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Hi, Just making sure this phone's 3G bands wouldn't work in W. Europe's 3G 2100 bands. Can anyone confirm? AWS is 1700/2100, which I think is upload/download. AFAIK, you would need the phone to do both upload and download in the 2100 region.
This phone works perfectly fine in europe on 3g.
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This phone works perfectly fine in europe on 3g.
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What makes you say that? Not that I know for sure either way, but I've just seen answers going in either direction. Some say yes, some no.
Here's what I know:
Most of W. Europe uses 3G 2100 (perhaps a little 900?).
This phone has bands listed as 1700/AWS/2100.
This phone uses Band IV (T-Mobile) which uses both 1700 and 2100 (one for upload and one for download I think).
When the phone is listed as "1700/AWS/2100", does that mean it will do both AWS *and* 1700 upload/download *and* 2100 upload/download? If so, then I'm golden. But, I think this phone only does AWS, meaning that one of the bands is dedicated to one data direction only, i.e. one upload and the other download. So, I'm inclined to believe it wouldn't work on 3G in Europe.
It DOES WORK in Europe!
The phone DOES work in Europe. I used it in Norway in December, France and Portugal in January.
The thing is be very careful no to roam data or it is going to cost you a fortune!!!
If you must roam data, take a look at http://xcomglobal.com/. I used their MiFI and simply loved it!
Hope this helps,
Q
Q.Entity said:
The phone DOES work in Europe. I used it in Norway in December, France and Portugal in January.
The thing is be very careful no to roam data or it is going to cost you a fortune!!!
If you must roam data, take a look at http://xcomglobal.com/. I used their MiFI and simply loved it!
Hope this helps,
Q
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Thanks for the reply, but did you see the H icon then, and not just the E icon while in Europe? I realize that EDGE/GPRS would work just fine for data, but 3G is still in question. Even HTC says this phone, which is equipped only with AWS (Band IV), will not work in Europe for 3G data. I'm moving to Europe soon, and I'd just as soon sell it here before I leave. Thanks...
WHat I remember is seeing an R icon to warn me about the roaming. I turn the data off almost immediately so I did not pay much attention to it. I am not back in Europe until the first week in March. I guess by then you will know the answer...
In Europe ... data not working w/ Euro SIM card
I'm in Germany with an unlocked MT4G and, while the calling feature works, the data/internet package does not. Per the carrier here (Tchibo/O2), they use the 1800 band which to my knowledge IS supported by the device.
Any ideas of why this isn't working would be appreciated ... of course more appreciated would be any ideas for a solution.
Cheers,
The phone works fine with AWS and 2100 bands.
AWS is 1700 MHz band.
The device ONLY supports AWS and 2100. It doesn't support 1800 (which doesn't even exist) or 1900 or any other bands.
This phone is quad band for voice and GPRS/EDGE data - meaning 800, 1900 for N. America and 900, 1800 for Europe. It does not support the 2100 3G band as found in Europe. 3G is only supported over the AWS band in N. America, which is *both* 1700 and 2100 simultaneously.
EDIT: It appears that the specs on this phone are somewhat ambiguous. The phone supports "1700/2100/AWS". It's not clear whether the phone supports BOTH Band I (Europe 2100) and Band IV (N. America 1700/2100). There are very sporadic reports that 3G does indeed work in Europe, and hence, Band I. There are other reports to the contrary. It could be that one group is right and one is wrong, and it could also be that there are multiple batches.
floepie said:
This phone is quad band for voice and GPRS/EDGE data - meaning 800, 1900 for N. America and 900, 1800 for Europe. It does not support the 2100 3G band as found in Europe. 3G is only supported over the AWS band in N. America, which is *both* 1700 and 2100 simultaneously.
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Please set your facts straight / upgrade your knowledge.
AWS is using frequencies in 1700-ish and 2100-ish MHz range.
But:
2100 MHz is a separate band, found in Europe, as well as in most of the world.
It's supported by this phone, regardless of AWS.
I'm using it RIGHT NOW.
And it happens to be fully functional.
When phone specs refer to frequency, they actually refer to an operating band name.
MT4G technical specs state that it supports 1700 and 2100 bands - which are IV and I, respectively.
Thus, it works in Europe, using band I.
And I'm only referring to UMTS bands, not GSM.
Jack_R1 said:
Please set your facts straight / upgrade your knowledge.
AWS is using frequencies in 1700-ish and 2100-ish MHz range.
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Nice edit! Looks like you've upgraded yourself too.
Jack_R1 said:
I'm using it RIGHT NOW.
And it happens to be fully functional.
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...while others claim otherwise. See my "edit" above.
Jack_R1 said:
When phone specs refer to frequency, they actually refer to an operating band name.
MT4G technical specs state that it supports 1700 and 2100 bands - which are IV and I, respectively.
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Wikipedia isn't so great for supporting evidence. Also doesn't explain why the manufacturer lists the 3G specs as "1700/2100/AWS". The AWS is both ambiguous and redundant if the above were true.
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Nice edit! Looks like you've upgraded yourself too.
...while others claim otherwise. See my "edit" above.
Wikipedia isn't so great for supporting evidence. Also doesn't explain why the manufacturer lists the 3G specs as "1700/2100/AWS". The AWS is both ambiguous and redundant if the above were true.
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Yes, edited the post. My problem - sometimes the urge to make sure I'm not writing bullstuff occurs after I actually write some
I'll explain the sporadic reports: at least in part of Europe, the coverage is 900/2100 bands and not only 2100 band. In these cases, phones like Nexus One would work, but Mytouch 4G wouldn't. There is another Wikipedia link, list of UMTS carriers with their bandwidth, and you can see which countries are "affected". I remember for sure that France is.
Very few people are credible sources for reports.
First Google result for "Mytouch 4G specs":
http://mytouch.t-mobile.com/mytouch-3g-slide-phone-specifications
UMTS: Yes; Bands: 1700/2100
I don't see any mention of AWS and 1700 in the same place as 2 different bands. And I don't believe that specs should be taken from other sites, that aren't hosting official data. They're definitely not so great for supporting evidence
The phone is 100% working with 2100 band.
Fair enough. Although, it states directly on the box ----> "1700/AWS/2100". Therein lies the ambiguity and/or redundancy.
hi,
would 3G work in the UK with this phone? O2 in Uk uses 2100 W-CDMA so would it work?
Does anyone have it in the UK?
sorry if this is a stupid question.
Aiex Rlder said:
hi,
would 3G work in the UK with this phone? O2 in Uk uses 2100 W-CDMA so would it work?
Does anyone have it in the UK?
sorry if this is a stupid question.
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I use O2 in Ireland with my mt4g when I'm over there with no problems, however my O2 plan is pay as you go with no data so I cant comment on the data there.
I bought a one month PAYG data-only plan while in Sweden (Telia).
I was averaging 3-4mb downloads in areas where I got 3G reception (reception at my in-law's summer house, on the other hand, is a different matter).
I am going over to europe soon, i plan on just turning on wifi and starbucks hope all over faster than 3G
any more helpful insights anyone?
I believe you've got your answer.
The phone works with 2100 band, so you'll have 3G.
Samsung needs to tell us clearly what is what with the Note 2. If someone wants to buy an International Note 2, from say UK, and not wait till Nov., will the Note 2 from UK work on ATT with LTE? Why can't Samsung publish the radio bands for the International Note 2? I have looked at numerous websites and some list LTE and others don't, and overseas LTE radio bands appear different than ATT, as an example.It would seem we should be told what is what, so all can clearly understand what device to buy from where, if one wants LTE. I don't have on original Note, but have on S3, and totally a requirement going forward. LTE is so much much faster than 3G that I don't want to buy a Note 2 if it isn't capable of LTE that works on ATT. I rather wait till mid Nov. and get directly from ATT than get 6 weeks sooner, if it only has 3G. Perhaps I will just wait to be sure, but seems straightforward question that easily can be answered and published by Samsung.
Maybe I have missed something, but I can't find any definitive info regarding this LTE subject. Samsung needs to communicate.
I am also trying to figure out which version to buy and every site says something different,
This is phonearena which I am going off of
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/Samsung-GALAXY-Note-II_id7254
spridell said:
I am also trying to figure out which version to buy and every site says something different,
This is phonearena which I am going off of
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/Samsung-GALAXY-Note-II_id7254
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Additional examples, Clove UK specs say nothing about 4G LTE, yet Negri Electronics specs calls out 4G LTE...and on and on......Handtec in UK spec does call out 4G LTE, and we know Handtec and Clove UK will be getting the same device. Handtec spec:
3G: HSPA＋ 21Mbps (HSDPA 21Mbps / HSUPA 5.76Mbps) 4G LTE: 100Mbps/ 50Mbps (HDSPA 42Mbps / HSUPA 5.76Mbps)
I'm going off this:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/09/12/galaxy-note-2-fcc/
The GT-N7105 model doesn't have LTE bands, so deductive reasoning says the N7100 model might.
...although it might not
Funk2641 said:
I'm going off this:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/09/12/galaxy-note-2-fcc/
The GT-N7105 model doesn't have LTE bands, so deductive reasoning says the N7100 model might.
...although it might not
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Agreed, but my point, no one knows, so Samsung step up and tell us.....................hello
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Agreed, but my point, no one knows, so Samsung step up and tell us.....................hello
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There sure is conflicting info everywhere.
N7100 is non LTE,
N7105 has LTE
The galaxy s3 I9300 has no LTE
While their I9305 model does have LTE
Look for the 05 to identify the LTE model. Now whether a European LTE model will work in The USA or vice versa is another headache
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There sure is conflicting info everywhere.
N7100 is non LTE,
N7105 has LTE
The galaxy s3 I9300 has no LTE
While their I9305 model does have LTE
Look for the 05 to identify the LTE model. Now whether a European LTE model will work in The USA or vice versa is another headache
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That is the million dollar question, will the N7105 LTE model work on the LTE carriers here in the USA.
If it does that would be awesome.
I am also slightly peeved about this. Then again, it's not like I will have it in my hands the moment I know the LTE bands. According to the Engadget article it states no "US-FRIENDLY" LTE bands, which may no imply the device not having LTE altogether.
I would suspect the LTE version sold outside America will have LTE 800/900/1800/2100/2600 (meaning it will work perfectly on all LTE networks in Europe and almost everywhere else in the world) and then America will have their own versions that support your (AT&T for GSM version) 700MHz LTE band.
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Samsung needs to tell us clearly what is what with the Note 2. If someone wants to buy an International Note 2, from say UK, and not wait till Nov., will the Note 2 from UK work on ATT with LTE? Why can't Samsung publish the radio bands for the International Note 2? I have looked at numerous websites and some list LTE and others don't, and overseas LTE radio bands appear different than ATT, as an example.It would seem we should be told what is what, so all can clearly understand what device to buy from where, if one wants LTE. I don't have on original Note, but have on S3, and totally a requirement going forward. LTE is so much much faster than 3G that I don't want to buy a Note 2 if it isn't capable of LTE that works on ATT. I rather wait till mid Nov. and get directly from ATT than get 6 weeks sooner, if it only has 3G. Perhaps I will just wait to be sure, but seems straightforward question that easily can be answered and published by Samsung.
Maybe I have missed something, but I can't find any definitive info regarding this LTE subject. Samsung needs to communicate.
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There are at least 5 different versions if not more. Although it is LTE capable, the version sold for England does not have a LTE chip, The German one does but it will not work on ATT. There are no LTE networks in Europe that I know about compatible with ATT LTE bands. If you buy one in Europe plan on using 3G and 2G on ATT. Make sure it has these bands:
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
ATT uses 850 and 1900 for 2G and 3G. You need both.
To use ATT LTE you need a chip for this:
LTE 700 MHz Class 17 / 1700 / 2100.
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There are at least 5 different versions if not more. Although it is LTE capable, the version sold for England does not have a LTE chip, The German one does but it will not work on ATT. There are no LTE networks in Europe that I know about compatible with ATT LTE bands. If you buy one in Europe plan on using 3G and 2G on ATT. Make sure it has these bands:
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
ATT uses 850 and 1900 for 2G and 3G. You need both.
To use ATT LTE you need a chip for this:
LTE 700 MHz Class 17 / 1700 / 2100.
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Negri Electronics (Las Vegas) pre order lists the Note 2 as follows:
3G/4G bands 850 , 900 , 1900 , 2100
DATA GPRS Yes
EDGE Yes
Speed HSDPA, 21 Mbps; HSUPA, 5.76 Mbps; LTE, Cat3, 50 Mbps UL, 100 Mbps
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
4G Network LTE 700 MHz Class 17 / 2100
If accurate, this will work with ATT LTE, yes?
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Negri Electronics (Las Vegas) pre order lists the Note 2 as follows:
3G/4G bands 850 , 900 , 1900 , 2100
DATA GPRS Yes
EDGE Yes
Speed HSDPA, 21 Mbps; HSUPA, 5.76 Mbps; LTE, Cat3, 50 Mbps UL, 100 Mbps
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
4G Network LTE 700 MHz Class 17 / 2100
If accurate, this will work with ATT LTE, yes?
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You need to confirm LTE 700 MHz Class 17 / 2100 is on board the model they are selling you. There are a lot of different versions and not all have LTE chips and the ones that do have LTE chips for different areas. There is a CDMA version that US Cellular has up for preorder.
apparently there is a bunch of Gnote II types...this is just confusing why wouldnt they just have a 4g for all?
just realized the one i bought from Handtec will not have 4g/LTE
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=3807&c=samsung_gt-n7105_galaxy_note_ii_lte_32gb
There is an NDA on the 4g version.
EE has an exclusivity package.
Yep most UK information points to EE having the 4G LTE version.
I hate looking at mobile phone websites the first thing you see is iphone5! Then search for phones coming soon and galaxy note 2 isn't even there!
Samsung needs to get their marketing sorted 4 days to go and nobody knows for sure wtf going on. Carriers are equally to blame for lack of information.
On GSMArena, both phones are listed under the same page with these details:
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 - all models
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 - N9005
4G Network LTE 800 / 850 / 900 / 1800 / 2100 / 2600 - N9005
Which are for the N9000? And which for the N9005?
My carrier is using 900Mhz and 1800Mhz for 2G and 2100Mhz for 3G with no 4G yet. Will the N9005 work fine? I prefer to get a LTE-ready phone because I travel a lot.
-EDIT: My sources can't confirm whether the 900Mhz band is supported for 2G or 3G but it should help with basic reception for phone calls either way.
BullHorn7 said:
On GSMArena, both phones are listed under the same page with these details:
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 - all models
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 - N9005
4G Network LTE 800 / 850 / 900 / 1800 / 2100 / 2600 - N9005
Which are for the N9000? And which for the N9005?
My carrier is using 900Mhz and 1800Mhz for 2G and 2100Mhz for 3G with no 4G yet. Will the N9005 work fine? I prefer to get a LTE-ready phone because I travel a lot.
-EDIT: My sources can't confirm whether the 900Mhz band is supported for 2G or 3G but it should help with basic reception for phone calls either way.
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If the phone you are looking at shows 4G bands, then it's N9005. From what you mentioned about the frequencies used by our carrier, the N9005 will work just fine. However, consider the regional lock problem before you buy a grey market device. The phone you buy might be capable of working with your network, but that does not mean it will actually work.
sharl1987 said:
If the phone you are looking at shows 4G bands, then it's N9005. From what you mentioned about the frequencies used by our carrier, the N9005 will work just fine. However, consider the regional lock problem before you buy a grey market device. The phone you buy might be capable of working with your network, but that does not mean it will actually work.
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Great news, thanks. Yes, Samsung should eat **** and die for their latest stunt. I almost think they've done it purposefully to create a giant wave of free-marketing because there's no such thing as bad publicity.
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Great news, thanks. Yes, Samsung should eat **** and die for their latest stunt. I almost think they've done it purposefully to create a giant wave of free-marketing because there's no such thing as bad publicity.
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well, you can always use an unlocking service. Many members have tried that method and it worked for them.
sharl1987 said:
If the phone you are looking at shows 4G bands, then it's N9005. From what you mentioned about the frequencies used by our carrier, the N9005 will work just fine. However, consider the regional lock problem before you buy a grey market device. The phone you buy might be capable of working with your network, but that does not mean it will actually work.
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well, you can always use an unlocking service. Many members have tried that method and it worked for them.
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Nah. I'm not going to pay extra money to unlock and unlocked sim-free international phone.
Thanks Samsung for helping me save my money by not buying your ****.
I'm looking for help to find:
1) Which MPN firmware version works on bands 1, 3 8 and 20.
2) Where can I download that MPN to flash it to my N9005.
I found out the hard way that the Samsung Galaxy Note 3 LTE/4G N9005, international unlocked model will not necessarily work on the bands which it is compatible with due to a stupid Samsung policy: Samsung locks some bands on their factory unlocked phone!
Absurd and stupid!
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If the phone you are looking at shows 4G bands, then it's N9005. From what you mentioned about the frequencies used by our carrier, the N9005 will work just fine. However, consider the regional lock problem before you buy a grey market device. The phone you buy might be capable of working with your network, but that does not mean it will actually work.
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Yes, you are right!
I discovered that the N9005:
- Comes in a number of different MPN versions (*)
- Each MPN version is locked to certain radios/frequencies (even though the N9005 phone is a factory unlocked phone).
- Up to a maximum of 6 radios can be set per each version.
(*)
ZKEXSI, ZKEBTU, ZWEBTU, ZIEITV, ZKEITV, ZWEITV, ZKEPHE, ZKEDBT, ZWEPHN, ZKEPHN, ZKATGY... just to mention a few.
I flashed the new 4.4.2 Polish OS (XXUENA6, OXXENA5, XXUENA2) on my N90005 to try to unlock the LTE bands that I'm interested in (1, 3 8 and 20) as I have 2 contracts (Vodafone Italy & Softbank Japan) but I found out that my N9005 will not work with these 2 operators, even though it is compatible.
Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
I've been looking for ways to use my N9005 with Tmobile US but the frequency is different so I don't get and LTE signal. Did you guys find a way if we can add frequencies manually? Or is it really with the hardware?
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I've been looking for ways to use my N9005 with Tmobile US but the frequency is different so I don't get and LTE signal. Did you guys find a way if we can add frequencies manually? Or is it really with the hardware?
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I read somewhere this is possible on the Note 2, but it might take a while before someone does it on the Note 3...
xdm9mm said:
I read somewhere this is possible on the Note 2, but it might take a while before someone does it on the Note 3...
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Oh okay. Thank you. I thought we can try to flash a tmobile modem on N9005 to make it work. But I guess it will ruin my phone.
Hello,
I heard that there are different LTE frequencies and i'm not sure if a LTE Nexus 7 bought in Canada would work in Germany? Probably this is an hardware issue and can't be changed with a custom Rom or something? Or is there a way to get it working? Thanks for your help.
MadMatt89 said:
Hello,
I heard that there are different LTE frequencies and i'm not sure if a LTE Nexus 7 bought in Canada would work in Germany? Probably this is an hardware issue and can't be changed with a custom Rom or something? Or is there a way to get it working? Thanks for your help.
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Why not buying the LTE-version at the MediaMarkt in Germany? Then you are sure LTE will work in Germany (and the rest of Europe!)!
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Why not buying the LTE-version at the MediaMarkt in Germany? Then you are sure LTE will work in Germany (and the rest of Europe!)!
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Maybe because I'm in Canada?
The supported LTE frequencies are different. They are listed here:
https://support.google.com/nexus/7/answer/3248332?hl=en
You will have very, very little LTE coverage with a North American N7 in Europe. Things look good for GSM/HSPA+.
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The supported LTE frequencies are different. They are listed here:
https://support.google.com/nexus/7/answer/3248332?hl=en
You will have very, very little LTE coverage with a North American N7 in Europe. Things look good for GSM/HSPA+.
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So could I use the n7 but it will most likely just get HSPA+?
But it is hardware locked isnt it? So I can't change the bands with software?
MadMatt89 said:
So could I use the n7 but it will most likely just get HSPA+?
But it is hardware locked isnt it? So I can't change the bands with software?
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Theoretically - but since Qualcomm is keeping the tech notes for the WRT1605L chip very hard to obtain - and since there is no software to do this - and since it's entirely possible the chip is 'select once' (I've read through the API for the chipset and can find lots of 'look up the settings' but no 'change the settings' commands), I would say 'not gonna happen soon'.
In fact, it's slightly worse than you might think. Canada uses bands 4 and 7 which ARE included in the European model, but only band 4 is included in the US model - so we're already taking a compatibility hit. Even worse, the US model only uses six of the seven bands the chip can support at one time - you'd think they'd have thrown in 7 just for compatibility reasons.
In any case, the 'unlocked' they refer to is 'carrier unlocked' which means you can use it with any carrier... not unlocked as in 'you can change the bands'.
I think the unit sold in Canada is the "Rest Of World" unit, since there is more overlap between the Canadian LTE frequencies than the North America / Japan unit.
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I think the unit sold in Canada is the "Rest Of World" unit, since there is more overlap between the Canadian LTE frequencies than the North America / Japan unit.
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I contacted the Google customer service and they said thats true, Canada belongs to the "Rest Of World"
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I think the unit sold in Canada is the "Rest Of World" unit, since there is more overlap between the Canadian LTE frequencies than the North America / Japan unit.
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Sadly - this is incorrect statement . I bought mine and it does not connect to LTE. I called rogers Canada and they said you need LTE 2600MHz to be able to connect at the LTE rate. So i called Google Play and after 45 minutes in the call , they said bottom line is if you in Canada ( which is North America, d'oh! ) you are not getting 2600MHz on your Nexus 7. And Basta !
... does this make any sense ???
dinar said:
Sadly - this is incorrect statement . I bought mine and it does not connect to LTE. I called rogers Canada and they said you need LTE 2600MHz to be able to connect at the LTE rate. So i called Google Play and after 45 minutes in the call , they said bottom line is if you in Canada ( which is North America, d'oh! ) you are not getting 2600MHz on your Nexus 7. And Basta !
... does this make any sense ???
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This information is incorrect or at least outdated. Rogers supports the 2100 MHz and 2600 MHz LTE bands. Hardware-wise, the 2100 MHz band is supported on the Nexus 7 (US/Canada); the 2600 MHz band is only supported on the International Nexus 7. The 2100 MHz band is the default band for Rogers LTE -- everywhere that Rogers has deployed LTE, they have deployed 2100 MHz. I personally use my Nexus 7 (US/Canada) on the Rogers network, with LTE, and it works fine.
However, if you want to use the Rogers "LTE Max" service, then yes, you need both 2100 MHz and 2600 MHz. LTE Max uses both frequency bands to increase throughput. On LTE Max, 150Mb/s downstream rates are theoretically achievable. The regular Rogers LTE, on the 2100 MHz band (without 2600 MHz) can only reach 75Mb/s downstream. The Rogers 2600 MHz band is only active in a very few areas (mainly very big cities). Outside of these few areas, you can't get LTE Max, and the only way to get any LTE at all is via 2100 MHz.
Personally, I have no problem with "only" 75Mb/s downstream.
[Q] Difference btwn Carrier phone(t-mobile, AT&T etc.) & International n9005 LTE
Hi,
I would like to know if theres a difference between a carrier phone(t-mobile, AT&T etc.) & International n9005 LTE? I try looking up the information and through the forums but I'm still kind of confuse and dont have a set answer. I know the carrier phone is n900 but other than that is there any differences? I live in the US. now but I use to have international phones in case I travel, rooting wise and etc. But after the regional lock issue, I'm not sure which version to buy now.
Thank you!!:good:
mrpug said:
Hi,
I would like to know if theres a difference between a carrier phone(t-mobile, AT&T etc.) & International n9005 LTE? I try looking up the information and through the forums but I'm still kind of confuse and dont have a set answer. I know the carrier phone is n900 but other than that is there any differences? I live in the US. now but I use to have international phones in case I travel, rooting wise and etc. But after the regional lock issue, I'm not sure which version to buy now.
Thank you!!:good:
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It is my understanding and I am sure I will be corrected that the N900T, A V etc are not region locked. Just carrier locked. Fellow forum member did a nice write up about the differences of the US Carrier versions. His name is Mircury.
As far as I know the carrier models are carrier and region locked but if you root the device you can use ChainFire's region away app and you will be able to swap out sim cards based on your location. T-Mobile just unveiled free world roaming data usage though and with T-Mobile you can use WiFi calling so if you are outside the country you can use the data and make calls on WiFi at no additional cost.
The Carrier-specific versions have a few LTE bands unlocked that the International one doesn't.
Limeybastard said:
It is my understanding and I am sure I will be corrected that the N900T, A V etc are not region locked. Just carrier locked. Fellow forum member did a nice write up about the differences of the US Carrier versions. His name is Mircury.
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ah thanks, found it, was really helpful:good:
so technically speaking international n9005LTE will not be compatible with t-mobile's 3g or 4g LTE? as the bandwidth as I see the people mention in that forum is not compatible?
I went to a store to check the phone out and a seller of the international n9005 told me the data will be running on H? would you happen to know what it means?
Thanks !
AdmiralCF420 said:
As far as I know the carrier models are carrier and region locked but if you root the device you can use ChainFire's region away app and you will be able to swap out sim cards based on your location. T-Mobile just unveiled free world roaming data usage though and with T-Mobile you can use WiFi calling so if you are outside the country you can use the data and make calls on WiFi at no additional cost.
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Ah I see, so would you assume that getting the T-mobile one will be better compare to the international n9005LTE?
mrpug said:
ah thanks, found it, was really helpful:good:
so technically speaking international n9005LTE will not be compatible with t-mobile's 3g or 4g LTE? as the bandwidth as I see the people mention in that forum is not compatible?
I went to a store to check the phone out and a seller of the international n9005 told me the data will be running on H? would you happen to know what it means?
Thanks !
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HSPA perhaps? I am not rooted or have I used Chairfires method. I have two options to prove this case, either buy a UK sim card here and put it in my phone and see what occurs or wait til I get there.
The N900T seems to okay, yes if you want to use it here on ATT or T mobile at least. With perhaps a little roaming overseas.
There is also another thread named something like Region locked, its over 100 pages, good luck!
Here you go..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2457964
mrpug said:
ah thanks, found it, was really helpful:good:
so technically speaking international n9005LTE will not be compatible with t-mobile's 3g or 4g LTE? as the bandwidth as I see the people mention in that forum is not compatible?
I went to a store to check the phone out and a seller of the international n9005 told me the data will be running on H? would you happen to know what it means?
Thanks !
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The order of speed is this: (Network/Signal Designation)
GSM/G (2G)
GPRS/G+ (2.5G)
EDGE/E (2.75G)
UMTS/3G (3G)
HSPA/H (3.5G)
HSPA+/H+ (3.75G)
LTE (3.9G)
LTE Advanced (4G)
So H is HSPA = 3.5G.
International N9005 can get the 3G signal on pretty much any frequency, including US. It's the LTE bands that are incompatible.
T-Mobile US runs LTE on the 1700Mhz band, and 3G on the 1900Mhz band.
AT&T and Verizon use the 700, 1700 and 2100Mhz band for LTE, and 850 and 1900Mhz for 3G.
Sprint uses the 800, 1900 and 2500Mhz for LTE, and 800 and 1900Mhz for 3G.
N9005 International gets:
GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
4G/LTE 800 / 850 / 900 / 1800 / 2100 / 2600.
Limeybastard said:
HSPA perhaps? I am not rooted or have I used Chairfires method. I have two options to prove this case, either buy a UK sim card here and put it in my phone and see what occurs or wait til I get there.
The N900T seems to okay, yes if you want to use it here on ATT or T mobile at least. With perhaps a little roaming overseas.
There is also another thread named something like Region locked, its over 100 pages, good luck!
Here you go..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2457964
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yea I read through that whole forum but was just confused about the differences
ShadowLea said:
The order of speed is this: (Network/Signal Designation)
GSM/G (2G)
GPRS/G+ (2.5G)
EDGE/E (2.75G)
UMTS/3G (3G)
HSPA/H (3.5G)
HSPA+/H+ (3.75G)
LTE (3.9G)
LTE Advanced (4G)
So H is HSPA = 3.5G.
International N9005 can get the 3G signal on pretty much any frequency, including US. It's the LTE bands that are incompatible.
T-Mobile US runs LTE on the 1700Mhz band, and 3G on the 1900Mhz band.
AT&T and Verizon use the 700, 1700 and 2100Mhz band for LTE, and 850 and 1900Mhz for 3G.
Sprint uses the 800, 1900 and 2500Mhz for LTE, and 800 and 1900Mhz for 3G.
N9005 International gets:
GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
4G/LTE 800 / 850 / 900 / 1800 / 2100 / 2600.
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Let us not forgot what other Bands the T MobileN900T has for LTE not just based on what they run here..
ShadowLea said:
The order of speed is this: (Network/Signal Designation)
GSM/G (2G)
GPRS/G+ (2.5G)
EDGE/E (2.75G)
UMTS/3G (3G)
HSPA/H (3.5G)
HSPA+/H+ (3.75G)
LTE (3.9G)
LTE Advanced (4G)
So H is HSPA = 3.5G.
International N9005 can get the 3G signal on pretty much any frequency, including US. It's the LTE bands that are incompatible.
T-Mobile US runs LTE on the 1700Mhz band, and 3G on the 1900Mhz band.
AT&T and Verizon use the 700, 1700 and 2100Mhz band for LTE, and 850 and 1900Mhz for 3G.
Sprint uses the 800, 1900 and 2500Mhz for LTE, and 800 and 1900Mhz for 3G.
N9005 International gets:
GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
4G/LTE 800 / 850 / 900 / 1800 / 2100 / 2600.
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ok now im understanding it better, I was trying to find information through the forums but I guess I got confuse reading information here and there cause some people were saying it runs on 2g and some says 3g.
Thank alot!:laugh:
mrpug said:
ok now im understanding it better, I was trying to find information through the forums but I guess I got confuse reading information here and there cause some people were saying it runs on 2g and some says 3g.
Thank alot!:laugh:
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I think in all honesty the best speed I will get with my Note 3 N900T in the UK will be 3G. Not until they start using band 7 2600 which is still not used but reserved for future.
Limeybastard said:
Let us not forgot what other Bands the T MobileN900T has for LTE not just based on what they run here..
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I just compared the N9005, which he asked about, with the US cellular providers. Having multiple bands is lovely, but if your provider isn't using them, they're also a bit pointless
mrpug said:
ok now im understanding it better, I was trying to find information through the forums but I guess I got confuse reading information here and there cause some people were saying it runs on 2g and some says 3g.
Thank alot!:laugh:
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It can get a bit confusing, yes.
ShadowLea said:
I just compared the N9005, which he asked about, with the US cellular providers. Having multiple bands is lovely, but if your provider isn't using them, they're also a bit pointless
It can get a bit confusing, yes.
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I thought he was like me and wanting to travel.? LOL
Limeybastard said:
I thought he was like me and wanting to travel.? LOL
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Your both correct lols :laugh: I mostly live in the US but for when I do travel which is often, its nice to know what the phone can and cannot do.
mrpug said:
Your both correct lols :laugh: I mostly live in the US but for when I do travel which is often, its nice to know what the phone can and cannot do.
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Don't worry I've done my research and concluded, if you live in the USA and travel then go for the N900T. I did :good:
Limeybastard said:
Don't worry I've done my research and concluded, if you live in the USA and travel then go for the N900T. I did :good:
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lols How often do you travel? Majority of the time i'm in the US
mrpug said:
lols How often do you travel? Majority of the time i'm in the US
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Not much, but when I do travel ( excuse the pun ) I go to the United Kingdom and occasionally whilst there travel to Gay Paris.:laugh:
Limeybastard said:
Not much, but when I do travel ( excuse the pun ) I go to the United Kingdom and occasionally whilst there travel to Gay Paris.:laugh:
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haha:laugh:, at least your traveling to Paris, I know people who would love to go there but haven't got the chance yet.
ShadowLea said:
The order of speed is this: (Network/Signal Designation)
GSM/G (2G)
GPRS/G+ (2.5G)
EDGE/E (2.75G)
UMTS/3G (3G)
HSPA/H (3.5G)
HSPA+/H+ (3.75G)
LTE (3.9G)
LTE Advanced (4G)
So H is HSPA = 3.5G.
International N9005 can get the 3G signal on pretty much any frequency, including US. It's the LTE bands that are incompatible.
T-Mobile US runs LTE on the 1700Mhz band, and 3G on the 1900Mhz band.
AT&T and Verizon use the 700, 1700 and 2100Mhz band for LTE, and 850 and 1900Mhz for 3G.
Sprint uses the 800, 1900 and 2500Mhz for LTE, and 800 and 1900Mhz for 3G.
N9005 International gets:
GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
4G/LTE 800 / 850 / 900 / 1800 / 2100 / 2600.
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So pretty much you won't be able to get a factory unlocked LTE Note 3 working on T-Mobile LTE? Please tell me I'm mistaken.