Ok, this is now going to be a personal rant.
@Colossus: feel free to delete or lock the thread if it's somehow inappropriate.
@All noobs who seem to think I'm their personal support assistant or personal liaison assistant and therefore can't stop bugging me to hell and back by PM:
Enough IS enough.
You ALL have a FORUM right here in front of your nose where you can post your nonsensical questions - and there's even Google to answer your brainfarts.
If you bricked your phone - search this forum about how to flash back to Stock (yes, the answer to that has been posted now for a trillionth times) or post this question all over again as asking is obviously easier than making use of your non-existent brain.
If you hard bricked your god damn phone because you decided to disregard each and every warning - I AM NOT YOUR PERSONAL SUPPORT ASSISTANT - if you feel like you want to try the unbrick method posted by the the_laser on setool.net READ UP ON THE REQUIREMENTS and then do whatever you like; I AM NOT ON THE PAYROLL OF SETOOL.NET NOR AM I YOUR NANNY NOR DO I CARE.
Search yourself another idiot you can spam by PM about whatever fart you just made.
Thank you, this is what i have been trying to tell all, enough is anough, i recive tons of SPAM everyday just cuz they cant use the search button. I will no longer reply to people who PM me questions about the same subject someone else made a thread about and on and on, in fact, its like an infinite SPAM.
Feel free to speak your frustration on what me and b.jay say, Cuz i wont give one, enough spam is enough.
@mods feel free to tell me stuff, but we have had enough, these n00bs have already broken rules by spamming us and not using the search button, in fact thats 2 rules broken by n00bs
@n00bs we cant say this clearly enough:
ENOUGH SPAM IS ENOUGH, NO MORE PM'S JUST BECAUSE YOU CANT BE BOTHERED TO USE THAT GOD DAMN SEARCH BUTTON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
IM NOT YOUR SUPPORT ASSISTANT OR A LIVING FAQ/GUIDE!!!
WE DONT GET PAID TO HELP YOU, WE DO IT TO BE NICE, BUT YOU N00BS HAVE CROSSED THE LINE NOW
ANY MORE SPAM AND I WILL LEAVE XDA FOR GOOD (OR AT LEAST THE X8 FORUMS)
IM LITERALLY PREACHING TO MY CAT, AT LEAST HE ACTUALLY LISTENS
Thanks for reading and listening, hope this stays in your heads n00bs, In fact
@mods can you put this in the sticky section please, im sick of rubbish PM's from people!!!!!!!!!
STOP BUGGING ME GUYS
-wilbso
Niceeee
Peace
Spevky
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I feel Noobs are coming to spam this thread.
Agreed.
I'm a moderator on a forum with over 3,000 members and I knowvhow it feels but with about 10-15,000 people viewing this forum a day , I can't imaging the terror.
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I think you are right. Also I want to add that many members on forums think that it is a chat room and demand immediate answer to their question. apart from that they become really rude when you are telling them that it isn't right to behave like this on a forum. I like to help others but sometimes they are incompetent to do even the basics. This is what makes me furious sometimes. Ok we are not all experts or developers but we search first and read carefully. That's my opinion. Take care ;-)
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MARK MY WORDS GUYS
If i recive anymore spam or spam threads etc, i will leave these forums
just a warning
@wilbso, Spevky, IrishStuff09
Thanks for supporting the case.
I don't know about your experience, but it's tiresome when you get countless PMs from whomever asking about things that are either already answered (read: a simple Forum search would bring up the answer) or, won't tell a name to protect the innocent, idiotic questions about "can I unbrick my phone with setool2? if yes, how does it work? what do i need to do? could you please take my hand and be my nanny?" just because someone felt like posting something about it without knowing jack**** her-/himself.
If they don't get their so much desired answer in the thread then...
...we haven't stumbled across the post yet.
...we simply didn't feel like answering the same old question all over again.
...we may not know the answer.
...we found the question to be highly boring.
I just find the total unwillingness to try and do some research breathtaking - plus PMing when not getting the answer is what I consider rude behaviour as they seem to expect that we're their living root of endless knowledge.
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@wilbso, Spevky, IrishStuff09
Thanks for supporting the case.
I don't know about your experience, but it's tiresome when you get countless PMs from whomever asking about things that are either already answered (read: a simple Forum search would bring up the answer) or, won't tell a name to protect the innocent, idiotic questions about "can I unbrick my phone with setool2? if yes, how does it work? what do i need to do? could you please take my hand and be my nanny?" just because someone felt like posting something about it without knowing jack**** her-/himself.
If they don't get their so much desired answer in the thread then...
...we haven't stumbled across the post yet.
...we simply didn't feel like answering the same old question all over again.
...we may not know the answer.
...we found the question to be highly boring.
I just find the total unwillingness to try and do some research breathtaking - plus PMing when not getting the answer is what I consider rude behaviour as they seem to expect that we're their living root of endless knowledge.
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same here, i keep receiving countless PM's about the same question, in fact, one question that had already been ansked and answered before was posted about 12 times, what the f%&k is wrong with the search button?i feel like crying when i see a new thread that contains a question that was already posted 6 mintutes ago and was answered, you will feel little bit pis£%ed. And endless PM's from (no offence) SPAM users LOL. IM NOT YOUR DADDY N00BS!!!
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...we haven't stumbled across the post yet.
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I stumble over thousands of posts, so not check
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...we simply didn't feel like answering the same old question all over again.
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OK, thats on my checklist, Check!
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...we may not know the answer.
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not on my checklist cuz i know the answer to about everything to do with android (not linux, but im still learning bout linux )
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CHECK, cuz its the same question already asked, then check
CONCLUSION:ANNOYED
Last time I received a message with request to 2.3 ROM. I thought that I'm gonna fall from my chair. I don't blame new members, but there is one good rule - think before you post, think before you do anything in your life. Fact that you are 12 or 50 don't dismiss you from that. We are offering you our time, and I love the fact that I helped somebody but there is a border of everything. Keep this forum clean and friendly. Don't cover yourself behind anonymous status - respect people. Peace. Tomek
Aha. And one thing.
USE THANKS BUTTON INSTEAD OF +1 AND THANK YOU POSTS!
i think im going to cry
and bash my head against a brick wall
Both questions have been asked millions of times
wilbso said:
i think im going to cry
and bash my head against a brick wall
Both questions have been asked millions of times
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Sorry wilbso, but this is rather funny than upsetting. Just do what I do: laugh a good one, then press DEL button. I got 20 or more mails on my YT channel/ hour, so I know what you talking about
Ignoring is a huge power! Keep it up!
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Sorry wilbso, but this is rather funny than upsetting. Just do what I do: laugh a good one, then press DEL button. I got 20 or more mails on my YT channel/ hour, so I know what you talking about
Ignoring is a huge power! Keep it up!
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Yes, according to xda users, I'm now a joker of the forum lol
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We need to keep this thread up
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We need to keep this thread up
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You need to relax man! Seriously
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You need to relax man! Seriously
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Dude I can't relax. Try relaxing when you receive 10-15 PMs a day asking a question that's been asked before
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Or you get PMs like "Can you recommend me best ROM" while this useless topic has now been covered in the Q&A for COUNTLESS times.
EDIT: You know, instead of deleting we should collect the PMs, reg a website and publish them.
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Or you get PMs like "Can you recommend me best ROM" while this useless topic has now been covered in the Q&A for COUNTLESS times.
EDIT: You know, instead of deleting we should collect the PMs, reg a website and publish them.
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LOL yes. We should do that
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Well, I have a droppages.com mini site I could repurpose for that matter - just collect them in a text file, send them to me
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Well, I have a droppages.com mini site I could repurpose for that matter - just collect them in a text file, send them to me
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OK, I'll do it right away
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first i make that clear: i have never ask a question through a pm which have been answered millions of times and there are tons of threads about it, i always use the search button.
i understand that its painfull to have many spam pm about stupid issues but from what i have see you people asking for this. To exlain myself, i have notice that when one of those stupid questions is asked, what are you doing?,you keep in answering it, i dont know why you are complain when the half or more thanks you have collect are from that noobs, as you say, and that useless questions.(i dont say that you dont make useful post i just say that those who asking a q usualy leave thanks).when you keep telling them the bla bla its common sense to think of you as their personal assistant.
To talk about myself i usually provide links in order understand that their q has already been answered
P.s. i am not writing this to offend you i just have different opinion
@at the guy who keep telling that he is gonna leave.... leave who cares you are not a dev
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I am starting to see when a new person who has no idea of how things work asks a question and gets bashed. Iam wondering do any of the xda-developer vets want xda-developers to grow or die out? New people once they learn how things work , might later start developing new and exciting products. Can we please show them some respect. Thank you for reading!
Can you give us example what you're saying?
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Can you give us example what you're saying?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=714574
justwonder said:
Can you give us example what you're saying?
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You being serious?
zarpy said:
I am starting to see when a new person who has no idea of how things work asks a question and gets bashed. Iam wondering do any of the xda-developer vets want xda-developers to grow or die out? New people once they learn how things work , might later start developing new and exciting products. Can we please show them some respect. Thank you for reading!
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100% agree!
Well said!
zarpy said:
I am starting to see when a new person who has no idea of how things work asks a question and gets bashed. Iam wondering do any of the xda-developer vets want xda-developers to grow or die out? New people once they learn how things work , might later start developing new and exciting products. Can we please show them some respect. Thank you for reading!
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Somebody needs a nap ....
But on a serious note I guess we should just stop having rules altogether ....
If bashing people is what you call expecting people even newbs to follow the rules then I guess bashing it is ...
Not totally disagreeing with you, but partially , yes sometimes vets are harsh with newbs, but if 500 people walked up to you and asked you the same question over and over how long would it take for you to get tired of it ....
ok then i just have my rule
Well I dont want to continue because it seems the majority of vets are annoyed at new users. So now I will have this rule from now on to make things simple. Any time I see this behavoir towards newbies , I will post a link to www.ppcgeeks.com . So since newbies are a problem to the vets here, I will redirect them to different website. That should handle all the problems.
zarpy said:
I am starting to see when a new person who has no idea of how things work asks a question and gets bashed. Iam wondering do any of the xda-developer vets want xda-developers to grow or die out? New people once they learn how things work , might later start developing new and exciting products. Can we please show them some respect. Thank you for reading!
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XDA will grow no matter what but if you think that XDA is more interested in the number of users it has, you are sadly mistaken.
It's very easy to pop in here and create ANOTHER useless thread asking everyone to be nice to the newbies.
All the senior members here were all newbies once. All the chefs and developers were newbies too. They didn't get to be where they are by starting up useless HELP ME threads because they were too lazy to get off their behinds and help themselves.
I've been here since 2006 and my post count very recently crossed 500. I've hung out at XDA almost every single day since the day I officially joined and about another year before that without being a member. I've learnt A LOT over here and given everything that I've learnt, if I were to have posted a HELP ME thread everytime I wanted something, I would have probably raked in about 10k posts by now. Think about how many threads and posts we would have from heavily contributing members if they were to take the HELP ME route.
I've been around here so long and know enough people here that no one would have an issue with me opening a thread for any query that I have, yet I don't... why? because XDA is a repository. Every question that anyone can think of has already been asked and has already been discussed.
I can understand how overwhelming everything can be for a newbie, but that still doesn't excuse the HELP ME threads. SEARCH, Look around, do your due diligence and you will find what you need. Nothing comes easy. You have to work for it. Google Search makes things exceptionally easy. Use it and stop crapping this place up.
Honestly, IMO, the mods here are really nice. Too nice infact. People here get away with just about anything. If you guys think people here are tough then you haven't seen how strict things are around the internet. I swear to god, if I was a mod here, the trash can would be overflowing.
Please... stop these incessant rants.
@zarpy.. PPCGeeks is miniscule compared to XDA. Trust me, the mods and the members over there take care of their forum more aggressively than XDA. It's only a matter of time before they start booting LAZY newbies.
Yeah I agree with this, I find it funny like people were born with the knowledge and talk to people who are clueless like they were never in there shoes before. I myself just got a HD2 not to long ago never really used a phone of the sort with apps and etc. I am however tech smart with PCs and like to learn on my own as it benefits you in the long run so I've picked up the basics just by doing. But not everyone is tech smart especially with phones as a lot of it I do not have a clue what it means even though I am tech smart, but I'm learning what does what slowly and how to install different types of apps, games, and themes
If some of you veterans with these phones disagree with this, your simply a liar and should go play in a fire
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You being serious?
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Don't you want to understand what is going on, before you're saying?
Can someone explain what this has to do with "Themes and Apps" please?
Honestly...Noobs...
Stay tune, OP will redirect you to another site, your question will be answered.
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Stay tune, OP will redirect you to another site, your question will be answered.
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LOL... Oh boy that was funny. LOL
HELP ME IM NEW and opps i had caps on four icons to look goodier lyke iphone has
I can see both sides of this point... Yes the search feature is important, and relitivley easy. Most of the bashing is because people dont use it.
But have you all ever stopped to think about this lil situation?
You are looking for an app, but have no clue what it is called???
Or you are from another country, and have difficulty writing English, even though you can speak it clearly enough.
Then there are the noobs that have no clue (like my self) and come looking for help or ask a question to learn.
Many crash in flames because the people who know the answers, only shoot em down. Even after using the search feature. (yes I have seen this situation here as well)
The easy solution is to just not post a flaming bash to the question, or better yet, just dont post anything at all. Someone that does know and has compassion will answer at some point. Or the person asking will do a search or search again or at some point.
It takes more effort to post a bash than it does to point them in the rite direction and teach the noobs.
The old saying "if you have nothing nice to say, say nothing at all" REALLY fits here.
Question for all of you to ask your self... When you signed up here, did you READ ALL of the rules before you posted? I'm willing to bet a very small percentage did infact, READ ALL of the rules. So many (not all) of you really have no room to point fingers.
ALL I HAVE TO SAY IS ROFL AT THE OP!!!
OMFG you actually started a thread because someone detailed a few rules!!
And the example you posted of getting bashed....i just reported the entire thread for closure as it is a complete waste of time...much like this one!!
Thanks for the chuckle over breakfast... most hilarious!
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I can see both sides of this point... Yes the search feature is important, and relitivley easy. Most of the bashing is because people dont use it.
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Bingo!!
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But have you all ever stopped to think about this lil situation?
You are looking for an app, but have no clue what it is called???
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Regardless you wouldnt start new threads asking "Whats that app called....."
or another find eg is the one here "Please help me install icons" i mean WTF, if the guy has icons, he got them from a thread right? EXACTLY, so y not post the question there? common sense no?
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Or you are from another country, and have difficulty writing English, even though you can speak it clearly enough.
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Im sorry to sound like a jerk, but who the hell cares about this....
first forum rule is "USE ENGLISH"
therefore who gives a crap, if you cant speak the language use one of the million free translators and post in English, followed by your native language.
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Then there are the noobs that have no clue (like my self) and come looking for help or ask a question to learn.
Many crash in flames because the people who know the answers, only shoot em down. Even after using the search feature. (yes I have seen this situation here as well)
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Ok the reason you would get bashed is if your asking easily findable questions.
Someone ask a dumb question i think they should get bashed, before i answer ANY questions i google search for an answer, if i find one on the first page, the the person asking the question will get no answer and flamed/bashed.
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The easy solution is to just not post a flaming bash to the question, or better yet, just dont post anything at all.
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How about people dont post stupid questions? do you ever think that with the size of this site, the vet users dont get p*ssed off with noobs asking the same things over and over again?
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Someone that does know and has compassion will answer at some point. Or the person asking will do a search or search again or at some point.
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these peope with compasion, while good for you, they are actually bad, because in stead of forcing you into a position where you actually have to search after being bashed and told that it is a stupid/easy/useless question they just give the answers.
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It takes more effort to post a bash than it does to point them in the rite direction and teach the noobs.
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WHAT COMPLETE AND UTTER GARBAGE!!!!
WTF man, seriously you think we should spend our time teaching noobs?8 years ago i used to get smashed to pieces but the likes of Olipro, and if you think people bash now you should have seen him when he was about...wow...i think you would be crying in the corner!
I run 2 HUGE threads in this forum, and i got that sick after the thousands of idiots that couldnt even be bothered to read the instructions and just posted things like "Help i cant do it"
we need more Olipro's to get rid of the IDIOT noobs who CANNOT BE ARSED SEARCHING.
TEACHING ROFL, jes, would you like me to come to your house and dress you for school too?
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The old saying "if you have nothing nice to say, say nothing at all" REALLY fits here.
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Again more rubbish, people not a days are just too LAZY to do things for themselves.
how about this "Ask a stupid question get a stupid answer"
ROFL PWNED!!!
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Question for all of you to ask your self... When you signed up here, did you READ ALL of the rules before you posted?
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Yes
and initially i asked stupid questions and i got flames and bashed, but i wasnt a ***** and i didnt cry about it ans start threads asking people to stop bashing me.
i learnt that if i was getting bashed there was a reason and i accepted that, where as now we hae the folowing:
1: Guy ask Stupid Question
2: Vets Bash
3: Guy crys
4: Guy opens more threads asking about "why am i getting bashed"
5: vets see the thread and get more P*ssed dish out mroe bashing
6: Guy crys more
7: Guy posts the eg of why he gets bashed in the new "why am i getting bashed" thread
8: Vets come along and thing WTF is this guys problem is he stupid?
here is the ULTIMATE easy solution
Search using xda search, search using google search, when posting your question past in the URL for the results of your search so people can see how you searched/what terms you used
then i Guarantee there will be no flames, and probably a few suggestion on changing search terms etc
Read and Search is the key to not posting usless threads
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XDA will grow no matter what but if you think that XDA is more interested in the number of users it has, you are sadly mistaken.
I would have probably raked in about 10k posts by now.
Every question that anyone can think of has already been asked and has already been discussed.
Honestly, IMO, the mods here are really nice. Too nice infact. People here get away with just about anything. If you guys think people here are tough then you haven't seen how strict things are around the internet.
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Couldn´t be more than agree with you leepriestenator, except for the part of the 10k posts
I am almost there
P.S Mods please move to proper discussion place
MG
I know alot of people read Mystics Genius post and thought damn cavemen exist in this day and age.
Laughing my a&+) off hahahaha you said 8 years ago you got bashed here by olipro. Your join date is 2008 its 2010 .....hahahahha where"s your math teacher he did a horrible job hahahahaha.
You this thread was opened by a newbie that wants to know why he got thrash. Your english teacher didnt teach you how to read properly hahaha.
Iam a vet here , I opened this thread because Iam tired of this attitude thats starting to take place.
You remembered when you used to get bashed and thrashed , so you think its right. How dumb are you , so if your dad beat you everyday, does that mean you beat your son? I hope not!!! You suppose to learn , but you stayed aan idiot all this time. 8 years and you learn nothing hahahahaha your the true definition of moron. Iam not mad, I think your a joke hahahahaha.
I just hope you guys don't expect your doctors, lawyers, police officers and everyone else of importance in life to answer your questions...that have been asked and asked over and over again. The answers to your heart problems are on the internet. A little Bing search will find them. You don't need to bother your doctor with clarification questions.
Please stop harrassing your lawyers. They answer the exact same questions you ask time and again. They must be so sick of answering those questions over and over again. All of the answers you can think of are clearly posted online. Do a search of Google or Bing and stop asking your important people questions.
hmmm.... i feel that as newbie
First off let me say that this is not against Sprint or Samsung (shocker). I know my way around a computer but am no way a developer. Before I ever loaded a rom I read and did my research it took me betweem 24 to 48 hours before I felt confident enough to root and flash and if I had any questions I searched the forums for a solution. Its not hard. Now here comes the complaint. I know they say there are no stupid questions but damn, I see the same question over and over again when there are easily found answers right in front of your face. Don't be lazy and read, no one one here gets paid to answer your questions that have already been answered. I'm not saying there aren't legitimate questions because there are plenty of them and that's not what is bothering me at all. I guess what I'm trying to get at is do the effing research take your time and you will figure it out, and stop asking what is the best rom it is the most worthless question on here because no one can give you the right answer. One more thing if you do run into a problem try and figure it out before running to the computer and then maybe you could actually contribute. That's all sorry for such a long post.
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Couldn't agree more. I've been a longtime member with a very low post count. Unless you're the first or second person to download a rom and notice a secific bug to report, the community is large enough that very rarely do you need to post as someone else already has.
Not to mention its a self perpetuating problem. If less people were posting the same thing 10 times, there would only be 1/10th the amount of posts to read through to find your answer to begin with.
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A lot of people say that, and yeah, people need to do some research first or something...but for some people..they really aren't being lazy or anything, they just really dont know that thats what they are supposed to do.
Let me put it like this..I saw this on my facebook yesterday. Someone I know was asking how somebody got their phone to look they way it did (the guy took a screenshot of his Vibrant with a Gingerbread theme). The guy told him to either ask me or to come to xda. Now, the guy who asked had a Hero and doesnt know what rooting is...he probably doesnt even know how a forum (or really, how this forum) works. So when he gets here, the first thing he'll do is register and make a thread asking that question. Since he'd be a new user, he wouldn't know how many times the question has been asked, hell, he wouldnt even really know where to look. It'd be his only question and to him, he thinks that he'll be able to get the answer and leave and its done.
Now, thats the only time I say we should tolerate such behavior. but for users that have been on here a while and have been posting and contributing, there's no excuse.
Typical rant.
You opened a new thread, clogging the front page just like those you hate.
The words you speak will never truly reach those who don't read before posting... by definition.
Waste of time and space, get over yourself.
Why does this bother people so much. Ignore the threads/questions if you have an issue with them. Some people aren't aware of the resources. Being a prick about it doesn't help. These same rants have been done over and over and over...
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What a SHOCKER! Another typical "non-typical" rant.
But, you know, you're right. No one should be allowed to post until they've read all 3000+ posts in this forum. No one is allowed to ask other's opinions on the best ROM. No one is allowed to think differently than you.
Wanna know why the HTC side is so good? It's not because HTC releases source code (You should have seen the community in the early days before anyone released code). It's because the users are helpful. They contribute. They don't rant.
You, and users like you, are the reason the community is falling apart. Get in there and answer some questions. Contribute. Post to the useful threads so they stay close to the top. Add to the Wiki. Don't sit around and complain. These forums are for everyone, not just you.
You have only 12 posts, and the only thing you can contribute is "restart your phone" or "use a different USB cable?"
Here's my plea for the mods to lock this thread before we spiral out of control. What do you mean, it's too late?
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If less people were posting the same thing 10 times, there would only be 1/10th the amount of posts to read through to find your answer to begin with.
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Or, you could post a like to the wiki, pointing the noobs in the right direction. Answer the question and the thread falls to the bottom, and useful stuff with high post counts rise to the top.
Here's an example:
"Hey man, totally get where you're coming from. Rooting seems tricky, but it's not. Here's the guides in the wiki. It's got most of your questions answered. The search is useful if you can't find it there. Glad to have you on XDA.
But I guess it's much more useful to post inane responses on useless threads. Crap floats.
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A lot of people say that, and yeah, people need to do some research first or something...but for some people..they really aren't being lazy or anything, they just really dont know that thats what they are supposed to do.
Let me put it like this..I saw this on my facebook yesterday. Someone I know was asking how somebody got their phone to look they way it did (the guy took a screenshot of his Vibrant with a Gingerbread theme). The guy told him to either ask me or to come to xda. Now, the guy who asked had a Hero and doesnt know what rooting is...he probably doesnt even know how a forum (or really, how this forum) works. So when he gets here, the first thing he'll do is register and make a thread asking that question. Since he'd be a new user, he wouldn't know how many times the question has been asked, hell, he wouldnt even really know where to look. It'd be his only question and to him, he thinks that he'll be able to get the answer and leave and its done.
Now, thats the only time I say we should tolerate such behavior. but for users that have been on here a while and have been posting and contributing, there's no excuse.
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I don't buy that at all. If you've been on the internet more than 10 minutes, searching should always be your first instinct.
flat out, most people just dont even know what to search for, keywords will get you the right information, but also knowing the key words is what is troubling the new people.
I'm also one of those old members with years of lurking experience, because i know to search. But, at the same time, i don't tell people to do it. He'll i barley give advice... Mainly because i just come here, give rep, and get what info I need and then leave.
Let the forums grow i say... the more questions are asked, the easier they can be answered later, because of the keywords aspect. If someone doesnt know the keywords, they will ask a question with wrong ones, and then get corrected. and later down the line, someone searching with the same wrong keywords can find the answer... At least i hope it works out like that, i would like to think it does to some degree...
Anyways... my 2c
The only problem I have with searching is this: my laptop crashed a while back so I haver to search with the phone and xda app. The xda app search sucks. It brings up irrelevant posts. So since i can't use the search feature, unless I go to the site through the web browser, I just read the wiki and search post by post lol. I am for the side that says, if you don't like the post don't read it. Be helpful, not insane. Some attitudes on here are equivalent to some one coming up to you on a street, new to the town, and asking where mcdonalds is, and some of your responses would be: Look up in the sky for the big f?%#ing golden arches before I shot you in the head with my glock. That is a little over board. I say search, but if the didn't don't get mad.
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I don't buy that at all. If you've been on the internet more than 10 minutes, searching should always be your first instinct.
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Man, more people are familiar with school than the internet...and in school you usually ask the teachers questions before you whip out your book to find the answer. Most people also try to act like themselves online like they do in real life...and since in a real life situation there more likely to ask a question than search for the answer...so first instinct would probably be asking that question, that is, if you arent used to forums (specifically this one).
Very serious business.
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flat out, most people just dont even know what to search for, keywords will get you the right information, but also knowing the key words is what is troubling the new people.
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This.
When you see question, give an answer. At least point them to the wiki so they can learn the things to search for.
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I have more of a problem with the **** stains that walk in and flame you than with noobies posting the same questions again and again. In fact im pretty sure there are more posts accumulated bashing noobs than there are noob question posts. Swing that pendelum the other way. Your the problem. Stfu and contribute or don't enter the post. Better yet log out. Usually the ones that ***** are the ones that spend way too much time on here. Only ones that get to complain are devs cuz we owe it to them
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I have more of a problem with the **** stains that walk in and flame you than with noobies posting the same questions again and again. In fact im pretty sure there are more posts accumulated bashing noobs than there are noob question posts. Swing that pendelum the other way. Your the problem. Stfu and contribute or don't enter the post. Better yet log out. Usually the ones that ***** are the ones that spend way too much time on here. Only ones that get to complain are devs cuz we owe it to them
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This is just about the most typical rant you can find on this board.. 1000 miles away from non typical
Elite11b said:
First off let me say that this is not against Sprint or Samsung (shocker). I know my way around a computer but am no way a developer. Before I ever loaded a rom I read and did my research it took me betweem 24 to 48 hours before I felt confident enough to root and flash and if I had any questions I searched the forums for a solution. Its not hard. Now here comes the complaint. I know they say there are no stupid questions but damn, I see the same question over and over again when there are easily found answers right in front of your face. Don't be lazy and read, no one one here gets paid to answer your questions that have already been answered. I'm not saying there aren't legitimate questions because there are plenty of them and that's not what is bothering me at all. I guess what I'm trying to get at is do the effing research take your time and you will figure it out, and stop asking what is the best rom it is the most worthless question on here because no one can give you the right answer. One more thing if you do run into a problem try and figure it out before running to the computer and then maybe you could actually contribute. That's all sorry for such a long post.
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Can a brother get a carriage return?
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Failing to search occurs in ANY forum out there. The difference with the Epic scene is we have more self-proclaimed moderators than any board I am a member of. There are simply too many people trigger happy to call out a “noob” who may or may not know what it is that they are looking for.
It’s a shame that we are so quick to assume that someone is lazy.
I am here several times a day. More often than not, you will see folks spending more time correcting other’s forum posting etiquette than actually helping or contributing. In the other forums I frequent (mostly cars), the members actually help one another and asking questions, regardless of them previously posted, is no problem at all.
Go figure, the forums where mistakes cost A LOT more money in damages is stress-free compared to one that can almost always be fixed with a good old odin.
I definitly feel like an ass for posting this in the first place. I guess I should have been more specific when I posted. I apologize to anyone I offended. I have no problem helping anyone that needs help it just aggravates me when people ask a question one a thread that was answered on the previous page. But whatever I honestly don't give two squirts what people think about me.
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I definitly feel like an ass for posting this in the first place. I guess I should have been more specific when I posted. I apologize to anyone I offended. I have no problem helping anyone that needs help it just aggravates me when people ask a question one a thread that was answered on the previous page. But whatever I honestly don't give two squirts what people think about me.
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I think you were saying what you felt and there is no harm in that. You were not out of line in the way you said it. It was simply something you felt like expressing.
I don’t believe your last sentence though. It contradicts your first sentence.
No it's true I just regret not being more specific about what I was saying. Anyway life is full of contradictions
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This is what Ive noticed, especially when there are some new update for modules and ROM's;
1. A massive repeated posting regarding new updates.
Its not that we dont want to help you guy's who has difficulties installing ROMs/Module to your phone, but please before posting new topic make sure you consult SEARCH button first, then if you dont find any answer thru searching then its the time to consult. I dont know if we are just lazy to search or what. This is all for us to have a well organized Section and for us to find topic easily. Isnt great to have a single thread so that newbie will not have to search back and post a new topic with already answered one? As you can see Forum for X8 and other are already Categorized, so please post in the right section. Some user made an effort already to organize the topics by making a FAQ with it, so i suggest we should use it for general concern about specific topic. Maybe we can control this massive posting by just dont answering there query if we knew that there question already been answered. Hmm dont think that's rude but i think it will help. Coz if we answer it, they will keep on doing that all over again if they encounter another problem. I also admit that I did this sometime thats why if you could notice i use "we". And i want to change it.
2. Flamming
also known as bashing, is hostile and insulting interaction between Internet users. It is clearly noticeable, that we argue in certain things, but please not to the point that we are already fighting/degrading and hurting someone's feeling so please RESPECT each other, If your good/great then be it, but we have to welcome a newbie gracefully, lets make them feels that they were home and accepted. Im sure we once get here clueless about things or if not, not so knowledgeable enough, we are not in a competition here and we don't question your greatness and knowledge, were proud of it. This is a training ground not a battle ground. Were here to have a harmonious relationship with others, besides we are all FAMILY here. I know for some reason that we just dont stay here to get what we want to our phone, but simply to help each other.
3. Patience
I know it is good to have all what we want, but please stop forcing/requesting repeatedly to our developer, we didnt hired them to work for us, besides they are sharing there work for FREE, and even they ask for some donations, well they have the right to do so, as they are working for us. Imagine if all our developer will be get hired by SE and charge us for all their great work. They will have a better career there, and what do you think will happened to us who are just benefited by there free work? Think of that. So please let's be patient, extend your patience give all there time to find the solution. BTW reporting bugs is different from asking/requesting. It just make our dev's annoyed and might lose interest to work for our many cries. They want to give us a stable home for our phone and they knew about that, so we dont have to tell them what to do, well in fact they know more than you do.
These are just some of my observation. Dont get me wrong here coz its for the common good. I may not give you any ROM,s or Module but i can give you Life Lesson and Love. And if you will hate me for this, well sorry but i will just love you and hug you until such time you realize what I am saying here.
Isn't it great to have a good relationship with everyone and i doubt that you don't feel something when you help someone! I just dont get ROM, Modules and learning here, the most important I gained friends!
Well, it takes two to cuddle and i totally agree with u on this
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Best thread ever ;*
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Oo i have some question whąt if doixanh said in his thread with.froyobread to report bugs cuz he wąnna fix them? Im just asking ;D Love you xD
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Oo i have some question whąt if doixanh said in his thread with.froyobread to report bugs cuz he wąnna fix them? Im just asking ;D Love you xD
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Well i think its normal for them to ask, coz we the user use more our phone than they do. It will took them sometime to release a ROM is they will test every single function in there work. There work is to provide us the ROM/Modules. If they asked us to look for bugs, then that's also the time for us to work, in return with there great work. Coz i know that they will stop developing if we dont tell them about the problem we encountered. Besides they also get idea's to us. Many heads are better than One. And this is also what you called helping hands. Give and Take process not Take and Take (that's a bad idea) .. wink. oh btw I love ya too.
Ok thanks now you leave myself clear about everything
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I wish mods and members read this.
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Ok thanks now you leave myself clear about everything
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Finally you get my point with oc and uv! Juhuuuu im happy now i help someone if you need more help just PM me
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Finally you get my point with oc and uv! Juhuuuu im happy now i help someone if you need more help just PM me
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Yes and im so thankful for the new learning's and most of all I appreciated your effort to explain it to me in english. I can say that your English is improving. mwuah!
deedii said:
Yes and im so thankful for the new learning's and most of all I appreciated your effort to explain it to me in english. I can say that your English is improving. mwuah!
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And everything without google translate
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Sry for spamming here deedii but it seems the mods deleted the other thread with the links i posted, i mean wtf???????????
edit: it seems that the mods are deleting the multi touch related topics without checking the content deeply so i'll pm some1 with some knowledge , again sry for spamming
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I agree with this thread and i have add one thing for all X8 users:
I daily check some forums (not only x8) and what i mostly see is people that reply to newbie posts in a rude and useless way, we all hate double posts, no search, requests, stupid posts but keep in mind that when you reply " yo, arent you able to use search ?" "use the dammit search!" , these are posts count at my eyes and rude replies.( i hate them )
If you find that someone did the same post over and over, if someone didn't use the search button or whatever, just ignore to reply and pm or report me and i will do something.
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Sry for spamming here deedii but it seems the mods deleted the other thread with the links i posted, i mean wtf???????????
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I think they will not delete it without a reason or purpose. Maybe your post was against the rules (i dont know), but im pretty sure Mod's here has its reason, and if it doesnt abuse/break rules then you can consult our moderators. Im pretty sure that they will give time to listen to your query or statement. Remember that they were chosen well and proved enough to be helpful. I think no mods here are using there power as a reason.
I firmly believes in the power of reason, not in the use of power/force as a reason.
Edited: GHoSTABUD, i see the one you posted, htc MT driver that uses synaptic right? Thats promising and pretty useful in the future i think.
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I agree with this thread and i have add one thing for all X8 users:
I daily check some forums (not only x8) and what i mostly see is people that reply to newbie posts in a rude and useless way, we all hate double posts, no search, requests, stupid posts but keep in mind that when you reply " yo, arent you able to use search ?" "use the dammit search!" , these are posts count at my eyes and rude replies.( i hate them )
If you find that someone did the same post over and over, if someone didn't use the search button or whatever, just ignore to reply and pm or report me and i will do something.
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I totally agree with you, If we dont have something good to say nor help better we keep our mouth shut, coz words is extremely hurtful. We encourage newbie to learn so that one day they will contribute to us, not discourage them because of our rude manners. I always say this, make them feel at home. Coz were once a newbie too.
DON'T DO UNTO OTHERS WHAT YOU DON'T WANT OTHERS DO UNTO YOU
I deletd the that thread (and other 2) because there was another one made before and as the multitouch thread in the past, i've found useless having 8 threads for the same purpose.
Anyway i did copy your post and another one from the delòeted one and the sticky that i made early.
EDIT: and that's why today i've got a pm from an x8 user:
where are you at? lately the x8 forum has become a big mess with useless threads multiple times
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Sry for spamming here deedii but it seems the mods deleted the other thread with the links i posted, i mean wtf???????????
edit: it seems that the mods are deleting the multi touch related topics without checking the content deeply so i'll pm some1 with some knowledge , again sry for spamming
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There should really be a separate thread for each rom opened up where all the bugs noticed and reported back in the development thread will get addressed with the solution.
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I deletd the that thread (and other 2) because there was another one made before and as the multitouch thread in the past, i've found useless having 8 threads for the same purpose.
Anyway i did copy your post and another one from the delòeted one and the sticky that i made early.
EDIT: and that's why today i've got a pm from an x8 user:
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thanks for ur reply man and i'm sry for accusing without knowing carefully what i should have said
anyways i pm'd 2 dev's now n i'm w8ing for a reply so the question is if what i've found is actually a dt driver is it ok if i open a thread in the dev section or should i pm some1 else who can actually develope it and he should do what he has to do :S confused ...
anyways thanks again man
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There should really be a separate thread for each rom opened up where all the bugs noticed and reported back in the development thread will get addressed with the solution.
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Yes and this will organize everything.
That's a nice idea indeed.
You only need someone that take care of the thread while copying all reported bugs and fixes from the thread to the first page, otherwise it will be difficult to track bugs.
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There should really be a seperate thread for each rom opened up where all the bugs noticed and reported back in the development thread will get addressed with the solution.
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No worrie man, i didn't take it as an offence .....sometimes mods are seen as cops and you are not happy when you got an infraction from them
Anyway if you will find that it is a driver or something related to development, you can make a thread in dev forum:
_ give proper how to install
_ give credit where it's right
_ dont post any help questions
and you are done.
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thanks for ur reply man and i'm sry for accusing without knowing carefully what i should have said
anyways i pm'd 2 dev's now n i'm w8ing for a reply so the question is if what i've found is actually a dt driver is it ok if i open a thread in the dev section or should i pm some1 else who can actually develope it and he should do what he has to do :S confused ...
anyways thanks again man
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Off topic i know.. but i think there should be a thread like this in every phone type/model section of the Forum..
i feel so so sorry for Devs who keep on getting harassed for ETAs for their prospective ROMS/Kernels/bowel movements etc... i would just like to tell all those people who say "WAN IZ ICE KREAM TRIFLE WERKING ON MAI SAMZUNG UNIVERSE EGG SANDWITCHHHH???"...
Please make at least ONE New Years resolution..
DONT harass the Devs, they do this as a hobby and members of XDA are not their bosses. this is a surefire way of getting very good Devs leaving XDA completely and even worse get them to stop developing at all...
So please please please... for your own sake and everyone elses.. play nicely, think about what you ask.. otherwise the site WILL suffer..
And in the wise words of Jerry Springer
"Be Good to yourself, and Each other"
Ciao for now..
And you really think these noobs are actually going yo read your thread or heed your warnings?
They can't even be bothered reading the OP of a dev rom that has all the info they need.
In real life crims will be crims, idiots will be idiots just like noobs will be noobs.
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And you really think these noons are actually going yo read your thread or heed your warnings?
They can't even be bothered reading the OP of a dev rom that has all the info they need.
In real life crims will be crims, idiots will be idiots just like noobs will be noobs.
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True True... maybe i should retitle my thread to "ICS WORKINGGGGGGGGGG" that should hook 'em in.. "
it's just really frustrating to see..
nutmegy said:
True True... maybe i should retitle my thread to "ICS WORKINGGGGGGGGGG" that should hook 'em in.. "
it's just really frustrating to see..
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It is really frustrating to see but please do not forget if all followed the rules will would be living in a perfect world and unfortunately we do not. You have a good point but like the post above by sxi2000 i doubt many would read this thread..
but anyway good on you fella and keep soldiering on to get rid of the n00bs...
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It is really frustrating to see but please do not forget if all followed the rules will would be living in a perfect world and unfortunately we do not. You have a good point but like the post above by sxi2000 i doubt many would read this thread..
but anyway good on you fella and keep soldiering on to get rid of the n00bs...
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in terms of my knowledge i am relatively noobish but at least i have common sense... but anyway XDA is getting such a bad name across the Net as the noob swarm of idiots takes over...
just wanted to say my piece.. and pass on my appreciation
Happy New Year to all and hope all your Christmasses/Kwanzas/Hannukahs (unsure of other religions/countries) were groovy..
Ronm Guides instructions etc should all be boldly titled
DO NOT READ THIS >> DO NOT FOLLOW INSTRUCTIONS .
Please ask the same question that was asked half an hour ago .
Yes you can flash a Nokia rom on your SGS .
Before the noobs reply nobody has a complaint about any user that asks a relevant question or cannot quite grasp an instruction set .Its those that simply refuse to learn anything and expect members to do it all for them probably due to them still having mummy wipe their arse .
We all started from zero knowledge but most of us took the time and trouble to read and learn .
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in terms of my knowledge i am relatively noobish but at least i have common sense... but anyway XDA is getting such a bad name across the Net as the noob swarm of idiots takes over...
just wanted to say my piece.. and pass on my appreciation
Happy New Year to all and hope all your Christmasses/Kwanzas/Hannukahs (unsure of other religions/countries) were groovy..
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Happy New Year to you as well fella
JJEgan said:
Ronm Guides instructions etc should all be boldly titled
DO NOT READ THIS >> DO NOT FOLLOW INSTRUCTIONS .
Please ask the same question that was asked half an hour ago .
Yes you can flash a Nokia rom on your SGS .
Before the noobs reply nobody has a complaint about any user that asks a relevant question or cannot quite grasp an instruction set .Its those that simply refuse to learn anything and expect members to do it all for them probably due to them still having mummy wipe their arse .
We all started from zero knowledge but most of us took the time and trouble to read and learn .
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Quality!
i'm at work and that did make me chuckle..... oh the life of a Network Engineer... now if my SGS2 could run Cisco IOS... hmmmmmm
Well said Nutmegy (and others).
I'm still relatively n00bish, but I've got initiative and a desire to learn everything/anything I can about how this phone ticks. I absolutely agree that anyone who isn't prepared to "do the hard yards" should honestly stick to stock unless/until they are.
This would save a number of people (this number seems to be growing by the week) the grief of "soft bricking" their phone & not being able to use same for however many days it takes to get the advice on here to fix it.
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Well said Nutmegy (and others).
I'm still relatively n00bish, but I've got initiative and a desire to learn everything/anything I can about how this phone ticks. I absolutely agree that anyone who isn't prepared to "do the hard yards" should honestly stick to stock unless/until they are.
This would save a number of people (this number seems to be growing by the week) the grief of "soft bricking" their phone & not being able to use same for however many days it takes to get the advice on here to fix it.
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it's not so much the soft bricking.. it's requests for ETAs that seriously does my head in..
Easy to say, but hard to follow in reality idiots will be idiots ...
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Easy to say, but hard to follow in reality idiots will be idiots ...
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bala_gamer said:
Easy to say, but hard to follow in reality idiots will be idiots ...
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Bala.... you are so right... anyway enough of my rant....
i need a strong coffee... working on a Jack Daniels induced hangover is strictly not advisable...
Oh hell yes. I tend to mock & ask the mods to close the thread. After I've made sure the OP has seen/taken note of my mocking/sarcasm, of course
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it's not so much the soft bricking.. it's requests for ETAs that seriously does my head in..
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This thread is unbelievable senseless. You will nobody convince to stop spamming. Just another off topic,,look-how-good-I-am-and-how-stupid-are-other'' thread. asking such questions is business as usual, every dev should be cool enough to handle and ignore it.
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This thread is unbelievable senseless. You will nobody convince to stop spamming. Just another off topic,,look-how-good-I-am-and-how-stupid-are-other'' thread. asking such questions is business as usual, every dev should be cool enough to handle and ignore it.
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Ok fair enough.. i'm not going to rise up to it... just hungover and fed up of reading crap and watching XDA going down the toilet.. if there is a Mod somewhere please close... it was not my intention to pi$$ anyone else off... just a minor rant....
Merry XMAS and a happy new year to you!
If anyone thinks its bad now...then just wait for next year. It will get much worse.
Very simple reason - just do the maths. Last year in Australia alone android had about 20% market share. This year it rose to 48% of all smartphones sold to be the number 1 operating system. All in just one year. I suspect the same pattern is happening worldwide.
So next year it will only increase. Therefore, more users = more xda members so hold on to your seats boys and girls.
And do you know what??? There is nothing you or I can do about it. Shame!
Maybe a silly suggestion and it may be hard to implemented, but xda should have a system where new members need to have been logged in for say 100 hours or have read a certain number of threads before they are allowed to post. Maybe even pop-up messages with basic general information / warnings etc for them as well during the first month/s.
My worry is that it may eventually get so bad that the forum administrators will do something drastic that affects all users negatively.
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well if you are just talking about resolutions on here regarding smartphones well i suppose getting stable ICS is one, also i seriously cant wait to get a ASUS Transformer Prime and ill by pass on the Galaxy Nexus and Note both of which i don't believe are as good all round as the SGSII and wait for the SGSIII.
ALSO it would be good if noobs who post duplicate questions without using the search function first get an infraction, there needs to be a disclaimer of some sort when they register for the first time that they need to use the search function first and only if they cannot find the answer to their questions (which is all honesty is unlikely as pretty much everything has been covered on here) only then start a thread.
Finally - it would be good if some people didn't steal other peoples work and pass if off as their own, and remember people play nice as much as you can, all this bickering isn't productive for the forum.
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If anyone thinks its bad now...then just wait for next year. It will get much worse.
Very simple reason - just do the maths. Last year in Australia alone android had about 20% market share. This year it rose to 48% of all smartphones sold to be the number 1 operating system. All in just one year. I suspect the same pattern is happening worldwide.
So next year it will only increase. Therefore, more users = more xda members so hold on to your seats boys and girls.
And do you know what??? There is nothing you or I can do about it. Shame!
Maybe a silly suggestion and it may be hard to implemented, but xda should have a system where new members need to have been logged in for say 100 hours or have read a certain number of threads before they are allowed to post. Maybe even pop-up messages with basic general information / warnings etc for them as well during the first month/s.
My worry is that it may eventually get so bad that the forum administrators will do something drastic that affects all users negatively.
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Not silly at all my friend something needs to be done about the sheer amount of duplicate questions being asked time and time on here.
jonny68 said:
well if you are just talking about resolutions on here regarding smartphones well i suppose getting stable ICS is one, also i seriously cant wait to get a ASUS Transformer Prime and ill by pass on the Galaxy Nexus and Note both of which i don't believe are as good all round as the SGSII and wait for the SGSIII.
ALSO it would be good if noobs who post duplicate questions without using the search function first get an infraction, there needs to be a disclaimer of some sort when they register for the first time that they need to use the search function first and only if they cannot find the answer to their questions (which is all honesty is unlikely as pretty much everything has been covered on here) only then start a thread.
Finally - it would be good if some people didn't steal other peoples work and pass if off as their own, and remember people play nice as much as you can, all this bickering isn't productive for the forum.
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Not silly at all my friend something needs to be done about the sheer amount of duplicate questions being asked time and time on here.
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Wow this is actually being quite a constructive thread... USEFUL ideas instead of *****ing about it all.. but yes some kind of mechanism in place to stop dodgy post.. then at least Forum Admins can say "We told you so"... or indeed the easiest way... and i'm going to whisper this... charge people which could unfortunately be the negative effect that XDA could force on us all..
I know they have put the built in search functionality into the Topic creation field (which has saved me a few times!), but there could be a little bit more as mentioned above.
I re-iterate... we dont want to lose any more devs.. and its the stupid few that ruin it for everybody, i have referred to XDA for a few years now and have found it such a useful resource, a good place to share ideas, help each other out and for Devs/Themers to show off their wares...
LONG LIVE XDA!
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Wow this is actually being quite a constructive thread... USEFUL ideas instead of *****ing about it all.. but yes some kind of mechanism in place to stop dodgy post.. then at least Forum Admins can say "We told you so"... or indeed the easiest way... and i'm going to whisper this... charge people which could unfortunately be the negative effect that XDA could force on us all..
I know they have put the built in search functionality into the Topic creation field (which has saved me a few times!), but there could be a little bit more as mentioned above.
I re-iterate... we dont want to lose any more devs.. and its the stupid few that ruin it for everybody, i have referred to XDA for a few years now and have found it such a useful resource, a good place to share ideas, help each other out and for Devs/Themers to show off their wares...
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read my signature... use that if you want on your first post
There is a couple of threads started by the main Devs,that have been closed lately.
All b´coz ignorant and stupid ppl keep asking the same quiestions over again.Since they are superiour at devoloping roms,but have a hard time getting same questions all the time shuffeld upon them,time over time,the treads gets closed all the time to us uber users sad disapointment.If i had the power i would shoot all the wrong posters in the head,but i dont have the the power to do that.This is not a democracy,soo think before u post any stupid question that might offend the allmighty devs,or the treads might get closed.Remember,You are in the hands of the Devs,they have ALL the might to shut u down,We are ALL in the hands of the allmighty DEVS.
So ask ur self,can u live without the roms,can your life continue with an originar rom from lets say Samsung?Or are u here bcoz of ur curiosity?Are u here bcoz of the fun of trying lotz of diffrent roms?OR as me,just to try out something else?
I for sure can live with out the roms that codeworkz and he´s friends develop.Would my life be porer with out their roms?Nah dont think so,if there only were TW roms i would still be fine,but the option to choose is always better.Do i feel the need to kiss some devs ass to get googles latest,with all the bugs and annoying faults?Sure not.Im 40 years old,ive learned to hold my breath,theres no greener grass on the other side.My phone will still function as intended even without major Devs roms.
So,do i dont appriciate the work they do for free?Hell yes i do!For free?Well,some of us guys do donate,so for free isnt true.
Do i think Devs should be treated like gods?Nope,i think they should live by the same rules as all of us do,threat others with respect.!
+1. Countdown till this thread gets transformed into a thread for ICS, CM9, or how much they hate TouchWiz.
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You are making a valid point btw.
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WagTwo said:
Paragraphs?
You are making a valid point btw.
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I was going to say spaces after punctuation, but your way works.
Wagtwo and Ricky are prime examples of what this post is all about.
I to would shoot them if I could.
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Visentinel said:
Wagtwo and Ricky are prime examples of what this post is all about.
I to would shoot them if I could.
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For noob questions entire development is stopped by codeworkx... As we all are noobs is this our faults... Every body in this world are not doctors, engineers or developers. Sorry noob people this is our fault...
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Plz close the tread
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mwazeer1 said:
For noob questions entire development is stopped by codeworkx... As we all are noobs is this our faults... Every body in this world are not doctors, engineers or developers. Sorry noob people this is our fault...
Ps. Every membership now should be invite only. And yes thread should be closed as it will attract nothing but people disagreeing with the OP. But respect to him for his opinion though
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Link in my signature should be spreaded in every new members inbox when they register and also the video by xda to stop them doing what is already happening on xda. Check my sig for more info in what i mean. Ps. Every membership now should be invite only. And yes thread should be closed as it will attract nothing but people disagreeing with the OP. But respect to him for his opinion though
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+1 really fund with development on xda, but when Devs get to much
bs or noobish questions on their thread they just close it, instead of warning the person(s)
that are cluthering their thread and just in case off repeating theme selves just expell them
from xda for a period or FOR EVER!!!!!!!!!!!! this is what happens on most forums so why not here.
Imho this is still a forum about open source so why should you be invited only to get a
membership should we all be mail aswell to join?
Maybe cleaning up some (less used) sticky threads and getting more info, about using Q&A and the use off searching threads before asking, to new users would be something to consider ( maybe this can be done by first 20 posts opening a warning screen, that pops up at your screen, when you whant to post something that has to be checked within a scrollable popup screen) yes i know this needs some work by the mods but then youre probally done with noob questions and bs.
Just my thougts
DirkTeur Velserbroncx said:
+1 really fund with development on xda, but when Devs get to much
bs or noobish questions on their thread they just close it, instead of warning the person(s) that are cluthering their thread and just in case off repeating theme selves just expell them from xda for a period or FOR EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!
this is what happens on most forums so why not here.
Maybe cleaning up some (less used) sticky threads and getting more info, about using Q&A and the use off searching threads before asking, to new users would be something to consider ( maybe this can be done by first 20 posts opening a warning screen, that pops up at your screen, when you whant to post something that has to be checked within a scrollable popup screen) yes i know this needs some work by the mods but then youre probally done with noob questions and bs.
Just my thougts
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No mate. Simple solution. Invite only to become a member. And as regarding the cm9 thread well the title said it all UNSTABLE not ready for daily use. What more than that do people need for a better explanation
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You can tell people to hold their breath, cause you let one go, guess what......?
they will always tell you, you stink up the place
people are just to curious to be number 1 with their phone and firmware to read any warning what so ever about a rom thats still under heavy development
and not fully functional, we just like to wine about the problems that occur
so invite or not i think the problem stays the same
Please NO not another thread like this! Pointless...
DirkTeur Velserbroncx said:
You can tell people to hold their breath, cause you let one go, guess what......?
they will always tell you, you stink up the place
people are just to curious to be number 1 with their phone and firmware to read any warning what so ever about a rom thats still under heavy development
and not fully functional, we just like to wine about the problems that occur
so invite or not i think the problem stays the same
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You have a point. I mean we do not live in a perfect world after all. But my point is if xda was reverted to invite only and made the only way to be able to get the invite is by actually learning to contribute to the community then i think maybe that is the only way forward.
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OMG you fu***** children.
it's the remaining devs who keep this forum alive!
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Enough already with this high-school melodramatic bull****. Let the developers develop however the hell they want to develop, and shut the **** up about it.
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Enough already with this high-school melodramatic bull****. Let the developers develop however the hell they want to develop, and shut the **** up about it.
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Calm down buddy no need to get yourself angry about this.
This is the second thread started by the same user in as many days expressing the same incoherent, poorly articulated babble.
Yesterday's rant about XDA being a dictatorship didn't last long before being locked and I can only hope that this worthless drivel is shut down every bit as quickly.
This outraged sense of entitlement crap is part of the problem and most certainly not the solution. It's not Devs that are making it hard work on XDA, it's people like you.
lol i opened a thread as well the other day.. makes that 3....but invite only would be good...
i admit i know only a little bit about Android and mobile phones, however as i work in a technical environment i understand the risks and what goes into developing.
again as i mentioned in my other thread.. XDA IS suffering as a result and it's name is being dragged through the mud across the net on other blogs and Developer forums. It's embarrassing and frankly I dont blame the Devs for leaving...
I feel like this is all targeted to CM9/ICS development, so let me answer this.
Hey people, calm down. We don't feel like gods at all, I can understand why you're mad, but hey, it's community's fault !
We spend hours and hours trying to bring AOSP experience to this device (and some others), and it's hard given the number of things Samsung doesn't do using Android standards. It's taking a lot of our free time, and gives us a lot of headaches.
That's one fact.
Now, you guys begged us to get an alpha, we gave it to you. What did we get in return ? The right to answers 1000000000 times the SAME questions. We made a Wiki, an FAQ, people STILL asks for dumb questions. They can't use google, they can't search a topic, they can't read, and they beg us to get an answer to their dumb questions. It's okay the first, second, third time... But when it's ALWAYS ALL TIME TIME the SAME, it gets boring, we get mad and arrogant, because we're doing all this stuff for YOU, and you can't even use the Thanks button properly. No, you come here and complain "Why **** doesn't work !!??", and you keep asking at EACH RELEASE if the SAME thing works or not, because you can't read the ChangeLog, or Google for specific terms that are inside it (like the Vendor libraries thing).
When you'll respect us, by doing a bit of work on your side, we'll get nicer. Codeworkx said it's your fault, and he's right.