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Does anyone know if the hardware is different from the US G1 to the UK G1? I know the US model uses the 1700 and 2100 bands for 3G, while the UK model uses 2100 only. Is this due to a physically different radio chipset, or is it strictly a ROM change? Could one flash a US ROM onto a UK G1; and would it work on 3G in the US?
Thanks in advance!
BAMF said:
Does anyone know if the hardware is different from the US G1 to the UK G1? I know the US model uses the 1700 and 2100 bands for 3G, while the UK model uses 2100 only. Is this due to a physically different radio chipset, or is it strictly a ROM change? Could one flash a US ROM onto a UK G1; and would it work on 3G in the US?
Thanks in advance!
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I'd expect the 3g radio/chipset would be the same in them. If you take your UK G1 to the US I would imagine it would work on the US 3g network fine.
Dirky said:
I'd expect the 3g radio/chipset would be the same in them. If you take your UK G1 to the US I would imagine it would work on the US 3g network fine.
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There is a hardware difference, extra antenna/amp chip. The T-mobile network in the US uses both 1700 and 2100 bands to establish the 3G voice/data connection. You'll be able to get 2g for sure, but not 3g. T-mobile uses 1700 band for up and 2100 for down stream.
niftydl said:
There is a hardware difference, extra antenna/amp chip.
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Do you have a pic of the motherboard or some other evidence of this?
The T-mobile network in the US uses both 1700 and 2100 bands to establish the 3G voice/data connection. You'll be able to get 2g for sure, but not 3g. T-mobile uses 1700 band for up and 2100 for down stream.
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I think when the op said the Dream uses 1700 and 2100, he meant UMTS Bands IV and I respectively. The Dream communicates with T-Mobile USA using only Band IV, which is commonly known as UMTS 1700, even though it does use 2110-2155Mhz for the downlink. More info here.
All the USA T-Mobile APNs are installed on the UK version, are there any 1700 ones listed?
I deleted them all or I'd check myself.
I have both the US and UK versions of the G1 in hand. I have looked at the list of US APNs, but I'm not really sure what to look for. They all specify epc.tmobile.com, but beyond that the numbers don't mean anything to me. Can someone tell me what to look for?
As far as the radio chipset, I have the service manual and I'm willing to disassemble the UK G1, just not sure what to look for. I'll be glad to take pictures along the way.
Externally, I have found a few differences in what's printed under the battery-
US model: DREA100
UK model: DREA110
US P/N: 99HEW038-00
UK P/N: 99HEW042-00
Of course, the difference in numbers could lie in the firmware.
Thanks everyone for the input thus far, any other advice you can offer is also appreciated!
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I have both the US and UK versions of the G1 in hand. I have looked at the list of US APNs, but I'm not really sure what to look for. They all specify epc.tmobile.com, but beyond that the numbers don't mean anything to me. Can someone tell me what to look for?
As far as the radio chipset, I have the service manual and I'm willing to disassemble the UK G1, just not sure what to look for. I'll be glad to take pictures along the way.
Externally, I have found a few differences in what's printed under the battery-
US model: DREA100
UK model: DREA110
US P/N: 99HEW038-00
UK P/N: 99HEW042-00
Of course, the difference in numbers could lie in the firmware.
Thanks everyone for the input thus far, any other advice you can offer is also appreciated!
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Could you share the service manual if it is alright?
http://phandroid.com/2011/05/05/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-passess-fcc-with-att-bands/
Story says it all. Really looking forward to getting this for less than $700.
Perfect timing! Hopefully AT&T/Samsung will announce at their press event today.
Isn't this a week old
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intruda119 said:
Isn't this a week old
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I don't think so, no one knew what models were coming to N.A.
Edit: There was one that passed the FCC in March. It was the I9100, this is the I9100T.
Edit #2: It seems the I9000T was the Latin America version. Wonder if that will be the same this time?
Does the listing of only 850/1900 in that FCC test mean the phone won't have 2100 3G?
T-Mobile....
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Taking a quick look at the FCC test reports for the 9100 and 9100T, the only spec difference I see in the first page summary of the device is the 9100T has a lower max RF output (around 16mW) on the 802.11a versus the 9100 (around 20mW). The max RF output on 802.11n is about the same on each device (around 12mW).
Both show the same EUT types: 850/1900 GSM/GPRS/EDGE/WCDMA/HSPA
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T-Mobile....
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Was this a response to my 2100 question?
I need 2100 for international travel. If the ATT version doesn't have it then it's a no-go for me. I know TMO phones do, but they also lack 850 3G which I would like to get, plus no TMO S2 announcement so far.
i believe I9000T is for T-mobile, just a guess
as a the I9020T was for T-mobile
1) Would the FCC report be a place where NFC is mentioned?
2) Have the 900/2100 bands been removed?
3) What's WCDMA?
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1) Would the FCC report be a place where NFC is mentioned?
2) Have the 900/2100 bands been removed?
3) What's WCDMA?
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1) I would think the NFC frequency would need to be tested by the FCC as well. I didn't see a mention of it, but the report are a few hundred pages in total. The links are in my post above.
2) It looks like the FCC reports for this device only discusses the bands that were tested. I don't know if that means the radio hardware is different or those frequecies are just "disabled".
3) from at&t site: "The Universal Mobile Telecommunications System (UMTS), which uses a wideband CDMA (WCDMA) radio interface, is a third-generation wireless technology. AT&T, like most GSM operators worldwide, operates both UMTS and GSM/GPRS/EDGE networks as an integrated network. Many UMTS devices can roam between UMTS and GSM/GPRS/EDGE networks."
Hi,
I'm about to get SG-S4!!
I read through the forum, didn't find a sold answer if SHV-E300S with Exynos 5 (Octa) will work with LTE in US!
Can anyone please let us know...
Thanks
It won't, the bands aren't supported. It won't work in the EU either.
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Hi,
I'm about to get SG-S4!!
I read through the forum, didn't find a sold answer if SHV-E300S with Exynos 5 (Octa) will work with LTE in US!
Can anyone please let us know...
Thanks
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If you want to:
-Pay 200 dollars more expensive(import tax + local seller commission)
-Have a bigger size(korea version is thicker than us one) and have stupid korea restriction(sms limitation, etc...)
-Take a phone who only support Korea 4G frequency and imcompatible with all other country
You can surely go for this version. No problem!!!
mathieulh said:
It won't, the bands aren't supported. It won't work in the EU either.
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Good to know..
Madawcisrich said:
If you want to:
-Pay 200 dollars more expensive(import tax + local seller commission)
-Have a bigger size(korea version is thicker than us one) and have stupid korea restriction(sms limitation, etc...)
-Take a phone who only support Korea 4G frequency and imcompatible with all other country
You can surely go for this version. No problem!!!
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lol yeah I see no prob
I'm using a app called SKT Hidden Menu with my SHV-E300S. You can change the network channels to work in the US.
soundping said:
I'm using a app called SKT Hidden Menu with my SHV-E300S. You can change the network channels to work in the US.
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Hi, since you have the korea version, please show us more pictures about its size, what difference does he have other than the fact he get overclocked processor and compatible LTE? Some physical difference? Bigger than us one? Thicker? Some restrictions? Do you mean that with your app, you can use 4G LTE in the US and in other countries? Also where did you buy your phone? How much does it cost? Thank you.
The overclocked processor settings was dropped before it's release. It's now 4 cores at 1.6 and 4 cores at 1.2. I'm guessing because of heat issues.
Just doing a backup will make the phone heat up quick. Plus, the battery life isn't good.
I should have waited two more months before buying a S4.
I too want to have the octa core S4 with LTE to use in the US and don't want to settle for anything less. Some sources say that the S4 Exynos octa-core supports 20 LTE bands, but often responses from people say that the Korean LTE S4 won't work with US LTE bands. Wiki contains some info on the S4 and LTE bands but I'm a noob so it's not clear to me why it is a definite no for LTE in the US.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S4
SHV-E300/ - Korean with 3 variations: K, L and S
K: GSM, DCS
L: CLR, IMT
S: CLR, DCS
GT-I9505 - International version
800, 850, GSM, 1800 MHz, IMT, IMT-E
SGH-I337 - AT&T
700 MHz (Band 17), AWS, IMT, IMT-E
SGH-M919 - TMobile
700 MHz (Band 17), CLR, AWS, PCS, IMT, IMT-E
I'm targetting to use the S4 on Tmobile LTE. So according to that info Tmobile supports 6 LTE bands, some of which are also listed under the K, L and S variations of the Korean S4. To me that sorta implies that Tmobile LTE would work, but then I'm a noob and not sure how that works out. I don't know how reliable the Wiki info is so it'll be great to know. I've also seen sources that say the Korean S4 supports LTE bands 1/4/7/17. The info are scattered around and carriers don't specifically release these info so that makes things even harder.
But assuming the wiki info is reliable, if you can explain how it works or not work would you please enlighten the rest of us. Thanks.
soundping said:
I'm using a app called SKT Hidden Menu with my SHV-E300S. You can change the network channels to work in the US.
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i have a shv-e300s too, and i have used lte because of skt hidden menu by switching to option lte all on the network mode because it doesnt have the option lte band 1 like your app do. and a few days ago my lte suddenly stopped working and i don't receive signals from my network when i switch to lte all. do i need to root it first? im from the Philippines by the way and my network use band 1 for lte thanks bro
I am really interested in the Korean version of this phone (with the removable battery and sd card slot), but there seems to be confusion over which models support which frequency bands... so my question is..
Do any of them support 3G on the 850/1900 band???
Thanks
Yes I will also like to know as well. Because I would to get this vein so I don't have to stock with a contact.
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Warrimonk said:
Do any of them support 3G on the 850/1900 band???
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Look what F240S can has in attachment. So I think it supports 1900 band. As well as F240K. And F320S/F320K will work with 1900 to
Best way for your is to ask people which have korean G Pro at hand to make you screenshots of their bands by menu 5457#*240#
Billy Madison said:
Look what F240S can has in attachment. So I think it supports 1900 band. As well as F240K. And F320S/F320K will work with 1900 to
Best way for your is to ask people which have korean G Pro at hand to make you screenshots of their bands by menu 5457#*240#
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Thanks, this is helpful.
However I am torn between which band would be more useful to me, 850 or 1900 (I live in a rural area). I can live with 3G but not 2G,
UPDATE: A G2 with model number F320S was listed on eBay saying it supports HSDPA 850/900/1900/2100 in the description. I messaged the seller to make sure it was not a mistake, and he assured me that the device does support these 3G frequencies and that it would get 3G signal on carriers Canada.
Just got this phone. I am in US and need to know where you went to get those setting. Currently only getting 3G
Thanks
tpcastelli said:
Just got this phone. I am in US and need to know where you went to get those setting. Currently only getting 3G
Thanks
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What carrier are you with? You should only get 3G, since none of the LTE variants that work in the US are released yet.
Yes thank you, I am getting 3G on AT&T. Battery is very cooperative on 3G. Every time I dial a voice call the phone thinks I am in Korea ...can not find any setting in phone for region, any chance you might know how to change regions? The phone is very ergonomic, probably the moist ergonomic I have used.
tpcastelli said:
Yes thank you, I am getting 3G on AT&T. Battery is very cooperative on 3G. Every time I dial a voice call the phone thinks I am in Korea ...can not find any setting in phone for region, any chance you might know how to change regions? The phone is very ergonomic, probably the moist ergonomic I have used.
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MoreLocale 2 in the app store seems to do the trick but I don't have an lg g2 to test it. I guess you need to root it first and grant superuser permissions because of the way jellybean handles it.I came up with this thru a couple Google searches so its untested.
I'm tempted. I'm on straight talk in the USA. If it worked, tell me as a thanks cause I kinda want to get it. I wonder if it supports tmobiles hspa+42 network. I use a T-Mobile straight talk sim card...., it runs off of T-Mobile's network but I pay straight talk but no LTE.
I will give it a try. First I need root, do you know where I can get root for the LG G2?
Warrimonk said:
I am really interested in the Korean version of this phone (with the removable battery and sd card slot), but there seems to be confusion over which models support which frequency bands... so my question is..
Do any of them support 3G on the 850/1900 band???
Thanks
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Dono if you still need it. But here it is:
320S:
GSM 850/900/1800/1900
UMTS B1B2B5 850/1900/2100
LTE B1B3B5B7 850/1800/2100/2600
320K:
GSM 850/900/1800/1900
UMTS B1B2B5 850/1900/2100
LTE B1B3B7B8 900/1800/2100/2600
No info on the 320L
Thanks. That clears a lot up. It is good to see 2 models with a large range of bands.
It really is amazing how many websites had bad info.
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Along the same lines, does anyone know what the model number is of the G2 that works on Verizon bands?
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Dono if you still need it. But here it is:
320S:
GSM 850/900/1800/1900
UMTS B1B2B5 850/1900/2100
LTE B1B3B5B7 850/1800/2100/2600
320K:
GSM 850/900/1800/1900
UMTS B1B2B5 850/1900/2100
LTE B1B3B7B8 900/1800/2100/2600
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I doubt it, where do you get this bands? native Korean models never had LTE 2600 supported, so that must be fakes
Billy Madison said:
I doubt it, where do you get this bands? native Korean models never had LTE 2600 supported, so that must be fakes
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I can confirm the LTE 2600 supported. I'm using the SK version in Hong Kong and can use both LTE 1800 and LTE 2600 with this phone.
krmdb said:
I can confirm the LTE 2600 supported. I'm using the SK version in Hong Kong and can use both LTE 1800 and LTE 2600 with this phone.
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I bought the 320L, how I can check what band it support ?
Sam2hk said:
I bought the 320L, how I can check what band it support ?
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Dial 5457#*320# and look for Band selection menu. Don't tinker with it, just make please screenshots 4 us pressing and holding "power+vol.down"
Then LTE channels screenshots will be appreciated too. The more the better
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Dial 5457#*320# and look for Band selection menu. Don't tinker with it, just make please screenshots 4 us pressing and holding "power+vol.down"
Then LTE channels screenshots will be appreciated too. The more the better
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Attached is the screenshots, see if these are the one you looking for.
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Attached is the screenshots, see if these are the one you looking for.
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Attached is another screen of the GSM/WDCDMA ?
These are the 2G / 3G Band ?
Sam2hk said:
Attached is another screen of the GSM/WDCDMA ?
These are the 2G / 3G Band ?
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Yes
Billy Madison said:
I doubt it, where do you get this bands? native Korean models never had LTE 2600 supported, so that must be fakes
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I'm using the F320K and here is the bands i have.
Hi guys.
Sorry if it sounds like a noobish question, but I had to ask it before I pre-order the S800 variant of the Note 3. My main reason for doing so being the developer support, looking at how the EXYNOS devices are a bit of a mess in this aspect. I mostly use WifFi.
I just wanted to ask that will I be able to use the S800 variant without any issues in a country (Oman) that's still not very big in terms of LTE. I mean, in terms of getting normal mobile services. Like mentioned above, not really bothered about LTE per se, just that I'd like to have the S800 version for the developer and community support.
Thanks!
lak47 said:
Hi guys.
Sorry if it sounds like a noobish question, but I had to ask it before I pre-order the S800 variant of the Note 3. My main reason for doing so being the developer support, looking at how the EXYNOS devices are a bit of a mess in this aspect. I mostly use WifFi.
I just wanted to ask that will I be able to use the S800 variant without any issues in a country (Oman) that's still not very big in terms of LTE. I mean, in terms of getting normal mobile services. Like mentioned above, not really bothered about LTE per se, just that I'd like to have the S800 version for the developer and community support.
Thanks!
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well, looking at the different frequency bands used in your country from wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mobile_network_operators_of_the_Middle_East_and_Africa#Oman
I found out that Oman uses the 2100MHZ band for UMTS, and looking at the used frequencies in LTE from this wikipedia article:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks#Middle_East
I found out that your country uses either the 1800Mhz or the 2300Mhz bands depending on the network.
Given what you need, I would go with the international 4G version N9005 if you wanted LTE support or the international 3G version N9000.
From negrielectronics.com, the N9005 supports the following bands:
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
4G Network LTE 800 / 900 / 1800 / 2100 / 2600
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As you can clearly see, the 2100Mhz band needed for 3G is supported by the international version, however, only the 1800Mhz is supported for LTE, so you might have LTE or not depending on what network you are on.
As for the N9000:
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
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Also, you can clearly see that the needed band for 3G, the 2100Mhz band, is supported, so you will have 3G in your country.
BOTH of these mentioned variants are SD800 variants, and they will both work for 3G in your country, you can check them out at:
negrielectronics.com
Hope this helps
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Thank you sharl1987! That's good information.
So basically I should not have an issue using this device.
Just for good measure, this is the device:
http://www.clove.co.uk/samsung-galaxy-note-3
lak47 said:
Thank you sharl1987! That's good information.
So basically I should not have an issue using this device.
Just for good measure, this is the device:
http://www.clove.co.uk/samsung-galaxy-note-3
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Yes, I do not foresee any problems with the device you are planning to purchase, it supports the 2100 Mhz band needed for your country. However, just to be in the safe side, I would call your mobile carrier and verify that they indeed are using the 2100Mhz band for 3G, I can guarantee my findings, I cannot vouch for the information I found on wikipedia.
sharl1987 said:
Yes, I do not foresee any problems with the device you are planning to purchase, it supports the 2100 Mhz band needed for your country. However, just to be in the safe side, I would call your mobile carrier and verify that they indeed are using the 2100Mhz band for 3G, I can guarantee my findings, I cannot vouch for the information I found on wikipedia.
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Actually it most probably won't work given that all EU versions will only work on European sim cards on the GN3 for some reason. I would recommend getting it from Omasco just to be sure.
Crimso said:
Actually it most probably won't work given that all EU versions will only work on European sim cards on the GN3 for some reason. I would recommend getting it from Omasco just to be sure.
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well my reply was before the damn announced region locked move. I am so pissed of about it. BYE BYE SAMSUNG