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upgrade to Evo3D locked in for August

I called Sprint yesterday and asked about the new upgrade policy and told the guy I got my Evo in August. I asked if I would still be eligible to upgrade to the 3d in august after the policy change. To my surprise he said yes. I knew that I wasn't supposed to after the policy changes so I asked him to make a note on my account that he said I would get the upgrade this year and the policy change will not affect me until my next upgrade is due. He did it ( at least he said he did). So since I have this noted on my account do you think Sprint will go against his word and say that I can't get my upgrade. I think they are going to just have to eat it and give me the phone at new contract price. I hope I am right. I would like to hear everyones opinion ( especially sprint employees) . If they do not honor this could I just cancel my contract and pay my $120 etf and sign a new contract to get it at the discounted price? Thanks.

Just call again and see if they can locate that note. Make sure they gibe you the interaction number. If the note is present then they have to honor it
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He did it ( at least he said he did). So since I have this noted on my account do you think Sprint will go against his word and say that I can't get my upgrade.
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Speaking from experience, I HIGHLY doubt he actually created the note. 99% of the time they will just tell you that to get you off the phone. For future things like this, ALWAYS get it in writing. Tell them to email it to you, and DONT hang up until you get the email. I bet you 20 bucks, that if you call back, and rep wont be able to find this note.

Besides it doesn't make one bit of difference what that guy writes in his notes. Just because he typed it in doesn't mean it HAS to happen. I actually think this post is kind of stupid but I guess there will be a lot of these. You sound like a teenager. You are either eligible or you aren't. They aren't going to change it the day before the phone comes out just to screw you over.

A good way to do that is via the live chat. After the session ends, you get a transcript of your typed conversation, which includes the time, date, and everything both you typed. I have a copy of my last chat with them I'm saving, just in case. But I also agree with zone23, I don't know if they'll actually do whatever they said they would, they might tell you to go pound sand.

l8agin said:
A good way to do that is via the live chat. After the session ends, you get a transcript of your typed conversation, which includes the time, date, and everything both you typed. I have a copy of my last chat with them I'm saving, just in case. But I also agree with zone23, I don't know if they'll actually do whatever they said they would, they might tell you to go pound sand.
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Actually the phrase is salt go pound salt you know because it would burn your pecker... i'm just saying thats the phrase.. you probably know that.
Ya I doubt any of those chats are going to be binding in any way. I mean the one you have saved for example who's to say you didn't alter it?
Glad everyone is excited about this phone I know I am.

zone23 said:
Actually the phrase is salt go pound salt you know because it would burn your pecker...
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Believe you me, pounding sand hurts too.

zone23 said:
Actually the phrase is salt go pound salt you know because it would burn your pecker... i'm just saying thats the phrase.. you probably know that.
Ya I doubt any of those chats are going to be binding in any way. I mean the one you have saved for example who's to say you didn't alter it?
Glad everyone is excited about this phone I know I am.
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Never heard of pounding salt, but both are accurate. http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/go-pound-sand.html
Did you clarify it was the current full discount and not the new half discount? I'm sure they'll let you upgrade in august at a $75 discount.
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What is the policy change your talking about?
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zone23 said:
Actually the phrase is salt go pound salt you know because it would burn your pecker... i'm just saying thats the phrase.. you probably know that.
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I have nothing to contribute to this post but this quote is funny as ****. Lmfao I'm still laughing.
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Sirchuk said:
Never heard of pounding salt, but both are accurate. http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/go-pound-sand.html
Did you clarify it was the current full discount and not the new half discount? I'm sure they'll let you upgrade in august at a $75 discount.
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right, i'm thinking he's talking about the $100 subsidy and not the $200. for me, its not worth it to raise my plan $30 a month to save another $100 on the phone.
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There is no new upgrade policy other then if you are premier or not.

zone23 said:
Besides it doesn't make one bit of difference what that guy writes in his notes. Just because he typed it in doesn't mean it HAS to happen. I actually think this post is kind of stupid but I guess there will be a lot of these. You sound like a teenager. You are either eligible or you aren't. They aren't going to change it the day before the phone comes out just to screw you over.
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Hope, definitely not a teenager, I wish I still was. Im just somebody that doesn't care too much for being screwed over. I have given sprint my money on time every month for a year (in August) even though I use less than 500 minutes, 700 text, and 1Gb of data per month. I think with the money they make off me the least they can do is hold to their word and give me my upgrade.
Also as I had seen others mention he said that I would be eligible for the full $150 upgrade, not the $75 half upgrade.

I know that when I was working for [email protected] CS, if you noted something and told the customer they would get it, even if it was the wring thing to do. If they deny you if there is actually a note, ask to talk to a super visor, I can't even count how many times I've waived their upgrade due to similar situations like this.
Hopefully that was some useful input...

I have given sprint my money on time every month for a year (in August)
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So you have been a customer less than a year, and your complaining? Try being a customer for 8.5 years, and being told that means nothing...

zone23 said:
Besides it doesn't make one bit of difference what that guy writes in his notes. Just because he typed it in doesn't mean it HAS to happen. I actually think this post is kind of stupid but I guess there will be a lot of these. You sound like a teenager. You are either eligible or you aren't. They aren't going to change it the day before the phone comes out just to screw you over.
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Actually, if it's notated it must be honored, period. If he notated he would get his upgrade in August, Sprint will honor it, unless it's some crazy off the wall impossible thing like "customer will get credit of 10,000 (where the comma should have been a period and it should have read 100.00)

Guys look Evo 3D unlocked $699 going to be sold at this website wtf; has GSM and cdma.
http://www.mobilecityonline.com/wireless/store/search.asp?keywords=evo 3d
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dirkyd3rk said:
Guys look Evo 3D unlocked $699 going to be sold at this website wtf; has GSM and cdma.
http://www.mobilecityonline.com/wireless/store/search.asp?keywords=evo 3d
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Yeah dude I just looked at it I swear when I posted it all the accessories and info was there wtf lol those fools move fast man.
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sitlet said:
So you have been a customer less than a year, and your complaining? Try being a customer for 8.5 years, and being told that means nothing...
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Oh yeah I definitely know what you mean. I had a situation alot like that with Directtv. Now I have dish network and will never look back. I would be pissed. If I were you I would try doing what I did and call before April 1st and have them note it if they say you can get the upgrade. Worse case scenario is you wont get it and you will just be in the same boat as if you didn't call. Good luck. Hope you can get it worked out.

Read -> Sprint changing a few things... again.

Getting rid of the "premier customer", returns go from 30 to 14 days, upgrade moves from 22 to 20 months BUT upgrade fee goes from 18 to 36..... all these changes are probly because of the new iphone too.... f*ck sprint and the rest of em.
phandroid.com/2011/09/15/sprint-mak...ram-cuts-back-returnexchange-policy-and-more/

that was announced a month ago lol

its for whoever doesnt know.
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Agreed! F**k Sprint!

go away why did u have to bump this thread just to say that.
and obviously u didnt even read this thread because at no point was anyone bashing sprint witch means this was an epic fail for you.

Bierce22 said:
go away why did u have to bump this thread just to say that.
and obviously u didnt even read this thread because at no point was anyone bashing sprint witch means this was an epic fail for you.
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Check again Bierce:
The op said the same thing the Guy b4 u did....."F-sprint" so he did read the thread.
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i like sprint (for now), dont get me wrong. but they are slowly hiking prices and axing services. they just got rid of unlimited 4g hotspot.... i think its only a matter of time before unlimited data is a thing of the past.

youdug said:
i like sprint (for now), dont get me wrong. but they are slowly hiking prices and axing services. they just got rid of unlimited 4g hotspot.... i think its only a matter of time before unlimited data is a thing of the past.
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I'm not too sure about that. Mainly because every commercial i see for them is the
"We are sprint, we are truly unlimited" IMHO that's the only thing sprint has going for them, until the new iPhone comes out.

Sprint is still better than the alternatives though. Good customer service, awesome phones, etc. Everyone else has already done all this junk and gone to tiered plans so I'm happy that Sprint has kept their service as is for so long
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rubyknight said:
Sprint is still better than the alternatives though. Good customer service, awesome phones, etc. Everyone else has already done all this junk and gone to tiered plans so I'm happy that Sprint has kept their service as is for so long
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I agree, if you find a better service at Sprint's prices, let me know, I'll be upgrading soon.

youdug said:
i like sprint (for now), dont get me wrong. but they are slowly hiking prices and axing services. they just got rid of unlimited 4g hotspot.... i think its only a matter of time before unlimited data is a thing of the past.
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Is there really anyone that uses unlimited hotspot? I can't honestly imagine someone just tethering their laptop, gaming device, ect with their phone ALL day. The only thing that bothers me with the premier loss is return policy.

It is bs. I signed up for unlimited. I should get unlimited. If I spend anymore I might as well just get internet in my house instead of phone. What is this power trip all the carrier's seem to be on? The power to giveth, the power to take away? The power to cancel my service is what they'll get. I don't understand why sprint would make a move for the iphone and sacrifice the biggest advantage that no other carrier provides. That in my mind would be the gold mine and I would squat on it. Unless they are all acting together to gain greater profit from the consumer because they are all not happy with the percentages, it makes no sense. It does make sense however that they would all drop like dominos to the power of apple. After all, they have as much money saved up as our entire government. Tell me that isn't f'd up. Tell me a company like that can't do whatever they want and manipulate the system. I'm sure if we new everything we would pull out our guns to stop it. Die for it. But, who will ever know. Our worst enemy will be loved like family due to secrets and manipulation as we all suffer unrecognized poverty and enslavement. But, we are many.... and the day will come.

AT&T rep said this about teathering :

he asked what app i used ( i said none of course) and when in reality i didn't hit "hide on PDA net" but he asked if i used MIFI.
( i got out of this by saying i put my sim into another phone and it must have done something odd because the phone was an OLD phone that was having issues)

Was there a point? What did the rep say about tethering?
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Makes no sense...what are u trying to say?

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Thread moved. Would advise you to read forum rules and post in correct section.

I was just saying what the rep said. I don't know much about it but people seem to be collecting these experiences on xda from what IV been reading about so I figured I'd add my 2¢
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I still have no clue what you're talking about. Your first post is confusing,and your second doesn't clarify anything.
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Sorry,what im I'm trying to say is that there asking about it in depth now and automatically assuming you'r trying to do wrong. I'm only informing anyone who wanted to read what I was told.
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??? looks like a "bad trip" post to me... ???
Give him some credit... at least he came here instead of wandering through a forest while he was on that trip.

"Bad trip" post? What does that mean?
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ianwardell said:
"Bad trip" post? What does that mean?
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As in it looks like you ate a bag of mushrooms soaked in LSD and posted your thoughts on XDA.
And I'm an AT&T employee if you have any questions about Tethering.
And no, that doesn't mean I understand your first post.

ianwardell said:
"Bad trip" post? What does that mean?
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he's talking about you being on drugs. havent you ever seen Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas?

Most employees of carriers don't really care about you tethering. Sometimes they will tell you to get the sale. Sometimes even if they tell you, the end user is not able to perform the task.
Really, we don't care. Do it if you want. We're not reporting you or notating on your account that you are tethering for free.
This is like the carry threads on CC/OC forums. Like children saying, I open carried today. This guy stared at me and a kid asked if I was a cop. TEHE.
But really, I don't work for ATT. I work for another carrier. Reps would rather earn your trust for you to keep coming back to them. There's a internal war going on with Store Sales Reps and Customer Care / Over the Phone Reps. We'd rather have you deal with us in the store.

chrischoi said:
Most employees of carriers don't really care about you tethering. Sometimes they will tell you to get the sale. Sometimes even if they tell you, the end user is not able to perform the task.
Really, we don't care. Do it if you want. We're not reporting you or notating on your account that you are tethering for free.
This is like the carry threads on CC/OC forums. Like children saying, I open carried today. This guy stared at me and a kid asked if I was a cop. TEHE.
But really, I don't work for ATT. I work for another carrier. Reps would rather earn your trust for you to keep coming back to them. There's a internal war going on with Store Sales Reps and Customer Care / Over the Phone Reps. We'd rather have you deal with us in the store.
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You have no idea how many customers come in trying to hide the fact that they rooted / jailbroke / have installed tethering apps on their phones.
We really do not care. At all. It's your computer, you know the TOS, do what you want to do.
It only bothers me when they directly lie about it to me and I have to call them out on it....

Ahaha oh I get it now. Yah i posted this when I got home from a physics midterm so that was most likely why. And I actually do have a question every rep i have spoken to Gave me a different answer to this: what does teathering actually cover. Is phone to car Bluetooth teathering? One rep said yes another said no. Would plugging the Asus padphone into its dock (basicly just a bigger screen n battery) be teathering like on he atrix ?)
I even asked my friends mom who works in the corporate part she had almost no idea and said the obvious hotspot answer.
(Sorry for errors still getting used to the prime keybored)
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ianwardell said:
Ahaha oh I get it now. Yah i posted this when I got home from a physics midterm so that was most likely why. And I actually do have a question every rep i have spoken to Gave me a different answer to this: what does teathering actually cover. Is phone to car Bluetooth teathering? One rep said yes another said no. Would plugging the Asus padphone into its dock (basicly just a bigger screen n battery) be teathering like on he atrix ?)
I even asked my friends mom who works in the corporate part she had almost no idea and said the obvious hotspot answer.
(Sorry for errors still getting used to the prime keybored)
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I guess we will see. If AT&T sells the setup, then I would have a hard time imagining us calling that tethering.
But most likely in our system it would be detected as tethering.
We'll see!

How would that be detected? Wouldn't the data be ending at the device? ( I very much dislike what companys have done to data plans) it is still a confusing topic.
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ianwardell said:
How would that be detected? Wouldn't the data be ending at the device? ( I very much dislike what companys have done to data plans) it is still a confusing topic.
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one way it can be detected are through packet headers. when you're tethering, all your device is doing is acting as a router. it doesnt modify anything (although i'm sure there's an app for that).

Pdanet? Doesn't it have a hide function? I have heard of that. I do think that u.s carriers are going to start going overboard with this though.
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And I'm an AT&T employee if you have any questions about Tethering.
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So the other day I was told that ATT could see your tethering through the Wifi Tether app (one that isn't supposed to use standard tethering protocols) is this true?

You guys should shop around with T-Mobile if you are that concerned about tethering. I was offered a plan that was $5 cheaper than the one I'm on two days ago. The new plan would have been unlimited voice/text and 10GB/month data with unlimited tethering. It was offered by the phone CS rep. The price was $55/month. I didn't take it since I don't want to be on contract. He said the normal price of the plan was $65. All I was calling for was to ask when I originally signed up with T-Mobile, since it's been so long that I forgot.
Also, my current plan is 1000 minutes, unlimited text, and unlimited data with tethering for $60/month.
Just food for thought. T-Mobile reps, like any other carrier, could care less whether or not you tether.

Evo running on Verizon!!!!

Ok I'm about to have my HTC evo 4g flashed to run on Verizon the guy that does the job told me he'll flash a like stock custom Rom to the hand set and then change the meid from a crappie Verizon phone to the evo and it will be working on Verizon. Ok cool BUT... I'm a flash junkie I can't stop flashing roms on my incredible I wanna no if anyone can help after the evo is done can I still use custom roms on my evo. Please all help would be greatly appreciate sorry if this is the wrong spot to post this.
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Don't think its possible to run evo on verizon

As soon as Verizon finds out ur flashed to their network on a non vzw phone you will be booted and charged the price of the full 2 year contract, don't pay it and it goes to collections and on your credit, vzw doesn't like non carrier approved phones at all so good luck
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As soon as Verizon finds out ur flashed to their network on a non vzw phone you will be booted and charged the price of the full 2 year contract, don't pay it and it goes to collections and on your credit, vzw doesn't like non carrier approved phones at all so good luck
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Yep, exactly.
What are your reasons for running on verizon? You can always use the 00001 prl, which will let you talk/text/3g on verizon. As long as you dont use it a whole lot (about 50% per month) you shouldnt get caught from sprint.

It's going on prepaid $50 amonth unlimited so I'm not worried if they find out I already got my one incredible running on it for $50 so why not. Sprint blows were I live Verizon rules my area so its kinda worth it to me.
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666syco said:
It's going on prepaid $50 amonth unlimited so I'm not worried if they find out I already got my one incredible running on it for $50 so why not. Sprint blows were I live Verizon rules my area so its kinda worth it to me.
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But the prl runs off Verizon towers...
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666syco said:
It's going on prepaid $50 amonth unlimited so I'm not worried if they find out I already got my one incredible running on it for $50 so why not. Sprint blows were I live Verizon rules my area so its kinda worth it to me.
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Buy a Verizon phone get a GNex or a rezound verizon likes to bend ppl over and give it to em hard for using flashed phones I know 2 ppl who got hit with collections 2 months in and one person who actually tried to do it again after getting caught the first time and got taken to court and charged with fraud and big reds got big bucks to shove right up your a$$
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Ok I thought I was able to have my question answer but no I got a bunch momma boys screaming at me NO DON'T DO IT. LOOK I'M DOING LIKE IT OR NOT. CAN I FLASH ROMS OR WHAT.
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Prepare for a flame war for using cap lock. A simple search would of given ur answer... Yes and no. U can flash a rom but nothing will work except for calls i believe. Ur gonna have to edit the rom u want to flash to get data working.
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T.C.P said:
Prepare for a flame war for using cap lock. A simple search would of given ur answer... Yes and no. U can flash a rom but nothing will work except for calls i believe. Ur gonna have to edit the rom u want to flash to get data working.
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Nah, there ain't going to be any flame war...the dude is obviously an idiot!! Chances are that they're really not really putting him on Verizon but on Page Plus BUT he's too busy being a hot head about things! He thinks we're mommas boys or whatever, OK....don't come crying 2 months from now when they bust down your trailer and haul you and your meth making girlfriend to jail for fraud because you thought you were some sort of hardcore internet gangsta that couldn't listen to what people are trying to tell you...hahaha

Dude......evil offered you some sound advice. U don't have to take it......u also don't need to be a jerkoff. I don't believe he was telling you not to do it.....he was using real life examples of people who got caught and what happened to them. U should be pushing the thanks button on each of his posts as well as this one.

Ok my bad I'm fast to act like a ass. Im sorry I do understand that you guys are looking out and that is great sorry once again if I offended anyone and I take it in consideration on the info given
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It's really going to Verizon not page plus we have in my area Verizon, straight talk, net 10, and at&t. I only get services with Verizon that's why I asked. Sorry to of opened my mouth and disrespected you guys. Ya I'm a hot head but at that note my wife is not a meth head. Man look, pick on me not my family she was killed last year by a drunk driver that got away so the topic of my wife is very touchy. Sorry for being a noon and a asshole. Thank you guys for all your help in my problems.
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I don't get offended I'm just trying to warn u vzw likes to throw their weight around and hard and they have the money to do it they will show up to court with some lil dip**** Rep and then 3 attorneys a criminal, civil and idk what the other was probably a second civil cuz my boy got 2 yrs in jail for fraud and a 250,000$ fine for what vzw called wire fraud they basically conned a judge into buying that he was stealing service because he didn't buy a smartphone directly from them and was off contract even tho he was still paying them their rediculous rates, I can't stand vzw u pay through your nose, ass and eyes to be treated like a dog turd stuck on their shoe their customer service skills blow harder than a f5 tornado
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Thank you the more you tell me the more I'm ready to say never mind bad idea. I got 5 years in jail already couldn't see my kids going to the state cause Verizon is a pushy company.
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Ok thanks guys I agree I'm not doing it I gave the phone to my son to use as a tablet thanks for all the info and once again sorry for any disrespect you were more then helpful.
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I've done, bunch of people have done, and a bunch more will do it....
You actually bought a phone from verizon, you own both phones, chances of they getting you is 1 in one million.
People come out with the dogs not knowing exactly the rules of stealing/cloning/swapping.
If you swap esn/meid your phone become the donors phone bottom line that's what they will see.
if you wanna know how to do it, pm. I dont charge a penny, to whoever want to learn. this applys to
most phones.
If you search around you will see a tons of guides/how to on how to flash to cricket/metropcs/virgin and etc...
anyway people are using one's phone carrier on another.
Iphone or any gsm phone, they are exclusive for specific carriers. though people jailbreak or unlock to use
in another carrier.
they been doing this since mmmmm since mmmm?? well a very long time ...lol
I mean knowledge ahead, doing or not is totally up to you.
I can guarantee voice/text will work, now regarding data maybe, I've seem people with data and other not or struggling with 1x.
PS
everybody know that pulling the trigger can kill, however most people are not willing to do so. You decide your will.

Thanks for the helpful info, but i am going to flash my phone over to verizon anyway. I already bought the donor phone and paid for the month of service so there's no turning back now I'm having a few issues so so help would be excellent from the poster above. If you could shoot me a pm it would be much appreciated!

sweatmanpb said:
Thanks for the helpful info, but i am going to flash my phone over to verizon anyway. I already bought the donor phone and paid for the month of service so there's no turning back now I'm having a few issues so so help would be excellent from the poster above. If you could shoot me a pm it would be much appreciated!
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amlavor said:
I've done, bunch of people have done, and a bunch more will do it....
You actually bought a phone from verizon, you own both phones, chances of they getting you is 1 in one million.
People come out with the dogs not knowing exactly the rules of stealing/cloning/swapping.
If you swap esn/meid your phone become the donors phone bottom line that's what they will see.
if you wanna know how to do it, pm. I dont charge a penny, to whoever want to learn. this applys to
most phones.
If you search around you will see a tons of guides/how to on how to flash to cricket/metropcs/virgin and etc...
anyway people are using one's phone carrier on another.
Iphone or any gsm phone, they are exclusive for specific carriers. though people jailbreak or unlock to use
in another carrier.
they been doing this since mmmmm since mmmm?? well a very long time ...lol
I mean knowledge ahead, doing or not is totally up to you.
I can guarantee voice/text will work, now regarding data maybe, I've seem people with data and other not or struggling with 1x.
PS
everybody know that pulling the trigger can kill, however most people are not willing to do so. You decide your will.
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Exactly, this is great support right here at its best not a put down as others.:thumbup:
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I Beat AT&T today!!

AT&T started throttling my data this afternoon. I kindy went up to my local AT&T store and asked to be put on the phone with customer service. Their phone was tied up so I just ended up using my cellphone and leaving it on speaker phone to amuse the customers and make the staff look ****ty. The employees thought i had no chance but little did they know I remember my contracts and agreements class from college. I never signed a contract with AT&T since i bought my own phone in and I never upgraded or even bought a phone through them. I explained to the customer rep that I am following the terms of the original plan that was provided to me. I explained to them that as long as I have not put a signature on any sort of agreement altering my account then you guys can't legally alter it without consent from me. They tried to say they could and I told think twice before you make your company look really uneducated. Then I told the lady I would like to speak to your supervisor. Oh i got transferred 12 times until this cocky idiot came on the phone. This guy tried to be a smart one when i was explaining the law to him. He said, "The company doesn't give a damn about a law." Then i said sir your conversation is being recorded on my phone as well as your company phone." He said "excuse me?" I said "you heard me fool. You are being recorded and i got you on speaker phone with about 35 people listening and taking notes." He thought i was lying so me being in the bad mood i was in i gathered 10 people around my phone and let them say something to him. The little girl sad "bad man!" She was so adorable. This elderly lady cancelled her service and told the man to go burn in hell. The rest just laughed. After I the elderly lady left went to the counter the guy was kissing butt for real. He said he will see what he can do for me. I told him I can just send Jim a text. He said Jim who. I said Jim Hood our state attorney general. He put me on hold and 5 minutes later he came back saying that i was correct and your data will be fully restored in 10 minutes. I told him we can wait together then. 5 minutes later i did a speed test and I got 6.8 mbs down and 1.58 mbs up. After that i told him i am glad that this was resolved but I will save the conversation for just encase this happens again. He said have a nice day and thanks for being an at&t customer. I said whatever and hung up. The customers actually clapped and the staff looked like someone died. I'm on cloud 9 at the moment. I think I should have went to law school instead getting into Networking and Computers.

Niceeeee
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I just print screened this original post because I am dying of laughter.
Without going too far in-depth, you were wrong. According to you, you were under no contractual agreements with AT&T, therefore, neither were they. Ergo they can change the terms of service at any point and you can decide to cease payment at any point. Both parties can do these actions sans penalty because, according to you, there are no contracts in effect.
You did not beat AT&T. They just got tired of you, which is okay.
To all others: Do not do this. AT&T will put you on hold and laugh at you. Chances of this working for anyone else are slim.

albo23 said:
I just print screened this original post because I am dying of laughter.
Without going too far in-depth, you were wrong. According to you, you were under no contractual agreements with AT&T, therefore, neither were they. Ergo they can change the terms of service at any point and you can decide to cease payment at any point. Both parties can do these actions sans penalty because, according to you, there are no contracts in effect.
You did not beat AT&T. They just got tired of you, which is okay.
To all others: Do not do this. AT&T will put you on hold and laugh at you. Chances of this working for anyone else are slim.
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Technically I was. They was not providing the service that I was supposed to get according to their terms. It was funny though. Most people who renew their contract actually agree to the shady terms. I was really mad because I didn't get a warning before I got throttled. And I got throttled at 3.022 gb according to the idiot on the phone. I think the rep using profanity in front of a bunch of customers got my data back on track to be honest. I am glad I used my cellphone to be honest. I was sure going to give CNN my conversation for real. I have to thanks the HTC developers for including the call recorder app in their sense roms. I think it is the RCMix rom.
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gasolara2002 said:
Technically I was. They was not providing the service that I was supposed to get according to their terms. It was funny though. Most people who renew their contract actually agree to the shady terms. I was really mad because I didn't get a warning before I got throttled. And I got throttled at 3.022 gb according to the idiot on the phone. I think the rep using profanity in front of a bunch of customers got my data back on track to be honest. I am glad I used my cellphone to be honest. I was sure going to give CNN my conversation for real. I have to thanks the HTC developers for including the call recorder app in their sense roms. I think it is the RCMix rom.
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You obviously did not read a line of those terms so, technically, you were not. I am not certain what obligations you think AT&T holds if you did not sign a contract but from my observations, it is much smaller than what you think it really is.

albo23 said:
You obviously did not read a line of those terms so, technically, you were not. I am not certain what obligations you think AT&T holds if you did not sign a contract but from my observations, it is much smaller than what you think it really is.
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Yes I did. I still have the original brochure from 2006. Those are the terms that are agreed upon. I'm sure it can be googled. The terms of the data back then basically said they can cut you off because overwhelming activity. If I was crazy and used 30gb like some customers then I wouldn't even worry about them cutting me off. They didn't follow their terms and the rep cursed during a service call. What more defense could you provide for AT&T? If you want to get down to the core of throttling it is illegal to throttle unless the service is selected for certain speeds such as what the home internet providers do. I think when some attorney general gets free time on their hands they will go after all of these mobile phone providers and penalize them heavily. Sprint, and T-Mobile are the only smart major national providers so far that are making sure that they avoid trouble in the future by being upfront about their data.
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albo23 said:
You obviously did not read a line of those terms so, technically, you were not. I am not certain what obligations you think AT&T holds if you did not sign a contract but from my observations, it is much smaller than what you think it really is.
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The thing you don't understand is that it is classified as a product when their is no contract. The terms is what was written in 2006. A product and a service are 2 different things. That's why you see the terms prepaid service and postpaid service. They don't use product a often any more.
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OH MAN, YES! Dude you Rock! I would have loved to see this.
I love seeing AT&T get kicked in the nuts.
This throttle sh!t p!sses me off. I had a very nice rep use a dead IMEI so he could switch my grandfathered unlimited plan, which now gets throttled at 3GB's, becasue ATT refarmed the extra 2Gigs to Simple Mobile,etc.; put me on the LTE plan so I can get 5GBs which is about what I use. I would have bought an LTE device except we probably wont have LTE for another few years! Not to mention the fact Im using a malyasian Galaxy tab plus 7.0 for voice calls and data, because I dont like being force fed the bloated recycled crap options in their stores.
This is so EPIC WIN. I understand networks are changing and much more data is being used these days, but at least let us original unlmited people use a fair amount..
best read all day!
I would happily settle for a sneaky way to unthrottle oursleves, but they are doing it server side, so I dont think we will have much luck.

I will check with my ex but I'm sure that is the reason why. She is an attorney and she normally helps draw up contracts for local entertainers.
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Check out my thread. I love messing with AT&T!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25834280#post25834280

gasolara2002 said:
Yes I did. I still have the original brochure from 2006. Those are the terms that are agreed upon. I'm sure it can be googled. The terms of the data back then basically said they can cut you off because overwhelming activity. If I was crazy and used 30gb like some customers then I wouldn't even worry about them cutting me off. They didn't follow their terms and the rep cursed during a service call. What more defense could you provide for AT&T? If you want to get down to the core of throttling it is illegal to throttle unless the service is selected for certain speeds such as what the home internet providers do. I think when some attorney general gets free time on their hands they will go after all of these mobile phone providers and penalize them heavily. Sprint, and T-Mobile are the only smart major national providers so far that are making sure that they avoid trouble in the future by being upfront about their data.
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gasolara2002 said:
The thing you don't understand is that it is classified as a product when their is no contract. The terms is what was written in 2006. A product and a service are 2 different things. That's why you see the terms prepaid service and postpaid service. They don't use product a often any more.
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Send me the contract when you have an opportunity. I am NOT distributing legal advice, however, I am speaking from the perspective of an individual who is one term from graduating from a T14 Law School. I am suggesting so as you are misleading individuals.
A SERVICE cannot be classified as a PRODUCT in any legally binding terms or agreements (it can, but is unenforceable). Regardless, that is moot as you hold no legally binding terms nor agreements with AT&T. You are still ignoring my previous comment that AT&T can shut off your service tomorrow because there are no legally binding agreements between the two parties. AT&T can throttle you anytime they would like and you can stop paying them anytime you would like as neither of you are constrained contractually.

Very nice. My mom has them for DSL and now she got a cell phone through them. I don't understand it but they suck. Good work man.
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gasolara2002 said:
AT&T started throttling my data this afternoon. I kindy went up to my local AT&T store and asked to be put on the phone with customer service. Their phone was tied up so I just ended up using my cellphone and leaving it on speaker phone to amuse the customers and make the staff look ****ty. The employees thought i had no chance but little did they know I remember my contracts and agreements class from college. I never signed a contract with AT&T since i bought my own phone in and I never upgraded or even bought a phone through them. I explained to the customer rep that I am following the terms of the original plan that was provided to me. I explained to them that as long as I have not put a signature on any sort of agreement altering my account then you guys can't legally alter it without consent from me. They tried to say they could and I told think twice before you make your company look really uneducated. Then I told the lady I would like to speak to your supervisor. Oh i got transferred 12 times until this cocky idiot came on the phone. This guy tried to be a smart one when i was explaining the law to him. He said, "The company doesn't give a damn about a law." Then i said sir your conversation is being recorded on my phone as well as your company phone." He said "excuse me?" I said "you heard me fool. You are being recorded and i got you on speaker phone with about 35 people listening and taking notes." He thought i was lying so me being in the bad mood i was in i gathered 10 people around my phone and let them say something to him. The little girl sad "bad man!" She was so adorable. This elderly lady cancelled her service and told the man to go burn in hell. The rest just laughed. After I the elderly lady left went to the counter the guy was kissing butt for real. He said he will see what he can do for me. I told him I can just send Jim a text. He said Jim who. I said Jim Hood our state attorney general. He put me on hold and 5 minutes later he came back saying that i was correct and your data will be fully restored in 10 minutes. I told him we can wait together then. 5 minutes later i did a speed test and I got 6.8 mbs down and 1.58 mbs up. After that i told him i am glad that this was resolved but I will save the conversation for just encase this happens again. He said have a nice day and thanks for being an at&t customer. I said whatever and hung up. The customers actually clapped and the staff looked like someone died. I'm on cloud 9 at the moment. I think I should have went to law school instead getting into Networking and Computers.
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It's been widely reported that AT&T has a habit of throttling their so-called "unlimited" plans. You waited until it happened to you to go make a scene in an AT&T retail store?

luftrofl said:
It's been widely reported that AT&T has a habit of throttling their so-called "unlimited" plans. You waited until it happened to you to go make a scene in an AT&T retail store?
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Brilliant.
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albo23 said:
Send me the contract when you have an opportunity. I am NOT distributing legal advice, however, I am speaking from the perspective of an individual who is one term from graduating from a T14 Law School. I am suggesting so as you are misleading individuals.
A SERVICE cannot be classified as a PRODUCT in any legally binding terms or agreements (it can, but is unenforceable). Regardless, that is moot as you hold no legally binding terms nor agreements with AT&T. You are still ignoring my previous comment that AT&T can shut off your service tomorrow because there are no legally binding agreements between the two parties. AT&T can throttle you anytime they would like and you can stop paying them anytime you would like as neither of you are constrained contractually.
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I got it. My ex has been an attorney for 4 years so I take what you say with good vision but experience is supreme. I was partially wrong in my argument. According to her the basis of it is consumer protection laws and AT&T's own terms. My plan which is not a contract but it is a post paid plan. Since I have never put a signature to give consent to any changes I am only held accountable for what is on the brochure for 2006. The brochure which you can find online clearly states that the provider can cut my phone off if I abuse the network in anyway. Throttling is not introduced in 2006 buddy. No one can be held accountable for a contract they never seen let alone never signed. AT&T would have to completely shutdown my phone and release me from the usage of their network according to the brochure. It can be found on google if you are looking for it. As far as misleading the community I did explain but I think most of them might understand it now. So I apologize for not clearly explaining why I can't get throttled. If you are upset because you may have gotten messed over by AT&T or you may have a part time job with them then all I can say is get over it. You are the only sore one out of the bunch.
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luftrofl said:
It's been widely reported that AT&T has a habit of throttling their so-called "unlimited" plans. You waited until it happened to you to go make a scene in an AT&T retail store?
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Yup because I thought something was wrong until I switched to my inspire then I knew I was throttled. Yes I did go to the retail store because there is an order to do things and I have learned that in order to get your voice heard you have to make them hear you. Call me crazy but I have no time to play phone tag with anyone. You can sit back if you want to and let them control you at will but with me they are going to have to stick with what was on the brochure of plans they printed for customers to stare at.
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9h0s7 said:
Brilliant.
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Thank You buddy
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Verizon I love u so much please just buy out at&t for us. And cool story
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ATHORNFAM2 said:
Verizon I love u so much please just buy out at&t for us. And cool story
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I actually wish that could happen. I honestly would be with big red if their network wasn't mainly cdma. The voice coverage is the best in the business.
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gasolara2002 said:
Yup because I thought something was wrong until I switched to my inspire then I knew I was throttled. Yes I did go to the retail store because there is an order to do things and I have learned that in order to get your voice heard you have to make them hear you. Call me crazy but I have no time to play phone tag with anyone. You can sit back if you want to and let them control you at will but with me they are going to have to stick with what was on the brochure of plans they printed for customers to stare at.
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Haha, I don't have AT&T so I wouldn't really know about "letting them control you"