ghz using smartass governer no problem. I did a full wipe of everything, and formatted system before install of everything of course. Edit: I clocked it to 2ghz and no freezes here. Did you do a full wipe before the install of the ROM/kernel?
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I'm going to have to give that a shot homie...
Kernel v14 is more geared for battery saving. I haven't updated the voltages yet because I'm not compiling gingerbread anymore, rather been working on getting a stable ICS rom build before I do more work on it. As soon as we get ICS gingerbread will be a thing of the past. Kernel v14 works good for some and v10 for others. I like v14 because of the battery I've been able to get on 122mhz min and 998mhz max. But if you up the min to the next highest setting (230mhz) you shouldn't get any lockups. Or even try 307mhz.
Edit: looks like 307mhz min is the only clock speed that allows me to overclock to 2ghz and not have any lockups. I'm also on cm nightly 255 pzguzman, and I always keep it on smartass governor.
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Yeah, forgot to mention as sparks said, at 2ghz the min is at 307mhz.
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sparksco said:
Kernel v14 is more geared for battery saving. I haven't updated the voltages yet because I'm not compiling gingerbread anymore, rather been working on getting a stable ICS rom build before I do more work on it. As soon as we get ICS gingerbread will be a thing of the past. Kernel v14 works good for some and v10 for others. I like v14 because of the battery I've been able to get on 122mhz min and 998mhz max. But if you up the min to the next highest setting (230mhz) you shouldn't get any lockups. Or even try 307mhz.
Edit: looks like 307mhz min is the only clock speed that allows me to overclock to 2ghz and not have any lockups. I'm also on cm nightly 255 pzguzman, and I always keep it on smartass governor.
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Oh okay i see Sparksco thanks for clarifying the setup, i dont mean to steer anybody in the wrong direction especially from working on a ICS BUILD which is the most highly anticipated OS for android. But im going to flash v14 and try out the setting and will get back and let you know thanx homie...
No luck but its amazing how you guys achieve the speeds... Tried the settings but my phone cant handle the pressure lol...Im gonna stick with this kernel tho... My bad for posting this thread in the wrong section its a rookie mistake...
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Yeah, forgot to mention as sparks said, at 2ghz the min is at 307mhz.
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It worked i only needed to do a full wipe, thanx homie...
By the way Sparksco i got your setup on my rom, fully functional overclocked at the max with no feezes, thanx homie...
YOU'RE USING THE WRONG GOVERNOR MIN/MAX SETTINGS
For example:
IF I want to get 2ghz out of my phone I use the performance governor and use min/max of 2ghz.
OR:
I would use:
Gov: Smartass
Min CPU: 300mhz
Max CPU: 1.5ghz
You would freeze too if you were a CPU constantly going from 100mhz to 2000mhz all the time!
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By the way Sparksco i got your setup on my my rom, fully functional overclocked at the max with no feezes, thanx homie...
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Glad you got it working.
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Hey sparksco, luv your kernels, can we get smartass2 included?
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Smartass2 was made for the HTC Sensation which is a dual core gsm phone much like the Evo 3D (but cdma instead). I could never get it to clock passed 1.4ghz so I don't think it likes our phones much. It's a great concept but the normal old smartass still works much better for the shift.
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FWIW I am hitting 2.0Ghz with no lockups or anything. I previously had been using ScaryStable for a while and anything past 1.6Ghz would lock right up nearly immediately.
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FWIW I am hitting 2.0Ghz with no lockups or anything. I previously had been using ScaryStable for a while and anything past 1.6Ghz would lock right up nearly immediately.
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Again, it depends on the governor and the min cpu. I ran scary stable at 1.9ghz for 24 hours+ straight, no lockups.
for the heck of it I ran it @ the min of like 1something hz for the low and 2.0 max just to see how it ran, and it was solid.
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for the heck of it I ran it @ the min of like 1something hz for the low and 2.0 max just to see how it ran, and it was solid.
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I understand but say you ran scary at min 100mhz and max 1.9ghz with a gov of ondemand, that would freeze for sure on any phone.
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I understand but say you ran scary at min 100mhz and max 1.9ghz with a gov of ondemand, that would freeze for sure on any phone.
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I think what he's saying is that he ran this kernel (pershoot v14) with a low min and a high max and it ran fine.
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Is there such thing as a safe overclock speed? Will my phone blow up for running it at 1.2 on a daily basis? (I searched for this topic but couldn't find anything specific to the glacier)
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The cpu in this phone overclocks well. 1.2 definitely won't hurt it. I've known people who ran everyday at 1.5.
I have an excellent cable internet service, with wireless. As such, I don't notice a real difference when I'm on WiFi. I wouldn't want to overclock anymore than 1.2 to 1.4
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jjbadd385 said:
I have an excellent cable internet service, with wireless. As such, I don't notice a real difference when I'm on WiFi. I wouldn't want to overclock anymore than 1.2 to 1.4
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Hmmm, what does web service gotta do with overclocking the devices cpu?
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Hmmm, what does web service gotta do with overclocking the devices cpu?
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I was wondering the same thing
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I'm just referring to the overall speed and performance of the handset. I haven't noticed any better performance with my phone being overclocked...isn't that the purpose of overclocking, to increase speed & performance? If not I am misunderstanding the purpose of overclocking?
I was just saying that with browsing and overall usage on my WiFi connection its hard to notice any changes whether I'm running at 1 GHz or 1.5 GHz ....
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Overclocking doesn't speed up internet service though. It just speeds up scrolling through pages, windows, opening applications and overall performance within the applications and device.
I would get SetCPU, then you probably are fine up to 1.4 ghz. I really can't recommend pushing it higher because there isn't a noticable performance increase. I use SetCPU and i am clocked at around 122Mhz-1.3Ghz with a screen off profile of 122-768Mhz and a temperature profile of 32C> 122Mhz-1.0Ghz.
I know, a lot to take in but i get really good battery life with that stuff. If you get SetCPU, experiment.
Also, here are the take away messages.
1. USE SETCPU, ITS AWESOME
2.DON'T PUSH IT TO 2GHZ. YOU WILL FRY YOUR MOTHERBOARD
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I would get SetCPU, then you probably are fine up to 1.4 ghz. I really can't recommend pushing it higher because there isn't a noticable performance increase. I use SetCPU and i am clocked at around 122Mhz-1.3Ghz with a screen off profile of 122-768Mhz and a temperature profile of 32C> 122Mhz-1.0Ghz.
I know, a lot to take in but i get really good battery life with that stuff. If you get SetCPU, experiment.
Also, here are the take away messages.
1. USE SETCPU, ITS AWESOME
2.DON'T PUSH IT TO 2GHZ. YOU WILL FRY YOUR MOTHERBOARD
---If i have help, well you know the button to push---
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Lol I looked for the free download from xda for setcpu and found the thread but not the download. Will look harder now though!
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Lol, its a paid app, i can't encourage pirating,,,Its only 2 or so dollars though so buy it and support the devs
It's free or was on xda. The developer puts the free version on here. No pirating.
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Lol, its a paid app, i can't encourage pirating,,,Its only 2 or so dollars though so buy it and support the devs
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Dude its free to xda members from what I hear but is a paid/donate version on market. If only I had a credit card...
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I prefer nofrills cpu control. It's also free.
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I have been running at 1.2 for a year now and no problems whatsoever. Actually, what I have found has helped performance was to set the minimum CPU a little higher. It allows for a little less lag while your CPU is "spinning up." (I mean at 230, not at 500 or something)
1.2 is a very stable Overclock. You shouldn't run into any problems with that setting. Anything above 1.5 I wouldn't mess with, and you probably wouldn't see much of a real world speed increase from it anyway.
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1.2 is a very stable Overclock. You shouldn't run into any problems with that setting. Anything above 1.5 I wouldn't mess with, and you probably wouldn't see much of a real world speed increase from it anyway.
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+1
Not to mention battery life goes in the toilet at high clockspeeds
guys I am rooted on stock 4.1.2, unlocked bootloader an' all that jazz, i used to use setcpu on nexus s and the old droid milestone, does setcpu work for the razr m? any good working profiles without the reboots and stuff ?
All of the 4.2.2 roms I have tried have a settings option called Performance that lets you set the min/max CPU speeds, switch between different kinds of governors, and play around with RAM management settings.
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All of the 4.2.2 roms I have tried have a settings option called Performance that lets you set the min/max CPU speeds, switch between different kinds of governors, and play around with RAM management settings.
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i am not on 4.2.2 nor do i intend to go, all i wanna know is that if setcpu is stable for the razr m and what profile should be best for good battery life
I use row or noop for my i/o scheduler and on demand for my governor and setup works I used to use it but I like no frills better
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jafferkhan said:
guys I am rooted on stock 4.1.2, unlocked bootloader an' all that jazz, i used to use setcpu on nexus s and the old droid milestone, does setcpu work for the razr m? any good working profiles without the reboots and stuff ?
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Just downloaded it and it seems to be working fine. Clocks seem to stick. Will edit this post in a couple of hours to confirm for you
I use ROW I/O with MSM-DCVS governor.
brandon71 said:
I use row or noop for my i/o scheduler and on demand for my governor and setup works I used to use it but I like no frills better
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Man I've no idea what you said, still learning about this... could you tell me what's what ?
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Just downloaded it and it seems to be working fine. Clocks seem to stick. Will edit this post in a couple of hours to confirm for you
I use ROW I/O with MSM-DCVS governor.
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Great ill wait for your findings, along with a good profile to help me save some battery on this bad boy too
jafferkhan said:
Great ill wait for your findings, along with a good profile to gdgjp me save some battery on this bad boy too
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So far the clocks have stuck Meaning once you set a clock its stays there, doesn't reset to default. As for govs and I/O, I use msm-dvcs as my gov and row as my I/O. Msm-dvcs will shut a CPU core down when not needed
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That's nice... but shutting down a core... isn't that harmful for the phones life or something? Just asking to increase my knowledge that's all...
jafferkhan said:
That's nice... but shutting down a core... isn't that harmful for the phones life or something? Just asking to increase my knowledge that's all...
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No, I have never heard of shut a problem. Google it if you are truly worried about it.
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Looks like its ok I haven't seen anything that dictates towards it being an issue, so any stable profile you'd suggest for my 907?
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Looks like its ok I haven't seen anything that dictates towards it being an issue, so any stable profile you'd suggest for my 907?
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Unfortunately I don't dabbled in profiles as I personally find them unreliable. I just stick it at a certain clock and set my govs and I/O. If you want to know my configuration, I set my clock to 1350MHz and min to 384. The gov and I/O I've already mentioned.
Here is a link to what each governor does, and what there advantages and disadvantages are. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1663809
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Unfortunately I don't dabbled in profiles as I personally find them unreliable. I just stick it at a certain clock and set my govs and I/O. If you want to know my configuration, I set my clock to 1350MHz and min to 384. The gov and I/O I've already mentioned.
Here is a link to what each governor does, and what there advantages and disadvantages are. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1663809
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thanks bro, that's really informative, i think ill solve that out but once again, battery life with speed is what everyone's after, yes the M has plenty of oomph under the bonnet but clocking it down will save battery yeah?
the profiles you have set are stable enough? no random reboots or lags?
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thanks bro, that's really informative, i think ill solve that out but once again, battery life with speed is what everyone's after, yes the M has plenty of oomph under the bonnet but clocking it down will save battery yeah?
the profiles you have set are stable enough? no random reboots or lags?
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Yes they are stable. Although experiment with the I/O yourself if you find a better one let me know
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